What do you guys reckon to this? I reckon Khan would get smashed all over the place against someone with the explosive power of Hatton, especially with Khans granite jaw ;) lol

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i'd rather see hatton fight bradley (or even witter) than kahn. no way this would happen in the next 18 months IMO. hatton's due to fight a big name next year after he destroys mallinaggi, possibly Pacquiao.

Thats ridiculous.
Khan would get smashed.
Hatton would take that fight at the drop of a hat as it would be an easy fight for a massive payday in the uk.
He wouldnt have to get out of 1st gear.

let this woggling occour

i wouldnt mind seeing Kelly Pavlik Vs Amir Khan ROFL

LOL....Thats just mean! :)

mean is continually putting people with weight advantages and glass jaws infront of someone then billing him to be amazing...i heard khans trainer rocked him the other morning when he splashed water on his face inbetween rounds

Sounds like another prince naz vs barrrrera. amir never 2 be seen again.

what weight is Matthew Hatton, talking to him at an unlicensed show and he looks quite big, that would be a reasonable fight for kahn

matthew is super welter or welter not sure

might even be middle weight

Welter he is...Khans pissin me off now..x

Why do people refer to Naz when talking about Khan? They have totally 2 diffrent style and charectors...

I can't understand!

Because they are both Asian, hyped up and can't box. Well Hamid could but bottled it, Khan possibly could but doesn't like being told.

Like it or not, there are not that many successful Asians in boxing. that's not Raciest, just the truth.

Mat hatton is Welterweight, although he probably walks round lighter than Ricky

Good point Mo, unfair comparison I reckon, and for a daft reason. Never really thought about it until your post.

Surely the biggest comparison should be Audley Harrison, amateur big hope, didn`t make the grade, fought nobodies.

At least Naz was a genuine world champ, a level well above Khan right now.

Daz you are wrong there!

Naz is NOT an asain he is an arab..

Naz was a world champ! Just very arogant!

and as too not many asain boxers thats very true and no where near a racist comment! But what has that go to do with this?

Ok, now I know why the thread was removed before. Let's keep the discussion clean and keep away from the racial/religious commentary.

Brian, some post have been taken out?

Can't see this fighting taking place at all!

Naz and PBF can relate!

Amir won the silver in the Olmpics at 17 in Boxing now thats an achievement.

Fair enough.
I dont ever think anyone was saying he was a bad "amateur" boxer.

But the amateur game is so far detatched from the professional game now that its like saying cos someone is good at rugby they will make a good football player, cos they both play on a pitch.

This can be seen by the fast style of amir rather than the power style of hatton.
Speed bodes well in am-boxing....but not committing to punches in the professional game makes him look gun shy. When amir boxes pro he still tries to be as fast as he was in the am's. Pretty much all pro boxers can bang and this is why amir is being "found wanting".

Just look at the success of young Scott Quigg. He has come from a thaiboxing background. He can bang, and he is having great success on the pro circuit against credible opponents, rather than being protected as amir is.

JHMO

wow, why has my messages been removed!! i dont think i mentioned anything about religion except a certain person ramming it down peoples throats, if i have offended anyone i appoligise i get over excited with that freedom of speech thingy

We can only wait and see! How ever Khan is improving BIG TIME with his new trainer.

Hatton was also protected for a long time dont forget!!!

I think the comparisons with Naz and Khan are unfair too and to say Naz bottled it is nonsense. He didnt want it anymore thats all. He was content and had achieved a lot and lost is edge and theres nothing you can do about that. When the love for the game is not there its just not there, it comes to some earlier than others. Thats what i believe happened with Naz. His appetite for training went after the Steve Robinson fight....

Naz lost because he wanted to...sayin that i mean he never trained he was an awesome puncher and was entertaining,he will be a hall of famer x

Got to admit, if I made a few million I wouldn`t be arsed about getting hit by some madass Mexican for the sake of it either, my gloves would be hung on the first hook that came along.

Brought far more to British boxing than Amir Khan!

Naz bottled it. Before the the fight with Barrera he was talking about being a legend after the fight he was just a leg end. He was a fake and just looked good on the way up until he met someone real world class.

All the messing about before that fight with the gloves was all signs of his bottle going. he gets slated Naz because he claimed he was the real deal but when it came to proving it he wasn't. One beating. That's all it took for him not to carry on. That is not the sign of a true champion no matter how much money he made coming up to that fight.

I've had many entertaining nights watching Naz but all my respect went after he lost. Not because he lost but because this guy who I had watched for a good few years turned out to be a fake who couldn't back up what made him the millions in the first place (His mouth)

Amir whilst a nice guy will take a simliar route. Beat everyone who's put at the front of him until the guy in the other corner is not hand picked, or lighter or washed up. When they both want it and can both give it that's when you will see how good Khan is and not a day before! Instead of using water and vaseline before he fights they should start putting windowlene on his face to see if they can polish his jaw up a bit haha

drum roll and "BANG!" Our overseas boxing correspondant awakes from his slumbers.

On a realistic note. The similarities drawn between two fighters are generally because of very childish things. both southpaw, both black, both welsh rarely because of any actual similarity. However; the lack of succesful Asian (a generalisation to include those with distinct generic appearance) and the wealth of untapped sponsorship and Asian patrons who can pour money at those few success stories tends to led to a rise in commercial interest for the cinderella success to continue until pockets are full. Thats the right pockets of course.

Naz was a stylish talented lad who arose quite swiftly with sponsorship from the King Of Yemen and clever management. A similar thing appears to be happening to Amir right now.

But lets give the kid a break. He doesnt pick his fights. His managers do. Lets wait and give the lad the benefit of the doubt. If he folds at the first hand fight. The profecy comes true. If not the story gets re written

Watch it crofty!

everyone is getting tired of Khan fighting sub-standard opponents, including me, but i still think he's a huge talent. He's young, gifted, we should support him, even if it's frustrating for us now. Maybe a loss would improve him, i'd like to see him fight Romanov or Katsidis, win or lose he would learn allot. I for one wouldnt pay for a ticket or PPV at the moment, its just not worth it. As for hatton, maybe in 2-3 years if hatton is still around, but as far as i'm concerned he hasnt proved he's world class at lighweight yet, and may need another 5 or 6 fights until he does.

What names had Naz, Hatton etc fought at the same stage of their career?

Naz beat Vincenzo Belcastro for the European title in summat like his 12th fight. Belcastro was still fighting at top european level for years after. I think Khan would struggle with the current EBU champ at lightweight. Also Naz dismantled Freddy Cruz in his 16th fight after Cruz had mixed at world level and pushed Steve Robinson to a split decision in the fight before.

Hatton fought Thaton at around this stage of his career and Khan was still being accused of avoiding him as recently as this year!

Naseem was good like him or not x

i loved watchin naz...

he never ducked a fight always the entertainer and could k'o someone from the craziest angles, we have had some A1 British fighters over the years from Henry Cooper, Benn, Eubank, Watson, Robinson, Naz and even Bruno and not one of them would ever duck a fight, not like some of the fighters of today trying to stay at the top by avoiding top contenders, its ruining the sport, years ago the excitement was there wondering who was going to win thats why Ricky Hatton has gotten so much respect because hes taken the exciting fights which he wouldnt have got if he had stayed with frank warren, its promoters like warren who are ruining british boxing aswell by trying to milk it for as much money as they can.

Cheers Mick, I should have looked at Boxrec bit couldn`t be bothered!

Would it be fair to say Naz was the flagbearer for modern day British boxing, in that he fought a lot of decent guys in World Title defences and didn`t just do well in a one off like Honeyghan etc, and he was also a forerunner in the PPV boom on Sky?

I just seem to remember you might have caught a fight on ITV or Grandstand before Naz was on the scene, then when he started doing well it also mirrored the start of Subscription telly and the riches that come with it.

Come on Vinny......

"Welter he is...Khans pissin me off now..x"

A little more positivity towards the guy would be nice. Especially coming from a man who is respected highly in the Muay Thai community by many. You got a photo next to him so im guessin you do like the guy. Sorry but I aint having a dig at you it's just that in the end of the day the guy steps into the ring unlike many who come onto this kickboxing forum. He's trying whatsoever and all people want to do is slate him off or joke about him. Yet half of them if not all of them would get outboxed by him easy. He may not be the best but shouldnt we support him either way seeing that he is trying and representing the UK. How many people from the UK end up fighting big named Thais who are are not on form when fighting out of their country and have a claim to fame thinking they made a big achievement by beating them, while the crowd think they are amazing, when infact if they fight them on their own turf at their peak we would see how they get their ass kicked. "There are many"...

Come on people lets support the UK rather than keep on slagging off!!! Stay humble and be nice and you will all get alot more respect from everyone.

Vinny. All the best........ x

Vinny, just looked at your profile and you got a pic of you and Khan? ha ha haa

In defence of vinny and the others. I dont think he/they slagged Amir off. Simply hi lighted that the lad needs to work a bit harder to win over a cynical audience who quite frankly are onto the his managements game.

Why not sit back and relax and see how things develop. Nice to be proved right. Nicer to be pleasantly surprised wrong eh?

Yep I agree he isnt slagging hinm off at all. I was having a laugh!

I guess that comment was made as Khans managment are giving him easy fights in suppose to the ones he should really be having!

I feel the same way and I am a fan of Khan!!!

Just to let you know i wasnt refereing to vinny about slagging him off! If you read all the posts on here you will see who does the slagging and joke making.

I blame Frank Warren its all his fault, that terry marsh should ave learnt to shoot straight, couldnt hit a barn door lol

Phil

In fairnes to Honeygan, he did beat Curry in the USA in a fight where he was given no chance at all. A great achievment for British boxing at the time.

I used to love to wacth Naz fight, always great fun and entertainment, especially when they brought him to the arena in that lambourgini fully dressed, great entry.

I like to watch Khan to and follow his career with interest. Like everyone else though, his low class opponents are getting a bit tiresome. Trouble is he is not good enough to step up in class and his management know it so we are stuck with it for the time being!

Linda, thanks for your reply and being honest xx also he is a massive talent but pay per view,come on yes i have a picture with him that was as he turned pro he is a nice guy maybe he isn,t pissin me off as i wrote i was or should said the boxing idea of pay per view this early on in someones career and i shouldn,t swear either so thanks for the lesson as for fighting Hatton if he won he,d be not liked as Eubank was was v Benn xxx

It’s hard to ask for positivity for Khan after the utter debacle that
is him headlining a PPV against Breidis 'John' Prescott in his next fight. Warren
has really plummeted new depths now the slimy little lizard
f*ckwit that he is.

Boxing fans are back to getting royally shafted now Warren is back with
Sky.
Khan looks like a straight up joke and is having people turn against
him cause he’s talking about winning world titles yet fighting the
like of this Prescott fella, who no f*cker, not even knowledgeable
boxing fans, have ever heard of.


What makes the whole thing even more laughable is the fact that there
is a string of decent lightweight’s in Khan’s own back yard; Murray,
Thaxton, Fewkes, and Warren won’t let his boy anywhere near them.

He’s gone from getting dropped and put on queer street by a shot
Michael Gomez to £15 PPV on Sky. It’s a disgrace, an utter disgrace.

I really truly hope this whole bill falls flat on its arse, cause if it
doesn’t we can expect Khan to be on PPV for the rest of his career,
with no incentive for him to actually fight anyone decent.

So what if everyone on this forum would be ‘outboxed’ by Khan. What
a ridiculous statement that is. I'm sure i'm better at doing my job than he is
but he would still be within his rights to comment that i am lazy
bastard, cause i am.

He’s got stupid amounts of talent obviously but he’s coming across
like a bell end cause he’s running his mouth but not backing it up and
fighting proper lightweights who are a genuine threat. He's alienated most boxing fans who were excited to watch a world class prospect when he first turned pro.

The public are getting conned and it’s embarrassing that people will
shell out their hard earned cash to watch this horrible, horrible pay
per view ‘event’.

HBO in America recently changed their minds and decided not to put
Shane Mosley v Ricardo Mayorga on PPV cause they didn’t think it was a
worthy enough fight, which says it all about the crock of absolute shite
that Warren and Sky are about to serve the British public.


It’s genuinely depressing. Especially after the Olympics where we
could watch
Cuban mentalists kick refs in the face for free on the BBC

You know when someone puts words together for you...lol xx

and thats the bottom line cos stone cold Osta says so!!!!!

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GO OSTA! GO OSTA! GO OSTA! GO OSTRICHE

Sense spoken Osta but he still does not deserve to be made fun off!

If thats how you and others feel,its fine but then also talk about the amount of fights you see where Uk fighters fight the Thai's.

Its happened, is happening and will happen.

Until the likes of the british fighting the Thai's at their peak when on form (not while jet lagged or grown old unbothered) and then winning convincingly then it's exactly the same.

Most british Thai boxer's at the top of our rankings are well over rated. It does not mean they are not good by far. But over rated by far YES!!!

Hey! look at him he beat so and so Raja champ or Lumpinee champ. But look at the performance of the Thai on that day. No way was he fighting at his peak or the very least at is best. But still... People want to rant on about how good they did and so on.

Like I said stay humble and be nice and it does not matter how good or bad you are at your game because that way you will always be respected. Sorry but I rate alot of the top ranked UK muay thai fighters personally but I feel I needed to say that. Wooooooooooooooof!!! I feel like osta did 30 minutes ago. Lets have a fag break. Not!!!

be still the osta has spoken

OSTA LAYS THE SMACK DOWN!!!!!

Ledge!!!!

Yeah our lad was supposed to fight Gomez then suddenly Khans fighting him and our lad is getting paid buttons to be Gomezs sparring partener, our lad would have been a better bout for gomez because there about the same level an undercard bout, but fucking snake face warren got in there for a easy bout for Khan (not Khans fault)..

"Until the likes of the british fighting the Thai's at their peak when on form (not while jet lagged or grown old unbothered) and then winning convincingly then it's exactly the same.
Most british Thai boxer's at the top of our rankings are well over rated. It does not mean they are not good by far. But over rated by far YES!!!
Hey! look at him he beat so and so Raja champ or Lumpinee champ. But look at the performance of the Thai on that day. No way was he fighting at his peak or the very least at is best. But still... People want to rant on about how good they did and so on."

Who are you implying Linda? Name names of who you think are over-rated.
Liam fought Gupi Wor Suthireera about 1/2 months BEFORE he won the Raja Stadium title, in his own back yard. And even then it was an arguable loss. I think it was only 49:48, with Gupi sneaking the last round to win.
And his worst bashing was against Duwao Kongidorm over here in the UK, so I think you may have your parties muddle up a bit there Linda....or have I just picked a bad example? Just speaking from what I know as Liam is a stablemate.

It takes a lot of balls and hardwork to get in the ring, never mind the commitment it takes to battle your way to a number 1 slot....and even then, this is only on a domestic scale.
To put it in "world" terms, theres very few that can actually mix it against world class, and I think kudos should be given to the fighters (and managers) that take these fight, as they obviously know its going to be an uphill stuggle. And to perform (even if they lose) is a great learning experience.

I think the point you maybe trying to get at is when fighters struggle with that internal battle of not believing in themselves when the baying public do.
Maybe spectators have the advantage of not having consequence for our instructions....
Or the fighter has greater experience to see something the audience cannot...

At the end of the day its all to do with respect and positivity and wishing our comrades the best, rather than trying to knock them down for giving 100%.







Or is this more a gripe about "management" and "taking opportunities"???

Actually noi666... Liam did not once enter my mind. He deserves to be number 1. I have other people in mind and I am not about to start blah blah blah with them and point my finger directly at them. The fighters give it their upmost 100% but I am actually refering to instructors/fans ect who give it the yeeha. What I say has happened is happening and will happen. Good on the fighters for fighting the Thais and even good on them for beating them even if they are jet lagged or grown old unbothered. BUT..... Lets not all start bigging it up and convincing our selfs that the fight was at both fighters peak. Plus I am only saying what I have to say in reference to Amir Khan and what has been said about him or joked on to him. Otherwise I would have kept quiet.

Khan should be given the chance to prove people wrong but look at the opponents.Half is size. It is the same in the MT game as well

I was shocked to find that Liam Harrisons in his last fight at Leeds was about 3kg over weight at the weigh in and didn't try to get it off and the fight went ahead.It wasn't announced to the spectators as to what went on and no one realised Liam won because the guy was prob nearly a stone heavier.

But that's the game folks. You do what you can for your man and that is what Warren is doing for Khan. I don't agree with it and I don't agree with Liam being so much heavier but it doesn't make them bad people just pushing the limits of what they can do.

I follow F1 in a big way and my favourite was Michael Schumacher.To say he pushed the rules to the limit at some points would be a fair comment and he didn't need to but did so because how competitive he was

Only when you are fighting a man the same weight with the same hunger and playing to the same rules will you know how good you are and as of yet Khan has not been in that position and until he is then the question on how good he is will remain. But PPV is not the way forward yet

Theres a tremendous pressure applied to a promoter, a fighter, an organisation to make profit. Money whilst not the route of all evil is the originator of necessity. No money no show, no fighters, no promotions, no sport.

Amirs management know their game and know how to get the best in terms of opportunity and rewards. If they over play that hand the cash will slow or stop.

Possibly the time has come for Amir to prove his worth and really work for his cash. Maybe not? Eitherway; he deserves the change to prove the cynics wrong. I hope he does.

one of the officials said liam was 0.6kg over he was about to go sweat if off but the old thai guy said dont bother as he gave away 1kg to namphol or wateva his name was on both occasions when they fought.

dont know where my post went but ill write it again.....


nige aswell as being a complete wanker you are also misinformed....ask anyone who was in the weigh in room that day what happened....Master Sken was wintnessing everything as he was with the thai trainer who said i didnt have to skip of .7 of a kg which is what i was over as i gave Namhon nearly a kg weight advantage both times we fought and he didnt matter cos the thai would be 65-66kg in the morning anyway. I even had my sweatsuit on running round the gym which once again people will vouch for who were there and the thai came over and told me to stop...i aint gonna argue really with that as .7 of a kilogram is nothing.....For someone with as little Knowledge about Muaythai as you to say i only won the fight cos i was 3kg heavier (which is irrelevant cos its a lie) dont really mean that much cos as i said you know about motorbikes and being a big mouth tossa...Not Muaythai...i always thought you were sound but for you to write that is ridiculous....After I koed the thai trainers last fighter he brought over with a weight disadvantage do you really think he would let 3kg slide????????????? Dont be ridiculous and stick to playin on your motorbikes, cos whoever you get your info on is as clueless as you....you have tried to make me look a complete knob with this ridiculous lie i thought you might have at least asked me if it was true, you have my email and my number it wouldnt have been hard!!!!!

i think i owe Nige an apolagy...im informed its not him using the accounts....OOPs sorry Nige :) i dint mean it i was just mad!!

whos responsible for this?

wow!

I dont know who is responsible for that, but they have two angry fellas after them now.

It seems that Nigels password is in the public domain. The last part of the thread is to be removed.

Liam badco dont let them get you down, there all jealois fucking maggots whoever
they are, you your trainer and the thai team know the truth and thats all that matters( the wise man listens, while the fools chatter), anyway lets end this thread can Khan beat Hatton, can he fuck, end of.

Oh dear oh dear oh dear. It's the real Nigel here. I was sat on the mountain today looking at all the pretty heather and sheep waiting for the bikes and get a message off Liam. So, I ring him and we chat.

I don't think it's my password that is in the public domain. I think it's my remote connection that is. I'm pretty sure who will have done it because they have the PC that could do it i.e my old one

I have no knowledge of what was claimed regarding Liam and I ain't getting in to it. I've asked Dave Jackson to change my password and that should be the end of it.

People know that if I had said something I'd stand by it and argue it no matter who it upset. Apology excepted from Liam and I must return that apology because of the hassle he has been caused even though it was not me. If anyone was wondering what I think of Liam? I've never had a problem with him, in the past I have agreed to sponsor him before selling my shop and it continued.He's a good example for the sport although the hair at time can be a bit dodgy haha

We don't share warm showers at night but the realtionship I have with him will remain the same even though we don't contact each other that much. It's funny that when it was being written I was out playing with motorbikes haha.

This should be worth 2 free tickets to his next fight for me and Sam haha

Have to admit Liam H is a bit of a bad boy! I mean this in a good way Liam!!

weed out the imposter responsible

that went a bit crazy, good thread right there!!!!!

lunney u love a good yo'mamma dont ya

any predictions on this "undefeated" matchup nxt saturday

I predict i won't be watching it on pay per view!! Robbing feckers!
And it will prob only go 2 rounds.....

Still it's better than listening to ITV Pundits "bigging" it all up!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gJBzu0mlCKk

ill have the 2 blondes u can have the 2 trannys