Dekkers full fight record?
Was just wondering if anyone knows all the people Dekkers fought in his 200+ fights?
and would be interested in hearing if any Axr's have been in the ring with the living legend
According to his DVD he had almost 200, i.e 193 or so. Approx 170 wins with 90 or so KO's.
I would love to see the full run down as well.
Cheers,
FB'Slim
I know he fought Coban - Sangteinoi - Cherry - Veira and a few others but would love to know the full run down.
did he fight any british fighters - im sure he fought at least one but cant rememner his name
I've got Dekkers on video fighting a UK fighter, Tommy McArthy I think he's name was. It wason the same bill that Tony Moore fought Hippolyte.
I think Dekkers stopped him round two or three, He completely dominated the whole fight.
Paul Hamilton fought him twice too. I think it was 1 win 1 loss but I might be wrong.
is that Tommy McCarthy from Scotland???
Paul and Ramon will have been sharing a few tales of woe last sunday then.... would have like to heard some of them stories
I don't know Noi, he was a mixed race guy. Not even sure if I've got the name right. I'll have a look at the video tonight to confirm the name. Tony Moore was in he's corner, that much I remember !
Ramon fought against an English opponent by the name of Kevin Morris. Morris was not very confident and did a lot of running around. Ramon was in his development stage – trial and error time – and was making his on the job training. For example, he used a spinning hook kick in this fight and other craziness. But, Dekkers gave Morris some good punches and some very good kicks. The judges gave him the decision in that fight against Kevin Morris. This win gave him the European Title (NKBB) on 14 April 1988 in Eindhoven, Holland.
There was also another Morris - Mike Morris, Kevin’s brother. Ramon fought Mike Morris 19-06-1998 in Amsterdam, and was the winner on points. Mike was fighting in the place of his brother who was injured. They were rather good boxers. But kickboxing was an entirely different matter.
Ramon fought Thomas McCartney in Rotterdam in 1990.
Tommy McArthy is in Aberdeen. He isnt mixed race Andy C.
As far as I know, both Morris brothers, Tommy Mcarthy and Paul Hamilton have fought Dekkers from he UK.
I know he also fought Gilbert Ballentine (The Pitbull) another one of the dutch greats, also Kayak?, John Bing who I think is one of the toughest men on the planet, Gerald Mamadeus from Matuari in Holland, Orono...
Sakmongkol, Saengtien(3), Den(3), Cherry(2), Jomhod, Chainoi, James Bond, Superlek, Numphon(2), Orono, Boonchai, Mungkordum, Anakhoun, Ramkisoen, Coban(4), Sombat, Chareungton Kiatbangchon, Lom Isarn Thanikul, Pralomran, Theerapong, Namkubuan
Minato Taro, Cesaer Joel(2), Danny Bille, Ryan Simson, Gerald Mamadeua, Jerry Morris, Hector Pena, Fernando Calleros, Dijibli, Pennachio, Khaled, Deflorin,
And the list goes on and on and on..................................
dekkers is coming here soon to oz along with benny the jet!!! cant wait!
Hey Humble when is he coming to Oz and do you know his itinery?
Cheers
Rob
Joe Prestia(2), Gilbert Ballentine(3), Saimai, Ogata, Jon Bingsedor, Dida Diafat(2), Kohiromaki, Tarzati, Kassrioui(2)........and the list goes on
Richard Nam(2), Deshawin...........and on and on
Hiroshi Yoshitaka,Issara Sakkreerin and Michael Ubbergen.
Ramon Dekkers Vs. Issara Sakkeerin
the first time i saw Ramon fighting was in Eindhoven in 1988,he fought Kevin Morris,after that fight I haved seen the most of his fights here in Holland,I saw also Mike Morris,Gilbert Ballantine(3x),Joao Vierra,Michael Ubergen,Thomas McCartney,Namphon,Cherry S. Wanich,Sangtiennoi,Gerald Mamadeus,Descharwin,Pralomran,Hassan Kassrioui(2x) and Marino de Florin,so I saw Ramon In 17 fights,can you imagine that i feel lucky that I saw him so much in his prime?
Thomas Mcarthy was a good welterweight in the 80's early 90's from Tony Moores camp. He dominated the British scene for a bit but came unstuck against Dekkers. He had heart but the gulf in class was too much (that night). Respect to him for taking thr fight. I think I would rather have cut my hand off with a butter knife!
what age did ramon dekker retire at? when was it and who was it against?
On Sunday, 18 March 2001, Ramon Dekkers fought his farewell fight against Marino de Florin in Rotterdam,he was then 31 years old.
Thomas Mcarthy was not the one from Scotland. He was from Sitsiam camp (tony moore).The tape also shows Tony Moore against Hippolyte and Sandra Moore against Corrine Gereets. Sandra was one of the very few to go the distance with Lucia Ryker! The other man in the corner is Jeff Burns from what was the originally Yee el Kai kickboxing in Manchester.
At the moment apart from the double dekkers dvd there is also one available in Japan that has 15 whole fights on it. Kieran found it on the web and we ordered it. Wicked fights as ever with the main man! The real deal dekkers fights are all really at 65 and below after that is the latter period of his career. he truly was a monster of a fighter always in a great fight. Will there ever be another Dekkers ? I dont think so!
Dida Diafat (2x)
What about that fight vs. Issara ? wasn`t he the lumpinee champ that time ?
Farhad get the too hot to handle series and you will see the last dekkers fight. The WPKL collection also has many of the fights including the ones against Kassirou from Sitan gym for WPKL world title. Also has fights against Ryan Simpson featuring double knockout!! The canal plus films have the Dida fights which are great fights and the first Koban fight but under kb rules.
Alan. Can you post details of where you ordered the dvd/video of 15 full fights?Website,whatever.Wouldnt mind that myself. cheers
Alan..Tommy McCarthy from Scotland...is a from the North West of England (a Scouser actually)
Does anyone Know where Sandra Moore is now...I do ;)
See some of the best matches from one of the best Muay Thai boxers of all time. Ramon, who is now retired, has an astounding record of 175 wins, 90 by knockout in his 200 total fights. See this eight time world champion in 12 amazing (complete) matches spanning 8 years.
Matches include
vs. Issara Sakkreerin (11/27/1990)(Thailand)
vs. Boon Chai (12/18/1990)(Japan)
vs. Saengtiennoi Sor. Rungrot 1 (03/22/1991)(Japan)
vs. Coban Lookchaomaesithong 1 (04/21/1991)(France)
vs. Coban Lookchaomaesithong 2 (08/06/1991)(Thailand)
vs. Saengtiennoi Sor. Rungrot 2 (09/03/1991)(Thailand)
vs. Sakmongkol Sitthichok (11/26/1991)(Thailand)
vs. Coban Lookchaomaesithong 3(02/28/1992)(Thailand)
vs. Taro Minato (06/02/1995)(Japan)
vs. Hector Pena (10/15/1995)(Japan)
vs. Fernando Caelos (03/16/1996)(Japan)
vs. Hiroshi Yoshitaka (04/26/1998)(Japan)
Hi Muay thaison,
You can order it at Budo videos,this is the link:
http://www.budovideos.com/shop/customer/product.php?productid=18079&cat=336&page=1
"For the Record"
Thomas Mcarthy "AKA TODDO" A long Time Friend !( Nothing to Do with Thomas McCarthy Scouser In Aberdeen Scotland ! )
Was First and Foremost Master Skens Fighter! In Manchester, And had All his Top Fights With Master Sken, he trained Him ! To British Champion level ! In Fact he and I was training partners for Some time ! We Both Even Fought alongside each other in a Big Great Britain V Hong Kong Team, Full Thai Rules In Hong Kong Together ( Along With Tony moore and the famous Oliver and Humphrey harrison Bros: ALL Under / with Master Sken, 5 man Team fight )
When Tony Moore Split With master Sken Toddo went with Tony ! And Tony Was then Toddos Trainer etc: and It was this Time That Tony Managed himself and Toddo and His Daughter Sandra Moore etc:!
Toodo was very Competant ! And Poss; ( No Disrespect Tony is Good, But Master Sken trained him, me etc: )Under Master Sken Toddo Might? poss; have Done Slightly better ?
Who Knows?
But Wow on him for taking it in the First Place !
Quick Question?
Why Didnt Ronnie Green Ever Meet With Ramon Deckkers?
They was the same weight at the Time !
63 Kilos !
Curious ?
Paul Hamilton was a top Fighter from the U.K Who went with Dida Diafat Twice i believe ! and Not Sure it was Ramon Dekkers?
I Know paul on a personal Level and hes a Top Guy ! hard Working very Busy all over the Place with his Fighters ! Hes the Trainer of the Fighter i really Like From his Darlington Camp
Miachael Dicks ! ( I really rate / like him )
Heres a Piccy i took @ The Leeds Fights last week ! Of Paul Hamilton Leaning On Ropes along with Fighter In Question ! Helping in Corner ! Michael Dicks and the Up and Coming Fighter `GINGE` Mr Howie
good question sandy... but mr. green did meet and beat dekkers main adversary gilbert ballentine and at that time dekkers and balentine both had one win over each other. The reason why they never fought could be the same reason why many fighters the same weight dont fight each other,. that is money, politics etc eg. check out these matches on uk level
Harper v Crooke
Wakeling v Hudson
Wakeling v Crooke.
Woods v Crooke
Woods v Wakeling.
Tim Thomas v Wakeling
Thomas v Hudson
Wakeling v Chesters
Chesters v Dicks
Dicks v Wakeling
Chesters v Harper
Beale v Harper
Beale v Wakeling
Beale v Hudson
all are around 70kg but havent fought each other and all have had plenty of fights international and otherwise. Crooke and Harper obviuosly more experienced and would go in as favourites. The 70kg division is real strong with Hale, Fenwick and others in it aswell. Fenwick is away but shall return from Aussie with even more experience to match this division.
It isnt that the fights shouldnt happen it is to do with money, sanctioning, politics etc. Wakeling would be a good fight against any of the above cos he is young, hungry, aggresive and skilled although he doesnt have the experience of Harper or Crooke he can and would give a good fight.
Good Prospect List MR Kiddle !
alan,
IMHO:These drop in to two leagues.
Div 1:
crook(69), harper(67) and chesters(66) are all on a par.
Div 2:
woods(70),wakeling(69),thomas(67), dicks(69), beale(70)
At this level these minor discretions in weight will make a difference, so I think it would be unfair to say that all these matches have not happened because of purely politics etc.
In Thailand all stadium fights are matched to the pound (not even kilo!). I think there is a bit more depth to this conversation why these fights have not happened.Another thing is that we obviously dont fight as often as the thai's so there will be conflicts of interest ie fights being offered while already commited to another.
This would be absolutely fantastic for a K1 Max UK, if all these guys could fight. Given enough notice(and money), I bet they could!!!!
Noi66,
All these fighters:
Div 1:
crook(69), harper(67) and chesters(66) are all on a par.
Div 2:
woods(70),wakeling(69),thomas(67), dicks(69), beale(70)
have all fought between 67 & 70kg and can pretty much make anything between these two weights. Crooke even fought Ole Laursen at 72kg.
So I don't know; IMO, if the weight differences have anything to do with the reason they haven't fought. I would tend to take Alan point of view (politics, money, etc) and the fact that a lot of fighters have commited to fights else where as the reasons why.
I love to see some of the fights Alan mentioned. I think Peter Crooke is still the no1 fighter at 70kg followed by Harper and Wakeling.
thanks Dirk.
that dvd looks tempting but a bit expensive right now,Will definately be putting it on my Santa Clause list though.
No,thanks Muay thaison,
Ramon is a fighter who deserve it !!I will always promote him.The dvd is awesome!!It have complete fights with complete intro's into the fights,It's expensive,I know,but it's a super dvd.
Dirk,
Is that DVD available on NTSC?
Eric
Hi Eric,
The dvd is ntsc,but it's a regio 2.
Greetings Dirk.
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