Rudy says "Baz I'm glad it's your LAST word.''

I say "Rudy hadaway and shite.''

This is getting interesting Rudy and Brian are getting serious I must admit despite myself I quite like Rudys following post

Brian you wanna flip me the bird??? well FUCK you right back little man.
You are a FAKE, and if any of you AXERS took the time to read this entire thread objectively (irrespective of wether you are female or male) paying special attention to 'Brians' remarks, you would be FORCED to come to the CONCLUSION that it is a FEMALE authoring those comments.

classic

come on brian your not going to give in are you I think at the moment Rudy is ahead on points, not for logical argument but for sheer amount of posts and he's creative, Brians not writing his own posts lol. I get my dog to write mine its more clever than me.

This is shaping up to be a real WAR come on guys break out the weapons and lets get it on.

Just out of interest Rudy do any women train at your gym? I just wonder what the situation for women fighters is like over in Australia. In the North East of England where I live its tradtionally a very un PC male dominated environment where anybody different like gay people etc are discriminated against. Funnily enough through people don't tend to be racist just sexist and homophobic. I think the main worst offenders are my fathers generation he's about 50 odd the new generations seem to be a bit more liberal but we still can drink 10 pints without needing a piss and only puffs wear coats even if its snowing. LOL

My old boxing coach used to treat the girls who came to his gym very bad. He never used to take them seriously which annoyed me cause their money is as good as anyone elses and they used to train really hard. He was a typical example of a tradtional NE hard man. Gentlemen, really old school coaching, tough as nails but not a bully. I was proud to have this man as a coach but his attritrude towards women boxing was in the stone ages. He didn't mind them training but he was totally against them fighting. Thing is these views keeps getting passed down to other generations because of imprinting if your father kept telling you he hates puffs etc etc then you are going to be quite heavily bialised towards disliking them.

My fathers only fault in my eyes is he's very homophobic, lovely bloke do anything for anything but he totally hates gay people. Now I used to think along these same lines until a few years ago I started going out with this girl who had a couple of gay friends. She delivered me a threat either talk to my friends or I'll finish you. She was really good in bed and having a face like tysons I don't get that much sex so I decided to make a effort. Went out one night with them and her on the piss and they were canny blokes. Just normal guys they were'nt totally over the top camp like graham norton and we had a top night out. Quite scary like one of them told me I had come to bed eyes aggghhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh.

Seriously through I think you should never ever judge people until you get to know them. I think a lot of people let themselves be influenced by other peoples world views. I think peoples views and beliefs change with time I'm a totally different person now than what I was like at 16. I was a totally macho bloke thought I was hard as f@ck and being a real man was about how many pints you could drink, how many girls you could chat up and gay people (apart from lesbians in porn films) were to take the piss out of.

I wouldn't say I'm particulary leftwing or PC now I'm just a normal bloke who likes girls/beer/boxing/clubbing I've got a wide range of mates some of whom are sexist etc but thats life for you everybodys entitled to their views/beliefs. My boss is a born again christian and I'm a buddhist but he doesent ram his views down my neck and vice versa.

I've got a wide range of mates from my totally right wing young tory mates I got to know through the TA to my hippy left wing mates who I know through work.

I'm surprised to see your quite older than me Rudy your posts come across as written by someone much younger. They remind me of my views when I was younger never know mate by the end of this thread we may have converted you to supporting women fighting.

I must say some of your posts have good points when your not banging on all macho about war, combat etc etc etc.

"now stay with me brother.....the rest of reason #1 goes "all the prestiege and money is focused on the chaps" which none of you can dispute, because the alternative is that institutions such as K1, Lumpinee championships, UFC, IBF,WBA,WBC etc etc have got it wrong for decades and squandered millions upon millions of dollars on the wrong gender!!!''

Your right all the money is focused on the blokes because boxing is a male dominated sport same with muay thai. Years of tradition take time to change the key to money in sport is image. You take Mike Tyson a fighter who was awesome in his prime, who is my one of my fave fighters of all time, now he's been reduced to a one punch ko merchant with no head movement etc but he can still command more PVV than a good unknown fighter who has more boxing skills than him.

Its all marketing Winky Wright could prob beat oscar de la hoya because oscar is an aging fighter but again oscar can get more ppv and money. All women fighters need is marketing you get a female fighter who comes along and can do the business and is exciting to watch you promote her and get tv coverage which is the key and thats when this sport will start to change.

Women fighters are in a minority at the moment compared to men but as more women take the sport up, the more women will start to fight and thats when women fighters will become as big as men.

One of the problems I think is that men take up the sport to prove something to themselves (I took up boxing cause I wanted to see if I had the balls to do it) where women take up the sport to get fit. Therefore more men are likely to fight cause they wanna see if they can do the business in the ring where women just want to get fit (so they can catch baz's eye in the nightclub lol).

Anyway this is far too logical and nice to be posting stuff like this on the ax.

come on brian and rudy don't give up the scrap yet!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Lets see some arguments and counterarguments!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

This most be the longest post I've ever writen I better print it out in case I need some toilet paper later. lol

Rudy, before you start I write my own posts I don't have a crew of moderators...joke Brian before you lose control as well!

I'm getting a new assitant at work today to boss around sod the asbestos I'll start her off posting my views on ax got to go anyway graft to do.