Hiya there everyone,
i've been off the full contact scene for some time now and recently attended the full contact show at Walsall town hall last weekend. Although i had heard of Zuccala and Wood i had never seen them fight. I was very impressed with both fighters standard.
On the bill also was a very talented fighter called Harvey Harra. i believe he has some titles already and for me i think he could be the future of british full contact.
Can all the fighters and promoters who post on AX let me know of any other talented full contact fighters that are hot property at the moment. Can you post on what kind of stylists they are, what titles if any they hold and who they have fought.
Thank for getting me clued back up on this amazing sport.

Jason.

Without putting too much pressure on them , two names to look out for are "Ricky Wood" currentt ISKA Light middleweight champion and "Scott Taylor" , both young lads with a very priomising future . Not only are they talented but they have the right mentallity and general out look on what they are achieving .

Just two names though out of very good full contact scene !!

I'll do the bulldog's job and say John Orchard, very good. Dale and Fran fought at 72.5 I think (correct me if I'm wrong) and John usually fights at 75. If a weight could be agreed any combination of those three would be a great fight.

Others include Mary Cox Jr, possibly the best pound for pound in the UK. Nick Gill is one I've seen a lot of and he's being brought along very nicely by trevor Spencer. At the younger end saw a kid from Liverpool named Roy Fletcher and he looks a very good propsect. Knocked out a very good opponent with a cracking left hook when I saw him.

I will mention one of my own guys paul Wiffen, not a youngster (he's 35) but the best at 55 kilos.

Yeah i heard that Fran Zuccala bloke wasn't bad too ........... ha ha doh :(

Yeah, good call colin on John Orchard.
I once sparred with him, and he is soooooooooo fast and he was taking it easy on me!! ( I wanted to throw some low kicks and knees, but he wouldnt let me... well thats my excuse for him giving me a 'lesson'!!)

:)

Greg Mead at 69-72KG British champion 2 associations, i forget the names, stopped Bertil Q in 2 rounds i know was looking for a fight with Fran for ages but they never seemed to accept it.

good call, greg is a good fighter..A couple of more are jason Vasallo at 63.5kg and George pattison at 69 kilos. George is British champion with ISKA, WKU AND WKMA and unlike a lot of fighters would fight anyone,regardless of what title is attached to it.

Amongst the up and comers is Jag's fighter Barinder Singh. He looks really strong. Garry Taylor from Grantham has hit some good form lately and Steve Smith from Eddie Dujon's is a good Super-middle.

Zebs, next time why don't you headbutt him! LOL

didnt fran beat Greg mead over 5 rounds?
wasnt greg mead giving fran dirty looks at the weigh in?
read last months fighters

I think youre right , i think Fran ha sbeat Greg ! Birtle Queilly is a great guy and but a bit of a journey man now really i stopped him in two aswell two years back , real shame too was looking like a good fight .

Ive never seen him but i hear alot of good things about a fighter from the middlesborough area ... Engulf Neilson something or other .. i appologise for forgetting his name ..... some one help me out here !

Ingloff Neilsen

hes a tall guy from up north
used to fight in the "light" continuous circuit under a club called "Sandhu-kai"
run by a guy called Bal Sandhu.

Ingloff neilsen fought on the EMA circuit and used to kick everyones arses at under 80kg

Ingloff neilsen caused an upset and nearly KO'd Trevor Francis at the "QUEST" 2 tournament.

Also Mumtaz shaffi (who now fights at 57-59kg) foughgt ingloff neilsen
Ingloff was too big for mumtaz and put him down TWICE with right hands!

doesnt matter tho,...
Paul Lynch will make them all look like novices
you heard of Paul Lynch?
he walked through the WAKO amateurs like 3 times so far,...
he also represented the WAKO GB team in FC in Kiev
Ask Smiler he shared a room with lynchy

ive seen paul lynch fight a few times,hes very fast and skilfull.there seems to be alot of good fighters around the same wieght,maybe a k1 style tournament to find out whos the best obviously with fc rules though!Colin,jag,any other promoters?

what weight is Paul Lynch now???

What was the weight when Mumtaz fought Neilsen?? can't believe they were ever the same weight division.

mumtaz was 76kg when they both fought!!!
yeah mumtaz was a bit of a fatty :P

Paul Lynch is VERY fast and skilfull
dunno what hed be like against Fran Zuccula tho,... i think hed do ok till he gets hit with a right hand to the body :P

Now paul is more expereicned than dale wood and fran zuccula put together!!!
hes had literally 100's of fights

one warning tho to promoters and trainers,...
if one of youre guys is beating up one of paul lynch's students,...
then GOD help you once the fight is over,...coz paul will lay into you there and then OR wait till youve left the venue

Whats with the warning Farhad ? the thread is about quality british full contact fighters .. not who to cross and who not to , not really good for the fc image mate and you the fc spokes man !! lol

it speaks volumes about corruption in FC , you of all ppl shud know about that.
anyway, youll find out the hard way.
basically,... you ruff up paul lynch's guys and hell soon let you know his displeasure,.. just thought id let you know
ha ha ha

as for "quality" FC fighters,...
certain fighters have been "built up" on fighting novices for most of theyre fights and you KNOW what im talking about.
a fighter with 7/8 fights fighting a first timer eh? you think thats fair?

oh yeah and if you dont know what im on about,...
read my thread FC is going nowhere and youll soon see what im on about i.e. nothing you dont know already

Farhad, the snail has hit it on the head mate about your comments. I'm sure it's all tongue in cheek but what the hell do you mean by 'he'll let you know of his displeasure!'I've never met the guy, so can't comment. But nor have most people on here, gotta be careful he's lawyers are not reading LOL. Bottom line is if he's a quality fighter I'd love to have him on my shows. I'll just book myself a f***ing big bodyguard! LOL

Serious question though, what is FC Corruption??????? Tell us more. Is it like Watergate or who killed kennedy or is it just ' we should have got that decision but we didn't'

right colin here goes,
i was at an open tournament,.. and i witnessed his student being knocked stupid by this other guy.
paul jumped onto the mat and pushed the fighter out of the way and started threatening him then tried to punch him and started pushing referees and officials around!!!
Also a fighter lost a split decision to him and went to touch gloves with him after the fighgt to which he simply replied "fuck off" to and refused to shake hands

good sportsman ship eh?

As you say that's wrong if it happended. Can't say more on that really.

Mead fought Zuccala when he was a novice, his 1st 5 rounder and was close but Mead lost on points, Rematch has never been taken, Mead has knocked out a good few tasty chaps since then, Ingolf was also taken down, he is 72kg fighter now.

Colin werre you at the Newark show on saturday night ?

Had Greg on my show once, very good fighter. Want to get him back, just need someone good enough to fight him! (and that's someone who will sell a few tickets as well, I'm not daft!)

Snail, yes I was

Zuccala will sell a few tickets ;) Mead will just need 1 or 2 first as he has had a long layoff becoming a copper and getting married and moving and all. He'll be back though but i think he is switching over to a real sport now MUAY THAI!!!! Wow maybe another Hard as nailz cop, can follow in the footsteps of the mighty Pete Crooke

What weight is greg fighting at after his time out ?

Colin .... so which official were you ? which side of the ring ?
(face to the name and all that )

Farhad
you always seem to shit stir on behalf of people. Yet if they knew what you were saying on their behalf they would probably give you a good slap. You slag off Muay Thai regularly, in a juvenile and irritating way. You recently implicated a Thai boxing camp for the K1 scrap, who weren't even involved ( I am informed, on good authourity, that they are just waiting to see you face to face 'to show their displeasure'). You slag off a fellow kickboxer who isn't an Axer and can't defend his reputation, which I find rather sad. If you haven't got the guts to say these things to a persons face then you should keep your acidic opinions to yourself. Well done to the snail for picking you up on your shit stirring, he's only said what many were thinking.

Shinpads at dawn! U better run Farhand

snail, i was the good looking one Ha ha! I was by the Dj Box on the left as you looked on. You were there?? Should have said Hello. Not a bad show, obviously just a small show, but a good five rounder with Suky and danny and a battle between Mark Thompson and Andy McKenzie so worth it. Poor old Dean was let down by a couple of fighters and then the doctor got stuck in traffic, but all went well in the end.

Farhad, Sorry mate but I think that post is correct. I've said before we have to be careful to not misuse Ax. As no doubt most could, I could come on here and bore everyone about the behaviour of certain people, including well known ones but its ultimately damaging so best left.

Farhad mate in a sport that needs to be proffesional , well run and organised so it can grow and show its full potential you really can't go around childishly stirring the way you have here .... and from a guy who goes on about how our sport isn't run proffesionally, well run and organised it simply makes your other agruments look very weak .

Colin .... i was there at Newark to see Scott Taylor fight , he fought out of the Panthers gym but joins me for training regular ! shame Dean was let down but made the most of what he had and did well .i enjoyed it .

rogue runner:
as for the "k-1 scrap"
i NEVER implicated anyone
im just going by what 8i heard
i never said if i knew if it was true or not

youre the real shit stirrer

another thing Rogue runner :
i never slagged off MT at all
i just dont believe its the be all and end all of everything, its a good martial art but certainly not the best.
there ISNT a best martial art!!!

anyway, back to the thread....

Whose the next big thing then???? Any guys still doing the three rounders who you think will come good??

You should be careful the remarks you make of people thinking they can't hear!

Barinder singh and his cousins Karlbir and Harjinder Singh will be big names in the full contact scene.
This isn't because I train with them (ok a little bit) but the attititude Barinder displays in both the gym and outside with regards to his focus to the sport and determination tells me he's going to be a big name.

He's alread a Midlands Area Champion and has an impressive record

Yeah, seen Barinder and he's really strong. Only saw karlbir fight Light con but could see he's gonna be a good one, and of course Fads there's you as well, that is if leave that thai boxing alone LOL

I mention one of mine, and a women as well. My girl Bonnie Webb is now 3-0 and I'm going to struggle to get her fights soon, but she's developing nicely and has a really good FC style. She's 62 kilos at moment so if anyone has a similar girl then let me know.

colin i could be inclined to try anything right now
i don't believe in restricting myself to any style but i must admit i love and prefer thai

BINGO!
Mr lynch nice to see you have surfaced
i noticed you didnt deny any of the allegations, honesty i like that
another thing Mr Lynch ,
do you believe in Fair Play ?

If so,.. how about rematching that fight i refer to at a show with DECENT officials and without all the intimdation and carry on that went on last time
eh? hows that ?

If you TRULY believe in fair play and proper sportsmanship then feel free to email me rather than carrying on on THIS topic whih is unrelated
hows that then?
and who says im never reasonable :)

ok at 57-60kg theres:
Ricky Glover
and mumtaz shaffi
mumtaz shaffi will fight ANY FC fighter @58/59kg
whose willing to bring it on???

Ricky Glover .. yes
Muntaz Sahffi .. maybe !!

He could be so much better than he is , seeing him in the gym and then in the ring is like watching two different fighters

come on snail give the man a break!!!
hes just been unlucky so far thats all
he was winnign till he got caught ,...
and he was doing really well, just give him a break hell be back
early on he was mismatched as well

Farhad ,, im not having a dig mate , just an opinion if anything a compliment because hes been against some top guys , but his potential is greater than people who haven't seen him in the gym would think, hes a good lad but could be better thats all im saying .

You put his name on you should expect opinions on him ..... hey i put Ricky Wood and Scott taylor by all means give your opinion on those ....

im keeping MY opinion quiet to be honest coz ppl get pissed off!
i can say good things about them but also things that may offend and i know how you take criticism

lol.............. ill leave it with you

actually i dont know 100% how youd react so im gonna wait and see what you have to say then ill think about posting what i think.

Colin how old's bonnie?
u should speak to jag as we have a female at that weight who's quite seasoned but is a jnr

'actually i dont know 100% how youd react so im gonna wait and see what you have to say then ill think about posting what i think.'

Words of a true thinker!?

fads, Bonnies 20.

I've heard of a few of those guys but most of the names mentioned are new to me. I'll have to get around to some live shows in the new year and see some of them in action.
What do you guys think of Harvey Harra? i was ultra impressed with him on the Walsall show and think he could go all the way if he is managed correctly.
A few more fighters who a few years ago were making allot of noise were Paul Murphy, Simon Dore, Phil Richard, Perry Benn and a very tasty fighter from Birmingham i think called Niel Kelly. Does anybody know if these guys are still active and if so what do you think of their ability's and capabilities?

neil kelly is still the man
even tho he fights once a year,...
perry benn didnt he go into boxing? i havent heard much of him to be honest i think when he was winning titles ive heard he was like 35!!!
phil richards is still around and still KO'ing ppl.

harvey harra is possibly the BEST FC fighter to watch i think hell beat almost anyone at 69kg i think.

Simon dore is fighting K-1 sometimes,. but once in a while,.. i think he does occasional top of the bill fight in leicester

Paul Lynch is a good friend and colleague of mine.

Yep, we shared a room in Kiev, where he lost about 6lbs in 5 days and I think it was pneumonia he caught out there! Paul was also a long standing member of the British Ju-jitsu squad and fought internationally with us.

Paul is one of Britian's most experienced kickboxers - he's been there, seen it, done, and went back for more! That's from points, light continuous, and through to full contact.

Well travelled, well competed, top bloke.

Smiler

i heard it was hepatitis B !!!
i heard that the way the kiev hosts treated the WAKO GB team was pretty shitty
is that true?

Sort of - everyone was treated badly!

We lived off vinegered carrot (until Barrington had the bright idea of asking at a local school for English speaking kids, and we hired a guide and got some chicken!) We used our tape up to stop the draughts on the windows, it was minus 17 centigrade at midday without windchill....late nights (finishing 2-5am the next morning - back in the arena at 7.....)

Vitaly Klishco always and the rest of the Ukrainian team always appeared only just before their fights....

But it was the same for everyone - I think it was just how poor that country actually is! (Not just the GB team that suffered...)

And the event was fantastic - about 60 countries in attendance!!!!! Class fights, class event!

Smiler

Kind words indeed Mr Turner...I'm honoured.
I think the guide was called Dimitri and yes it was cold!
Chicken and chips and 10,000 spectators are my fond memories your snoring and three weeks in hospital has to be the downside.

Dimitri!!!

You've got a great memory! It was! I remember we paid him a load of dollars to say thanks at the end - I think he earnt more in a few days than his parents had that year! Damn were we grateful!!

Didn't your music drown out my snoring?!?! I also remember being jealous of Aaron Bacon - he'd brought tea bags if I remember and a kettle! Hmmm....unless you were there, its hard to understand how much you needed warmth.....

Kiev Team....

More...

Chris McNeish at minus 20 centigrade outside Dynamo Kiev football ground - how's that for cold flexibility!!

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Oh....and the food.....

Arrrrrrrrrggggggghhhhh!

And yep, that's Ennio Falsoni on the dance floor!

Now that's a nice fella with a great sense of humour!!!

Smiler

S'pose the last one had better be of full contact then!

This is me in the first round, beating Andre Pneiski of Poland. The fight was at something like 3 in the morning...therefore not much of a crowd...

Incidently, I also beat him two years later, in the final of the Gdansk WAKO Worlds. He's a tough cookie!

I miss those pickled fried eggs!!
There is Perry Benn himself and 'Kenny Dalglish' in the front row!
John Higo mentioned he was talking to you recently.

Yeah!

I'm still heavily involved with the British JuJistu Squad - getting ready for the Canadian World Champs next June! John, his wife, and the kids(!) are often at the training sessions...

Its always good to see John and Tony!

Smiler

Oh yeah!

Andre Daltrey says hi! He's been helping me improve my kicking and kneeing, coaching me for K1...

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Paul Lynch :
Rowdie says hello,...im sure you remember him :P
hell be on here at some point to say hello and tell you how he is doing.
Oh yeah and hes back from spain now,... i remember you saying hell be "sorely missed" well he looks forward to sharing a ring with tony dias as opposed to a mat (assuming mr dias will oblige).

Again all in fairplay and good sportsmanship

Ere all week!!!