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Sid Remmer
Posted: 2004-07-05 18:34:29
Thai girls
Sid Remmer
Posted: 2004-07-05 18:36:49
Hows the scene in Thailand now for female fighters?
Khun Kao
Posted: 2004-07-05 18:58:41
Dammit. I thought you were gonna post pics.....
Sid Remmer
Posted: 2004-07-05 18:59:41
now now
Sandy Holt
Posted: 2004-07-05 19:10:22
not Now Lol
Sandy Holt
Posted: 2004-07-05 19:15:45
Sid Your Topic is Double Barreld !
ya should have Put Fighters !
But you know why you Didnt :-p

You will get All us Sex Looking AX Hot Bloodied males come to smell the Ferimones on this Thread
Posted: 2004-07-05 19:17:31
^^^^he's a sneaky one, aint he?

thai girls: yum.
Sandy Holt
Posted: 2004-07-05 19:19:12
lol yep to "both"
Sid Remmer
Posted: 2004-07-05 19:19:50
come on guys
Sandy Holt
Posted: 2004-07-05 19:29:27
what about Girls?
Posted: 2004-07-05 19:40:32

not sure if this is a real question ?!

but look on - there is an article on there about female fighters in Thailand.

Next big womenb-fight show is the WMC/Songchai show in August : Thailand Vs the World, there will be 10 top-class fights, all women.

Sid Remmer
Posted: 2004-07-05 19:48:17
Ive seen the article and YES this is a real question. Phew!
Sandy Holt
Posted: 2004-07-05 20:32:56
u sure Sid ?
Ive / weve seen the Name of your Fight Posters ! Lol
Posted: 2004-07-05 21:45:21

Namu as she is known in Japan. This Thai girl has a good record so far (i think 14 wins and only 2 losses)
Posted: 2004-07-05 21:46:59

Namu vs Hisae Watanabe
Posted: 2004-07-05 21:56:07
seen her fight a hew times... not bad
Sandy Holt
Posted: 2004-07-05 21:57:29
Who Won ?
Both very Pretty gals too !
Posted: 2004-07-06 01:11:06
If I'm not mistaken, her stage name is Nong Tan of the Four Teen female vocalists group. She is from Lampang province, and is a very good muaythai fighter, particularly if her training and conditioning is preped well. The trouble is her singing career demands a lot from her and take away frome her fight preparation. You have to see her eyes when she is in the ring. She is stylish, and not a heavy brawler.
Brian Ritchie
Posted: 2004-07-06 01:14:40
sportmuaythai, thanks for the info!

Note to Guys, keep this thread clean. Please be respectful.
Posted: 2004-07-06 02:44:16
Oops! In my haste to post, I made a mistake. Her stage name is Kratae. She lost to the Japanese girl on the first encounter, due to very poor training (she just compltede her first recording). I don't know what the result was when she went to Japan, but subsequent fight in Thailand saw her win with ease.
Sid Remmer
Posted: 2004-07-06 05:11:00
Do the females fight under modified rules in Thailand? Ive never seen a female fight there.
Sandy Holt
Posted: 2004-07-06 07:17:08
Heard they Only Do 5 x 2 Mins too ?
is that true?
Posted: 2004-07-06 08:14:52
I think Rob would be in the best position to fill in here. I have never seen elbow in female bouts. It's probably not permitted. I think Thailand had muaythai for girls in all seriousness only after western girls started competing. On the whole, I believe Thai girls are lacking behind western girls in technique, particularly in punching, and rely too much on clinching. This is why girl muaythai has not quite caught on in Thailand. Kratae is quite different though. Yes, they do 5x2minutes bout.
Sid Remmer
Posted: 2004-07-06 10:00:04
So whats the reasoning behind them having the ladies bouts under modified rules? We dont do that here. Whos right?
Posted: 2004-07-06 10:07:47
Her real name is Namwarnnoy Sakbunmar. Yeah i think she lost to Hisae Watanabe.
Posted: 2004-07-06 10:57:40
Ive seen more than a few female fights here fought under full Thai rules! and 3 minute rounds too! though sao is probably more qualified to answr this having participated in a few!
Posted: 2004-07-06 11:48:10

This is Nong Wan singing after her bout in Lampang province.. this is a few yrs back.
Posted: 2004-07-06 11:52:32

This is Nong Wan just b4 her bout in Lampang province.. this is a few yrs back.
She used to have the biggest crush on one of my stable mates,, I used to chat on the phone with her while she was waiting for my friend to pick up the phone.... not that i was trying to steal her or anything. LOL

P.S. my friend was never interested.... We couldnt figure it out why.

Shes not a bad fighter like i said on another thread but i think a better singer.
Shaun Keddle
Posted: 2004-07-06 13:58:09
There was also talk of a 'Queens Birthday' female tournament. Any news on that?
Brian Ritchie
Posted: 2004-07-06 14:14:42
I heard about that...let me see if I can pull that up
Brian Ritchie
Posted: 2004-07-06 14:22:11
Yep...on August 12th. Songchai's Queen's Birthday Promotion.

Here is the thread I created for it.
Posted: 2004-07-06 14:32:20
yep its still going ahead and they are still after female fighters applications!
Sandy Holt
Posted: 2004-07-06 16:01:30
Pleasde can Rob? Anyone tell us ? / me Am i right in Saying they do
B Class Same as here and A Class As Done Sometimes here?
When you say Modified Muay-Thai ? Then thats the same as Here !
The Rules ive seen over here Mostly have Been Ladies DONT do Knees and Elbows to the Head and Usually 5 x 2 Mins only and I Strongly Dissagree with 5 x 2 Fow world Titles As `imo` Our U.K. Female Fighters ( and Im Sure across the World too )
Are More than Capable to do 5 x 3
The First Girl To Do this Was Karen Ousey from Devon ! She Fought for a WAKO-Pro World Title 5 x 3 Mins on My Show in Bolton about 4 Years ago ! ( I was In her Corner as im Howards Instructor who is Karens btw )
Then Jussy Lowe From our Bolton-Thai-Boxing Club Fought V the Japnese Champion and World Champ "Princess of Pain Shabata" in a World Title Fight in AMERICA on one of Dennis Warners Shows in 2001 "5x3" Mins !
Then Karen Ousey Fought for another World Title and it again was `5x3` Mins with Elbow pads and Elbows and Knees to the Head Was Allowed Pro-Am

So Whats Going on ??????????????
Whats the News in Thailand ?
Elbows ? yes ? NO ?
Knees to the Head? Yes ? No?
5 x 2 ? 5 x 3 ?
Me is Kung-Fused !
Posted: 2004-07-06 20:04:38

modified rules ?! first ive heard of it and ive been fighting here for 6 years.

for a short period about 4 years ago, the wmc banned elbows from their fights but out in the stadiums, that was never the case. and for the last while, all fights have been 5x3 minutes with elbows.

you might see occasionally see women fighting 5x 2 mins - but always with elbows. why ? dinosaur thinking from male promoters who think that women dont have the energy for 15 mins. its becoming rarer all the time and will soon be thing of the past. ( unlike in the west where 3 rounds seems to be normal for men and women - why ?! )

for the most part, i wouldnt say that the women who fight here are of any less standard than the western fighters - yes, they like to clinch but you might have noticed that thai men are kinda into the grappling as well !!

the standard is lower among women in general here than for the men, but thats only an historical issue and is something that's changing pretty rapidly.

the biggest problem with comparing western and thai women is that very few western women come over here and the Thais are reluctant to send their young figthers to europe etc for fear of what might happen to them ( dont need to spell this out i think ! )

fighters like amy birch, shana beaver, ilonka elmont and lisa haughton-smith who have mande the jounney out here will agree that there are some very scary individuals out here indeed.

women are still banned from lumpini, rajdamnern but outside bangkok there are womens fights on most shows on a weekly basis.

the queens birthday show will showcase some of the best fighters here - be interesting to see the results. the one to watch will be daoprasuk petchopas = recognised as the best in the country, not defeated for about 3 years - including many foreigners.


Posted: 2004-07-06 20:08:59

oops - all comments above relate to womens thai-boxing only.

sandy - bring some thai girls over there ! lets see what happens :)
Sandy Holt
Posted: 2004-07-06 20:13:24
Quality Post Cheers !
And Please can you tell me Where your From ?
how long you been there?
and How many Fights you had >? etc: ? Weight cat: ?

And you mean U.K. Thai Lady Fighters Not Thais ?
We Dont have Thai lady Fighters here, they are all in Thailand :-))

On a serious Note what Weight cat: is the `Queens Birtday` Fights?
is it One weight Catagory?
What Rules?
Full MT?
and How many Rounds etc: ?
Please !
Cheers SAO
Keep Posting thankyou
Posted: 2004-07-07 02:52:07

Hello !

Queens bday - as far as i know ( ie - this will for sure change many times :) the Thai team has been picked and they are being matched up to foreign fighters. The weight range is up to 57/58 kgs - i will check details and try to post the fighters names and records.

They are still seeking fighters - mail the WMC at for full details.

I'm retired now - age 'n' injuries :) too lazy to fill in a profile - Niamh, from Ireland and fought 30 ( ?) times. mostly in Thailand so im pretty definete about the 5 rounds and for sure took a few elbows.

i think that thai women fighters are underrated just cause we dont know about them. dan has been doing great work getting the japanese scene known and hopefully we can do the same with the thais as the sport grows here.

please dont judge the standard by the fights you see in patpong ! like i said in the article on dan's site, its estimated there are about 8-10,000 women fighters in this country, most of whom are in thier teens. sure, they are not up there with Khem sor pleonchit or sangchai but neither are most foreign fighters - i think we hold them to too high a standard considering how recent it is that they can fight professionally.

there is a lot of stigma attached to women in this country being fit and strong - never mind doing the toughest ring-sport in the world. they definetly dont get enough credit but that is changing.

its great to see connections between the wmc and Songchai - the wmc have been pushing womens fighting here for a long time and hopefully the 2 of them will bring the fights right up there !!

course the best way to promote this, is for promoters in europe and australia to bring thai women to fight and send western fighters over here. hint hint for all you organisers out there :)
Posted: 2004-07-07 03:47:26
I am board waiting to hear about JW fight. So I have a Thai Trainer here and he said that Thai girls name is Nam Wan Noi. Little Sweet Water.Just to let you know.
Sandy Holt
Posted: 2004-07-07 08:52:21
Sao Informative and your again Right Ref: The Girls in Our Sport Need the Lift ! this Show might just do that ! and the `8` Woman Big Event Highlander is org: in Australia !
And Big Respect to you and esp: your Fight History ! Well Done !
Did you Ever Fight in the U.K. ?
Cheers and Good Luck !
Keep the Pressure !!!!!!
The Highlander
Posted: 2004-07-07 13:46:41
My event is in "New Zealand" Not Australia.
you mad bolterian from bolton Ireland
Brian Ritchie
Posted: 2004-07-08 14:01:58
I cleaned up this thread and created another one to discuss whether or not you think women should compete in ring sports Click here for that thread.
Posted: 2004-07-08 18:21:59
Hi Niamh, sorry to hear about your retirment. I tried to e-mail you at yur old wmc address, and some lady replied, and said you were working with some magazine now, instead of wmc.

Anyway, You said there are womens fights almost weekly in Thailand.
So, I would really like to at least report the results for all of them, and cover some of the major ones in detail. but, unfortunately I can't read Thai, and I dont know where to go to get the info. the fighters never send us anythng from Thailand. :(

You are the only one who has ever furnished us info on womens from Thailand-which is much appreciated.

What, if anything, can I do to get info from thailand on womens fights???

thanks for everything,


Posted: 2004-07-08 19:54:01
I don't think the issue is that women fighters don't want to go to thailand, it's usually just a matter of $, to get there. There are still a lot of promoters who don't think women should be fighting and wont put any effort into matching girls internationally.
In Australia we tend to fight 3 x 2 mins for amateur fights, then as people get better they might fight 3 x 3, or 4 x 2. Title fights are usually 5 x 2. And the only womens fights with elbows I've heard of over here, the women have to wear elbow pads. I don't think the girls are as interested as the guys to get tough scars on their faces. Women are still expected to look pretty and feminine once they step out of the ring, so big scars from elbows can become a problem in the rest of our day to day lives.
Posted: 2004-07-25 20:49:05

hi dan !

sorry for not replying earlier - things have been a bit mad here ! will send a mail = im trying to get info for you on the women who will fight on the queens bday and will send to your site :)

im still doing stuff for the wmc - the magasine actually - thats what the women must have meant.

will get on to you later in the week

Posted: 2004-07-27 19:19:45
Posted: 2004-07-27 19:34:27
I agree woody!!!!!!!!! Lets see some more pic's guys..
Ax Team
Posted: 2004-07-27 20:35:43
Posting inappropriate pics will result in a suspended Ax account.
Posted: 2004-07-27 21:45:26
sawtanang... *my friend never seemed interested in her. we could never figure out why...*

too many hits to the head?

Posted: 2004-07-28 05:32:38
niamh or Dan,
is there any other promotion in Thailand in the first two weeks of August? We have a girl from our gym flying to Thailand and she was supposed to fight on Songchai's promotion but they said the card was full last minute. Any info could help.
Angie Parr
Sid Remmer
Posted: 2008-10-01 15:47:23
Lokk how weve all come on - in just three years!
Sid Remmer
Posted: 2008-10-01 15:48:27
Look how we've all come on - in just four years! (cant count lol)
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