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Topic:Doolan V Rung World Title Is On! Sep14 Glasgow
guy caledonian
Posted: 2008-08-18 08:16:49
Undefeated Scottish Muay Thai champ James Doolan challenges ISKA World champion Rung in Glasgow, on September 14, in Oran Mor. There is a full supporting card including some of the best Scottish talent taking on the English.

This thread is only going to address the muay thai bouts on the card, please go off topic for all others.

James disposed of his last challenger with a devastating 2nd round k.o of alan jamieson, who has previously fought rung at the first p.o.s. show, with rung winning by a v. close points decision, this is shaking up to be a belter of a fight, and worth the ticket money on its own. The muay thai support card brings yet more quality to the event -
Tommy Young v Wayne Fisher
Jojo Calderwood v Christi Campbell
Jordan Calder v Scott Dixon
Mitchell Flett v Dave Nicol
Ryan Hurley v Conor macEwan
plus more tbc....

Thanks to paul hennessey for ISKA sanction.
liam badco
Posted: 2008-08-18 08:21:28
all the best to tommy jojo and jordan, im comin up for this to support those guys and probably have 75 beers with Rung aswell :) and thats only before the fight lol...
Posted: 2008-08-18 08:24:14
good luck jordan, tommy, jojo and james! i like rung but gonna go with doolan on this one......looking forward to it!
Posted: 2008-08-18 08:34:50
As James Doolan is a relative novice, I will go with Rung to retain his title.
I accept that James may have done very well in his sub-ten fight record, and I understand that he has dynamite in his fists, *but so long Rung is training for this, I think it will only go one way. Chokdee Rung!
(*Note the terms and conditions to this bold statement!) :)

Good luck to Tommy, Jo-jo and Jordan.
With Jordan coming off a great win at Lumpinee Stadium, I look forward to seeing this emerging star go from strength to strength.
Liam R
Posted: 2008-08-18 08:52:37
thatll be a right tear up
stevie nisbet
Posted: 2008-08-18 09:07:18
on a side note (sorry for hijacking the thread guy)Rung will be doing a couple of seminars at my gym in Hamilton the day before the fight. i will post the details when i have them finalised.
anyone looking to book a place email me at or call 07811954615

Posted: 2008-08-18 09:36:26
Looks to be a good show - Best of luck to Jordan and Rung - will hopefully be up for this one too !!
Posted: 2008-08-18 09:38:58
I agree with Noi666, this fight will go only one way.
KO win for Doolan inside three rounds.

It's bound to be a cracking fight either way.

Best of luck to Tommy, Jordan, Jojo & James
(Bit of a Caly dream team there)
Posted: 2008-08-18 10:19:24
Dougie, I'll have a tenner on Rung if you're up for it? Rung, you know how much I treasure my tenners so please train for this one mate.
Posted: 2008-08-18 10:25:49
Yoda, if you lose that's a whole week of pot noodles you won't be able to buy.
Yer on, lol.

Posted: 2008-08-18 11:20:20
And if you lose that's half your lunch money gone for the day, lol.
guy caledonian
Posted: 2008-08-18 16:48:08
I spent some time with rung before and after his fight at the leeds show, and he knows he's going to have to train for this one, he's seen doolan fight and knows that his cardio is going to have to be on the ball. We've had problems getting james matched as he's 15 and 0 in kick and thai boxing, and his other past-time that the off topic thread mentions, he's 14 and 3. Ultimately, this is a meritocracy and as undefeated (and unchallenged) national champ, he has a right to contest a world title. As a promoter I'm really excited to see the bout take place. I also appreciate the risk rung is taking in putting his title on the line, and giving james the chance to put his flag on the map.

Post script to stevie'll be picking up the hotel tab for rung then?? :-)

Tickets are on sale and going fast, any fighters wishing to obtain tix, please get in touch, or ask your coach to do so, regards, guy.

stevie nisbet
Posted: 2008-08-18 16:52:51
Hell no!!!!
Posted: 2008-08-18 17:08:35
Scott Dixon has just pulled out of the fight with Jordan, so we now need someone to fight Jordan for this show @ 56 kgs.

E-mail me ASAP if you have anyone
Posted: 2008-08-18 17:18:41
i wanna go.

best of luck to Tommy, James, Jojo and Jordan(hopefully get matched)
Liam R
Posted: 2008-08-19 04:08:27
Doolan should be in rankings surely? where will he slot in?
guy caledonian
Posted: 2008-08-19 09:32:13
yeah, he should be, part of the problem is a geographical one - if you're fighting outwith uk scene its difficult to get the u.k rankings, as most people are ' who the hell is...'. doolan is scot champ at 63.5kg,so he's no.1 in scotland, i've spoken with paul hennessey to remedy this, so hopefully we'll see james on the rankings board. this fighter has got so much to offer the thai scene, i'd hate to lose him to the dark side, but you have to go with the match ups you can get.
r.e the iska title - rung's title is at 64kg, but a gentleman's agreement has been reached, and they have agreed to fight at 62kg, nearer rung's natural fighting weight.
Liam R
Posted: 2008-08-19 09:33:44
dont let him stray to darkside 62 needs another banger in there
Posted: 2008-08-19 09:45:05
nice work guy!!
Kevin Hughes
Posted: 2008-08-19 10:17:10
What is the full line up as it stands?

Looks to be a cracking night, i'll be heading in town for this one.
guy caledonian
Posted: 2008-08-19 17:35:33
hey kev,will post full line up as it stands, with a few tbc at the end of the week, but good to see your stable mate from smtc ryan on the show...and good luck for your fight on 29th aug!
stewart buchanan
Posted: 2008-08-19 18:10:28
looking good,well done
barry denholm
Posted: 2008-08-19 18:25:05
ryan is looking sharp just now so i think his fight will be great .good luck boys
Rivals Gym
Posted: 2008-08-19 18:34:48
Good Luck James Doolan From all at Rivals
guy caledonian
Posted: 2008-08-20 07:21:44
fao barry denholm, hey barry, not sure if bobby t is away to thailand? let me know if ryan's needing tix, also will post on here weigh in times etc. cheers barry, hope you can make it.
Kevin Hughes
Posted: 2008-08-20 09:27:07
Hey Guy thanks alot, training hard for it so it should be a good test.

Ryan is really fast just now, his strength has went really high, as has his cardio so this should be a great fight for the fans.

Kevin Hughes
Posted: 2008-08-20 09:27:55
Hey Guy thanks alot, training hard for it so it should be a good test.

Ryan is really fast just now, his strength has went really high, as has his cardio so this should be a great fight for the fans.

barry denholm
Posted: 2008-08-20 11:53:24
yes he away to thialand . but i ll be through with ryan . will find out about tickets
Posted: 2008-08-23 10:27:20
good luck to my friend ryan, been training really hard and has came on tremedously!
Posted: 2008-08-24 03:02:39
thanks guy, for thinking about me.. will be a tuff fight, for my
return back in the ring, and the first time ever ive been too scotland.
looking forward to it all.
Posted: 2008-08-25 04:51:20
Yo guy i am needing 10 tickets for this show mate, get in touch thanks,
guy caledonian
Posted: 2008-08-25 17:00:33
hey christi, i'm really happy you can make it, i think this will be a great match, and one that a lot of the thai community would like to see, you and jojo have great style and a great attitude towards the sport.

alex, i'll give you a bell and sort out tix.
Posted: 2008-08-26 04:35:42
Im there with Liam and Davy to get mangled with rung and support the guy's. Good luck, tommy,jojo and jordyboy(massive gay) soz but i love rung so my money is on him. you'd better be training though rung???!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Posted: 2008-08-26 05:01:08
A few people now saying "my money is on Rung", so far only Yoda has actually stumped up some cash (albeit a poultry sum).
I'll take some more bets on this one, I could be doing with the cash.
Posted: 2008-08-26 05:50:54
Still trying to match Jordan @ 56kgs

Jordan has had 2 pro fights and will fight anyone up to the age of 17

This fight will be pro

There must be someone out there who will take this fight

e-mail me :
liam badco
Posted: 2008-08-26 06:30:23
come on must be someone flying aboput to match him with....dougie im bettin with davy mac.
Posted: 2008-08-26 06:46:55
Your money s mind harrison lol!!
Posted: 2008-08-26 06:47:38
I mean mine
liam badco
Posted: 2008-08-26 07:31:35
yeah good one thick twat lol
Kevin Hughes
Posted: 2008-08-26 09:40:55
I have never seen Doolan fight, he sounds good but i'm putting my sweet 10 on Rung.
Cut stoppage.
guy caledonian
Posted: 2008-08-26 15:41:35
Any gambling on the day in what used to be a church will result in divine intervention of a fire and brimstone nature, all sins only forgiven by paying a small premium to the promoter.
barry denholm
Posted: 2008-08-26 18:00:12
whats needfull is not was the only thing i learned at sunday school
liam badco
Posted: 2008-08-27 07:37:10
I ve heard a rumour that anyone attending from uk gets 10 free sambuca on arrival curtosy of the promoter.
liam badco
Posted: 2008-08-27 07:37:43
by that i meant anyone attending from Leeds
Posted: 2008-08-27 08:46:51
As my brothers bestman I might redirect his stag-night up to this show if theres buca's on the table!!!!!! :)
guy caledonian
Posted: 2008-08-27 09:23:23
'buca's?? buckie more likely. ask davy...
Posted: 2008-08-27 09:30:14
Lol im from the posh bit of glasgow remember guy!!
Kevin Hughes
Posted: 2008-08-27 09:33:27
Buckie on tap.... great times hahaha
guy caledonian
Posted: 2008-08-28 16:26:05
Jordan matched today, thank you to kru Gary Wright from London muay thai who is bringing up Jack Scott-Roberts, should be a good match with both lads leaving junior fighting behind and taking their place in pro fighting.

Will post final (!) line up start of next week.

Peter Finnigen(finnie)
Posted: 2008-08-30 15:13:58
good luck guy & caley crew with the show, also good luck to RUNG ,jojo &Jordan .respect finnie
Posted: 2008-09-01 14:20:39
is there any tickets left for this:)?
Kevin Hughes
Posted: 2008-09-01 14:33:22
I second that one, i need 4 tickets.

Does Ryan have any Guy? Save me a big Travel.................
Scott Allan
Posted: 2008-09-01 14:39:27
hi kevin how you go on friday
Posted: 2008-09-01 14:42:30
I need 2 btw:D
stewart buchanan
Posted: 2008-09-01 15:13:56
kev stoped the guy in the 3rd rnd scott.
Kevin Hughes
Posted: 2008-09-01 16:38:57
Getting a phone copy on my bebo if you want to see the fight lads
guy caledonian
Posted: 2008-09-02 03:27:30
hey kev and kyle, i gave barry ten tix, if you can't get them from him, let me know - better to get from him so ryan can get commission on tix! if not, or barry has run out, i'll get tix to you, post on this thread and i'll sort you out. we only have a few left, the venue has some at the bar. so let me know soon.
r.e kev's win on friday - that was a cracker, kev moves really well, and will be a force to be reckoned with in the middleweight division, barry letham is a hard mofo with good boxing and kicking skills, fight of the night for me, nice one.
Posted: 2008-09-02 04:17:08
Yo Guy i am still after some tickets for this show, see my post above, do you have 10 tickets? just give me a call on my mobile.
Posted: 2008-09-02 05:01:28
its Alex Sneddon dude
Kevin Hughes
Posted: 2008-09-02 06:57:50
Cheers Guy i'll let you know if i get them off Baz.

thanks for the kind words ref the fight, Barry can punch like a mule, glad i had my iron jaw on for that fight.
liam badco
Posted: 2008-09-02 07:34:22
really lookin forward to this..not long now.
Liam R
Posted: 2008-09-02 07:57:57
any1 betting on this? i want some money on main events
Posted: 2008-09-02 08:09:19
Step forward Robbo...

How much on who?

I'm taking bets
Liam R
Posted: 2008-09-02 08:48:47
i have active bet with Lem Harisun mail me or txt mate ill let u know who i want
liam badco
Posted: 2008-09-02 09:47:12
bets are on....
Liam R
Posted: 2008-09-02 18:19:35
doug has taken it to a new level and made our 10 bets look silly he clearly has a better bank balance than both of us put together.
shona grant
Posted: 2008-09-03 03:03:27
good luck to conor and rung
guy caledonian
Posted: 2008-09-03 16:47:55
okdokey! here's the card so far....

James Doolan v Rung ISKA World Title
Marty Nicholson (Scot) v Steve McCombe (Ireland)
Jordan Calder (Scot) v Jack Scott Roberts (England)
Jojo Calderwood (Scot) v Christi Campbell (England)
Scott Ward (Scot) v Ronan McKay (Ireland)
Michael Wiseman (Hostile Territory) v Bobby McVitie (Viper)
Tommy Young (Scot) v Wayne Fisher (England)
Ryan Hurley(SMTC) v Conor MacEwan (Sit Ayuthaya)
Adam Stevenson (Hostile Territory) v (Ireland) tbc
Allan 'No' Love (DNFT Griphouse)v John Humphries (Fife)
Dave Nichol(Caledonian Griphouse) v Mitchell Flett (Inverness)

Ref and senior ISKA official- John Blackledge (England)
Cheif judge - Craig Jose (England)
Ref - John Jamieson (Scotland)
That should deal with the pro-scotland critics...;-)

Not many tix left, if you got more than you need, please return!
liam badco
Posted: 2008-09-04 02:55:33
if i dint have money on with mac attack id take your ridiculous bets dougal!!!
stu holden
Posted: 2008-09-04 04:34:19
Guy will you keep me about 4or5 tickets please.
Liam R
Posted: 2008-09-04 05:25:58
yes vince mcmahon is reffing
Kevin Hughes
Posted: 2008-09-04 06:31:50
Line up looks great woo woo

Good luck to all the fighters especially Ryan.

Who wants me to take their sweet ass 10 of them for the main event, i'll even let you pick the fighter to win.
Sean Toomey
Posted: 2008-09-04 06:58:02
Very impressed with James Doolan, when i saw him fight in Ayr last September.
I am going with james Doolan
Posted: 2008-09-04 07:28:25
Rung just because he has cheeky face...experience may tell,Doolans a banger but i go with Rung xxx good luck to all too
guy caledonian
Posted: 2008-09-04 09:48:37
Ok, we've hit capacity, so if there's anyone who's got tickets and isn't going to get rid of them, please let me know so we can re-allocate, at the moment technically its a sell-out, the venue have a few left, i don't!
Stu, i've kept your tix, no worries.
A few people have asked to reserve seating areas... first come first serve. people left standing while reserved people swan in half way through the show is a bit music biz. Sponsors excepted, as this is one of those shows that definitely wouldn't be happening without them, thank you!
guy caledonian
Posted: 2008-09-04 10:00:41
adam stevenson's tbc opponent is declan larkin from ireland.
Posted: 2008-09-04 11:29:21
Are shoutfight covering this?
Kevin Hughes
Posted: 2008-09-04 12:31:22
Aye Vinny you need to cover this event!!!
Posted: 2008-09-04 13:37:18
liam badco

You are allowed to bet with more than one person at a time mate, it would be an honour to take your cash, lol.

guy caledonian
Posted: 2008-09-04 16:49:23
we're going to film this with local production and hopefully shoutfight will take on the footage - budget reasons as the venue is small, not enough bums in seats at the mo,this is a co-promo with the dark side, but we hope to get the shoutfight squad up for dougie macadam and tommy young's event oct 26th in glasgow. there we go, first plug dougie!
if any shoutfight staff can make it up for the crack, they'll be welcome! (vinny...)
liam badco
Posted: 2008-09-05 03:07:33
Knob off douglet ive got too much cash riding on this show already
guy caledonian
Posted: 2008-09-07 12:00:40
Article with Rung on ISKA Uk site, out on 9th september, talking about forthcoming fight, also Evening Times (Big Scottish paper) ran article on fight, but now my money is on Doolan by sub, as the journalist has mixed up the rules between thai and the dark's in the papers, it must be true...
caitlin faulds phoenix
Posted: 2008-09-07 14:11:47
can't wait for this show it looks brilliant!:-D good luck to Rung, Jordan Calder, Jojo Calderwood and Conor McEwan. Can't wait to see the Jojo Calderwood and Christi Campbell fight.
Posted: 2008-09-09 10:44:09
Really looking forward to this now ☺
guy caledonian
Posted: 2008-09-10 03:48:16
There are no tix left. at all. unless we get some returns on sat at weigh-in, or sunday a.m, they are all gone. which is great....good for us, good for the sport, we could have possibly gone to a 1,000+capacity for this card...onwards and upwards for sportfight scotland. It's created a great buzz locally, celebs and journalists showing a healthy interest too. Now if only my phone would stop ringing and i could stop shi**ing myself.

A huge thank you to Pete Feeley and his Spartans for filling the gap as Wayne from Carlisle had to pull out with injury. Dan Hadfield will now be fighting Tommy Young which will be a cracking match - both lads are strong and technically great. The majority of Dan's fights have been in Thailand (I think).
Thanks Pete, safe journey to Glasgow.
stu holden
Posted: 2008-09-10 07:01:34
Nice 1 Pete will see you up there mate. Wayne has got an injury to his right shoulder which i,m sure happened in his fight with Danny. All the best of look to both boys and i hope to get Wayne matched with Tommy later in the year.
See you at the weekend Guy and try relax:-)
guy caledonian
Posted: 2008-09-10 09:18:56
As a promoter and coach it's difficult to maintain a diplomatic balance, particularly when you train with the guys that are fighting on the same event. I've deleted this post three times already, that little voice in my head telling me to let it go, don't rise to the bait, the other louder voice telling me to go for it...i'm going to make an assumption about the last post- that'll be the doolan rung fight you are talking about? If it was a mixed m.a v thai boxing, then the rules would be somewhere in between. They're not. It's a muay thai match. Between two muay thai champions. Scored under muay thai criteria. Novice aggression?? what the f..k are you on about? hoho that must be rung you're on about? because doolan is one of the most composed, technically precise strikers, in all ranges, that i have had the pleasure to get a kicking off. rant over. actually, there's more, doolan has been in rings and cages 32 times, aggressive? yes, but then that's fighting for you.novice? get the f..k out of here. if i have assumed wrong, please forgive me, i'm a little stressed.
guy caledonian
Posted: 2008-09-10 15:57:02
urg! now my post looks like the rantings of a madman - the previous post that gave me the rage has been deleted. the above post was directed purely at them, no-one else, either on the show, or uninvolved. I got a few txt msgs gently warning me off as the post was made by a troll.grrr. I fell for it. So...back to the plot!...this show is going to be rocking, i'm getting a few returns this week, so if you are needing tix, let me know, we may have 5-10 coming back.
Posted: 2008-09-10 16:48:22
wow the constantly calm guy ramsey is actually human ha ha. Nice one mate i was beginning to wonder. Hopefully all your stress will be well worth it come a great show and a nice pint or two sunday night. See you sun bud!!
guy caledonian
Posted: 2008-09-11 13:20:38
Thanks craig, will be good to catch up.

Weigh-ins for saturday - 2pm at the griphouse, 10am sunday at venue for on the day weigh-ins.
Medicals, buffet, rules check 10-11am sunday at venue.
Doors 12pm
1st fight 1pm

Officials -
Ref- John Blackledge (England)
Cheif Judge - Craig Jose (England)
Judges - Rab Izat, Les Walden
Timekeeping - James MacIntyre
MC - Kim Hamilton

Thank you to our sponsors-
James John Welsh
Musclebound, Paisley
Food Partners, Glasgow
King Fight Gear
C2 Design
Torra Scotia Sports, Bathgate
Posted: 2008-09-11 13:38:58
We are not there too but i need to see my kids,i miss them....but my others kids are there Andy and don,t its only right have a top show good luck to all,ps Andy ring me bladdered tell me the antics x
stewart buchanan
Posted: 2008-09-11 15:16:21
good luck to all,can any1 give me a postcode so i can get right to the venue? cheers.rung vs doolan i dont think this fight will go the distance,rung via cut,or doolan seading rung to sleep,50/50 cant pick,show will be brill regardless.
James McIntyre
Posted: 2008-09-11 15:46:53
Really looking forward to this show, despite Guy spelling my name wrong ;-P

Best of luck to Tommy, Jordan, James and JoJo.
Posted: 2008-09-11 16:38:27
Hi guy looking forward to the show,good luck to everyone.Oh my dads names Jim Walton.
Sid Remmer
Posted: 2008-09-11 20:14:31

Christi is ready

Posted: 2008-09-12 03:20:36
Venue Details

Postcode G12 8QX

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pete feeley
Posted: 2008-09-12 03:32:35
hey nearly fight time

hi stu will se you there mate thanks for putting dans name forward am sure it will be a great fight.

guy thanks for puting us on and chill it will go well for you good luck to all
see you soon

pete spartan
Posted: 2008-09-12 05:18:24
So is JoJo, Sid trust me, funny picture above but that ain't gonna happen on Sunday.
Posted: 2008-09-12 05:34:48
Posted: 2008-09-12 05:38:41
Plus we live in Glasgow lad we see images like that at 6 in the morning going for the papers LMAO
stewart buchanan
Posted: 2008-09-12 06:26:44
cheers duncan for the post code,jo jo vs christi going to be a war,good macth making.
guy caledonian
Posted: 2008-09-12 14:45:59
bring extra cash... raffle for the d-units chosen charity, disabled girl, close to the fight team...fairtex, twins, fight gear and merchandise for prizes...

also, bobby quinn is running an equipment stall, featuring the usual brands, with some cracking new stock from King and Boon.

Safe journey to all our fighters travelling tomorrow.
Peter Finnigen(finnie)
Posted: 2008-09-12 18:11:35
YES Brian jojo to win & jordan, think rung will also be there all the best to guy & caley crew respect Finnie
Jordan Calder
Posted: 2008-09-13 08:20:17
I think jo to win dolan to win and tommy win dont no about the others see you all tomorrow
Kevin Hughes
Posted: 2008-09-13 11:29:18
All the best to alll the fighters espacially Ryan Hurley looking really fast and fit for a battle.

Who's round is it?
guy caledonian
Posted: 2008-09-13 15:16:12
Thanks everyone for making weight, on time, and with no fuss. The Irish are here, the English are here (good representation - the west country, the south, and the north)
Rung 61.5 Doolan 61.7kg
Dan 64.1 Tommy 63.8kg
Christi and Jo 53kg
2 fights to weigh in on day.
Hope to post some photos later...
Posted: 2008-09-13 17:01:00
Good luck to one and all!!
Posted: 2008-09-13 17:36:21
Good luck to all the Dinky's o this show and good luck to Dave, Tommy, James Doolan (to win by KO) and JoJo kick ass guys you will do us all proud as always.

And good luck to my son Jordan, do your stuff wee man, so proud of you xxx.
Posted: 2008-09-14 10:38:00
Well done and congrats to Rung.
Victorious in round 2 by TKO.
Heavy knees and then cut him apparently.
Bring on Oct 5th.

Heard Jordan Calder took a narrow points victory too.
Well done wee-man.
Posted: 2008-09-14 10:45:55
Well done Rung, thanks for keeping my tenner safe mate.
Posted: 2008-09-14 11:01:12
resuly jojo v christi anyone
Posted: 2008-09-14 11:01:33
result even
Posted: 2008-09-14 11:15:04
Jojo won on points
Posted: 2008-09-14 11:15:07
jo jo won
liam badco
Posted: 2008-09-14 11:27:25
Rung was on fire....won me some money too..hes gettin better as he gets older :)
Posted: 2008-09-14 11:43:09
Oh Brian Brian Brian.....i hate to say i told you so.....but,lol. Good little show, fight of the night was jojo vs christi, christi never stops she's outragously fit. was a close fight in my oppinion if you took away that alot of the sweeps and trips from the clinch where fouls, hooking leg around. a great performance though, she is defo 1 of the best girls at that weight and proved it today. Rungs the man, not to take anything away from doolan but you could see the big difference in class from the start, and the cut was hideous, even worse than the 1 he gave cadden at town hall.
stevie nisbet
Posted: 2008-09-14 12:01:27
thanks to Ryan Hurley for his fight with young conor, it was aparently a great bout (i missed it by 5 mins)and neck and neck up until the fifth round. many thanks to Wee Paul and Rung for helping jamie with the corner.
well done to Rung on another outstanding performance , he came through without a scratch and wil be fighting at the crawley show on the 5th october.

Posted: 2008-09-14 12:06:03
Rung is awesome i knew he,d win experience tells all,fair play to James,well done all x
stewart buchanan
Posted: 2008-09-14 12:07:40
rung is the man,think story will have his hands full oct.
paulo da silva
Posted: 2008-09-14 12:23:11
John Says well done Rung, Jordan and Jo Jo!!

What a fight Rung v Storey will be...
Only 3 weeks
Posted: 2008-09-14 13:13:34
well done Rung and Jordan
Kevin Hughes
Posted: 2008-09-14 13:26:24
Congratulations on a fantastic show, match making was great, not one Thai fight was a bad match up.

Tommy Young fight was a peach, very very close.

Rung was on fire right from the bell................ i'm skint! ! ! ! !!
Posted: 2008-09-14 13:30:59
result of Tommys fight?
Posted: 2008-09-14 13:32:48
o ya congrats Jordan and JoJo! sounds like a great show, well done to Guy as well!
caitlin faulds phoenix
Posted: 2008-09-14 13:39:41
it was a great show today. well done to jordan, jojo, rung and connor and everyone else that was fighting today, all the fights were good.
Posted: 2008-09-14 14:02:17
well done guy good show m8
Posted: 2008-09-14 14:48:26
Posted: 2008-09-14 15:11:32
Thanks Guy and Gill for having us there. Cracking show with some great fights, beautiful venue also. Have to agree with Andy, Christi and JoJo's bout had to be fight of the night. It was awesome, well done gals. Well done also to Adam "Silky" Stevenson, that flying punch was ace.

p.s Nice meeting Gills mum.
caitlin faulds phoenix
Posted: 2008-09-14 15:17:12
p.s thanks very much to Guy for giving me the chance to shadow judge, it was a great experience to see how fights are scored.
Posted: 2008-09-14 15:17:42
Thanks Guy and Gill for having us there. Cracking show with some great fights, beautiful venue also. Have to agree with Andy, Christi and JoJo's bout had to be fight of the night. It was awesome, well done gals. Well done also to Adam "Silky" Stevenson, that flying punch was ace.

p.s Nice meeting Gills mum.
Posted: 2008-09-14 15:35:07
Thanks Guy and Gill for having us there. Cracking show with some great fights, beautiful venue also. Have to agree with Andy, Christi and JoJo's bout had to be fight of the night. It was awesome, well done gals. Well done also to Adam "Silky" Stevenson, that flying punch was ace.

p.s Nice meeting Gills mum.
Posted: 2008-09-14 15:38:03
Doh, sorry folks.
stevie nisbet
Posted: 2008-09-14 16:10:42

Peter Finnigen(finnie)
Posted: 2008-09-14 16:26:48
WELL DONE GUY , nice one rung, jojo, and jordan Respect Finnie
Posted: 2008-09-14 17:04:32
well done guy n every1 involved on a crackin show. fight of the day 4 me was the jojo n christi fight, also tommy youngs was a bit of a belter! well done to rung, was on top form cant wait to see ye fight in crawley in a few weeks!

hard lines to dougie tho:( 90 quid your down man!

Posted: 2008-09-14 17:06:58
The pot noodles are on yoda for the next 2 weeks
Posted: 2008-09-14 17:18:01

Thanks to Dougie this bad boy is on it's way. ;-)
Posted: 2008-09-14 20:33:42
just arrived home , plane was late. Just a quicky .
thankyou guy,hilary for looking after us, great to see brian, jordan and
jo jo again. thoroughly enjoyed glasgow. Great to be back in the ring too.
A lot of ring rust there, and what a tuff fight to come back too.
enjoyed every moment of it. well done jo jo. hope to see you all again in
the future.
( now i sleep )
Posted: 2008-09-15 02:06:38
Class photo Rung....
Ya big old playa, you! :)
Neil Spartan
Posted: 2008-09-15 02:41:45
What was the result of the Danny Hadfield vs Tommy Young fight plese?
Posted: 2008-09-15 03:02:41
Tommy Young won. Was a tremendous match up with a lot of respect between two ludicrously fast fighters. A joy to watch such a technical thai bout.
Posted: 2008-09-15 03:16:38
I've put the results up on the Caledonian Muay Thai website - they're from memory and a string of texts I was sending a mate who missed out on tickets. Please let me know if I've missed anything.
Jordan Calder
Posted: 2008-09-15 05:24:49
Well done to Tommy, JoJo and unlucky to James was a good show niver got to see most of the fights but hopefully will get to see them if ther is a dvd
Sid Remmer
Posted: 2008-09-15 06:19:35
Jojo is a great fighter and took the a split decision on the night. Fair enough. For what its worth, I felt Christi edged it, being the stronger fighter in rounds 3,4 and 5. Jojo definitely faded as the fight went on. Hey ho, thats just my opinion and its what close fights are made from!
However, for us the fight was ruined by the ref allowing illegal heel hook trips. It wasn't the occasional one, it was constant throughout the fight - four or five of them in every round. From memory, only one of the heel hooks actually struck Christies standing leg away, the rest were trips. I have no idea if the judges gave Jojo credit for the trips but regardless, it made a huge difference in the grapple where Christi's strength and especially knees to the head were spoiled every time. Add to that, the confidence Jojo must have felt with her corner and the audience roaring their approval. If the ref had have warned Jojo not to trip, the fight may not even have gone the distance. We will never know.

For my part, I complained (shouted!) to the ref throughout the fight., and in in between rounds I assured Christi that the trips were illegal and not to be disheartened by them. Afterwards, I asked the ref if he felt the trips legal? The conversation went: word for word
me "Were those heel trips legal?"
ref "You are not allowed to do judo style hip throws"
me "Yes, ok, but what about those heel trips?"
ref "You are not allowed to intentionally land on your opponent"
me "Ok?"
short silence
me " So were those heel trips legal?"
The ref smiles and shrugs and I take it that the question has been answered.

Please don't get me wrong, I'm not contesting the result - it was a close fight and Christi enjoyed it. And I'm not having a go at Jojo, I'm certain she would have stopped tripping if the ref had told her. My complaint is to the application of the rules (or possibly my understanding of them?). I like the ref, its not a personal thing, and he has a huge amount of experience but someone was wrong. I will be writing an official letter of complaint to the sanctioning body and will be asking for a breakdown from the chief judge. This will be done in private with the sole aim of helping me to be the best coach I can. After all, if the sanctioning body says they are legal, Ive got to start training them too!

Thanks to Guy and his team (esp Hillary for ferrying us round), your hospitality was relaxed and impeccable. It was a great show. We would love to be invited back :-)

Rungs elbows were awesome. The stuff of nightmares!

Whens the DVD out?
liam badco
Posted: 2008-09-15 06:25:51
Tommy youngs technique is text book, very nice to watch, also as was his oppoenent danny from spartan!!! was a great match up and close fight they were like watching clones of each other!
Jo and christi was one of best female fights ive seen, fitness, desire to win, technique was all amazing!
Jordan Calder and his opponent was also a close fight Jordan gave him too much time and space and nearly payed for it in the 2nd round when he got caught with an amazing jumping knee, the other boy was very tough but jordan could have made the fight much easier as he scored very well when he wanted with the big kicks....sort it out fagman lol...hope you were careful washing your face and dint nearly spark yourself ha ha..
Thanks to guy for having us there always a pleasure to see the caledonian guys who seem to be gettin better all the time...was very dissapointed brian dint where his coat tho :(
chris podesta
Posted: 2008-09-15 07:34:07
Posted: 2008-09-15 07:57:52

I think Brians coat was more of a brown colour but I think you can see they style. meant of the fights..... sorry!
liam badco
Posted: 2008-09-15 08:12:38
rofl beag
chris podesta
Posted: 2008-09-15 08:15:31
fights would be nice, but cheered my day up
Posted: 2008-09-15 08:38:36
Well done Guy and the Caley crew

Danny Hadfield's dad was one of the first UK fighters to fight in Thailand, very very long time ago. I know from speaking to Pete after he (Danny) fought on one of my shows that there was a bit of a contrast in style between what his dad wanted him to do and what Pete wanted him to do. Seams to have sorted itself out.

Yet more confusion on legal and illegal techniques, this needs sorting!!!!! See the scoring criteria thread
guy caledonian
Posted: 2008-09-15 09:09:14
i'll post fully later, but absolutely understand the concern for reffing / judging needs to be brought into a consistent line..i only spoke with the head judge, and he discounted any of the 'trips' in scoring, but i think some judges may look to the ref for pointing these out and/ or warning fighter before the judges make record. yeah, we should all check the muay thai scoring criteria thread and sort it out..i'll try not to get moderated by swearing at the sexist drivel that appeared in that thread this time! i was rendered inarticulate by the bigoted postulations of two axers who ought to know better...anyway, post later once i know everybody is back home safe, and all my people are good. cheers.
Liam R
Posted: 2008-09-15 09:50:20
guy if you had ignored NMTs post and read the later post on judging etc you would have seen it said decent females the same as decent kids for 5x2 min rounds decent as in technique and ability not looking. Anyhow who was refereeing and judging this as i didnt get a chance to see it but heard a fair few reports, when is dvd available? thanks.
Posted: 2008-09-15 10:18:31
Kru Gary and Jack would just like to thank Guy and Jordan for a good show. They would also like to express their gratitude for accommodating them over the weekend!
James McIntyre
Posted: 2008-09-15 10:39:31
Results & Times for all fights

Bout 1
Mitchell Flett (Rung Muay Thai Inverness) V Dave Nicol (Caledonian) 5*1.5 MT
Dave Nicol wins by unanimous decision

Bout 2
Conor McEwan (Sit Ayuthaya) V Ryan Hurley (SMTC) 5*2 MT
Conor McEwan wins by majority decision

Bout 3
Declan Larkin (EFR Ireland) V Adam Stevenson (Hostile Territory Alloa) 2*5 SP MMA
Adam Stevenson wins by KO (Superman punch) after 3:49 of rd 1

Bout 4
John Humphries (Team Unity, Fife) V Alan "No" Love (Griphouse) 2*5 SP MMA
Alan "No" Love wins via armbar after 1:07 of Rd 1

Bout 5
Dan Hadfield (Spartans) V Tommy Young (Caledonian) 5*2 MT
Tommy Young wins by split decision

Bout 6
Jack Scott-Roberts (London) V Jordan Calder (Caledonian) 5*2 MT
Jordan Calder wins by Majority decision

Bout 7
Bobby McVittie (Team Viper, Port Glasgow) V Mick Wiseman (Hostile Territory Alloa) 2*5 SP MMA
Bobby McVittie wins via triangle choke after 2:22 of round 2

Bout 8
Ronan McKay (EFR Ireland) V Scott Ward (D-Unit DNFT Dumbarton) 2 * 5 B Class Pro MMA
Ronan McKay wins via kimura after 4:25 of round 1

Bout 9
Christi Campbell (Saints) V JoJo Calderwood(Caledonian) 5*2 MT
JoJo Calderwood wins via majority decision

Bout 10
Steven "Taz" McCombe (EFR Ireland) V Martin Nicolson (D-Unit DNFT Dumbarton) 3 * 5 Pro MMA
Steven "Taz" McCombe wins via guillotine choke after 0:35 of round 1

Bout 11 For the ISKA World Title
Champion Rung (Thailand) V Challenger James Doolan (DNFT Lanark)
Rung wins via cut stoppage 2:25 of round 2
Posted: 2008-09-15 14:01:09
just to add my ten pence worth, was a great show really enjoyed all the fights and love going up to glasgow for Guy's shows, thanks for asking me bud! Myself and Guy discussed the scoring at lenght throughout the event after i thought some of the decisions went the wrong way or were slightly off. All the heel hook trips were discounted by myself and i actually punished jojo for repeatedly executing them in the either round 4 or 5 (cant remeber now)and gave it a 10/9 the other way. Both girls fought really well and it was nonstop, I scored this a draw! I know there are discrepencies when judging but i think 50/46 to jojo was ridiculous, im not mentioning names but i cant see how that came up from the fight I watched. Tommy and Dan's fight was brilliant and technically the best of the night for me, well done to both. Also brilliant shot by rung to finish it in the 2nd. Jordan never looked to be struggling (bar the knee to the head) oops! but didnt seem his normal self to me, well done to Jack Roberts on a good peformance. well done to all great day.
James McIntyre
Posted: 2008-09-15 14:20:06
The post above is rather interesting, are thai judges allowed to penalise fighters for what they perceive as fouls even if the ref lets it go?

Not asking for malicious means, just curious about thai scoring which still confuses the hell out me!
Posted: 2008-09-15 15:29:28
If I judge, and someone persistantly fouls, I will penalise a fighter even if the ref lets it go. Its part of the basic scoring.
Either the fighter who scores cleanly, on target and with effect OR the fighter who fouls less will win the round.

I remember judging once and one guy kept on grabbing the ropes, hyper-extending the back in the clinch and hip-tossing.....he was blatently the stronger fighter, but due to the fact of him persistantly fouling I gave it to the other fighter.
James McIntyre
Posted: 2008-09-15 15:48:11
Thanks for clearing that up as it's quite substantially different from MMA (where the referee is the only one who can dock points for a foul), there does seem to be some confusion though as to whether the "trips" Jo used were legal or not however, is it not the case that if the top of the foot/shin is used in a kicking motion then it is not illegal? It seems to indicate here that is the case.
Posted: 2008-09-16 03:31:23
Good scoring craig i gave it same as you, taking trips away gave it a draw in my eye's. Saying that though i don't think jojo was her normal self either, wasnt in as good as shape as normal so maybe struggled a little lossing last bit of weight, i also think thats why she was fooked in last 2 rounds she was tired where as christi looked like she had only just got going, her fitness is mental. Well done both girls best fight ive seen in a long time female wise and would be an awesome rematch that has just gotta happen. Well done guy with the show and thanks for having us. Jordans gay and has a glass jaw, such a woman,lol. nice 1 gaylad. bet steve wasnt too happy with ya though?? lol.
stu holden
Posted: 2008-09-16 15:27:08
Christi,s next fight is going to be a hard one she is fighting 1 of my girl fighters Jackie Short under FTR. I think this will be a cracking ladies bout.
Posted: 2008-09-17 04:14:15
That will be interesting to see how christi's fitness and being light on her feet competes with jackies strenght and experience, im on the fence.

Cheers andy good to know i wasnt alone on my thinking ;)
Liam R
Posted: 2008-09-17 04:59:11
that will be an excellent fight congrats for getting a womens FTR bout on, hopefully all will follow suit soon!
Sid Remmer
Posted: 2008-09-17 16:50:16

Wheres the fight picis? Must be some about by now surely?

My missus and corner woman Sam does a blog for the local paper and Ive just logged on to find that shes done her last blog on our visit to the show. Shes in bed now, but Ill thank her for doing it in the morning (and a 'slap' for not telling me).

While we wait for the fight picis, heres a pici of the venue. Guy - it is gorgeous!
Gary O'Brien STBA
Posted: 2008-09-20 06:43:35
Sounds like it was a great show, guess I'll need to catch it on DVD! Sounds like Rung still is still on great form!
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