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Topic:The Asian Championships/2nd Asian Indoor Games
pioneer
Posted: 2007-06-26 03:09:11
The World Muay Thai Federation (WMF) and Federation Amateur Muay Thai of Asia (FAMA) under the guidelines of the Olymic Council of Asia and The National Olympic committee presents

The Asian Muay Thai Championships and Pre-Indoor Games
from August 19th-21st, 2007
At Sree Kanteerava Indoor Stadium, Bangalore, India.

&

The 2nd Asian Indoor Games in Macau, China,
from October 26, 2007 to November 3, 2007


For more details coming soon check:
www.muaythaipromotions.com
www.worldmuaythai.org






pioneer
Posted: 2007-06-26 03:11:50

This tournament has been approved by The National Olympic Committee/The Olympic Council of Asia and the IOC (international Olympic Committee) also; the European Championship in October is to be held in Portugal. Also the World Championships being held the first time outside of Bangkok March 2008 and World Martial Arts Games in Bangkok in April 2008.

www.maigoc2007.com/05.php.htm
www.worldmuaythai.org
www.muaythaipromotions.com

more documents coming soon...






pioneer
Posted: 2007-06-27 02:10:46
Visit www.martialartsgames.org for the world martial arts games organised by IOC.(International olympic commitee)
pioneer
Posted: 2007-06-27 22:00:03
ttt.... (take to the top)
sao
Posted: 2007-06-30 07:31:35
June 30th 2007

Dear Readers,

The released statement regarding the WMF Championships conveys deceptive information and is not acceptable to the wider MuayThai community.

I would like to take this opportunity to clarify several details:

1) The WMF Championships is not and will not be recognized by the IOC nor has an affiliation with the IOC or any organization recognized by the IOC. One should not make public statements with misleading information.

2) In actuality, IFMA is a full member of GAISF, an association recognized by the IOC. This is factual information:
 Go to the IOC homepage, www.olympic.org
 Search, International Sports Federations
 Go to, Contact the GAISF
 Click GAISF homepage, www.agfisonline.com
 Click, Members
 Click, Muaythai – details of IFMA as the MuayThai member will be displayed

With regards to the claim that the Asian Championships in India is recognized by the IOC and OCA, and apparently sanctioned by the Olympic Committee of Thailand: this is misinformation (especially as the Olympic Committee of Thailand has no right to sanction an event in India).

FAMA

Furthermore, the organizers of this event have been using the name and logo of the pre-existing Federation of Amateur Muaythai of Asia (FAMA), a member of IFMA, under the presidency of Mr. Karim Massimov who is the current Prime Minister of the Republic of Kazakhstan and the Vice President of the Olympic Committee of Kazakhstan. This action is problematic for Asian IFMA member countries and therefore will be presented to the Court of Arbitration of Sport by representatives from these member countries.

World Martial Art Games

This is an event being organized by a group of martial arts organisations who do not have recognition from the IOC or GAISF, which a quick internet search will confirm.
Whereas, the next meeting of the Martial Arts Commission Working Group of GAISF will be held in Thailand on December 5, 2007. Presidents of all 13 Martial Arts recognized by IOC and GAISF will attend and discuss the organization of the GAISF World Martial Art Games 2010, for which MuayThai, under IFMA, will be one of the 13 martial arts.
This meeting will be hosted by IFMA, with support from the Ministry of Tourism and Sports and the Sports Authority of Thailand, and co-chaired by the President of GAISF and the Chairman of the IOC Coordination Committee for the Beijing 2008 Olympic Games.

Already 3 meetings have been held – in Seoul, at the NOC Headquarter in Brussels and at the IOC Summer & Winter Olympic/GAISF meeting in Beijing.
As IFMA General Secretary, I was present at all meetings and I was personally part of a coordination meeting at the IOC Headquarters in Lausanne, at which the criteria for the Games was discussed.
This information is available for public viewing through the IFMA, IOC and GAISF web-pages.

Indoor Asian Games and SEA Games
The 2nd Asian Indoor Games will be held in Macau, October 26 – November 3, 2007.
At the 2nd Asian Indoor Games website you will see the IF is the Macau Muaythai Association, which is a member of IFMA.
IFMA is also the controlling body for the 24th SEA Games which will be held in Thailand, December 6 – 15, 2007.
The sport in these games is officially referred to as “Muay”, which we are not in agreement with, as the official sport is “MuayThai” under GAISF, and with which we are proud to be affiliated. On that note, Pioneer’s statement that the Asian Championships in India are apparently recognised by the OCA is questionable, as the OCA does not recognise the sport of Muaythai, but rather the sport of Muay.

Instead of posting misinformation on the net, I ask all our friends in Australia to be more open-minded. Comparing the frequency of events will show one or two WMF events as against 50 IFMA /WMC events in Australia last year. Needless to say, these facts reflect the situation in the world. These people should join us so that Muaythai in Australia can grow stronger and everybody can work under the umbrella of one recognized federation for the benefit of athletes and Australia.

The 2008 IFMA World Championships will host 100 member countries. Presidents of all Martial Arts recognized by the IOC and GAISF will be present. This indeed demonstrates that IFMA has been given full support from all other members of the world sporting community.

We look forward to welcoming everyone to Bangkok in November.

Stephan Fox
General Secretary IFMA



www.ifmamuaythai.org
www.agfisonline.com
www.olympic.org
www.maigoc2007.com
www.seagameskorat2007.com
pioneer
Posted: 2007-06-30 09:57:48

sao
quotes:
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The 2nd Asian Indoor Games in Macau during October 26 – November 3, 2007. Please feel free to visit the 2nd Asian Indoor Games website, and you will see the IF is the Macau Muaythai Association, which by the way is a member of IFMA. As for the 24th Sea Games which will be held in Thailand during December 6 – 15, 2007, IFMA has been appointed the controlling body. The sport in these games is called Muay, which we are not in agreement with, as the official sport is Muaythai under GAISF, and we are proud to be affiliated with it. On that note, Pioneer’s statement that the “Asian Championship” in India is apparently recognised by the OCA is a little funny, as the OCA does not recognise the sport of Muaythai, but the sport of Muay.
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Dear Readers,

My aim in informing you is not to cause a stir or rather a 'ping pong' effect that will soon become very exhausting for all you readers. Instead I aim at informing you of happenings with our sport of Muay Thai or 'Muay' as known in particular international tournaments from credible sources.
In achieving what I have set out to do I will submit various valid documentation for you to read and evaulate for yourselves.

#1 Below are letters from the MAIGOC inviting Mr. Santiparph Intaraphartn (president of FAMA) (Federation of Amateur Muay Thai of Asia) to attend the 3rd OCA (Olympic Council of Asia) Coordination Commitee in Macau; it also states the necessary information.


#2 sao
quotes:
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FAMA

Furthermore, the organizers of this event have been using the name and logo of the pre-existing Federation of Amateur Muaythai of Asia (FAMA), a member of IFMA, under the presidency of Mr. Karim Massimov who is the current Prime Minister of the Republic of Kazakhstan and the Vice President of the Olympic Committee of Kazakhstan. This action is problematic for Asian IFMA member countries and therefore will be presented to the Court of Arbitration of Sport by representatives from these member countries.

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*the president of FAMA (Federation of Amateur Muay Thai of Asia) is Mr. Santiparph Intaraphatn;(a member of the World Muay Federation (WMF)) which is the so called 'used name and logo' of FAMA that has been accepted for the Asian Indoor Games & also the Pre Indoor Asian Games in India. with evidence seen in the letter posted below
pioneer
Posted: 2007-06-30 10:00:02

#2

quote:
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With regards to the statement on the Asian Championships in India being recognized by the IOC and OCA, and apparently sanctioned by the Olympic Committee of Thailand. This is a complete misinformation, especially as the Olympic Committee of Thailand has no right to sanction an event in India. I suggest the person who posted this information should do some research on the Olympic movement.
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-There is nothing in this thread that mentions that the Olympic Committee of Thailand is sanctioning the event in India. We are speaking of every NOC National Olympic Committee in Asia bodies.

Please check back from time to time and keep up to date with news. In the end all I wish is for Muay Thai fighters Australia-wide to have the opportunity to build experience from eventually competing in one of these prestigious events as we are apart of the Asia Pacific Region.

Muaynewsthailand
Posted: 2007-07-03 04:45:41
First of all, it is very important for all Muaythai enthusiasts to understand that our sport is called “Muaythai”, not Muay or any other names. The Asian Indoor Games is not so much of our concern as the sport is called Muay. The only sport we know is Muaythai and we are proud to be a part of it. We all, as foreigners, have fought very hard to get the name and the sport accepted and recognized in the world sporting community (see details in GAISF website). It is an achievement in which you could not even comprehend to conquer.

Your message posted 25 June 2007 quoted, “The World Martial Arts Games (including Muay Thai) April 2008 in Bangkok- A huge event with martial artists coming from around the world to participate. Organised by the IOC (The International Olympic Committee)
Confirmation is to come...”

I must say that it is a misleading statement and you should be careful of the messages you posted. The fact is the IOC would never organize martial art games for unrecognized martial art federations, of which you are a member. The IOC will not recognize your federation. GAISF, the association recognized by the IOC, in contraire will organize the World Martial Art Games in 2010 which every Australian Muaythai enthusiast has a chance to qualify to participate.

The documents you posted do no justice to the matters being discussed here and they do not mention anything about the WMF. The letter you posted was an invitation to the President of the Thai Federation to attend the Coordination Committee Meeting for the 2nd Asian Indoor Games in Macau. The list of technical delegates was created on a blank sheet of paper with no letterhead, the representatives from Macau do not have names, and there is no prior approval from organizing committee.

At the end of the day, I am mainly concerned by the misinformation about IOC involvement in your post, and I must state one more time that IFMA is the only recognized World Federation under GAISF, who are a partner of the IOC.
Brian Ritchie
Posted: 2007-07-04 11:05:25
Wow, this is still a controversy, eh?

I remember this. Something like... they wanted this asian games to be similar to the Olympics. So they took on similar rules to the Olympics, such as...there are no sports included that are to be named after one country. Thus, they changed Muaythai to simply "Muay".

The funny thing about calling it just "Muay" is that it is still a Thai word. I mean, I don't think it's fooling anyone. I know they want to emulate the Olympics, but that's just a strange ruling.

pioneer
Posted: 2007-07-06 07:36:15
Hi All, please see below an official WMF letter regarding The National Olympic Committee of Thailand's recognition of the World Muay Thai Federation (WMF)...
pioneer
Posted: 2007-07-06 07:38:09
pioneer
Posted: 2007-07-06 07:46:12

pioneer
Posted: 2007-07-06 07:48:02

Also; the World Martial Arts Games (letter below) accepted the World Muay Thai Federation (WMF) in 2006. The World Martial Arts Games are held every 2 years with the next in 2008 in April, Bangkok, Thailand.

abovethewaist
Posted: 2007-07-07 01:27:36
WFK World Federation Of Kickboxing UK.
WFK President United Kingdom. Dell Mann.
WFK Executive Board Member.
WFK Pro Comission Member
Vice President EFK Europe

We WFK are also members of the IMGC and will be takeing a large team to compete in these games, April 8th 2008 In Bangkok Thailand.
WMF is also Members of the IMGC and will be there also as will be at least 62 other countries at the moment and this is growing day by day.

If you are not a member of the IMGC you cannot take part in these games.

The President of the IOC has opened these games in the past.
Pioneer i sugest you drop me an email from my profile
Thankyou Respect to all.

Dell Mann


abovethewaist
Posted: 2007-07-07 01:29:57

WFK World Federation Of Kickboxing UK.
WFK President United Kingdom. Dell Mann.
WFK Executive Board Member.
WFK Pro Comission Member
Vice President EFK Europe

abovethewaist
Posted: 2007-07-07 01:59:17
Pioneer
dellmanndell@aol.com
Neil Holden
Posted: 2007-07-07 04:24:42
Brian Ritchie writes:

"Wow, this is still a controversy, eh?".

------

Apparently so, real shame too!

Maybe one format will eventually get through. WTF did, although there are still ITF Taekwondo championships.
pioneer
Posted: 2007-07-09 08:24:01
Thank you Mr. Dale, i will drop you an email soon.
pioneer
Posted: 2007-07-10 09:29:10
ttt..(take to the top)
pioneer
Posted: 2007-07-17 22:03:51

Please find invitation with competition information of European Championship 2007 all of these competitions will be held in Pavillion das Travessas,VIGO city, Galicia – Spain The AEMT (Spanish Association of Muay-thai) & thePortuguese Federation is inviting you and your team for participation. The above federations are now proud to be apart of the WMF.
pioneer
Posted: 2007-07-19 01:46:59
ttt..
pioneer
Posted: 2007-07-24 01:53:32
*****.... :)
pioneer
Posted: 2007-11-07 05:50:08

http://www.maigoc2007.com/Eng/picsub/53.shtml

Results from 2nd Asian Indoor Games organised by our Federation of Amateur Muaythai of Asia (FAMA)

Flyweight 48kg - 51kg
G:CHAN KAI TIK, Hong Kong
S:CLARO ROLAND, Philippines
B:KUJUR ALBERT, India & MENNOI ARTIT, Thailand


Bantamweight 51kg - 54kg
G:PAYUNHAN SUPACHAI, Thailand
S:VELASCO BRENT, Philippines
B:CHAN KAI CHUNG, Hong Kong & VONGCHAMPA BOUNMA, Lao

Featherweight 54kg - 57kg
G:KWANGKHWANG WEERAPON, Thailand
S:HUDOYBERDIEV ABDULLO, Uzbekistan
B:LARUAN ZAIDI, Philippines & PHAVANHDY LAMTAKHONG, Lao


Lightweight 57kg - 60kg
G:PUNTUMA SANGUAN, Thailand
S:ZHANG BO, China
B:MOHAMMED IMAUDDIN NA, India & ULZIIBAT ENKHBAYAR, Mongolia

Light Welterweight 60kg - 63.5kg
G:SUMIDO RUBEN, Philippines
S:KHETNOK METTA, Thailand
B:SIVONGSA SENGCHANH, Lao & YAGHMOUR MUSTAPHA, Lebanon

Welterweight 63.5kg - 67kg
G:KAHHOROV MAVLONBEK, Uzbekistan
S:ISHII HIROKI, Japan
B:ABUSAFIYAH YASER, Jordan & MOTAMEDI CHALESHMI J, I.R. of Iran

Light Middleweight 67kg - 71kg
G:KADIRKULOV ARTUR, Uzbekistan
S:ROSHANI NASAZ VAHID, I.R. of Iran
B:MAGSARJAV BATJARGAL, Mongolia & SHETTY BALKRISHNA SH, India

Middleweight 71kg - 75kg
G: ABDOLLAHI MOSTAFA, I.R. of Iran
S: SHUKLA SANDEEP, India
B: AL RAFAI SAYYAD, Kuwait & EL KAISSI WAEL, Lebanon

Light Heavyweight 75kg - 81kg
G:MATSUMOTO TOSHIO, Japan
S:LI BAOMING, China
B:ALI ALI, Jordan & MUHAMMED MUHAMMED, Iraq

pioneer
Posted: 2007-11-08 05:22:22
WMF (World MuayThai Federation) committee responsible for organising the Muay at highly successful 2nd Indoor Asian Games in Macau

pioneer
Posted: 2007-11-21 06:33:44
The following is what "muaynewsthailand" said on behalf of IFMA, however, these are actually fictions which are intended to mislead. Please read the fiction and the evidence refuting the claims and presenting the truth, that the WMF (World Muaythai Federation) is the only official member of IMGC (International Martial Art Games Committee) and the one and only Federation representing Muaythai at the IMGC Championship starting on April 12, 2008 with the IOC and GASIF Presidents in attendance for the grand opening ceremony.

FICTION – There is no International Federation (IF) appointed as controlling body for the sport of Muay for the Asian Indoor Games. Read Short List of Designated Sport, Muay, Technical Handbook, at www.maigoc2007.com
FICTION – The IOC does not recognize the WMF; and the World Martial Arts Games in 2008 is not listed in the International Sports Calendar, at www.olympic.org
FICTION – The IFMA is the only recognized International Federation for Amateur Muaythai by GAISF. Details in Member, Muaythai, at www.agfisonline.com

REALITY

Dear Mario

IMGC (International Martial Art Games Committee) is multi sport event not our WMF Champiomship ; Only WMF people work for IMGC organizing commitee

We decided to host IMCC around September next years but request by IMGC President

Mr.President of GAISF and IOC can come for opening ceremony on 12 Apl 2008

My advise due to WMF have many group of Muaythai in one country want to join WMF

WMF can accept only one Federation as FULL MEMBER ( Member of your NOC) have
a right to join World championship

for this reason the other group ( Gym or Non Gov or Non NOC ) become
Asociate member of WMF can go to IMGC Championship

The principle of IMGC founder ( Prof'.Chang Ung) to welcome every body in
Martial Art no NOC no Gov

For your question I'm recommend go to WMF in Bulgaria !

If some body want to come to BKK just making small team ( 2-3 Fighter) come
to BKK

Sincerely

Nopporn

BIMAG


----- Original Message -----
From: "Mario Da Silva"
To: "Nopporn"
Sent: Tuesday, November 20, 2007 1:01 PM
Subject: Question regarding IMGC


> To Colonel Nopporn Sutthent,
> Secretary General World Muay Thai Federation.
>
> Dear Sir,
>
> Please advise in regard to participation in the International Martial
> Arts Games to be held next year. My preference, as your legitimate
> representative in my country, is to participate in the WMF World
> Championships in March 2008. Will the IMGC Games tournament dates
> conflict with our World Championships and, if so, can you advise as to
> the importance of relevant participation on behalf of WMF at this
> event?
>
> Always wishing you well,
>
> Mario Da Silva,
> President Muay Thai South Africa.
>



pioneer
Posted: 2007-11-22 05:42:17
We are very excited that the President of the IOC and the President of GASIF has taken an interest in Martial Arts and we hope this is the next step to more recognition of Martial Arts in the mainstream sporting arena world wide.
pioneer
Posted: 2007-11-29 05:45:31
Col.Nopporn Sutthent the General Seceretary of WMF (World Muaythai Federation) has recieved a final confirmation letter from Dr. Suwit Yodmanee (Minister of Tourism and Sports) regarding WMF organising Muaythai for the 24th SEA Games.

The Minister appointed (1) Mr Thinakorn Numboonjit (SEA Games Chairman Muaythai Chief Organiser) and (2) Mr Sombat Khurbahn (Thailand Muaythai Team Manager compete for 24th SEA Games)

Request your Thai friend help to translate.





(right) Col. Nopporn Sutthent (WMF General Seceretary)



(top left) Col. Nopporn Sutthent (WMF General Seceretary)


pioneer
Posted: 2007-11-29 21:00:13
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pioneer
Posted: 2007-11-30 19:22:30
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pioneer
Posted: 2007-12-01 22:11:05
Please read from the top till the end.
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pioneer
Posted: 2007-12-05 19:03:08
The 24th Sea Games is kick off in Nakorn Rachasrima ( Korat) tomorrow.

If you are all still in Thailand, come down to support Muaythai is become medals sport!.
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