Fight card.......

Tam Smith V John Dick
N.K.T Johnstone (58kg) Glasgow T.B.A

Jamie Whitelaw v Gordon Smith
Sit Ayuthaya (71.5kg) Caledonian M.T

Adam Mac v Paul Shaw
N.K.T. Johnstone (81kg) Black Devils

Scott Millar v Steven Meikle
N.K.T Bo'ness (71.5kg) Caledonian M.T

John Cullen v Gordon Ross
N.K.T Clydebank (67kg) N.K.T Denny

David Bellfield v Davy Mac
Fighting Fit Gym (63.5kg) Caledonian M.T

Dominic McPadden v Paul Wilson
N.K.T Renfrew (60kg) Carlisle Dragons

Alan Jamieson v Richard Irvine
N.K.T Johnstone (71.5kg) Sit Ayuthaya

Aaron Hain v Guy Ramsay
Fighting Fit Gym (67kg) Caledonian M.T

S.T.B.A SCOTTISH TITLE
Leslie Keltie v Hilary Mack
Phoenix Glasgow (60kg) Caledonian M.T


S.T.B.A SCOTTISH TITLE
Gary O'Brien v Jonathon Watt
N.K.T Johnstone (58kg) Black Devils

S.T.B.A SCOTTISH TITLE
Matt Duncan v Pete Chung
N.K.T Denny (63.5kg) Sortaksin

S.T.B.A SCOTTISH TITLE
Scott Robertson v Colin Carson
N.K.T Denny (75kg) N.K.T Irvine

S.T.B.A SCOTTISH TITLE
Rab Burt v Lloyd Cochran
N.K.T Denny (67kg) N.K.T Johnstone

All bouts are 5x2 min rounds.

You couldn't take it that Eileen beat you to it, could you?
So you go and make a STBA Event thread all by yourself!!??.....lol

Cheers Tommy for fixing that problem. What would we do without you....:-)

lol ;)
Damn you MTK...You know my tactics!

Good luck to all the Caledonian guys who are fighting at this show, you will do us all proud as always :
Gordon Smith, Steven Meikle, Guy Ramsay, Hilary Mack and last but not least Dave "boy" MacIntosh, go on my son, Both myself and "The Wee Man" know you can do it.

i would also like to wish all of the Caledonian fighters the best of luck, we met at the 2004 USKBA's. their great guys. Hope to see you in June...
Mark

The S.T.B.A website is back up and running..enjoy :)
www.muaythaiscotland.com

Dominic Mcpadden is from N.K.T Clydebamk and not renfrew
cheers
Craig T

N.K.T Clydebamk ....No Proplem Craig...consuder it dune. :)

Cheers Tommy

Sorry Craig, blame Blobby:-)

LOL wheres my dvd from my show? lol

lol :)

its Clydebank lol spelling error
sorry Tommy
Craig T

Yoo cant spel

Chok dee to the Caledonian crew and to Gary O'Brien!!

Good luck to each and everyone fighting.

john o'brien has asked me to post and say that if you want any tickets phone him as quick as possible as there is only about 40 left

cheers Lilp xx

predictions anyone
hers my tuppence worth lol


Tam Smith V John Dick
dick by decision

Jamie Whitelaw v Gordon Smith
close , but jamie points (gotta go by my own guy)

Adam Mac v Paul Shaw
dunno

Scott Millar v Steven Meikle
steven meikle

John Cullen v Gordon Ross
gordon ross

David Bellfield v Davy Mac
belly boy (david)

Dominic McPadden v Paul Wilson
dom by stoppage

Alan Jamieson v Richard Irvine
irvine (again 1 o mine)

Aaron Hain v Guy Ramsay
dunno , but im lookin forward to seeing guy fight

Leslie Keltie v Hilary Mack
hillary by stoppage

Gary O'Brien v Jonathon Watt
gary obrien

Matt Duncan v Pete Chung
matt , possible stoppage

Scott Robertson v Colin Carson
carson

Rab Burt v Lloyd Cochran
cant call this 1 at all

gonna be some show

stevie

Tam Smith V John Dick
duno i want tam 2 win thoe

Jamie Whitelaw v Gordon Smith
close , but jamie points (gotta go by my own guy)

Adam Mac v Paul Shaw
adam

Scott Millar v Steven Meikle
steven meikle

John Cullen v Gordon Ross
with out a doubt john cullen ben trainin with him

David Bellfield v Davy Mac
duno)

Dominic McPadden v Paul Wilson
dom by stoppage

Alan Jamieson v Richard Irvine
alan

Aaron Hain v Guy Ramsay
dunno

Leslie Keltie v Hilary Mack
hillary by stoppage

Gary O'Brien v Jonathon Watt
gary obrien

Matt Duncan v Pete Chung
matt , possible stoppage

Scott Robertson v Colin Carson
duno likeem both

Rab Burt v Lloyd Cochran
without a doubt lloyd 100 percent dead sure

:)

looking forward to being at the show its going to be great!!!

Good Luck To John Cullen and Dominic Mcpadden!!

Lilp xxx

Tam Smith V John Dick
DICK

Jamie Whitelaw v Gordon Smith
WHITELAW

Adam Mac v Dougie Clark is his actual opponent!
CLARK

Scott Millar v Steven Meikle
??

John Cullen v Gordon Ross
CULLEN

David Bellfield v Davy Mac
DAVID

Dominic McPadden v Paul Wilson
??

Alan Jamieson v Richard Irvine
??

Aaron Hain v Guy Ramsay
HAIN

Leslie Keltie v Hilary Mack
MACK

Gary O'Brien v Jonathon Watt
O'BRIEN

Matt Duncan v Pete Chung
DUNCAN

Scott Robertson v Colin Carson
ROBERTSON although he's had a long time out!

Rab Burt v Lloyd Cochran
BURT

Good luck to Scott Robertson - glad to here he's back competing again.

This show is now sold out!!

Good luck to my mates Rab and Matt duncan.

David Bellfield v Davy MacIntosh

Davy McIntosh.

Leslie Keltie v Hilary Mack

Hilary Mack


Aaron Hain v Guy Ramsay

Guy Ramsay

Jamie Whitelaw v Gordon Smith

Gordon Smith

Scott Millar v Steven Meikle

Steven Meikle

Can anyone help? Im looking for 4 tickets or as many as possible.
Couldn't get them through club.

Thanks!!

my guys are loking sharp good luck to all the fighters
go on the bankies

CRAIG T

dom n john are lookin well good theyl have a good night ;)

God luck to everyone who buys me a beer, and to John Dick.

like you would buy 1 back yoda of the deep pockets and short arms

I'll buy you a pint Yoda lol you aswell Stevie lol !!!

i think colin v scott is off :(

whys that?

cnt wait for the pete chung/ matt duncan fight gonna b a cracker.cn matt fight mark grainger at peticur bay.think matt gonna take it best of luck to both boys

pete chung has pulled out matt duncan is now fighting
john cullen from my club for a scottish title.

john v matt is going to be a war i think johns good enugh to take it easy thoe :)

Unfortunately, John Dick’s opponent has to pull out so if there’s anyone at 55kgs who wants to fight John please get in contact with me as soon as, please. I’ll even your expenses myself.

Lil Princess, you truly are a Princess. Nesbit, I've taken the money out Stacey's purse many a time to buy you a drink, ya moonshine drinking, cousin marrying hill-billy.

So what's the whole line up now as there are seemingly many pull-outs?

Thanks Yoda I'll definetly buy you a pint!!

Cheers Lilprincess xx

Amendment to the fight card. A very nice wee man is trying to sort out an opponent for young John Dick:-)

Jamie Whitelaw v Gordon Smith
Adam Mac v Dougie Clark
Scott Millar v Steven Meikle
Dominic McPadden v Paul Wilson
John Dick v TBC
Gordon Ross v Davy Mac
Alan Jamieson v Richard Irvine

S.T.B.A SCOTTISH TITLE
Leslie Keltie v Hilary Mack

S.T.B.A SCOTTISH TITLE
Gary O'Brien v Jonathon Watt

S.T.B.A SCOTTISH TITLE
Matt Duncan v John Cullen

S.T.B.A SCOTTISH TITLE
Rab Burt v Lloyd Cochran

good luck to dougie clark for the show .hes a tough guy very strong .just let the low kicks go abit .im fighting the night before at meadow bank steve walton .darlington

i was ask to fight john on sunday but doubt id make 55 for then sorry mark :(

Colin mate, it's a pity you;re refusing to let me cut one of your legs off to make the weight. lol.

lol iv not been to fights n got to aculy got 2 enjoy them in a while :)

Yoda where did you get that pic of the dog on you're profile? Thats evil looking!!!! lmao xxxxx

Theres a right good lookin judge there from England too.

My instructor Gary Douglas from the SFMA has a fighter 57kg, what age is John Dick?!

Contact Gary Douglas on his Mobile: 07749701377

good luck to every 1 on sunday :p

All the best to everyone fighting on Sunday, looking forward to it!!!

just back from the weight in's n every 1 lookd good :)

Good luck to everyone who is fighting today hope you all enjoy the day!!!

Lilprincess xxxx

Good luck to all the fighters :-)

Good luck to everyone today, especially, Hilary, Gordon, Stephen and Davy from Caledonian

will post pics soon as just in was a good show didnt turn out the way i thaught but hey thats thai boxing well done every 1 :)

Can someone post the results please? Couldn't go to the show due to work!

Results

Jamie Whitelaw v Gordon Smith (3 round tko to Smith)
Adam Mac v Dougie Clark (doctor refused to let Adam Mac fight)
Scott Millar v Stevie Meikle (3 round tko to Meikle)
Paul Wilson v Dominic McPadden (points win to McPadden)
Gordon Ross v Davy Mac (points win Ross)
Alan Jamieson v Richard Irvine (2 round ko to Jamieson)
Lesley Keltie v Hilary Mac (points win to Mack)
Gary O'Brien v Jonathon Watt (points win O'Brien)
Matt Duncan v John Cullen (3 round tko Duncan)
Rab Burt v Lloyd Cochran (points win Burt)

Thanks to everybody who helped make the show another success. A special thanks to Vinny, Leroy and Dan Green for travelling from England to offficiate at the show.

Well done to all the Caledonian fighter's, Gordon, Davy Mac, Steven and Hilary you did us all proud once again.

Great to meet Dan Green, Leroy and last but not least The Vinster piss funny mate.

And Yoda you know you're Ugly mate lmao. Sorry couldn't put what you wanted me to put.

Brian, is Yoda not one of the nicest looking guys in Muay Thai....:-)

Eileen are you not one of the blindest people in Scotland

Well Done to all the fighters everyone done extremly well. vinny i didnt know you was there and i missed a chance to meet you lol

a great day, well done to Robert Quinn John and Eileen, for puttin on a great show,

Well done everyone who took part great show.

Great show everyone, Well done!!

Well done to everyone evolved in the show. It was a great success. Some excellent fights!!! Especially enjoyed Gary's fight but all fighters were top-class. Well done Gordy!!!

A big shame John Dicks fight was cancelled he looked in great shape.

a would just like to say thanks to every body that was at the normandy last,what a crowd.lloyde is a very hard man.

Well done to everyone evolved in the show. It was a great success. Some excellent fights!!! Especially enjoyed Gary's fight but all fighters were top-class. Well done Gordy!!!

A big shame John Dicks fight was cancelled he looked in great shape.

mr burt i have to pay for my tatoo now hope yur happy :) had a bet on with wully good fight m8.

Well done to everyone connected with the show, another top drawer event. I’m not going to single anyone out for praise as all the fighters gave an excellent account of themselves and have once again done our sport proud. Briancal, thank you for your kind compliments at the show. Next time I’ll record our conversation lol.

Bad luck Colin about your tattoo :-) but as you said Lloyd and Rab put up a great fight.

they did indeed :)

nice to meet vinny at last and dan green (hes so F***in young lookin;-( )

also Craig mcMad Mchaircut Mcpressups McManky Mc Tabor. and my darlin little P

oh aye, and yoda was thier with a swarm of hotties round him cos he's so "handsome", that right mr Calder

Less of the McManky ya Hillbilly lol and keeps yer hands off ma woman!! lol

Cheers Craig

Dan greens not young lookin i am tho!!!lol.

FAO: Rab Burt (Or anyone else that shared the same dressing room as us.)

By any chance did you see a Monkong lying around as you all left the other night? We "misplaced" ours :-( If you don't know what it looks like, it's a rope styled one in Blue, Red and White.

If you found it or know anyone who has please let me know or contact the gym through mail@fightingfitgym.co.uk

Much appreciated - thanks!!

never seen it wee man, and we checked before we left , did you try callin the normandy

As I was saying, John Was in great shape. Yoda's diet plan worked a treat. (ps. Mark forced me to put this up)

As I was saying, John Was in great shape. Yoda's diet plan worked a treat. (ps. Mark forced me to put this up)

Off course Mark remembers his old sumo diet plan from back-in-his-day: 12 raw eggs, 28 Burgers, 10 pack large fries, 6 Mars bars (Deep Fried), 2 pigeons heads and 250g low-fat lard.

Still no sign of any photo's yet?

Oops, just saw the other thread.

Edlopez, you're on my list, lol.

well done Hilary from everyone at Kaewsamrit

never seen yer monkong squire al ask bobby the night fur ye

Thanks.

Yoda - 'May the 4th be with you'



Sorry, couldn't resist. I can only use that one once a year.

Jamie

Jamie and Gordon

The flyin scotsman.

Paul and Dominic

hello eileen

hello eileen
was at your show on sunday. thought you were great.

Paul and Dominic. Vinny, i was just waiting to see how long it would take for you to post that up. (The Flying Scotsman):-)

lol.

Hello Edmund, hope you enjoyed it.

Great show handsome judges.

Scott and Steven

thanks eileen. thought your fight was great! well done

Another Flying Scot........Steven Meikle

Edmund, i'm not the person you think i am cos i wasn't fighting on sunday.......sorry. The girls fighting were Hilary and Lesley.

Gordon and Davy

Gary and Jonathon (fight of the night)

Same as above

Matt and John

Lloyd and Rab.

Wullie and Rab.
More pics will be posted tomorrow.

P.S A big thanks to Wullie from DERMART.COM for his excellent pics.

Eileen, maybe he wasn't talking about a fight in the ring!?
Maybe he saw you giving Bobby a slap or two backstage.....lol
;-P

BTW Eileen do you know if anyone happened to get a photo of Dougie Clark's little guest appearnace in the ring? Cheers

Hi Graeme, You could be right, maybe he did see a little bit of backstage slapping.......lol. I didn't take any pics myself of the fights as i was busy doing other things but i'll ask around and see if anyone got any of Dougie's brief appearance. If so i'll mail them to you.

Alan and Richard

and again

Lesley and Hilary

and again

Well done Hilary and Lesley, you both put up a great fight.

yes well done lesley u done well.i realy expected more frome hillary after hearing about her win in thailand.i expected her work rate to b far more superior and ,i expected she would have worked on her guard.her guard gonna pose her loads of problems if she comes up against a good strong boxer.like ure style hillary but u realy gonna need to work on ure guard coz one of thes days u gonna come up against a good strong boxer and they gonna hurt u big time.i feel if lesley had more fire in her belly and would hve boxed u she would have easily beaten u

would also like to say congratulations to rab burt and gordon ross to spectacular fights. gordon pure class in the clinch a joy to watch ..well done mate.....and rab thailand finaly paid off lol great fight a joy to watch a star for the future

She didn't beat her though did she ????

Thats very unfair as Hilary won imo easily also,its no time to say you should have done this and that,she won a title against a strong fighter she can and will improve on it.

I heard Hilary had the cold thus short on breath alot. Is that true Brain? She looked abit tired at times but never the less Leslie had nothing that Hilary had to worry about really.

Rab Burt, and Matt Duncan did very well. I like those two fighters, especially after Matt has come back from Thailand. He has improved a hell of alot and is good to watch.

Yes Vinny it is very unfair to say the least and to be honest the whole post is very disrespectful to both girls. I want to say alot more about that post but I'm not going to.

Muaythai King : I'm not going to comment on Hilary's situation, maybe Hilary herself could answer that question. She won and thats all that matters to everyone at Caledonian.

I think youve got to keep in mind that ax is a discusion board, if we all had the same opinion it would get boring and die on its arse, as for the hillary lesley fight, i didnt watch all of it , but to me hillary took it fair and square to me she was much stronger hitting much harder and defending better, michelle does know what she is talkin about and, mabye she expected more from hillary, but the fact is hillary does have a wide guard, and going against a good boxer she will struggle. but she is a strong girl she has a cracking left hook and she moves round the ring very well. to question a fight is not disrespectfull it is only engaging debate. if you deny anyone thier opinion your on the wrong board.

Every fighter has their strong points and points which they have to work on, I agree that everyone is entitiled to their opinion and without knowing the background to a fighter it is easy to make judgements. As a close friend of Hil's I know all the challenges she was up against without even stepping inside of the ring and MuayThai King you are correct in saying she was down with the cold. I know that there are a few people who sometimes give Leslie bad press but having foughht her myself she is a strong opponent and should not be underestimated. After the win in Thailand you may have expected more but don't forget that many factors can affect a fighter's performance including jet lag and having to gain 4 kgs in 6 days (or try to anyhow). Anyone who spoke to Hil after the fight will know she is the first to admit she didn't fight to her best ability and that she has things to work on, but what makes a fighter is to fight, learn and fight again.

It to seems a blatant attack its upto Guy to sort out her faults not to be on here to be scrutinised,both did well,both deserve credit.

hillary is a smashing girl and a good fighter , all fighters have thier strengths and weaknesess, and their performances are often discused on this board, i think its more of a compliment that people are talking an interest in someone who is up and coming with a good future in the sport, and not just in the superstars. credit is due to anyone who steps through the ropes , but as many a footballer, boxer or even golfer will tell you the minute you put yourself "up thier" you will be faced with public scrutiny and while we all hope that our performers get good press we also have to accept that thier will always be commments about the negative side of a performance, youve just got to accept it as part of being in public

Yeah everyone is entitled to their opinion but I can assure you that no instructor would be happy if someone came on here and basically slaughtered their fighter. At the end of the day that post was made about that one particular fight. You can't judge a person on one fight, and I haven't denied anyone their opinion we all now know her opinion. And to say "i feel if lesley had more fire in her belly and would hve boxed u she would have easily beaten u" that to me is very disrespectful to say the least.

The first person to criticise Hil's performance was Hil. I also know Hil well enough that the harshest criticism will also come from her. Caledonian had fighters on at 22 shows last year, winning some,losing less. I have never felt the need to justify wins or excuse losses. In this case, I would like to give some feedback. Firstly, Thailand is not a magic pill, creating overnight differences, indeed much of the time is spent reworking entire techniques and footwork, over months this will certainly lead to an improvement. Over 2-3 weeks? Hil was offered a fight within days of arriving in kaewsamrit, as the trainers saw her potential. Because of this opportunity, Hil did not train after the fight to allow some injury recovery, then flew home on the monday. Jet lag and the cold worked on her system, and despite moving up a weight category,with a two week lay off managed to fight for 5 rounds against a fit and hard working Keltie. Please do not misunderstand my intent - I knew Lesley was ready and able, and had obviously trained hard for this one - I am only trying to point out that a variety of background factors affect fighters that often go unknown. This is not meant to censor criticism,indeed, we do not improve without it. Hil returned to hard training two days after the show, and is now working hard towards her american showdown in new york, 10th june.

Best wishes to Hilary for her upcoming fight in America. We all know she will give it her all. Good luck from all at the S.T.B.A.

Good luck to Hil as well. We'll take good care of her in the states! Combat at the Capitale.

go on hillary

as guy says thailand is not a magic pill .shes trained in this country for years thailands great but it comes down to hard training in this country not thailand .

Posting an objective opinion about a fighter’s performance from a club other than your own is always a difficult thing to do as it can very easily be misconstrued as taking a pot shot at the fighter. In this case I know for a fact that Michelle was definitely not. I have spoken to Michelle on numerous occasions about which fighters we enjoy watching and Hillary is always been someone who Michelle has buckets of respect for. I’m not going to enter the who should have done what, when debate as I’m friends with both Hillary and Leslie and I personally don’t feel comfortable analysing another instructors students but that’s just me.

Let`s be glad that we have strong female role models to look to and be inspired by.....[no offence guys].
Hilary is the epitome of a true martial artist..........demonstrating humility & lack of ego....a wonderful athlete for everyone @ Caley to be inspired by.
That`s not to take away from Leslie,or anyone else.Respect to all.

Well said mbfyoga, couldn't agree more. And EVERYONE at Caledonian is PROUD of Hilary and ALL our fighter's.

is it worth training in Thailand

Michelle, i refer you back to a thread stevie started last year.
you should know better tsk tsk than to be so disrespectful tut tut.
am sure you never meant it the way it came across.

wow wow wow ......every1 slow down n turn the bunny boiler off...after spking to my instructor on the fone this morning i was advised to come back and read the response to the post i had made.i will back my instructor as he has backed me by saying ax is a discussion board where discussions and debates take place.if i can not come on ax and voice my thoughts and opinions then i am not taking full advantage of ax as a whole.

secondly i quote wot mr guy ramsey and mark hendry (yoda) have said. "please do not misunderstand my intent" and "easily misconstrued"....this is exactly wot has happened here.firstly briancal i in kno way direspect any of these 2 girls, i have nothing but admaration for the pair of them .i admire the way hilary fights i love her style,the way she uses the ring and as stevie says wot a lovely right hook she has..however as i said i am entitled to my opinion and personly i think hillary has a very wide guard which is one of her weaker atributes .as a coach, fighter, and judge i kno everyone has strengths and weaknesess and hillarys wide guard is her weakness.however i am sure through time and with the help of her very well respected and top class coach mr guy ramsay i am sure hillary will improve on this and become a very good if not one of the best all round female thai fighters in scotland in that weight category....so here here mr briancal u tell me which part of hillary i disrespect ....enuff said on that point..

3rdly as for disrespecting lesley kielty braincal u have got i way way wrong and misunderstood my intent again...having fought lesley kielty i have nothing but reapect for this girl. i fought lesley early on in her fight career knowing wot she was capable of then..i'm talking nearly 3 yrs ago ...i have watched lesley grow into the fighter she is now and i kno she is stronger and more capable than she was back then.
all i was saying was if lesley had read how wide hillarys guard was she could have posed hillary with a few problems and over the 5 rounds i think she would have beaten hillary.i don't consider this as disrespect i consider this to b my opinion...and if i am not intitled to this then maggie thatcher shld have been my 2nd in command lmao.

ok getting back to vinny now ... hi there matey ....i was in no way disrespecting or blatantly attacking any of these 2 girls i'm sure if u read up the page u will now fully understand the post i made.


all thats left to say now is sorry for the disruption folks and i wish both these girls all the best for the future.
i would especially like to say good luck to hillary for her trip to america go girl go i and i am sure the rest of the thai community in scotland are 100% behind you.

Women shouldn't do muaythai anyway...

:-))))))))))))))))))))))))))

lol big man nice to see u back on here mate

What's wrong with woman doing muay thai? lol

lilp xx

big man....... "women shoudnt do muay thai??" well why are you doing it then??? lol

Am not gonna lie or put a brave face on it....that hurt Michelle. That was the thai boxing equivalent of a hard knee to the balls!

By the way, has Richard woken up yet? lol

yeah lol he fine.he 1 of the unluckiest highly talented thai boxers i ever met but he'll b back, i have faith in him.

i thought you would have been pleased for gordon ross michelle balfour, after all you are associated with nisbett who seems to have a problem with me

i forgot to say well done hil, everyone knows how good you are, i agree with michelle and stevie, you have a good right hook and a good left hook

davy mac, i can quite honestly hold my hands up and say i dont know what your talkin about.

i might also add that im not really sure who you are.

you may

i just want to fight thai, i dont want involved in any of the politics that seems to go with it, much of which stems from unnecessary comments made on ax which seems to introduce some bias and bad feelings at times.

"i just want to fight thai, i dont want involved in any of the politics that seems to go with it" good for you davy, but why come on and accuse me of having a problem with you "after all you are associated with nisbett who seems to have a problem with me". that comment was unfair and unfounded, i dont even know you, i recognise your name as one of guys students but thats it. i even looked on his site to find a photo of you to see if i recognised you but thier wasnt one.
if you are refering to the fact that my prediction was for gordon ross to beat you the you need to realise that i made several predictions on the fights as did many others and im sure that none of the other fighters took issue. i predicted that pete chung would lose and i am very friendly with both him and his coach and have had the pleasure of promoting him and i hope to do so again in the future.
if as you say you dont want involved in politics , dont sling mud,
this is a discussion board and everyone has thier right to opinions (as i have said many times)but make sure if your gonna have a pop at someone you have the facts davy. (as i have learned myself see british amatuer champs thread)

stevie

obviously everyone thought he would beat me, look at the size difference, im not taking anything away from gordon, he beat me fair and square and i was talking to him after and he s a nice guy. having said that, i have no problem at all with people giving opinions or predictions, i do think its unfair to come on ax and voice your bias as a judge, as in a previous thread 'go on the jinga ninja' when you were judging at that show. nothing personal, opinions are fine, but there s a time and a place for them if you are judging.

is that what the dig was about.lol
i have known the ginja hinja since his second fight, i like him and respect him,when that post was put up it was 3 weeks before the show i probly didnt even know i was judging, THAT FIGHT WAS LAST YEAR, if you think i have a problem with you come and tell me or your coach,
the fighters that i have gotten to know and like i will always support, but when i sit at ringside i will ALWAYS BE OBJECTIONAL. as all the judges i know aim to be.
as for bias having a judge as a friend fellow student or trainer will more often than not go against you,
other fighters who i like, are lloyd, rab burt, gordon ross, hillary, naomi, keltie. jarvie, bellyboy , stacy , john dick, gordon ross, dom mcpaden, matt duncan, mike murray, chungy, scott ness, wandsy, big kenny ho, steven miekle, jake donachie, big ally, greame ness,mark grainger , mitch,and a good few more , some of them i like as ppl some i like as fighters, all will get a fair crack of the whip when im judging as do all fighters. if you think im biased speak to your coach, but this whole accusationm is bullshit


for evidence of my alleged biased
http://message.axkickboxing.com/index.phtml?action=dispthread&topic=13567&junk=1103533339.07394

im not making an accusation, just think what it must look like from my point of view, and if you didnt know me, what position are you in to make predictions. as i said before, nothing personal

you did make an accusation you dug up this thread which hadnt been posted on for 3 days and wrote
after all you are associated with nisbett who seems to have a problem with me.

that young man is an accusation against both me and michelle.

as for your point of view , i know you have spoken to guy about this and if for 1 second he thought that any of his fighters were in danger of being cheated by a judge he wouldnt have them at ringside, so your point of view is distorted.

i am in the same position as any other person on this board to make predictions , some predictions are made knowing both fighters some by knowing more about 1 than the other, in this case it was made cos i have seen gordon fighting a few times and know him to be a good fighter, and i knew bugger all about yourself.

1 more thing

i designed the posters for both ruchill and milton.
i supplied officials for both events.
i even designed the licences that you have.
i am co-promoting caledonians next tournament.
when guy was putting the ruchill show together i offered to do anything , i even offered to be a ring runner if it would help.
i have known guy for about 5 yrs and have the utmost respect for him and his fighters. i have, and will always treat them fairly.

i do not apreciatte having my integrity questioned.
YOU ARE WRONG

if you have a problem talk to guy, more importantely LISTEN to him

I never meant for all this to become so personal. I was simply stating something I felt and I never intended it to turn into this. Perhaps I wasn't 100% on this occasion but there have been a number of incidences on ax, direct or otherwise, which appear to have been a "pop" at me and I have never felt the need to say anything until now. I'm in this sport because I enjoy it, I was simply stating my thoughts on the matter and as I said before, it wasn't necessarily meant to be personal. Also I would like to reiterate that accusations were not my intention.

Neutral Observation;

Both you guys seem really stuborn but having read all of the above, this all seems to have stemmed from a single misunderstanding on both parts.

One each.

id also like you to remember that i have also done things to help you and your club, including participating in your 50,000 kicks for charity(after doing 2 hours of hard training at my own club) and coming down to support your interclub in hamilton for charity so i too may not be as bad as you are trying to make me look.

so the end of it is:
stevie has no problem with davey;
davey has no problem with stevie.
both been a bit oversensitive to posts but over it now.
so buy each other a pint at the show and shake hands.

well i'm gonna throw my tuppance worth in here. yes davy i am associated with nisbet if thats wot u want to call him ,but actualy his name is stephen.anyway as stevie said many people made predictions about these fights .if u realy wanna know davy i said u would beat gordon if u could keep him out of the clinch.i seen u fight @ milton and thought u were a fantastic all round thai fighter.yes i am a judge and i can hold my hand to my heart and reasure u i am in no way biase.i have on many occassions had to go against my own fighters.if they are beaten they are beaten . u can ask any1 of them i am the first to go against them.on the other hand to say stevie has a problem with u,this is nonsense.stevie has the upmost respect for guy ramsay and each and every1 of his students/fighters as he does for all other clubs and there students/fighters.davy you have a chip on ure shoulder about something,wot it is i dnt kno.as stevie said if u have a problem speak to guy and i am sure he will do everything in his power to sort it out for u

my last word on the subject.
the 50,000 kicks was for children in need
the interclub was for the tsunami. both were well attended by a variety of clubs, niether was to promote me or my clubs in any way.
davy i dont thinkl your bad i think your paranoid, i know you have spoke to guy about this and maybe you should try to listen to him.

leave it

i never mentioned a thing about promoting your club, i am in no way paranoid but i am going to leave it because i cant be arsed trying to justify myself anymore.

Shoold`nt you guys be training??

LOL!!!
Well said John.
"Idle hands" and all that.

This could give Eastenders a run for it's money!!

at least i know i can entertain people when i give up thai, might be sooner than i think if i keep getting beat!

'Crests and Troughs' DavyMac, just like life.
Keep at it mate, I'm sure there's a win up ahead with your name on it.