Enfusion Live October 12th - England

Enfusion Live is back!! this time at the Famous Ringmasters Arena (Swallows) in Stittingbourne , Kent.

Enfusion Live is the fastest growing kickboxing promotion in the world with over 100 countries tuned in to watch thrilliong action.

ENFUSION LIVE WORLD TITLE 63KGS

GREG WOOTON (ENGLAND) vs PIETJE DORJE (SURINAME)

In the main card and topping the bill is Greg Wooton of the famous KO gym in London , he will be fighting for the 63kgs Enfusion Live world title versus Pietje Dorje from Suriname. \

English fans will know Wooton , regarded as one of the best in his division having fought across the world and being a very strong knee/clincher. Having taking time out for studies he is now focused on Enfusion rules and under the watchful eye of head Coach and mentor Bill Judd he has added more weapons to his incredible arsenal.Dorje based in Holland , qualified for the title by winning the A1 8 man grand prix in empthatic fashion. The tough Surinam trained by El Otmani will be a incredible battle between two of the worlds techinical gifted fighters.

ADAM HART (ENGLAND) vs KAY BULT (HOLLAND) - 95KGS MAX

Adam Hart back from a five year absense came back with a bang on his last Enfusion Live from the O2 in June. Winning in devastivg fashion against the very durable Lithuaian , Remigijius Reblys in round one. After blowing of some ring rust off his aim for next year is the 95kgs divison belt but in his way is the tall counter figther from Holland Kay Bult. Ka Bult is a rising star from Haarlem has other ideas about Harts ambition and has promised a devasting KO!! an edge of the seat encounter promised between two heavyweight contenders.

Four more Live event contests to be announced this week including a stacked undercard featuring ENGLAND VS GERMANY.

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Undercard - ROOKIES

ENGLAND VERSUS GERMANY

Daniel Terry (Team Tieu) vs Timo Schmyd 63kgs

Sheere Halliday (Team Tieu/Keddles) vs Johanna Krese 63kgs

Grace Spicer (Keddles) vs Klara Lamde 56kgs

Jay Gridley (Double K) vs Thomas Stoll 75kgs

ROOKIES NATIONALS

Luke Whelan (Double K) vs Freddie Lumor (Minotaurs) 70kgs

Jake Crawford (Double K) vs Ben Roberts (Strom) 62kgs

Rory Crawford (Keddles) vs Ben Baah (Storm) 65kgs

more to follow including Evan Jay , Jonathan Haggerty , Rob Hayward Andy MorzolaNick Lynch , Dan Bowie

the Pretty Killer

Michael "the destoyer" Wakeling - ritains most exciting fighter bar none.

Michael "the destoyer" Wakeling - Britains most exciting fighter bar none.

Adam "Shrek" Hart - KO specialist.

Charlie "hands of Thor" Peters

Looks like a great show Kieran.

looks like a awesome line up to enfusion live 8 and see you and the rest of the enfusion crew incluing julie kitchen next month in sittingbourne kent

from steve

This fight card looks awesome!

Charlie Peters (Eng) vs Kevin Miruka (kenya) 70KG


Charlie impressed highly on his last fight against the very durable Abdil Bchiri. He now faces Dutch based Kenyan Kevin Miruka who is now for his super speed and low kicks. Charlie , a former WMC world muaythai champion is the more expeiernced of the two but this Kenyan wants to make a mark on the world wide scene.

www.youtube.com/watch?v=XAOWogEgTco - promo

that pic of M Wakeling is awesome

Good to see Greg Wooton back on down south

There is an arena in sleepy little Sittingbourne?
Is it not at Swallows Community Leisure Centre?

Iman Barlow (UK) vs Filipa Correia (Portugal)

Iman Barlow returns to Enfusion in a non title fight vs Portugese star Correira. Te Pretty Killer had been preparing in Thailand and is excited to get into the ring where last time she was in London she was crowned World champion defeating Alexis Rofus over 5 rounds Filipa is not only a European silver medalist but champion of Portugal with 28 fights to her record.

@enfusionlive - twitter

Full line up to be announced by Friday.

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ENFUSION LIVE


ADAM HART (UK) VS KAY BULT (HOLLAND) 95KGS

IMAN BARLOW (UK) VS FILIPA CORERIA (PORTUGAL)54kgs

CHARLIE PETERS (UK) vs KEVIN MIRUKA (KENYA)70kgs

MARTIN AVERY (UK)vs LESLEY RISA (HOLLAND) 63KGS

GREG WOOTON (UK) vs PIETE DORJE (SURINAME) 63KGS

ONE MORE FIGHT TO BE ANNOUNCED

ROOKIES UNDERCARD

UK VS Europe

Daniel Terry (Team Tieu) vs Timo Schmyd 63kgs

Sheere Halliday (Team Tieu/Keddles) vs Johanna Krese 63kgs

Jay Gridley (Double K) vs Thomas Stoll 75kgs

Grace Spicer (Keddles) vs Lami Dhani (SPAIN) 55kgs

ROOKIES NATIONALS

Luke Whelan (Double K) vs Freddie Lumor (Minotaurs) 70kgs

Pete Irving (BADBOY) vs Imanol Rodrigues (Storm) 77kgs

Jake Crawford (Double K) vs Ben Roberts (Storm) 62kgs

Rory Crawford (Keddles) vs Ben Baah (Storm) 65kgs

Jonathan Haggerty (Keddles) vs Elliot Burke (Storm) 57kgs

Rob Hayward (SHinkick) vs Sam Nicholls (Storm)

You got plans to film the show for TV?

You got plans to film the show for TV?

Regards to television - Enfusion will announce a deal in the next week.

yes!! about time Enfusion got on TV

Thanks kieran.

It was a follow up question based on another thread. It's shows like this with a card oozing talent and quality that need to be shown on TV.

I've been knocking on doors for a long time , I'm hoping we seal a deal this week.

Changes to the card

Charlie Peters is out with a injury so in steps Luke Whelan

Luke Whelan vs Kevin Miruka


On ROOKIES undercard

Rory Crawford (KEDDLES) vs Alex Bublea (MINOTAURS) 65

Roland Ogen (KEDDLES) vs Lasher Kurun (Germany) heavy

ROOKIES

Doors open 4pm fights start at 5pm

ROOKIES UNDERCARD

Jake Crawford (Double K) vs Ben Roberts (Storm) 62kgs

Evan Jay (Benfleet) vs Oussama Addi (Holland) 42kgs

Jonathan Haggerty (Keddles) vs Elliot Burke (Storm) 57kgs

James Gridley (Double K) vs Thomas Stoll (Germany) 75kgs

Rory Crawford (Keddles) vs Alex Bublea (MINOTAURS) 65kgs

Rob Hayward (SHinkick) vs Sam Nicholls (Storm) 70kgs

Grace Spicer (Keddles) vs Lami Dhani (SPAIN) 55kgs

Pete Irving (BADBOY) vs Imanol Rodrigues (Spain) 77kgs

Leigh Hendley (KEDDLES) vs Timo Schmyd (Germany) 63kgs

ENFUSION LIVE 9pm

Luke Whelan (UK) vs Kevin Miruka (Ken) 70kgs

Lasher Kurun (Germany) vs Sergei Maslobovej (Russia) 100kgs

Daniel Terry (UK) vs Lesley Risa (Chile) 63kgs

Iman Barlow (UK) vs Filipa Coreira (Portugal) 53kgs

Adam Hart (UK) vs Kay Bult (Holland) 95kgs

ENFUSION WORLD TITLE 63KGS

Greg Wooton (UK) vs Piete Dorje (Suriname)

The undercard alone is worthy of its own show!
Looks really cool, best of luck with it KK!

Not long now.......

can t wait for this imans looking sharp and cant wait to get back in the ring

good luck to me old mate sheree and the very lovely iman!

Roland Ogun (KEDDLES) vs Rainer Deutsch (GERMANY) 95kgs+

Rob Hayward (SHINKICK) vs Sam Nicholls (STORM) 70kgs

James Gridley (DOUBLE K) vs Thomas Stoll (GERMANY) 75kgs

Jonathan Haggerty (KEDDLES) vs Elliot Burke (STORM) 57kg

Evan Jay (BENFLEET) vs Oussama Addi (HOLLAND) 42kgs

Jake Crawford (DOUBLE K) vs Ben Roberts (STORM) 62kgs

Grace Spicer (KEDDLES) vs Lami Dhani (SPAIN) 55kgs

Leigh Hendley (KEDDLES) vs Timo Schmyd (GERMANY) 63kgs

Pete Irving (BADBOY) vs Imanol Rodrigues (SPAIN) 77kgs

ENFUSION LIVE 9pm

Luke Whelan (UK) vs Kevin Miruka (KENYA) 70kgs

Lasher Kurun (GERMANY) vs Rustem Gusienov (RUSSIA) 100kgs

Daniel Terry (UK) vs Lesley Risa (CHILE) 63kgs

Iman Barlow (UK) vs Filipa Coreira (PORTUGAL) 53kgs

Adam Hart (UK) vs Kay Bult (HOLLAND) 95kgs

ENFUSION WORLD TITLE 63KGS

Greg Wooton (UK) vs Piete Dorje (SURINAME)

Is that the fight order mate?

Can't wait, Absolutely buzzing and thank you for having me on.

At the moment yes

Had the honour to fight on the last enfusion at the o2. Fantastic show and well looked after! Good luck to everyone involved!

Results?

No news on enfusion twitter, facebook whats the point in following.

From what I remember (please correct if wrong)...

Greg Wootton won via points.
Iman Barlow won via points.
Adam Hart via KO
Pete Irvine via points
Daniel Terry via TKO?
Evan Jay via points?
Grace Spicer via points.
Rob Hayward via TKO
Jake Crawford via TKO
Roland via points.

That's all I remember.

Thanks and well done Rob Hayward.

Good to read Greg winning again. Anyone know when and where we'll be able to watch?

I want to see greg on glory, domesticly there isnt much left for him hes beaten all the top contenders.

It's hard enough for a promoter to put on a show and actually make a single penny from it these days without having our own theiving from us !! how the fcuk can we expect to take this sport further when we don't even support each other !!

what am I talking about ? .... Someone stole Kieran Keddles (Double K's) Gloves (a few pairs) and shorts from the changing rooms saturday night....

scumbags, absolute scumbags

how many gloves and shorts? wtf!

wicked show whens the next one

Jesus man that's low! Hope he finds out who it was

Iman "Pretty Killer" Barlow vs Filipa De Oliveira Correia was the best fight of the night in sittingbourne kent at swallows leisure centre

youtu.be/PSBV3pFttiM

Me and Iman "Pretty Killer" Barlow before the event started

Me and the one and only queen of muay thai Julie Kitchen before the event started

Me and Lucy Payne at the end of the night

Mate you freak me out, i know your a fan but your borderline obsessed with julie kitchen and now these other girls..hope im wrong

Is that Rob Story in the background of the Lucy Payne picture????? lol

haha yes it is Zebs

Groupie photo bombing. ;-)

TINO ''Mate you freak me out, i know your a fan but your borderline obsessed with julie kitchen and now these other girls..hope im wrong''

LMAO

Awesome photo bombing by Rob Storey too.

Some good videos on that youtube channel, thanks for sharing.

www.youtube.com/user/hbkmcmahon/videos

I think he needs to have a look at his form in the vid with the bicep curls!! ;)

its good technique for getting a pump zebedee

We all love a bit of lucy payne ;)

Come to think of it, i haven't harrassed her in fucking ages. Better fire up whatssap lol

Big fan of the you tube channel Liam, there is a very disturbing sneak vid of some Morris dancers. The bedroom bicep curls are top class. Great endurance in those bi's lol

Hbkmcmahon Muay Thai.

Keep doing what you do.
Good to see a fan of UK muay thai

stop digging the man out over his videos. Bit different from the norm but seems harmless

Isn't that what they said about Fred West?

ouchy

i dont care about lucy or julie but dont be fucking weird with iman! shes too young for you to go anywhere near! this is freaky shit! fucking rare dude! leave iman out of your video's please, iv no connection to her but its weird!

if you had the occasional fight of a man it wouldnt be so strange but as it is its clear your looking at these girls as sex symbols and perving fuck that

Appears that hes a fan of female fighters
Nuthin wrong with that. Especially since hes introducing us to them

mate its a perv thing though isnt it! why would you be a fan of female fighters and not male fighters! i used to date an athletic fitness model and guys would find her number and ask to pay her to watch her play tennis! there is more to it keith! its not innocent il guarantee you! the only thing he has about men on there is a slide show clip of david hasslehoff that speaks volumes in its self!

dont diss the hoff man!

youtu.be/Y8WoJBtFxgM

I am upset they have not included Shaun taking a tumble in the main event

wheres the tumble rich? i tried to watch it all but couldnt

Lol didn't tumble (although have done in the past). Was about to break the clinch when Mr.Wootton decided to hip throw his opponent who crashed his heel full power into my neck, whipped me backwards for a split second but I got back on it.

No way was I going to get knocked out on live TV to over 100 countries!.....Sorry to disappoint ;-)

Have to say it looked like a pretty good hip throw.

fair play to greg for using it, still dont understand that crazy trips and hip throws allowed rule

Greg used quite a few of those to good effect and they are new to me with this rule set.I have to get in close to break the clinch and if a hip throw is initialised prior to this then that's where I can get clouted. I have worked out a better approach to alleviate the problem in this rule set now. Either that or I wear head gear!

re-steve chambers

yes,he is a little "recluse" arguably a little strange and yes he favours the female athletes in muaythai...

but-he is a harmless guy and a true fan that was very excited last weekend as he was INVITED to attend enfusion and meet his "heroes" free of charge--believe me when i say that sometimes it pisses me off that i have julie pics shoved in my face everyday by him on fb/twitter-- but love her or hate her- she is the best ambassador of muaythai this country has and iman barlow will shortly follow.if thats his beliefs then he is more switched on than most on here.;-)

however--what does piss me off is the " team" of idiots that invited him as part of a little joke that havent got the guts to come on here and defend him as some of the posts on here could potentially leave the guy in a state..a guy who was encouraged for weeks on the internet to be a special guest and now is the butt of all jokes--
steve spends 24/7 promoting julie,lucy and iman - no-1 complains about that when they have free exposure --
ok-it might be all he has to do,yet none of the above are on here defending him--its disgusting and proves a lot -its one thing having a private joke but to sit back and let him take shit is just so typical.
im gutted,yet not surprised that 2 of them are my fighters so im not just pointing fingers away from home.

also--maybe when people throw the word "perv" out there you should think about the instructor in his 30s who left his wife/kids and ran off with a 15/16 year old, yet is allowed in the changing rooms/corner on enfusion shows with nothing said whatsoever.at least iman is 18-20 and old enough to choose to have a picture taken with someone.

sandy isnt in his 30s surely! mate its creepy, i dont know the guy if any of those girls were my sister id hunt him and id tell them to stay well well away!


"-- but love her or hate her- she is the best ambassador of muaythai this country has!"

your wrong but its your wife/gym buddy so being biased is fair! shes probably the strongest woman currently in the uk but not near the technical ability of the top lads! it does get old though! over rating the same person time after time! why would anyone prefer womans football? they dont, its not as good! womens football has more hot women in than mens football but its not as high action packed as the mens and the same generally rings true for muay thai! i honestly think iman is technically far superior to julie 3 years ago let alone now, her alternating 10 body kick combo when has julie ever done something like that! sorry nathan just my absolute honest opinion!

I'm with Nathan, I'm up for a joke but it takes the piss that everyone has ganged up on this guy.

It's bullying. Leave the guy alone.

Alternating a 10 body kick combo is great if your fighting a muppet that cant block obvious bodykicks!!

Go abroad and away from ax and ask who is the no1 female

Nothing to do with me anymore and nothing to do with my gym - and truely not my argument anymore-its just a fact that i spent far too much of my time proving x

mate your so rude sometimes fuck what the americans think they aint that clued up! ask the thais to watch iman and watch julie then ask them who they think is the better fighter! 90% would say iman!

Steve is harmless he was invited I texted him and said not to go on here because of this type of thing and honestly he's a mega fan of the girls nothing sinister.

Nathan.

Do not invade my forum with lies.

Steve was invited to the show by Betty (producer of Enfusion) , she specially invited him because he loves the shows and of course the ladies on it. NO ONE took the piss out of him. I made sure he had a good seat and I know he met all his fighter favourites. What more can you ask?

Secondly ,

I am Manager of Iman Barlow , and a good friend of Julie aswell. There is no competition between them. Different weights , eras etc. both amazing.LET IT GO.
But to come on here and insult first of all a very good opponent , but also the ability of imans kicking is damn right low. It also insults my match making.

You have nothing to prove and don't need to write repeated bollocks. So once again LET IT GO.

Nathan sort it out again mate Jesus!! Don't come in insulting Iman who whoever you like it or not is our pound for pound best ever UK female fighter IMO! Julie is/was awesome in her time we all know that. It's not about her anymore mate Iman is THE girl out there doing it and has been smashing it since the age of 5. Her technique is second to none and she's stong as fook to boot, deserves nothing but praise and congratulations handing out to her and her team.
Why always so much competition?? Why not just apreciatte we have more than 1 single female fighter who smashes it at top level?!

Julie is great no questions asked and nothing bad to say there, but right now Iman is the girl doing it why not just get behind her and support her!

People are only pointing out the obvious that he abit different and it makes some people uncomfortable including myself, sure he is harmless and hasnt done anything but does something have to happen before something is said?
Im sure not bullying him just stating how i feel, you nathan get far too personal nobody even debated whether iman or julie is better but you still somehow turn it into a full blown arguement, personally technically iman is superior to julie,
Shes trained since she was a toddler its not an attack on julie at all. Her achievements speak for themselves.
Im out on this subject

Since when did fancying women become an issue on Ax? Did the Muay Thai world go heterophobic or something? Give the guy his due, he got closer than most blokes of his age and seems to have blagged a free show out of it as well! Kudos in my book....

few and far between some of the female fighters being hot. mind you there was some Belgian girl on a fight poster on here last week, I tried to add her on FB but somebody must have told her what a sex-case I am lol.

In all seriousness, I don't see how anyone can find the females sexually attractive when they are braided up and in the ring. They are there purely to fight and that's how you consider them, as fighters. Out of the ring ,when they get glammed up- and its a female thing, to use make-up/clothing etc to accentuate their attractive features in every culture, some of them look superb and you think of them first and foremost as a female, not a female fighter. That's a natural instinct and our species depends upon such interpretation.

whether they're a good looking girl and/or a good fighter are two separate issues. The appreciation should stay separate.
I don't get turned on by 2 women fighting. I know that some women do when it comes to men fighting , but that's a different story, men historically have always fought each other for control of females and territory. I'm not saying women cant or shouldn't fight btw.

i remember her hawk man fit as a robber horse mate!

iv been told by someone i respect that this guy is alright still i think its a bit much! when people go missing off the face of the planet its these sort of things that would be classed as missed signs! if i were iman i would stay well away and have him take the vids of you down! i dont care about lucy or julie let them do what they feel fit, its just a coincedence the girls he likes all seem to be pretty! no swamp donkies in there is there! or butch lezza's! its clearly a fantasy thing!

I loved those bodykicks #buakaw

thats muay thai skills

Fail to see where i dissed iman by saying she is the next julie?
I have not once offered julie v iman so to say it is more bs--paul im not being rude, just realistic, opinions vary dude but the evidence is out there- google-facebook- etc etc- the ratings are evidence not just opinions by a click on this forum--i stated that julie was the best AMBASSADOR britain has had--

Julie would think nothing of giving away 2kg so stick iman in with lucy who can make 57kg-would be a great fight imo although obviously its deemed a mismatch by the experts- any show full rules

Or is it an insult to ask for a match on the ax forum llike it is for a guy to post a few pics?

your brazen mate! 2kgs is too much, lucy is a lot bigger than iman! if 2 kgs is nothing why not loose the 2kgs and fight at imans weight? i dont know if imans team would want that fight or anyone would want that fight the way the arguments come across on here!

lol.

there you go.
you guys are always on here saying how thais can give weight 2kg+ when its your mates weighing in heavy to fight them.
yet someone you describe as better than the worlds best who constantly gave weight up to 4kg and took fights at late notice wont give away 2kg.?


"Alternating a 10 body kick combo is great if your fighting a muppet that cant block obvious bodykicks!!"

how is this slagging a fighter? its aimed more towards laughing at the silly bugger who thinks this combo can provide evidence of someone being better than julie

its like saying tong po would beat anyone because he kicked a concrete post.

ive seen iman fight and she is awesome and i agree technically better at times but she hasnt done as much as julie has done for the sport as an ambassador-no-one has-i said nothing else but that in my first comment,but as usual everyone reads half a post and kicks off on me.

also--thanks to steve chambers who sent a message of thanks and an apology for my post,the thanks was for standing up for him as he was being branded a perv and blatantly being bullied.
the apology was for me because as usual everyone has twisted things onto me to take attention of the real issue and themselves.

vinny-you txt steve to tell him not to go on ax and show his pics--why the hell shouldnt he? he is a muaythai fan,ax is a muaythai forum--the click of idiots on here have now forced him off but you didnt even want him on in the first place.if your warning people off them then why are you even friends with them all.?

kieren--you call me a liar and make out you gave steve chambers top service,but why did you only emerge on here to slate me after the discussion was aimed at you? if you are so nice to steve chambers,why didnt you stick up for him in the first place? or was you coincidently not reading your own thread until you were mentioned?

also if steve wasnt a piss take to you all,then why invite him vip to watch and meet the female fighters and yet snub a free pass to "awakening" who are a established media group dedicated to providing free and amazing profiles to all female athletes-dosent make sense if you want to make the most of your promotion.

He's a fan evidently and I text him saying you,ll get slated as he has and you and I have simple as that such is the nature of ax sadly.

Julie was commentating and was as amazed at Iman,s ability as everyone else was she's the future of the sport the torch has been passed over its in good hands,regardless of what you thought of the other fighter try and body kick someone 10 times moving backwards in a fight!! She's brilliant x

Seen Iman fight a few times now the girl is something special brilliant talent and great for the sport the girl she fought was no mug either through skill she made it look easy

it still baffles me that Iman is only just being talked about (properly i mean). She has been fighting since the late nineties (albeit at a junior level) she was fighting before a lot of the recent champions had even started training, let alone fighting. She HAS been an ambassador for the sport, since the age of 5, fighting all over Europe, fighting in Thailand. Ask the Thai's about English girls and its Iman they will talk about first and foremost and its not a recent thing, they can remember pretty much watching her grow up fighting over there, on massive shows in Bangkok.
Any girls that fight internationally, regularly, over a long period of time are ambassadors for their respective countries.
I totally agree that Julie has done massive amounts in terms of profiling UK female fighters and she works relentlessly to further the sport and i also think Julie has managed to change the publics perspective of female fighters etc, but Imans achievements from a such a young age should never be overlooked and i think sometimes its just her recent career that is highlighted or maybe its not, it might just be the stuff i read (probably miss some stuff thats out there).
If Iman ever hits America they will go crazy for her, no doubt about it! Would love to see her fight van-soest in the states.

ps-thats not a dig at you Nathan in any way. Can totally understand your points.

Agreed maranne

Its about tme iman getting the exposure, she rightly deserves.
Now she is old enough, no doubt set for big things. I
think Imans team has been clever hokding her back till an adult.
Now look, and this I think is just the start.

Iman is for me the most exciting/best female fighter ever... infact, again (for me).. the most exciting pound for pound female in any sport bar none !! and I 100% believe she will go down in history as the best female fighter ever !

I was at the show Saturday with a mate (former 2 x world champion) and her fight was the only fight we didn't speak at all during it (nothing negative about any other fights as were all good.. Greg etc was class)

We were just so engrossed.... I had told him about her and he had never seen her fight and said straight after "I want to meet her, she is incredible"

She seems to make everyone feel like this and is so exciting to watch as she has such an Arsenal and knows exactly how/when to use/ mix it up.

Already I cannot wait to see her next fight... will anyone ever bet against her ? I certainly wouldnt ..... would you ?

Barlow has a far more entertaining style to watch than Kitchen ever had

I'm an fan of Kitchen also, just like I used to love Germaine de randamie...... I just feel Barlow is here to change the script....

Would your mate(2x world champion happen to be david pacquette)?
I agree with everything about marriannes post, i believe iman would give some of the lads at her weight trouble she is that good, and when exposed to the americans her skills coupled with her bubbly carefree attitude she will be a superstar. Van soest is the perfect fight for her to get that exposure, kieran and mark barlow need to make that fight happen.

Iman has always been good, better under proper A class full Muay Thai too.

marianne
Posted: 2013-10-17 17:36:42
it still baffles me that Iman is only just being talked about

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Marianne unfortunately usually the lighter fighters dont get as much attention as the heavier ones, and women definitely dont get recognised as much as the male fighters even when they are 10 times better.

I would like to see Bernice Aldiss come back she was for me one of the best female fighters i have seen apart from Daoprasuk of course.

No Tino, not Pacquette although I think he was a class fighter also and a nice bloke... didn't mention name as my point would be side tracked then.... just the fact that a world level male fighter of our sport was in complete awe of a girl that deserves everything she gets right now.... deserves everyone to be talking about her etc

we have to remember she has had more fights that lots of thai fighters and she is only about 1 years old... also this is only the start of her career..... crazy when you look at it like that

"she is only about 1 years old........"

Lol, wow, only one!! Imagine when she is I dunno, 4 ha ha!

Only joking mate, just bored at my desk at work!

Continuing with Iman, her, her father and younger brother are just really nice, friendly and down to Earth people too, had the pleasure of exchanging a few words backstage!

Really looking forward to see her career go from strength to strength.

Erik Lloyd

For me julie was awsome but went into a fight to win. Obviously what you want to do but when iv seen iman fight she just wants to fight and doesn't give a shit whos put in front of her. Thats what spectators who are involved in the sport want to see.Thats why I think in a few years time if that, iman will be the only female talked about

Nathan - shut up.

Daoprasuk, there is a blast from the past!

Nathan you are your own worst enemy, you always complain about your fighters not getting the big fights on uk shows do you not ever wonder why? You make enemies with promoters/gyms/fighters/coaches and to make it worst you do it mostly on ax of all places. The muay thai community in the uk is very tight knit everybody knows everyone and we all try help each other out, imo and this aint a personal attack on you but just my view, you hold your fighters back with your shenanigans outside the ring. No doubt your a good coach the champions youve produced speaks for itself

Superpetch I agree with your last line wholeheartedly

All this talk over the last section of threads, does it matter I heard it was a great show and would like to hear some positive feed back about the fights and fighter. Mr Greg Wotton won a world title surely that's is something better to talk about.

It seems Nathan should abandon his principles if he wishes his gym and fighters to get on in the sport..

As mentioned above, it's a close knit community so with that in mind it takes some minerals to speak out and go against the grain.

Nathan should be commended, he's defended a guy that was clearly being victimised and bullied, probably because his image didn't fit in.
If he was some squirt dressing like he was in a boy band with those daft sleeves on his arm and a Tin-Tin quiff then he'd have probably been fine to show his appreciation for the female fighters.

Unfortunately for Steve his image doesn't fit with some peoples ideas of what it should and he was singled out and labelled as creepy and other crap.

It's good to see people putting that "filled out profile" feature to good use regarding Steve, straight on checking him out and then searching for shit to throw at the fella.

And this is the same sport that attempts to fool the public that it's a friendly sport
How many gyms on here advertise themselves as friendly, non bullying clubs?

It seems Nathan and 1 or 2 others are actually the only people that practice what they preach.

Nathan mentioned a paedophile involved in this close knit sport, again Nathan was the only guy to speak out against this.
From what Nathan has shared it certainly sounds like paedophilia, its the reason teachers aren't allowed to have relationships with students or former students, to eliminate grooming

You have an adult male allowed around other children and in changing rooms when he's already involved in a shady relationship and it's kept hush, this is the same sport that promotes itself as safe, and being covered/protected by crb checks, yet many turn a blind eye to the behaviour that Nathan mentions.

These crb checks are BS as well, but the close knit community are aware of that too, there's ways around it, that's how you have so many people with criminal records involved in the sport and running gyms.

No wonder Nathan get's sickened by the sport

This whole thread has deviated away from it's original intention and that is talk about the show.

The show, As always was superb... If there was an example used to get more people interested in MT/K1 then this would have been it.

Fantastic show Kieran, Thank you for having me on to not only compete but as a fan it was brilliant to watch.

Iman Barlow- wow
Greg Wootton- superb

The talent the UK has is something to proud of, Instead of hijacking threads why not just show support and respect, That's what Muay Thai is about isn't it, Respect?

When can we get this show on dvd?

I rarely read ax but I have a few words regarding this thread
Firstly I'm sure those who attended all agree it was another very successful enfusion live event and under card of rookie fights.
fast action bouts including knockouts, and fighters showing great heart and technique from different countries .
There were so many great fights and iman really showed everyone what she is capable of with a amazing performance, returning to the ring stronger than ever from her points loss previous, the crowd showed there appreciation by standing at the end of her performance, well done iman! as you can imagine I fully support female fighters and feel during my career helped the path greatly widen for females to be excepted on big shows. I am fully happy with what I achieved over the years and where females stand alongside the male fighters to date, but there is always room for growth . You can all have a opinion on myself and what I have done but it will not change the past, but I am very happy and proud to say what I have done have inspired so many others, I receive messages daily from people across the world saying thank you, which inspires me further.

Talking of inspiration Evan jay vs oussama addi fight blew me away two youngsters who showed amazing skill and heart.

Regarding Steven chambers, he is a true fan. He likes to promote female fighters, there is nothing wrong in it, I have never recieved a message from him crossing the mark, he really helps premote the girl fighters and I would suggest if they don't want him to promote them let him know and he won't.
If you take time out to speak to him , he enjoys the sport and is very respectful.

I am unaware anyone had something bad to say to him during the show or after, I am very close to the people who sat next to him and I have only heard how he enjoyed all the fights and I know it meant a lot to him being officially invited by Enfusion to attend the show, to me this shows yet again how Enfusion has a positive personal effect on people, anyone who has worked with the production will know exactly what I mean. Everyone has a opinion and this is mine for what it is worth x

Thank you billy :-)
Is it not considered a contradiction that tino says the best fight for iman is tiffany when tiff is a 57kg fighter ,wheras i get slated for saying she should fight lucy at 57kg?-- dont get me wrong iman is the best at her chosen weight and is untouchable when on form but should any fighter not beat the best in the uk at the chosen weight first or does that not count when it comes to this forums favourites.? There are so many fighters that are getting fantastic gigs abroad despite some other poor bastard that could wipe the floor with them in their own country- reece mccallister is another prime example of someone who constantly misses out to opportunity stealing and manufacturing the "best" on here
.yes lucy got beat by tiff but surely she should be given a rematch or be beaten by someone in the uk before just being replaced? The uk mt scene should get behind every uk fighter and it shouldnt matter what gym they are from.
No Kieran i wont shut up and go away--this sport is my life same as it is yours but its writhe with corruption- you say your julies friend but why did you not put her in the uk v usa team instead of amanda last year?- thats my only beef i have with you as you were one of my idols in the sport but that team was chosen to suit your needs and not based on julies merit--when i questioned it, it was twisted that i was slagging amanda off but i just wanted to know why julie was snubbed--julie knows this but is too soft to make waves about it.
i dont care if my fighters dont get on uk shows as my own shows showcase them but it is proof above with you guys talking about arranging iman v tiff that you are willing to sweep another british fighter under the carpet to promote your chosen fighter-
once again,i agree that iman is brilliant and is more exciting than both julie and lucy in competition but both of my fighters have taken career risks ,changed weight on a regular basis to suit a challenge off an opponent- this is the sign of a great adaptable fighter- if julie fought only at her chosen weight she would have been beaten just twice in 40 world level fights- germaine who was too scared to rematch and miriam who clearly didnt win
-although she lost both fights, lucy came up 2 kg to fight annabel and 1kg for bonnie but im being brazen when i suggest iman to come up a weight,?someone who above it has been stated could beat a male at the same weight-so whats the problem?-i dont give a toss if the fight happens and i will always be a fan of iman but its the way you people say someones the best and suddenly its gospel--without proving anything-it was the same with cassie and sarah mc (both good fighters)who were both classed on here as being in julies league but fell foul to lucy who is no-where near julies league--fact is,there are so many coaches and fighters who have built themselves/shows/their friends up by using this forum in an unfair and bullyish manner, no one else is allowed to have an input even though they are willing to prove it win .

telling someone to let it be or shut up is an easy way to prove that on here people are all talk and will not go through any proper channels to prove their statements.

im not here to make enemies, those who know me know im fair and want the best for the sport .
i only originally posted because there was some disgraceful bullying going on that could have led to someone being branded something they are not--but immediately everyone used me as a scapegoat to hide the fact they were wrong and brought up on it-

fact is most of the legendary coaches and fighters on here wouldnt be where they are now if they built their way up the rankings and fought domestically more often instead of denying others a shot.nothing is ever done properly in the sport which is why it suffers.

Nathan , let me tell you about Muaythai in America and the understanding of television.

When Vinny and I were asked to put some names forward for the show - one of the matches we chose was of course Julie and Amanda. It's the fight a lot of people wanted to see including the Americans plus the fact it was on neutral ground. Brian Dobler loved the idea of this mega fight and both girls got paid handsomely. We had to also make the fight Scotland vs England to have more of an international feel for television.

Not at one point was Julie not part of a UK team. It was just a fight people wanted to see and I was hoping that after the dust settled the stupidly of all this bollocks would go away - but no you have to keep chipping away.

I actually approached Tiffany's manager about fighting Iman earlier this year but she's to heavy. Its not avoiding the fight it's about having a fair match and that's what good managers do. Julie was legendary at fighting at different weights to get the fights perhaps when Iman is older , this may happen but for the moment she has enough fights in the pipeline to keep her active.

I just want to know what is your point?

Yes Julie was a great one of the best ever and still to this day internationally recognised , I hope the same for Iman , and yes you did a great job well done , now can you please fuck off.

I only say its a good fight for iman to take because of the exposure to the american audience, why should lucy get a rematch? She lost convincingly so would there be a demand or interest in the rematch? No offence to lucy shes a great fighter but shes had her shot at tiff so let iman have hers

Iman is 20 years old and she's improving time will tell and Lucy isn't on our to do list and Lucy is a tremendous fighter too,Julie's legacy is intact as a fighter and now on Enfusion as a major part of the show.

"germaine who was too scared to rematch"

This is completely inaccurate/biased and unfounded !!!

marianne
Posted: 2013-10-18 17:52:34
Daoprasuk, there is a blast from the past!

Legends never forgotten lol

I don't see why Van Soest would want to fight lucy again she really beat her badly in one round! if you want to see that rematch why don't you put the fight on in one of your cornwall shows. a one sided fight like that would piss the premoters off paying all that money for not even one full round! lucy needs a lot more fghts before she fights her again! the girls style was very kickboxing but worked well for her, she clearly is one of the very few ladies with ko power.

Lucy is number one velly sexy lady also

Luckybags
Posted: 2013-10-14 05:02:29
It's hard enough for a promoter to put on a show and actually make a single penny from it these days without having our own theiving from us !! how the fcuk can we expect to take this sport further when we don't even support each other !!

what am I talking about ? .... Someone stole Kieran Keddles (Double K's) Gloves (a few pairs) and shorts from the changing rooms saturday night....

scumbags, absolute scumbags



any update on these Mick? did anyone return them after accidentally borrowing them or anything equally as positive?

No mate : (

Thing is mate, you are never going to get them back after there has been a statement that they have been stolen... the person may have read on here (if he/she is a member) but to return them would be saying "I stole them, but I feel guilty"

the thief has no upside in owning up if you think about it so they are long gone...

just a shame we dont support each other the way other sports do (saying that 99% of people on here/involved in the support do show great support.. attending shows etc)

small minority ruin it for the rest of us....

Unless the gloves never see the light of day again then they will be seen by someone

Did they have any markings on them?

double k shorts will be seen

Luckybags, GDR would not fight elbows or something like that?

As far as I am aware, she simply never accepted a rematch as she won the first fight so convincingly....

Just to be clear I am a massive fan of Julie as a fighter and a person, she is an amazing girl.....

I just think its unfair for Nathan to say such comments knowing/thinking that nobody from Germaine's camp would see/therefore not respond... which would lead everyone on here to believe he was right...

Simply not the case I'm afraid...

Lucky bags- actually Nathan is correct, this match was extremely close, a re-match was spoken about many times and it didn't come to light-- anyway it's old ground and we have both moved on, I believe germaine is now competing mma and I wish her all the luck, she a nice girl outside the ring.

Julie, I guess opinions vary so we are all entitled to judge a fight which is cool... but for Nathan to say she was "scared" coming off the back of a win regardless of opinion is a tad disrespectful... you dont agree ?

Germaine fights next on UFC on November 6th correct.

www.sherdog.com/pictures/gallery/fighter/f_41745/122270/

"The talent the UK has is something to proud of, Instead of hijacking threads why not just show support and respect, That's what Muay Thai is about isn't it, Respect? "

I thought it was about kicking the shit out of people......

Exactly well said wannabe