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ChrisLee
Posted: 2010-06-15 03:25:20
I'm sick of everytime it comes down to doing something, I'm sick of running... people say that's who I am... They say in the end of the day you will Fly or Fight (Flight or Fight).

Is this true that I can't change, has anyone else been here? Is there any training I should do or should I focus on something other than training like disipline, I need help guys.

(Also this is my first post - Tell me if Ive done something wrong)
Raf Hussain
Posted: 2010-06-15 18:17:34
Hi Chris

There's a guy on here & you can find threads on him Vinny Shoreman, works in mind coaching, he'll turn you around for sure. Good luck.
ChrisLee
Posted: 2010-06-16 04:45:40
Thanks Raf, erm ill try and contact him but i was really hoping there would be a cheap and effective way, like some training i could commit to.
markgibbs
Posted: 2010-06-16 06:36:21
Have a look at a guy who faced a lot of his fears

www.geoffthompson.tv

Free to sign up and some free stuff that will help straight away. Will set you on the right path.
noi666
Posted: 2010-06-16 09:34:03

I am also available for sports performance mind coaching
Mail me on rich@starmindcoaching.co.uk
Brian Ritchie
Posted: 2010-06-16 11:08:50
Chris,

Can you be more specific?
Are you saying that you are considering fighting? Like an interclub or amateur level Muay Thai?

Or were you speaking more generally?
Brian Ritchie
Posted: 2010-06-16 11:25:03
Oh, and welcome to Ax, btw :-)
ChrisLee
Posted: 2010-06-16 13:51:37
Erm yeah i ment both haha well tbh i normally just run from anything and i rly rly want to fight interclub tbh but i think im gonna end up in getting so frustrated i cry or im just going to run away from it all.
mh.
Posted: 2010-06-16 16:15:53
Martial arts are a sport and a game of skill. It's no coincidence that people who do judo and various types of jiu jitsu are described as players and that submission grappling is sometimes described as human chess. Rather than thinking of it as a "fight", try thinking of it as a test of skill and technique. If you get hit or someone blocks one of your strikes, consider that to be something to work on. Conversely, if you hit them successfully or block one of their strikes, that's a success. I'm not particularly aggressive but I got my BJJ blue belt a couple of months back because as part of my technique I look for weak spots and mistakes while trying not to give anything up myself. When I do Thai sparring I sometimes try a few different styles just to see what works against someone. Sometimes with BJJ I'll deliberately put myself in a weak position or allow someone to set up a submission to see if I can work out how to get out of it.

Part of the training is getting used to being hit or having someone sitting on you while trying to decide what to do next. A lot of it is down to experience. I'll sometimes allow someone to start putting on an arm bar or triangle choke because I've got a couple of escapes that I know work quite effectively and put me in a dominant position afterwards.
Smiler
Posted: 2010-06-17 09:49:31
Vinnie, Richie Cadden or I can all help for sure...

The reaction is due to your ANS firing up in your limbic system, your adrenal glands pumping out hormones and firing out you sympathetic system ready for the GAS (General Adaptative Response) more commonly known as the Freeze Flight Fight (Fear and Feint) repsonse.

These responses escalate in response to perceived danger, especially with proximity of danger. They always fire in the same order as stress is increased and they are overloaded. First you will freeze, to assess, and if stress increases again you will flight usually in exactly the direction away from the perceived threat, and if stress increases again you will fight.

This all takes place above conscious awareness.

If you fight and the stress increases further it is now postulated that you will now go into fear mode, and subsequently the feint mode.

It's your body's response system and it cannot be changed.

However, the approach is to not let that stress happen in the first place, increase the awareness, increase the knowledge, so that a threat is not perceived with the same danger, and you become 'de-senstitised' to that danger, and therefore the GAS is not invoked.

There are lots of other things that can be done to help you over come this utilising hypnosis and various interventions and appropriate training - and these are all things that Vinnie, Rich and myself are Certified and trained in doing.

There's more information on my blog following my signature too - have a look at the following posts for a better understanding so far too:

http://garysmilerturner.blogspot.com/2010/06/limbic-system-and-fighting-introduction.html

http://garysmilerturner.blogspot.com/2010/06/can-you-control-pre-fight-nerves.html

Best regards,

Smiler

http://garysmilerturner.blogspot.com/
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