The last photo with Great punching Akebono is fake!!!

Great Kusatsu can not punch a dent in soft hat, and I can see that Akebono is bleeding:)

For some reason you like to call a lot of K-1 fake. But anyway I am sure Great could KO you with ease.

It was a joke!! See the :) sign?

You are for sure one vice man monkey, and I am sure that you are right - Great could properly KO me with ease. That will be his first KO victory ever:)

(Check the smile monkey!)

Bye the way monkey, have you ever seen the fight between Abidi Vs Bob Sapp, or Bob Vs Nakasako or Bob Sapp Vs Kimo or.... Then you will understand why I use the word "fake".

"Bye the way monkey"?

Ok. I have all those fights.

Sapp beat Abidi while he curled up into fetal position.

Sapp beat Nakasako then stomped him.

Sapp wobbled like a drunkard and then Kimo went down to a punch in the back of the head.

Is Sapp potected by K-1 to an extent? Possibly. K-1 has been on a slide to WWE for awhile. The difference is I don't call fights fixes or fake unless there is proof.

Did I forget to mention Satake Vs Glaube or Nakasako Vs Stan the man or Filho Vs Sergei Ivanovich and about 8 fights with Skelton.

Call it fake, business or what ever? I don’t know the right word in English, but I guess fake is appropriate word. Don’t take it personal monkey.

They are probably fixes but I am just more curious about your insider source you have for all these. If you ever get curious about the meanings of English words just go to www.dictionary.com and put the word in you are confused about.

But if you have an issue with it and feel that K-1 is fake (it may be 100% fake if your source confirms it) then why bother watching it? Why not watch real fights?

What about Crocop Vs Fujita, is that fake, real or a pre-arranged fight? (Don’t ask me, but there are many roomers)

Tell me why the word "fake" annoy you.

Well since you freely admit you don't know the meaning of the word, tell me why you use is so often with zero evidence backing it except hearay and an invisible K-1 insider.

Fujita Vs. Crocop was Pride not K-1. But probably arranged because Crocop has little experience in MMA and they had modified rules to accomadate Mirko as well.

I am not saying that all K-1 fights are fake, never had and never will!

What I am saying is, that from time to time there are some peculiar fights and outcome in the K-1. I guess you refer to another topic where I mention Sem Schilt and Ernesto Hoost, am I right?

I love the K-1, and has done it since 1996. I will keep watching this great game.

Again... Don’t get personal, you don’t know me or me source! Believe me, there was no bowling injury, unless you think that they play bowling on a round table in Holland? I can only laugh of you, because I know one of the men sitting at the table, and it was not the invisible man or a monkey... And they did not play bowling. So I do know the word fake, and it is the right word to use in this case.

Zero evidence, ha ha ha ha. Do you think Mike Bernado ever will admit that Van Dams hit him in the belly and not in the balls?

About my English, try to talk Danish. Try www.orbogen.com

"Again... Don’t get personal, you don’t know me or me source!"

None of this is personal. I am very honestly interested in what you also see as fake in K-1. I just want you to share more of what your invisible insider has to share.

"Believe me, there was no bowling injury, unless you think that they play bowling on a round table in Holland? I can only laugh of you, because I know one of the men sitting at the table, and it was not the invisible man or a monkey..."

Alright then who are they? And what really happened? WHo knows I amy think it's fake too but not on an in adequate one line sentence based only on your saying so.

By the way you are probably a far bigger K-1 fan then me but it hardly matters where truth is concerned. So here's your opportunity Oliver who's fake and why?

Good question, who are they? I can not tell you, and it is not they, but one person. The person has been and is still fighting in the K-1.

What happened?

I already told you. They played bowling, and one of them got a strike. You don’t have to believe me, I don’t care! The funny part is, that last year tree days before it was official announced that Sem Schilt was out because of injury, I made a topic here on Ax where I told all Ax members that Hoost very soon will get Sem's spot.

Please tell me, where would I get such information from, and how could I tell. I guess the invisible man is telling the truth.

End of story!

Doesn't explain much and no one really was asking about Hoost or Sem but rather Graham. But yeah feel free to share any time with your invisible source info.

I know nothing about Peter Graham, or his handicap on a golf lane.

monkey,

I wrote a post asking whether people thought that the Schilt and Graham pull outs due to injury, which allowed Hoost in on both occassions were a coincidence. So people were asking about Schilt as well as Graham.

Do you always have to be so patronising?

Hey AndyC, I missed your question. I am hardly being patronizing I am genuinely curious to find the truth about K-1. Aren't you?

actually monkey,

mirko and fujita never fought on a pride card.
the first match was on a k-1 card and the second on the inoki bom-ba-ye.

if you want to find irrefutable proof, you'll never find it either way. you won't find it proving takada-coleman real or fake. it usually just comes down to trust. if you see enough odd pieces, you'll begin to doubt.

one last thing about proof. how can one prove that the proof is indeed proof? futhermore, is the proof proving the proof really proof or does that require proof too?

And That is All the proof we need, Your Honour I rest My Case.

"one last thing about proof. how can one prove that the proof is indeed proof? futhermore, is the proof proving the proof really proof or does that require proof too? "

A K-1 insider to me is adequate proof.

for me it is seeing a man tear his own cut open. i don't care what he says afterward.

sonny liston never said he threw the fights but he missed on all 200 punches against clay.

Just for the record Felix. Can Great punch hard enough to make a dent in a soft-ice?

Thanks!

I didnt think u would say that about someone that was member of TEAM ANDY oliver.how come u have a problem with kusatsu

The guy is a dinossaur. Akebono is a good name for a dinossaur.

Who said I have a problem with Great!

I meant to say whats the deal i thought u would have a litlle more respect for a former member of TEAM ANDY thats all sorry about missunderstanding

Great Kusatsu has good skills and dynamic kicks, but no firearms in his hands. All I am saying is, that he isn’t no Jerome Le Banner or Mark Hunt when it comes to punch. I never mention that he can not fight, or that I don’t respect him for his time in Team Andy.

It all started with a joke. I mean... when was the last time you have seen Great punch the air out of a ballon?

Andy must be rolling over in his grave. Good point though Seido.

i once saw kenji kusatsu punch through wet toilet paper but he had a running start.

akebono knocked out both kusatsu and takeru in training last week so we now know he can handle the creme de la creme of the C- fighters.

if kenji had any respect for andy, he'd win fights.


i don't really believe that but if everyone else is going to use a logical fallacy, i want to too.

"I meant to say whats the deal i thought u would have a litlle more respect for a former member of TEAM ANDY thats all sorry about missunderstanding"

This seems to be pretty straightforward and logical to me Felix.

But using your logic your head must be a lot softer than moist toilet paper because he could KO you with the same or less ease than even Oliver. Without the running start.

Anyhow, back to the topic Akebono's entry into K-1 is historic in many ways. he is the first Yokozuna to be entering K-1. He is the first forgein born Yokozuna to begin with and he is a financially smart decision by K-1 to bring him in. The cross-appeal of a sumo champ coming into K-1 means most likely a migration of some of the sumo viewing audience in Japan as well so I would expect history making growth for K-1 perhaps comparable to Sapp popularity levels.

jesus punch paper punch baloons.look at the size of kusatsu anyway i dont want to start an argument cant be F.,;/[ at least the guy hops in the ring

Don’t be so sure Monkey, Great is not the kind of fighter who KO his opponent! I think you are underestimating his power and even more important, Felix and I.

Remember, it takes a man to make another man cry. You are using the word “ease” as much or even more than I use the word fake. Great could try to KO Felix and I by a punch, but at the end of the day he would properly end up with his fist in gypsum and plaster.









:)

Top derailing the thread Oliver.

just because oliver has an andy tattoo doesn't mean he'll withhold criticsm about every fighter andy held the pads for. that is a logical fallacy.

i think kusatsu has found his calling though. he has skills and would make a fairly decent sparring partner. may be once and a while he can step in the ring and do a three rounder. if he can't qualify for the K-1 japan [the easiest tournament outside south africa] he might want to consider losing 25kg and entering the k-1 max.




as for akebono, his popularity hits a completely different demographic than sapp. this is a good example of great marketing. k-1 won't just cut into the fight market for dec 31st, they cut into kouhaku's market share. i guess we agree on something, huh?

It should be logical fallacy... To all people and even monkeys too.

Fighters like Michael Mcdonald and Xhavit Bajrami was also members of Team Andy, to name a few bye many. But that doesn’t mean I have to throw red roses on them, every time the discussion turn into the direction of Andy Hug.

Kustatsu would destroy you as quickly as you destroy the contents of a twinkee Oliver. And whether he is Team Andy or not you are disrespectful to him for other basis than he is training someone you don't like.

Monkey, excuse me - Oliver is not a K1 fighter ! He is kyokushin man but I don't think you can exploit the thing soo much as to infer he will be able to speak only when he will knock out bulls or Sapps :)) (pretty same thing lol)

It needs only eye to see, brain to judge and hand to write. We can judge abstract number algebrics, Rembrandt painting and French cuisine and we can't express opinion about a fighter without having put him down first. That is both illogical and dis-respectful in spite of appearence - it is ok to criticise it is bad to trash-talk a man whom you KO-d, looks petty :)

And yeah, I dislike to my guts the new fashion of bringing all sorta freaks with 6 months of training, it shows as much bad taste as bringing Coca Cola instead of shampain in the midst of an extravagant french cuisine dinner - and the guy who does this is doing a stupid thing. Sorry to be so cathegoric.

Nope makes sense Alex. You expressed it well. Criticizing fighters is perfectly acceptable within the regards of logical and critical judgement. But insulting them is differnt in my opinon. For example I can say Sapp wobbled around semi-conscious and struck Kimo in the back of the head for KO after an extended break between rounds and it is 100% true too. To say Sapp punches like a big school girl is different. Well if he punches like a school girl and he can KO me that must make me less than a school girl. See the difference?

To say Oliver double stuffs twinkees in his mouth between belches of 'Osu' may be a slight embellishment.

Also you are right K-1 is becoming the new 'sports entertainment' after prowrestling.

monkey,
everyone draws their own lines. just because kusatsu can pull some guy out of a wheelchair and beat the tar out of him, doesn't mean said handicapped fan can say "that bum? i wouldn't buy a ticket to see kusatsu fight if it meant walking again. he sucks like a snakebite."

monkey, are you a fighter by any chance? it would explain a lot. fighters are the only athletes who think they can score on their own nets and not get called every dirty name in the book.

do you know what kusatsu's problem is. trust me it has nothing to do with me. he fights 3 round fights and does nothing for the first two rounds and then tries to catch up and possibly win in the third. i know it. his opponents know it. his coaches know it. who else has to know it before it sinks into his thick skull?

btw, sapp punches like a girl. it is great to be a fan.

"monkey,
everyone draws their own lines. just because kusatsu can pull some guy out of a wheelchair and beat the tar out of him, doesn't mean said handicapped fan can say "that bum? i wouldn't buy a ticket to see kusatsu fight if it meant walking again. he sucks like a snakebite.""

Has he pulled you out of a chair recently?

"monkey, are you a fighter by any chance? it would explain a lot. fighters are the only athletes who think they can score on their own nets and not get called every dirty name in the book."

Level of respect I think on should give differs from yours I suppose. Too bad the name-calling detracts entirely from whatever reality-based criticism you have. As you state that level is different from person to person I suppose. To me it does yourself a dis-service as any valid point you had to make is pretty much nullified by name-calling.

"do you know what kusatsu's problem is. trust me it has nothing to do with me."

It probably does.

"he fights 3 round fights and does nothing for the first two rounds and then tries to catch up and possibly win in the third. i know it. his opponents know it. his coaches know it. who else has to know it before it sinks into his thick skull?"

Correct me if I am wrong but isn't he done fighting?

"btw, sapp punches like a girl. it is great to be a fan."

Sapp punches like a girl if the girl were 6'4" and 375lbs. But I am becoming less and less of a fan of K-1. By the same right you have to insult fighters, I reserve the same right to insult you based on them. It's great to be less of a fan of K-1 than you.

Monkey, your problem is not the word "fake", Great Kusatsu punching softer than the skin on Nakasakos chin, or about Bob Sapp punches like a girl. It is all about you being opposite and you trying to make some noise.

But that is ok with me. Keep it up Monkey…There is nice to know and need to know topics here on Ax. I am sure that you one day in there years to come, will write a feature that we will find interested - based on your enormous knowledge and turned way of being. And when the day come, I will read your words with ease, even if they are fake.

kusatsu has fought in 2003 on an ichigeki event. i have him listed as active.

feel free to insult the quality of my work. when insults are no longer enough, go one step further and refuse to pay for it.

if i think of a sport where the fans are not critical of the players, i'll let you know. then you can say "great work" to every underacheiver and not have to worry about the typical sports fan screaming "loser" from the stands. the best part is that you won't have to turn around and reply "that highly sensitive person can disco dance your ass off so show some respect."

telling sportsfans to keep their opinions to themselves, that's an interesting little jihad you have there. so many buses and only one jacket bomb. good luck.

"feel free to insult the quality of my work. when insults are no longer enough, go one step further and refuse to pay for it."

The quality of your work? You have to be joking. This funny on multiple levels. 1)you consider it work and 2)You regard it as something anyone could take more seriously than the effort of a deluded but dedicated fan. No one cares about your polls or rankings but you. Even if I did care all that much about your rankings (I don't and have not even seen them in their entirety once) why would I ever attack them since your 'work' has nearly nothing to do with anything discussed here?

"telling sportsfans to keep their opinions to themselves, that's an interesting little jihad you have there. so many buses and only one jacket bomb. good luck."

No one is telling you to keep your opinon to yourself. But as you reserve the right to criticize, I reserve to the right to point out it's many weakness and fallacies.

Now for for Oliver who has now found his courage:

"Monkey, your problem is not the word "fake", Great Kusatsu punching softer than the skin on Nakasakos chin, or about Bob Sapp punches like a girl. It is all about you being opposite and you trying to make some noise. "

It's about me trying to get more info out of you and your secret source. Very few of us have the K-1 inside resource so if you care to share, I for one would appreciate it. I suspect your insider info much like you are 'fake'.

Suspect all you want monkey, I don’t give a shit of what you think about me or my insider information. Facts is, that I couple of times last year shared insider information about Hoost not taking part in the qualifying Grand Prix because skin disease, and I was also the first to tell that Sem was leaving his spot in the Dome to Hoost.

That is information that you do not find on Yahoo or on CNN. I might be one hell of a guesser, but at the end of the day, you and I both know that this is information that you don’t just get…So doubt all you want Monkey. One thing is for sure, I aint telling you names. A secret source is secret, and not public available.

See, that was about my insider in Europe. Do you want to hear about my connection in Japan, or is that another topic?

oh monkey monkey monkey monkey,

kusatsu gets paid to fight. i have a job that i get paid for too. i call it work.

why would I ever attack them since your 'work' has nearly nothing to do with anything discussed here?

obviously, you've drawn another line that you expect everyone to see. my job is not fighting in the ring. kusatsu's is. why do you think i have to enter the ring to earn the right to say he sucks? why would criticise my kickboxing ability? i have another job. criticise that if you can.


No one is telling you to keep your opinon to yourself. But as you reserve the right to criticize, I reserve to the right to point out it's many weakness and fallacies.

uh-huh. and your arguments there are just as weak if not more. still looking for proof?

allow me to test your hypocrisy.
1- have you ever found an actor's performance so bad you used exaggerated language to express your displeasure?
2- have you ever draw a picture of a teacher at school that was insulting?
3- have you ever had such bad service in a restaurant that you comlained to the manager?

WOW.... i can just smell the tesosterone!!! (or is that pheremones.. you guys love each other really hey??)

Love is a big word MarkC, as big as hate. No one hates or loves each other her, there is just a monkey loose, and we are trying to bring it back to the Zoo.

I do not want to hear "love" and "hate" too often in fields of expertise, although yes, there are even here lovely human characters with bad aptitudes, evil human characters with good aptitudes and any combination you can imagine between "good human"/"bad human" and "good skill/poor skill". It is rather a matter of mutual respect. A true fighter will not bend to thrash talk nor will he appreciate exaggerated fan positions. This goes nowhere. I'd rather chose to be hated and dispised and STILL do my job rather than loved and cherished and have all my longstanding principles ignored and/or mixed into a "let's be all positive and discuss win-win situations" where excellency and strategically profitable knowledge get mixed with poor human assessment of a situation and lead to petty details obstructing great achievements.

In a word - they say "devil relies on details". Let's be his advocate before defending Jesus in front of Pilate.

Oh, by the way - none of those who cherished Jesus when he entered Jerusalem, apart two wise phariseans (Nicodemus and Joseph of Arimatheea) stood for him. All the rest appreciated in very harsh terms his "poor performance" in fitting with their dreams and booed him when he was crucified. Take a memento in this and compare long range vision with seeing before one's nose and pretending expertise in detalils being appliable as such in what we all really love and hate.

Whoaa, am I wise and smart lol - and also the icon of modesty :)

Halliluja!

this is gettin better and better

"allow me to test your hypocrisy.
1- have you ever found an actor's performance so bad you used exaggerated language to express your displeasure?
2- have you ever draw a picture of a teacher at school that was insulting?
3- have you ever had such bad service in a restaurant that you comlained to the manager?"

1-No

2-No

3-yes

What's your point Felix? No one cares about your job or lack thereof. Did I pass or fail do I care?

"Suspect all you want monkey, I don’t give a shit of what you think about me or my insider information. Facts is, that I couple of times last year shared insider information about Hoost not taking part in the qualifying Grand Prix because skin disease, and I was also the first to tell that Sem was leaving his spot in the Dome to Hoost."

Glad that you don't care Oliver. Funny how your insider information was all readily accesible from known sources off the internet. Your insider information is as funny as your braying 'OSU' in homoerotic overtones. When the reality is you haven't seen your feet in years much less kick with them. You putting me in any cage is about as funny as you leeching links off Dragonhead and claiming them as your own.

mark,

yeah. we love each other. once you go monkey, you never go back!
the perposterone is in the air. the monkeys are in heat.

monkey,

you are a waiter or a hypocrite. you wouldn't actually complain about the quality of service if you haven't actually served tables. you wouldn't complain about a politician without actually running for office either. in fact you wouldn't even laugh at politcal cartoons.

you don't care? apathy? now? why don't you just say you don't give a damn about a loser like kusatsu. why do you care? why do you care about a guy who wants to hear the final bell? of all the times to be apathetic, that would be my choice.

i would not go on a message board and try to preach to "fanatics" [fans for short] about propriety and moderation. if we like a fighter we really like him and if we dislike a fighter we..... get ready for the word.....HATE him.

"boo hooo hoooo! the peanut gallery is using a strong word like hate. i must find a bunch of liberal hippies to support this worthy cause."
silly, huh?


seeing how you are an apathetic hyopcrite you may not find this very interesting but i would never harshly criticise an amateur fighter. that is a line i have voluntarily drawn. on the IKF message board there are posters who don't make the same distinction that i do. what am i going to do? try to impose my values on them? sheesh!


unicorn,
don't get me started about jesus.
when braga fought lebanner, he was wearing a t-shirt with the word jesus. the "je" was horizontal and the "sus" was vertical, giving the appearance of two words. lebanner, being french, must have laughed because "je sus" is french for "i suck". jerome proved in short time how true that statement was.

"mark,

yeah. we love each other. once you go monkey, you never go back!
the perposterone is in the air. the monkeys are in heat."

Felix, I neither hate or love you. Why would I feel one way or another? Settle down , it's not that deep.

"you are a waiter or a hypocrite. you wouldn't actually complain about the quality of service if you haven't actually served tables."

I have during my college years. And I know crap service from good service. Felix you are really reaching to here I have seen everything from school teachers to waiters referenced here and you are still clearly missing the point.
So as I understand you are alittle slow to understand let me simplify it for you: Your position: "I am a fan and therefore I can and will talk as disrespectfully about fighter as I please" My position: "Yes you are a fan and will make any points respectfully or disrespectfully as you please. I also being a poster in a free and oipen forum will criticize you for being a disrespectful moron publicly".

Clear enough yet? No one is trying to stop you from saying anything you wish. If you think you are free from me expressing myself freely. Think again. I do not care how loudly you express you're cry of fandom it does not give you any ability to censor all other opinon merely on that basis. Get used to it.

"you don't care? apathy? now?"

Apathy always actually.

" why don't you just say you don't give a damn about a loser like kusatsu. why do you care? why do you care about a guy who wants to hear the final bell? of all the times to be apathetic, that would be my choice."

I don't really regard your rankings or anything else as all that important either. But it makes an interesting debate. More so you than Oliver as you seem slightly more able to piece together 2 pieces of coherent thought into a recogonizable sentence.


"boo hooo hoooo! the peanut gallery is using a strong word like hate. i must find a bunch of liberal hippies to support this worthy cause."
silly, huh?

"seeing how you are an apathetic hyopcrite you may not find this very interesting but i would never harshly criticise an amateur fighter."

Hypocrite? Please Felix. You reserve the right to openly ciriticize and name-call everyone else but when the criticism comes back you want some sort of immunity from it. You are a huge hypocrite and a crybaby.


Add this to your apathy list: What you think of IKF and it's amatuers.

1- have you ever found an actor's performance so bad you used exaggerated language to express your displeasure?
2- have you ever draw a picture of a teacher at school that was insulting?
3- have you ever had such bad service in a restaurant that you comlained to the manager?"

1) yes, I use to say Marilyn is a ****sucking face and Madonna pisses my shit out
2) I didn't because I was bad at drawing but I am good at writing and I wrote very insulting limerick kind of poems (well, at least insulting in the limits of early teens in a country where "dick" was the deffinition of the peeing tool outside marriage) - things like "she's fat and stuffs herself into a piglet" "she rolls eyes like a girl in abstinence" (guess what kind of abstinence) etc etc
3) no, but I peed aside the toilet chair, left the used toilet paper on the floor and left the table in such a state of dirt as needed to have the lazy personnel work at least supplementary for this. Complaints can lead nowhere or even to ironic answers. Pissing on the floor is not tolerable for long time.

My position: "Yes you are a fan and will make any points respectfully or disrespectfully as you please. I also being a poster in a free and oipen forum will criticize you for being a disrespectful moron publicly".

Clear enough yet?

all except two things. how far are you willing to go? you claim apathy but you seem so passionate about kusatsu's sensitive feelings. are you going to defend this bum all over the net or just here? in your last post you called me a moron. what's next? fucktard? idiot? mama's boy? is it going to be name calling or are you going to strap on that jihad vest and find my bus?

i do find your logic a little funny. i guess where you come from you are free to murder people in the streets and the government is free to drag you to the electric chair.

Hypocrite? Please Felix. You reserve the right to openly ciriticize and name-call everyone else but when the criticism comes back you want some sort of immunity from it. You are a huge hypocrite and a crybaby.

monkey, i just don't seem to be getting through to you. you are not criticising me. you are saying that i should follow your rules for propriety but you are so angry that "do what you want and i'll get revenge if i want" makes sense to you.

the biggest flaw in your argument is that you reserve the right to name call on a message board against members but you won't do the same to a fighter. the former is justified and the latter is just short of a crime. like it or not, that is hypocracy.

again i have to ask "how far are you willing to go?" if a member says something wonderful about someone you don't really like, will you reserve the right to attack that fan too? i guess you would have to choose your words carefully because you are not allowed to say anything bad about the fighter himself.

monkey, are you going to become a troll? will you fail to recognize the rules of the board in favor of your own? will you escalate to flame war after flame war? to think it will have all started with kenji kusatsu.



unicorn,

thanks. i needed that.

"all except two things. how far are you willing to go? you claim apathy but you seem so passionate about kusatsu's sensitive feelings. are you going to defend this bum all over the net or just here? in your last post you called me a moron. what's next? fucktard? idiot? mama's boy? is it going to be name calling or are you going to strap on that jihad vest and find my bus?"

If I had Jihad against every Felix in the world I'd be pretty busy. Well buddy I was fine with it until you started throwing around insults at me. But hey, I'm a fan too, so guess I'm entitled to defend myself against the same name calling.

"monkey, i just don't seem to be getting through to you. you are not criticising me. you are saying that i should follow your rules for propriety but you are so angry that "do what you want and i'll get revenge if i want" makes sense to you. "

I don't have any rules for you to follow in the slightest. Stop being so dramatic. SInce you seem to have difficulty comprehending this let me make another example: You say Great could not punch out a balloon. Isay he could KO you with ease. He could. Simple fact. That does not equate to revenge for me. That is a statement of fact against obviously ridiculous statements. I am impressed you some how view this as 'revenge' but then again I was not surprised.

"the biggest flaw in your argument is that you reserve the right to name call on a message board against members but you won't do the same to a fighter. the former is justified and the latter is just short of a crime. like it or not, that is hypocracy."

Uhh Felix you called me names first so yeah I responded. By the way you are a hypocroite and a crybaby. You willingly dole out insults at me and cry like a kid with freshly wet pants when it comes back to you. The biggest flaw in your arguement is selective memory of what is being said in this thread.

This is hardly a flame war Felix. I haven't even started to veer off in that direction yet.

Besides as a true K-1 fan why would you not be curious about K-1 insider info? I know I am.

Monkey - as always on fine form, finding arguments where there are none, baiting people for fun and generally attempting to compensate for your own feeling's of inadequecy by generationg surious agruement and gernally acting like a dickhead.

Are you able to actually be constructive with any comment, with out somehow deriding someone in the process?

i called you names first? don't make me go through all that reading again. may be you are right. maybe i do have a short memory. the only i called you was a hypocrite. in fairness, i asked you a few questions with the warning "test of hypocrisy". i think you lied on the first two questions but i didn't call you a liar. i might have cracked a few monkey jokes. your name really isn't monkey, is it?

You say Great could not punch out a balloon. Isay he could KO you with ease. He could. Simple fact. That does not equate to revenge for me. That is a statement of fact against obviously ridiculous statements.

comparing the chin of a fan to that of a paid fighter is what i would call ridiculous. the fact that you chose my chin in particular rather than say bill clinton's or any other random non-fighter suggests a motive. why not just give a few examples of kenji's balloon busting power? why not choose relevant examples like guys he has actually fought. the man's job is not punching fans. not even tyson gets paid for that.

Uhh Felix you called me names first so yeah I responded. By the way you are a hypocroite and a crybaby. You willingly dole out insults at me and cry like a kid with freshly wet pants when it comes back to you. The biggest flaw in your arguement is selective memory of what is being said in this thread.

hehe. actually i did wet my pants. the crying has nothing to do with anything you said. i insult myself probably more than anyone else. it is all in good fun. i may be an ass but i'm not a hypocrite.


anyway, you seem to see this discussion going in circles and so do i. it's been fun. thanks. ding ding. touch gloves.

don't forget to join the grand prix pool next week.

mike angrove on my side?

BWA HA HA HA!

i must be dreaming! a couple busty horny chicks are going to ring my doorbell any minute. LOL

Angove's reading comprehension is not all that great. Maybe he isn't as curious abpout 'insider info' but I am.

My Reading Comprehension is fine, it's my spelling and typing that sucks (LOL)

Felix the Hookers are on their way (hope you don't mind Transgender Working Grils)

Monkey - it is not the questions you ask, but the way you ask them simple as that, you frame them to be antagonistic rather than provocative, to insult rather than have a bit of a laugh.

As for being curious about insider info, its not that hard to get it, more of a question of are you the type of person people inside the K-1 camp are likely to share information with.

trans-what?

i don't care where they are from. send them over!!!

"My Reading Comprehension is fine, it's my spelling and typing that sucks (LOL)"

Your reading comprehension is not all that good as you are reading in motives that don't exist. And yeah I know about the multiple screen names and laughed when it was proven wrong after the fact. I am sure you know about them too. My questions are about as open-ended as they can possibly be.

The last photo with Great punching Akebono is fake!!!

Great Kusatsu can not punch a dent in soft hat, and I can see that Akebono is bleeding:)

Then your head must be softer than a felt hat:)

It was a joke!! See the :) sign?

You are for sure one vice man monkey, and I am sure that you are right - Great could properly KO me with ease. That will be his first KO victory ever:)

(Check the smile monkey!)

Check my own smile Felix. :) see?

Bye the way monkey, have you ever seen the fight between Abidi Vs Bob Sapp, or Bob Vs Nakasako or Bob Sapp Vs Kimo or.... Then you will understand why I use the word "fake".

Check my own smile Felix. :) see?

For some reason you like to call a lot of K-1 fake. But anyway I am sure Great could KO you with ease.

They are probably fixes but I am just more curious about your insider source you have for all these. If you ever get curious about the meanings of English words just go to www.dictionary.com and put the word in you are confused about.

But if you have an issue with it and feel that K-1 is fake (it may be 100% fake if your source confirms it) then why bother watching it? Why not watch real fights?

Now you got it. Welcome to the WWE Felix.

actually monkey,

mirko and fujita never fought on a pride card.
the first match was on a k-1 card and the second on the inoki bom-ba-ye.

if you want to find irrefutable proof, you'll never find it either way. you won't find it proving takada-coleman real or fake. it usually just comes down to trust. if you see enough odd pieces, you'll begin to doubt.

one last thing about proof. how can one prove that the proof is indeed proof? futhermore, is the proof proving the proof really proof or does that require proof too?

actually monkey,

mirko and fujita never fought on a pride card.
the first match was on a k-1 card and the second on the inoki bom-ba-ye.

if you want to find irrefutable proof, you'll never find it either way. you won't find it proving takada-coleman real or fake. it usually just comes down to trust. if you see enough odd pieces, you'll begin to doubt.

one last thing about proof. how can one prove that the proof is indeed proof? futhermore, is the proof proving the proof really proof or does that require proof too?

1-No

2-No

3-yes

What's your point Felix? No one cares about your job or lack thereof. Did I pass or fail do I care?