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Kradot Dtae
Posted: 2008-08-14 06:53:22
Why Wako does make this kind of law?
Is not fair and is not good of pushing forward sport of kickboxing and muay thai. please read carefully and is not funny becasue is wrong thing to do for good sportman

IMPORTANT INFORMATION

TO ALL WAKO AFFILIATED NATIONS AND THEIR ATHLETES

PARTICIPATING IN WAKO CHAMPIONSHIPS

Requirements for participating in WAKO Championships

Since we know that various national federations notoriously allow their fighters (or they don’t pay enough

attention) to participate in various other kickboxing organizations, WAKO board, during the meeting held in

Budapest, made a unanimous decision about that issue as follows:

To compete in other international Championships besides WAKO will not be allowed and tolerated any

longer, starting from this year.

It is mandatory that from now on all fighters, coaches, officials and referees, who are WAKO members stop

competing in any other Kickboxing events and competitions organised by other organisations than WAKO.

This includes world, continental and title fights in all disciplines with all other bodies excluding WAKO. Failure

to comply with this rule will result in an automatic two years suspension from WAKO international activity,

from the date of his/her involvement with other kickboxing bodies. Failure to notify WAKO of said

involvement may result in a three years suspension for the national federation they belong to.

Kind regards

World Association of Kickboxing Organizations

WAKO Board
-Jonno-
Posted: 2008-08-14 07:00:27
... Im not sure if thats going to do them more harm than good ,
Does WAKO have affiliation with the likes of ISKA , and WKA or WMC ? ,
cause if not i dont understand why they would make a divide ,
WAKO are a top sanctioning body ,
but why prohibit fighters ?
why stop them fighting on other shows ?
surely there must be a reason
Kradot Dtae
Posted: 2008-08-14 07:04:23
is not good becasue fighter like to fight on different group such as WMC and ISKA but becasue WAKO is doing this fighter in Wako cannot.
Dean Sugden
Posted: 2008-08-14 08:22:56
Surely Not!

Cris - Please confirm mate this is NOT correct.
LETHAL-LEIF2
Posted: 2008-08-14 08:55:18
SHARON TAGGART

Dean,

Cris is away but I think you will find that it needs to be claified by Tom Hibbert WAKO GB President not Cris as he is WAKO PRO..
David Cummings
Posted: 2008-08-14 09:07:41
Who does WAKO think they are a communist regime???? This is ridiculous, if they tried to bootstrap me like that I would never fight for them again!! In fact the last time I fought for them none of the US fighters were paid the total amount due. I received way less than half of the money. Now WAKO says its not their fault but regardless I still was not paid. That is why I work with organizations that care about the fighters and not just their income. IKF has been great in that regard always looking out for the best intrest of the fighters!!!!
Amir Subasic
Posted: 2008-08-14 10:06:41
Let's just wait for an official reply instead of jumping into it straight away...I am sure someone from WAKO GB will know the answer!
: )
David Cummings
Posted: 2008-08-14 13:04:39
hope we get one soon, I know I sound hasty but u would be too if you didnt get the money u fought for!
Liverpool mark
Posted: 2008-08-14 16:11:41
If the statement above is truedoes this mean that WAKO pro &WAKO am cannot take part or afficiate on any other associations shows this will limit all of wako fighters experience. King falsony might aswell just close wako down as this will finish them off fighters and officials i would move on why be dictated to in this way what a dick
NORM
Posted: 2008-08-14 17:59:18
I was wondering about this myself - received the same message in an email from the WAKO facebook group thing a couple of days ago. Can anyone clarify?
unicorn
Posted: 2008-08-14 23:06:46
In my place the law of sport makes enforcement of such a thing illegal. The law says explicitly: "The law guarantees freedom of association of private and public persons". It is hard to argue against except for lucrative contracts which obvious would allow preemption of a person or organization, but then they have to offer compensations.
unicorn
Posted: 2008-08-15 16:00:38
They lost once ground to the Dutch and WKA by multiple mistakes. Now for the n-th time I hear the olympic donut fed to the donkeys to have them pull the charriott and this is not enough, there's an exclusivity matter. I am sorry, I worked with them some years ago and it seemed decent but since then I hear only about exorbitant franchise taxes, exclusivity and "push a bit more with us, we're becoming olympic sport". I don't think so. Their present day representative in my country has the same words in his mouth, everybody else is illegal and not recognized and he "recognises" a national championship with 15 sportsmen for all the divisions at the last term (prior to that they never made above 20), besides which none of them has seen the trace of one Euro. Don't need to say more...
theartfuldodger
Posted: 2008-08-15 16:40:37
They have just shot themselves in the foot with a 12 guage shot gun!!
Snail
Posted: 2008-08-16 00:36:46
Comes accross kinda narrow minded . Whats teh purpose of this ?
scuba steve
Posted: 2008-08-17 07:30:45
the end of wako uk. well thats one assosiation les
Snail
Posted: 2008-08-17 07:35:54
Is this true ?

Cris ?
markgibbs
Posted: 2008-08-17 10:15:34
This is from thier website under news:

Zoom


TO ALL WAKO AFFILIATED NATIONS AND THEIR ATHLETES PARTICIPATING IN WAKO CHAMPIONSHIPS



Requirements for participating in WAKO Championships



Since we know that various national federations notoriously allow their fighters (or they don’t pay enough attention) to participate in various other kickboxing organizations, WAKO board, during the meeting held in Budapest, made a unanimous decision about that issue as follows:



To compete in other international Championships besides WAKO will not be allowed and tolerated any longer, starting from this year.



It is mandatory that from now on all fighters, coaches, officials and referees, who are WAKO members stop competing in any other Kickboxing events and competitions organised by other organisations than WAKO. This includes world, continental and title fights in all disciplines with all other bodies excluding WAKO. Failure to comply with this rule will result in an automatic two years suspension from WAKO international activity, from the date of his/her involvement with other kickboxing bodies. Failure to notify WAKO of said involvement may result in a three years suspension for the national federation they belong to
markgibbs
Posted: 2008-08-17 10:18:44
Here is the link to the page:

http://www.wakoweb.com/en/NewsDetail.aspx?Ctn=82486

Dont know how they intend to apply it to full contact because none of us in the game work exclusive and we all choose to work with people, not orgs (well I do anyway). If I like you and the way you treat fighters, we will come on your show no matter initials you display.

This is from the top at WAKO and it is a disapointing statement.
Snail
Posted: 2008-08-17 10:29:15
so let me get this right , basically any promoter sanctioning with WAKO Pro can only use WAKO Pro affiliated fighters ? Good luck to all WAKO promoters your pool of fighters to pick from just packed up and fucked off !
unicorn
Posted: 2008-08-17 11:34:15
It tries to be a bit more clever, that is, they can get into WAKO anyone but they are not allowed to get out. But afteral it is not so clever at all, haha.
scuba steve
Posted: 2008-08-17 12:34:34
As I said earlier thats one less Organisation. It gives the British champs in other Organsation a little more credability.WAKO is gone
jag
Posted: 2008-08-17 12:35:41
I noticed in this months fighter magazine that WAKO have brought out there own rating. Which looked like it was only recognising fighter who have fought under there circuit.... Not true rating in my eyes
Trevor Ambrose
Posted: 2008-08-17 14:26:48
In norway the wako have tried to inforce all fighters to only fight in wako (which is the only organisation in norway). Bergen Kickboxing was given a fine of £5,000 and excluded from the norwegian federation for a 1 year! because Bård took his full contact team fighters abroad in other organisations and they even band the fighters from entering norwegian championships! That can not be good for fighters or the sport! Bård took the case up with the norwegian sport organisation by their court with a lawyer and won the case which ment the kickboxing federation had to pay back the £5,000 fine to baard trones.The kickboxing federaton made a new rule for all international activity for all norwegian fighters and clubs. "The statement from the norwegian sport organisation was, as a club you can co operate with what ever organisation you wish to, providing all members of the norwegian kickboxing federation have to report every fight they are going too, and results for keeping the fighters security if their were to of been any KO so the medical and caranteene regulations are followed. This new regulation what is now coming from the WAKO board, is going against what has already been won at court for bergen kickboxing in norway.
Dave Jackson
Posted: 2008-08-17 15:07:17
I like to work with all the association so could someone at WAKO/WAKO PRO please make sure I am on their "Banned List" as I would not want to be missed off it. ;)
Dean Sugden
Posted: 2008-08-18 03:10:26
I havent had chance to put this on since my last post.

I have a student travelling as part of the WAKO GB squad to Naples later this year. My students have also travelled Internationally this year with WFK and this week with ISKA to Chezh Republic. So I was a little concerned when I read this.

Cris rang me just before he got on a plane, but bascially said this is nothing to do with WAKO GB. WAKO Pro also sits outside of this aswell. I guess this does not help any International Axers.

From a personal point of view I dont think they could enforce it legally anyway. And if they tried it would surely be damaging to WAKO.

So anyone competing for Amatuer fighting under WAKO GB or Professional fighting for WAKO Pro Titles and fights under another Sanctioning Body can and will continue to do so without any action referred to earlier in this thread.

I guess when Cris is back from where ever he will confirm this.
LETHAL-LEIF2
Posted: 2008-08-18 03:39:12
SHARON TAGGART,

Cris is back towards the end of the week.
Amir Subasic
Posted: 2008-08-18 04:24:38
There we go...all sorted, let's just wait for the Man!
David Cummings
Posted: 2008-08-18 07:33:06
Ashame for WAKO, everytime someone tries to rule the world they go down in flames. probably the end for wako
Amir Subasic
Posted: 2008-08-22 04:42:50
So, is this now true or not - any official statement??
unicorn
Posted: 2008-08-22 07:27:21
It should not go to sterile polemics. It is not the first time when a large sanctioning body wants to force everybody to play by absurd rules. And it will be not the last. I doubt that authoritary approaches will resolve something. There is nothing to be done especially, eachone has to go by his own.
Farhad
Posted: 2008-08-22 09:15:58
Absolute disgrace! I think its disgusting that WAKO can issue a statement like that. Im sorry but i dont buy the whole thing "Oh it doesnt affect WAKO GB" i mean WTF!!! It affects WAKO worldwide but not WAKO in this country? The logic behind that assumption is flawed!
Sorry there IS no logic in that statement.

Quote from Princess Leia " The more you tighten your grip , the more star systems will slip through your fingers!"

I am now waiting for a direct confirmation from "Grand Moff Tarkin" himself :P
ActionPromo's
Posted: 2012-01-23 04:12:48
Gffgnc feer7 xd
highlander
Posted: 2012-01-23 08:44:19
Lets be fair cant remember the last wako show in.the UK and been to one in the last 8yrs never mind
Jamie Bates
Posted: 2012-01-23 14:15:30
There not the only org doing it though there's a few others,

isn't WAKO into the clicker system scoring?
ActionPromo's
Posted: 2012-01-23 16:43:43
Err i was reading this thread earlier today but don't recall writing that gibberish!!


Sounds quite strange though - WAKO HQ issue a ruling but WAKO GB don't subscribe/enforce it? Then what's the point in having a HQ and GB branch?

Blakrose
Posted: 2012-01-24 01:57:04
Shit now I am confused does that mean that wako international is different to wako gb and wako pro. If that is so that means one org three branches. All with different rules. Chris need some help with this one!
ActionPromo's
Posted: 2012-01-24 10:39:03
Seems that way. Would be good to clarify that way i will not ask any WAKO affiliated clubs if they want to put fighters on my shows. Which would be a shame as the fighters would miss out.
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Attitude
Posted: 2012-01-24 15:13:37
It would seem to me that WAKO HQ wre trying to do what many people on here suggest is needed to grow the sport of Kickboxing. That is to have ONE sanctining body to over see and manage the sport of Kickboxing. But as we know, if a promoter/coach disagrees with their sanctioning body they either ignore them and make up their own rules or go off and start their own new world body. So you have the current situation where I beleive that to unify all the titles in the UK now you would have to have some 63 fights! WAKO put this out in 2008 so would be interesting to know what is stance is now and what WAKO GB's stance is in relation to it
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