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Danii Barlow
Posted: 2009-12-01 14:37:25
Best Way 2 Shift Weight -
Don't usually post on Ax but I was wondering whats the best way to shift weight as I don't want to go about it the wrong way!

If anyone has any ideas it would be really helpful

Many Thanks
Danii x
adam hanuman
Posted: 2009-12-01 14:58:19
Posted: 2009-12-01 15:44:23
eat less or s**t more.
Danii Barlow
Posted: 2009-12-01 15:49:51

Well, I've started running and I'm eatin less!!

Was wondering if theres certain things 2 eat that aint obvious lol

But Thanks :)
Posted: 2009-12-01 15:58:42
Danii Barlow
Posted: 2009-12-01 16:08:42
Great help thanks :)
scuba steve
Posted: 2009-12-01 16:08:57
no booz
minimum food
only eat white meat (chicken,ect)

carbs during training (pasta,potato) cut back coming up to fight if weight not going well

do not eat after 6 pm

Posted: 2009-12-01 16:56:58
Run a lot, train a lot, eat healthily, cut out the rubbish.

there is no science to it really, its just self discipline.
Posted: 2009-12-01 18:13:24
How much weight do you want to lose and how quickly? Between Jan 2007 and May 2009 I lost 47 kilos, and after putting on some weight over summer after my fight I'm in the final stages of making it 49 kg. Just 2 kg to go. 86 kg last week and I'm working on getting down to 84 in time for xmas. The main things I did were eating smaller portions, not eating between meals, drinking less (sometimes no booze at all for a month or more), and gradually increasing the training. At the moment I'm doing a completely insane 1 x BJJ, 1 x MMA, 2 x Thai boxing, 1 x submission grappling and 1 x longish Sunday afternoon bike ride every week. One thing I discovered while doing all this is that anyone can call themselves a nutritionist with no training whatsoever, even if they work for the Lard Marketing Board or one of those places that sell overpriced vitamin pills that don't do a great deal apart from enrich the seller. Some may have pseudo-medical qualifications (Gillian McKeith bought a PhD from a non-recognised correspondence college, and she eventually agreed with the ASA that she wouldn't call herself a doctor on the grounds that she wasn't one). By contrast, last year I asked my GP to refer me to a dietician (protected term that means someone with certain qualifications) and following her advice I went on to lose 14 kg in just over a year. There's a lot of claptrap in the diet and alternative health industry that can be largely ignored. You need to make sure you eat enough to keep up with what you're doing (I was surprised when my dietician told me I should be eating a bit more), but for weight loss the most important thing is the amount you eat. Conventional techniques work pretty well as I've found, and once you look a bit deeper into "alternative" diets you'll find most of them are pretty similar but with some gimmick to make them proprietary and expensive.

One thing to watch before you do this is making sure you weigh enough and that there are no underlying problems. It's easy to get obsessed with weight loss and there are certain age groups that are at particular risk of eating disorders. Talk to your GP and see what they suggest.
Danii Barlow
Posted: 2009-12-02 17:09:30
I used 2 weight 62kg but over the last year put on alot of weight, and went up to about76 kg max I'd say so I went to my GP they did blood tests for an underachive thyroid but after to test it came back clear. So I can't see my GP being much help lol!

I'm tryin 2 get back down to 62-64kg again. I'm down to 71kg at the moment so I'm just trying to eat the right things and train hard but find it hard bcuz I don't kno whats right and wrong appart from the obvious!

I train 3 times a week and do dance in college all day and try to go running now so hopefully it should start shifting when I get a eating plan (Right foods etc etc etc!)

Thanks for all the Help it's very much appreciated!!
Posted: 2009-12-03 06:20:37
You don`t have to have a super strict diet.

Most are impossible and unrealistic to follow.

Swap a bacon sarnie for a weetabix.

Swap a Greggs pasty for a tuna salad.

Swap pie and chips for chicken and veg.

Swap a pudding for a daily treat like a little chocolate biscuit.

Swap crisps and chocolate snacks inbetween meals for fruit.

Run and train.

Simple and bobs your uncle, weight off, healthy outlook.
Posted: 2009-12-05 05:26:29
Some fantastic advice and wise words there Marcus.
Kelly Leach
Posted: 2009-12-05 19:12:50
Mh great sensible advice, nice to see.

I joined a slimming club a few years back and lost over 5 stone, and my main issue, I wasn't eating enough, one of the things I remember most of all was the advice the human body is like a fire, it needs fuel to burn... No fuel no burning...

You dont feed the body it shuts down and stores fat its a starvation mode built in unfortunatly! (DAMN)

But generally common sense and if you are really trying and not getting results then go back to your GP for further blood tests.

Good luck.

K :)
Posted: 2009-12-05 22:06:01
I've been pretty sceptical of the alternative health and diet industry for some time, and the turning point was back in about 2000 when someone introduced me to something called the "Mayo Clinic Diet", an ultra low calorie that was supposedly given to cardiac patients to lose weight quickly before surgery and based mostly on pork chops, boiled eggs and grapefruit. I tried it for a couple of days but something didn't seem quite right. For a start you only ate about 500 calories a day, and second red meat and eggs are pretty high in cholesterol and saturated fat which a cardiac ward certainly wouldn't recommend. I did a quick Google and the first link I found was from the real Mayo Clinic which said "this is nothing to do with us and could be potentially dangerous". After reading that I immediately stopped it and went out to buy a nice pie.

The basics of nutrition are pretty straight forward: food contains a mix of fat (including fatty acids and related compounds such as sterols in plants or cholesterol in meats), carbs (as starch or sugars), protein, dietary fibre and micronutrients such as vitamins (certain types are called antioxidants, although the body can produce some antioxidants by itself) and minerals. The body processes these in different ways. Fats become adipose cells, carbs are used for energy, protein is used to build muscles, fibre is indigestible, and micronutrients have other purposes such as calcium being used for bones and iodine being concentrated in the thyroid gland. All are essential, but the important bit is the amount you eat. Cutting out carbs can make you feel weak and dizzy because of low blood sugar. Lack of fibre can cause constipation. Most western diets have plenty of fat and protein. However high protein foods tend to be things like meat and nuts which are also generally pretty high in fat. Meanwhile the respiration process uses up the body's reserves of energy. The more active you are, the more energy you use. Carbs go first, then adipose fat, then muscle mass. In order to lose weight you need calories expended to be greater than calories in, but not so low that the body goes into starvation mode.

This is GCSE level human biology and understanding the digestion/respiration process from a scientific point of view is a good antidote to the many quacks and charlatans there are. One therapy I've heard of involves pouring coffee up your backside (I just hope it's not fresh off the boil!). Food supplement pills are also very commonly promoted even though they either contain far less than standard foods or contain more than the body can handle and end up passing through and being flushed down the loo. This is why one of the side effects of vitamin B tablets is bright yellow urine. There's no such thing as "catalyst" foods, and the idea of "negative calories" (foods that apparently take more calories to digest than they provide) came from a single study of overweight women over 40 which found that eating plenty of fresh fruit and veg led to weight loss.

Fad or proprietary diets tend to have some kind of gimmick to encourage you to follow them. Atkins is a low calorie one that excludes carbs. Most "detox" diets are ultra low calorie ones that exclude cooked foods. However some foods (such as potatoes or certain types of bean) contain toxic compounds that are broken down by cooking, and it would be a very brave person that tried eating raw chicken. "Detoxing" is another nonsense: the body processes most things within about 24 hours, and genuine poisoning usually needs some treatment other than not eating "processed" food. There's an interesting article about detox here and the rest of the Sense About Science site is worth a read as well, especially "I've got nothing to lose by trying it".

The science is the easy bit. What's tricky about weight loss is keeping the intake under control, which is a lot more psychological. Some people like the support of a weight loss group such as Weight Watchers or Slimmers World. Others like sessions with motivational speakers or hypnotherapists. Another option is doing it with friends or by setting some target. This is where the diet industry comes in. I know a certain mindset might find it difficult to understand that I've lost nearly 50 kilos simply by eating standard food that you can get from a supermarket, but it's fair to say I've got very good self discipline. There's no "right" answer to what might keep you motivated, you've just got to try a few things and find one that works.
Kelly Leach
Posted: 2009-12-06 07:16:25
Mh... Can I come and live at your house for 6 months with packed lucnh provided? ;)

Posted: 2009-12-07 08:04:06
Just remember its a lifestyle change, not a quick fix.
Posted: 2010-06-17 05:56:21
Water water water.... drink lots of it..
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