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Had the pleasure of meeting Carlton and has to be said, what a true gentleman he is, very polite and friendly. Out and out nice guy, check out his tour, well worth it.
Rise of the Footsoldier tour - Carlton Leach
The start of the official UK Tour Sunday 16th March:
CARLTON LEACH - RISE OF THE FOOTSOLDIER
You have heard the story!
You have seen the film!
Now meet the man!
HOOLIGAN, BOUNCER, GANGSTER, LEGEND
Sunday 16th March
Sky Bar Sports Arena
Festival Leisure Park
Basildon
Essex, SS14 5DG
Ticket Hotline 01268 533599
Or buy online www.carltonleach.com
Cass Pennant and Romeo from the so solid crew will also be on the bill, I will keep posting the guest as and when confirmed!
And can I please state that I am in no way offically linked to this show, it is my friend Carlton and his management team organising the event and I am simply getting some extra coverage for Carlton on here and supporting him in a positive manner!
Hook, you're 16 with and yet to live ,views based on the film, good for you, get out in the real world and then in about 20 years, we'll chat young one!
Why (If it did happen) was the man tortured, what had he done, I'd love to hear the facts of the story based on what you know lil one ?
Calum attracts totty, it is all about drawing a crowd, advertising, networking, just the same as Jodie Marsh attracts blokes! ;-)
lol Noi, she is in fact, nothing like what she is on camera, but plain Jane never get any media attention, she is a lovely girl with a big heart, she was not happy when I wore a full length leather while running the security at her wedding.................Which lasted longer than I expected ;-)
Your attempts to goad a reaction from me have been futile and a waste of your time, but they have made me giggle!
However there is a time when making noise and gobbing off has to stop, now what I think the next course of action should be, since you have such a problem with me, my friends and the show/s in genera, which you have made clear in several posts, is this -
The next time you are in London or I am up your way, I will happily meet you and you can vent your BS/jokes/abuse in person, to me and or the people you have moral objections against, me, Carlton for his Shows, Jodie for her wedding etc etc etc, blah blah blah.
Regardless of whatever you post back, be it abuse or one of your attempts at a joke on my part or what you think of my friends, I would lay a large amount of cash on you NOT accepting my offer.
I will even pay for your B&B and train fare, I cannot say fairer than that can I!
Now I have had my final say to you on this matter young one!
This is a public forum and unless I am told by AX not to post further, then I will continue to do so happily and proudly :-)
Give my best to David Riley for me as well please!
in short i have no problem with anyone putting on these kind of shows there is an audience it should be aimed at??? ive never even heard of carlton leach til now to be honest but am sure he will do well without you posting it on a muaythai and kickboxing forum! i dont agree with anyone ie Roy Shaw lenny mcleans violent past but thats my opinion, i personally think things should never be allowed to go that far no matter how tough life is....which is what the thread was originally about...iv never said any derogatory comments about these guys cos well...there gansters aint they...ive enjoyed reading about there illstrated lives but that lifestyle aint my cuppa tea :) you however are a complete tit and i dont know why your posting thesethreads on here when everyone on this site...and i mean everyone hates you.....Thats all my point was........so instead of trying to call me out..like i said i dont agree with violence im a professional athlete not a hardcore ganster like yourself, how about this i just ignore me and ill ignore you, cos i dont ever wish to meet you! is that ok sugar?
can someone answer it was a serious question form a mate of mine who said some of the other surprise guests will be cast of eastenders please confirm yes/no as he intends to book online thanks challenges such as this should be done on the microphone at the tower ballroom, remember that, was class. WWE style.
if the offer of a free ticket and b&b to london for a calm debate was on offer i think most of us would be packin our toothbrushes now ! But i very much doubt that is what youre getting at ! so again it boils down to meaningless violence !
Right first off Tony a serious question for you. What the fuck does this have to do with Muay Thai? Kickboxing? or any other martial art come to think of it?? The answer is nothing. All you are doing is putting crap on a public forum which young kids go on? to be fair thats just stupidity. You are selling the show with this line......HOOLIGAN, BOUNCER, GANGSTER, LEGEND? Sort youre life out. I no for a fact that a few of my kids that i teach come here on a daily basis and i no that they have read this, and i have to say as a professional fighter, and instructor of these young children i am well pissed off with this being allowed on here. And then there is the blatent offer that you have also put on here basically calling out my cousin/best friend and a massive role model to id say 99.9% of young Muay Thai fighters in this country. Do you even realise what an idiot youre making yourself look? Did you not read the real hard men thread and think to yourself "hang on a minute,,, everyone is slagging me off and calling me all kinds of names??" because you should have. It was for a reason. Now for this comment....
This is a public forum and unless I am told by AX not to post further, then I will continue to do so happily and proudly :-)
I shall make it a bit easier for you. To all out there who do not agree with this mindless thread which has no meaning in our world, please give Ax a quick email requesting it to be removed? Needless to say im quite sure they will have a massive response and hopefully have the common sense to remove such BOLLOCKS.
ok dokey loads of shit flying round on here for one this is a off topic forum and does not necessary have 2 be about muay thai as for the post no one likes you on here.. dnt speak for me thanks as yet 2 have met tony i do not make pre judgements of people of hearsay and bullshit .. all i can say he been fine with me .. all the negative shit and crap is totally of thread as this was about real hardmen as the thread was started and has totally flown of the subject and started a personal vendetta in my view against one person i am not best buddies with tony nor do idolise crime but i think it is bang out of order like the saying aint got anything nice 2 say dnt bother . he has his views and u have yours ... has he been rude and arrogant 2 anyone on this thread sorry if im wrong but he hasnt and all this stems as one form of bullying which was what you was calling lenny roy and carlton for and as for kids going on here there is far worse on other threads for kids 2 see and read .. and if he wants 2 support his friends in a show thats upto him
what goes round, comes around.
karma is a strange thing.
some people are good hearted, and lead good lives.....some dont.
some people no right from wrong.....some dont.
some people stand up for what they believe in.....some dont.
we dont have to answer to anyone on earth....but we have to answer to our maker when our numbers up.
In Thailand, they have a thing called "jai dee" (good heart)...as well as "jai dam" (black heart)...I am sure you can understand the concept.
I know the statements are not directly applicable to the conversations above, but its certainly food for thought....everyone will make their own assessment and draw their own conclusions.
I think I know which side they will favour.
Liam, despite all other postings, proof is in the eating of the pudding boy, take a bite of the shit sandwich and enjoy it, your post speaks a million words, you little web warrior, whoever supports you, more fool them, quality. Anytime any of you are in London, let me know, just to see you shy away and crumble like a pudding will do me good pmsl
Also, David Riley is the Bad Co fighter who I beat, and well, and who threatend me with a fire arm after, funny! Well Ironic!
Andy BC, jump in with Liam, I'll buy your ticket as well my lad you pri*k, here is my not so diplomatic approach, what you going to do about it web warriors?
Empty vessels make the most noise and you two blow like a hurricane.... wooooossssshhhhhhhhh
For all the emails about not reacting, lets see where these boys go from here.
I'm standing up for my mates against you and whoever you want.
Now behave boys and 'jog' on.
Tony Hayes "Defending himself and his friends against the ax web wank*rs, I mean warriors"
Liam.... How funny, you've really show your worth, you're a weeeeeeeeeeeeeeeebbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbb warrrrriooooorrr, and whatever I am boy, these people want round for what? A reason...
There you are boy with you attitude and jokes, you area little pri*k and I'll say the same to you and whoever else in your face.
What you going to do?
42 fights what, hahaha!
Now let us see what you are made off, South East London is calling you and so is the sweet selling prick you have goaded.
My words, no one elses! No easy route out here for you, start it and you have to finish it big man! Or should I say, ikkle boy!
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the plastic ganster shows his true colours. pretty sure your the same guy i read about beating up a defenceless woman on this site.
good advice from someone older, dont waste your time on a fool like this. Let him keep thinking hes a big shot. you guys have done more in your careers than he could ever do in his whole life solet him stick to running round with water pistols, and you stick to being world class professionals.
I think living,training and fighting successfully in thailand amongst the hardest most brutal little buggers on the planet and getting Best Falang Fighter award does not a web warrior make....
This has clearly got out of hand, Liam is nothing like you have made him out to be Tony.
Liam is opinionated but I think the maturity you accuse Liam of not having in this thread, you should use yourself and handle the sitation a little better. Offering people out over the internet isnt going to get you anyway - pretty sure its a criminal offence isnt it? - but could be wrong.
Lets hope once this 'tour' is over we can see the end of all this - I havent followed the whole of the other thread as it didnt interest me but Im surprised where this one has ended up. Liam is one of the most popular guys within our sport, for good reasons, both in and out of the ring.
If this Carlton Leach tour isnt liked by people on here - might be an idea to stay off it (by all)..we all know everyones opinions now..no more selling and no more slagging. It has certainly made everyone aware of its happening.
Ive not commented on this so far as i can see both side of this debate , ive not been whiter than white as some people know but it was a long time ago i was also bullied Quite severly as a kid uptil the age of 15 .. people have there own opinions and views and right or wrong i bet most people on this thread have bullied in 1 way or other or been bullied for that matter , or indeed done things they know they should'nt have .
As i say I CAN see both sides to this coin , me and Liam have not seen eye to eye in the past but that was also a while ago and i do admire what he has and is doing in our game.
Never spoken to Tony, Judged one of his fights light yrs ago when i first started putting fighters out and seen him on the early circuit but again i admire him for sticking by his mates and his guns ( LOL perhaps not best term of phrase ) .
what i will say is i'm not suprised he has snapped finally, he has taken alot more than most on here and still been polite ... but there is only so much any man will take , and again who on this thread wouldnt have snapped by now ?not many i bet ..
LIVE AND LET LIVE , EACH TO THERE OWN and all that .
Surely this nonsense should be taken down by the moderators. As Andy says a lot of young impressionable kids read this and I doubt any parents would be happy about what this guy is trying to glorify, and doubt people would be too impressed at threats aimed at one of muay thai's best fighters and role models. I'm sure Tony wouldn't object to this.......that way he can go back to Googling info on celebrities
the lunatics have taken over the asylum? Good. I am going to start a thread about axkickboxing being a daft name and how its discrimination because I cant have it in my favourite colours, one of which is pink and also there should be a seperate Sandy forum with padded walls where he can post all by himself and not confuse me.
I wonder if a thread was up about supporting the KKK/Black Panthers/National Front/Al Kieda etc.... whether that would get taken down because of its moral stance?
i think apost about kkk national front and al kieda bit different than alot of hot hair about nothing on this thread.... tony is promoting a show about a film and a show about one of his friends life ... actors footballers alike are on the show and the proceeds are going 2 charity.. the guy maybe maybe not is a reformed character i dnt know him so cant judge or comment wether or not he is or isnt but he has been warning kids away from drugs and crime which is a good thing 2 here from someone who has actually lived that life ..how many posting on here have watched the film snatch lockstock and such films and enjoyed them .. not saying its right not saying its wrong .. but what is wrong is the constant shit throwing and rude and arrogant comments posted about people they dnt know personally no wonder he finnally snapped alot of people would have done long time ago ther is no need for it and if u havnt got anything nice 2 say dnt bother.....
I band the two subjects side by side on my moral scale of contempt....
racism,crime,extremizm.... all as bad as each other....
I hope that the thinly veiled excuse to glorify crime, comes forwards with a hefty sum for the "charity"....I wonder which charities this money will actually go to, and whether theres a substantial cut going to the "names" in attendance.
The fact that these criminals have lead the lives they have will always sit uneasily with people if they honestly thought about where their money was going.
I would like to think that every single penny went to some "cancer/BHF/childs" charity...but I cant help but think that this is not the case....and who wants to line the pockets of ex-criminals? This basically tells kids that its ok to be a criminal, and you can "cash on it later", so long as you viel it in a charity event....SORRY, but its not the case.
i no were your coming from noi but you dnt have 2 pay to watch it and probally alot of people think the same way as in with people calling bernard manning roy chubby etc no one is forcing youy to go and watch all i was saying is i cant comment and alot of others cant as they dnt actually know them just what they here and 2 start throwing shit and rude arrogant comments about jodie marsh or callum etc is bang out of order .. alright she poses as the blonde bimbo cliche but she is human and has feelings like every one else and so does tony he was not rude at the start or through this thread all he has done is promote his friends wright or wrong does not deserve the shit and all i can see is it is coming from the bc direction maybee sour grapes springs 2 mind yhats all
TBH pingu, I very much doubt its sour grapes. The "bc direction" is coming from Liam and Andy, who, if you know them, are straight as a die, call a spade a spade and really dont mince their words....they are also a pair of the biggest pisstakers around (in the nicest posible way) :)
....its all a laugh to be honest. The slant on jodie marsh/callum best....come off it. I am sure they have had a helluva lot worse in the tabloids than off a couple of lads from Leeds, so dont build it up and make a mountain out of a mole hill. I think the issue was mostly on the morality of this than the individuals involved.
I think we have all made our feelings felt on here, and we all know where we stand on the glorification of organised crime and the superficial fasade that is "fame" and "celebrity".
This is of topic forum i dont see any problem posting what they like.
I think maybe it is not the best of topics but if others dont prefer to read it post on the threads, After all this is not Liam and Andys site its a open forum for the public to enjoy one mans food etc
This all started basically cos i was laughing at the part when tony he said "im not name dropping but....." which i thought was funny...he then started goin on about how he expected stuff like that from me cos i havent lived...as if if i were older i would see that the crimes that were comitted would be acceptable maybe he didnt mean it totally along those lines but it was there or there abouts...then it esclated, most was just piss taking apart from a few posts.....as stated it started off with piss taking cos in my opinion some of the stuff tony was writing just sounded ridiculous, as said by beagle i am a piss taker and a straight talker....now to the people saying things like "ooh im not suprised hes snapped....look at it this way, how much stick does Frahad get on here??? has he ever offered anyone out, or threatened them with violence???? no cos its not acceptable, ive been taking down on here loads of times but never thrreatened anyone or said come to leeds and ill do you in!!! cos im a sportsman not a mindless thug, he just showed his true colours and thats simple as that......and Pingu stop talking out your big smelly arsehole, why would we have sour grapes against anyone??? it dont bother me if tony beat david riley in a novice fight before id even started training...and whats with all that oh jodie and callum have feelings ya know!!!! be quiet! all i said was ask her how her fake marriage is goin??? how can that hurt her feelings its the truth! not an insult....anyway i didnt know Jodie Marsh read ax!
and Tony as stated im a professional athlete so i will have to decline your offer, im not quite sure what you had in mind tho? 6 steps and shoot or a good old fashioned DUel on horseback?
if i had the money half of the names dropped on this thread i wouldnt give a toss what people wrote about me, id drive round leeds shooting jizz out of my limo sunroof at them. whats marshes name on ax i didnt know they were axers
Pound for pound the best around Liam is and am not being funny but fights the best the world has neither a shit bag nor tosser well respected and well thought of all the WORLD...simple terms brilliant and thats respect earned through his chosen sport a rarity and a talent enjoy him regardless what others say or write this is out of hand and frankly upsets me...i will cry x
i know he quality fighter never said he wasnt watched him in london when thai knocked him down and he got back up after 8 count and anillated him quality he is worth the entrance fee alone on any bill... was just saying the comments were abit much but if he was just taking the piss fair enough i cant comment on him as i dnt know him so leave it at that not getting drawn into a web slanging match ok dokey lets all be friends much nicer world
Right Tony you really have taken the whole thing too far now. First of all you are here saying "im just defending my mates" why?? Have myself, Liam or anyone else for that matter made any comments about your mates? (talking about the gangland side of things, jodie and callum dont count, they get shit fr4om every cunt in the papers everyday so why would they care what us2 say, and again are they ax readers?? im so excited, honest...) Not once a commenet was made about Carlton or any of his associates or enemy's. My whole problem is with the fact that in my eye's (dont give a fuck if anyone agree's with me or not) you gloryfying the the world of undergroung crime. guns/drugs etc,etc. That is my problem with it/you. There will be hundreds of kids out there who already have to compete with the fact that almost every single day there is some kid killed in a shooting or just a random act of violence in the uk everyday and i dont think that you promoting the film etc on this particular site is helping them in any way. Now please read this carefully and understand what i have put and the point im making without attemting to threaten me again, it pointless and i don't care. And also neither myself or liam where even training when you fought dave rilley, but i am friends with him, i attended his wedding reception etc, my girlfriend works with his wife, and showed her what you had put on here about her husband and well dave tells us youre basically talking bollocks?? And youve pissed off his instructor and ours id imagine when he does read all youre crap so nice work. And i would much rather believe Dave than you and thats that really, you have shown youre true colours and congrats for that. I had no problems with ypu personally other than thinking this whole thread and what it stands for is shite, but youre offer of coming to london for some violence on your behalf has made me change my mind. You are a true ambasador of martial arts, congratulations.
Thats all i have to say on it, its not worth it, that is until you decide to threaten me again for having a mind and oppions of my own again, when that happens i will be back.
Pingu, ypou have no idea what you are talking about, no way is this a bc thing, is davymc,vinny brian calder and the rest of the other guy's who went on the real hardmen thread and slagged Tony off from badco??? no there not.
yo im back! iv watched this thread all the way and cant believe some of the trash talked! tony iv seen you on here before and thought you sounded a resonable bloke, i have a mate who knows you(not naming him as im NOT a name dropper) and said you are a decent guy but you are letting yourself down here mate big time! first off who gives a fook about jodie marsh??? i think shes a resonable looking girl that has done nothing particular in her life to make it where she is (on the zed-list along with all the other never have beens on this show). challenging liam and andy to a jump off with you and your "friends" is not going to happen as they weigh about the same as your legs but if it was lb for lb they would smash you! you talking down to people as though you are a special constable is anoying, dont you remember what thats like yourself? these have achieved so muchin this sport,these people that you appear to worship are insignificant to me and everyone on here. do you think when they talk about their friends they mention you in the mix? i dont want to fight you, you would kill me! this isnt an attack on your manhood or even insult its just real talk! keep it real home boys!
liam this dude is as big as damien and i think he has a win over damien in the past although it was a long time ago and it was a dodgy decision! would you fancy 5 rounds with the hoodster? il fight him if you fight dave courtney, carlton and roy shaw!
id rather 5 rounds in a ring in gloves with dave courtney, carlton and roy shaw than the hood mate. i bet u weigh more now anyway iv been told uv packed on a few kidda when u back in rugeley
first lets get rid of a few myths about these people first been a thug in a suit is not the same as a buisness man.the i dont touch drugs line really means the bouncers who work for me pick the drug dealers who come in the clubs.I only commit violence against other violent crims....this really means i blindsided a bloke in a pub drinking with his wife who didnt really want to fight in the 1st placeAll violence and crime in general has a knock on effect what goes beyond just the victim its nothing to brag about.When i left school to get up at 6 in the morning freezing my nads off on a building site these tossers sign on and start there life of crime i have to pay for there dole and stamp paid.Then by late teens early 20s good times come to an end and prison looms so dickhead here still has to get up at 6 in the morning to pay for them inside.Now they want me to pay for a ticket to listen to them banging on about this sh*t.So please save your ticket money and maybe donate it directly to a good cause.As for that crap about asking liam and andy for a tear up would this idiot ask on a football or rugby website david becham and phil vickery for a fight and expect them to turn up.Yet he thinks that these 2 more succsesful athletes should.Time to grow up yourself tony.p.s i looked the word twat up in the dictionary and it said see jodie marsh and calumn best
sorry for dissing calumn jonc but dont u think this show would be much better if carlton leech would share the stage with some real celebs.for example keith harris and orville,syd little,reg from the bill and maybe anne diamond
The show was a huge success! 1200 people, fantastic all round!
Next it was not a physical challenge to Liam, there is no contest, me bashing up a 70kg boy isnt on my list of things to do, but the lad will one day get cocky in person and end up on the wrong side of the wrong person.......
I would have laughed at him and all the others on here flinging crap about, and had 99% of you come face to face with the people you were having pops at, it would have no doubt fallen silent and the tumbleweed would have blown past.......... Say what you want, it has proven to be true, which was the point of my posting last Saturday morning in the early hours!
I have SEEN it in person a 100 times from people who think/feel/say the same things as all of you qrite on here, yet none would say it to the person or persons concerned when they had the chance.
I come on here to promote my friends show and got abuse, but it come from people who do not matter to me or have any effect on my life, mind over matter yet again ;-) But as was posted on here by another person, there is only so much I will take, the same applies in person.
As for the plastic gangster post how funny is that, read my other post you prat, but then I have a GOOD idea who you are or who you are linked to faceless poster, and I will say this, that person and me have unfinished business which I will end as and when I am ready!
And me, violent? Yes I can be, very much so, but I keep it under control, like I do my mouth which I don't let write cheques my body cannot cash, unlike un-named persons!
The offer of coming down is still there, how you wish to approach it is upto you, if you want a handshake and a beer, all good, if not, well what can I say.
Un-like most of the people who post on AX, I do not rely on it for a form of entertainment, I have a very busy life, both work and social, hence why it has taken me a week to get back on here!
The next date for the tour is the 30th, I will post and post proudly the details, if AX wish to remove it, I will respect that and not post on here again, until then!
im not sure folk have said anything about people its about lifestyle choices not people.....and im 61kg not 70...well maybe sometimes i am....so basically if i dont come down you will just beat me senseless when you see me?? interesting! can me and andy have 2 0n 1 tagteam cos hes even smaller than me?
as most people can see tho to me ax is all entertainment its all a good laugh....ps im a lover not a fighter unless its sport the only thing that ill be giving a slap is myself over redtube...which im off to do now!!!!
Following a huge successful start to the tour, here are further dates and venues, whippets are now allowed entry, sorry about that, but try putting them down your trouser leg with your ferrets, sure that'll be fun you!
Bare in mind, I post on here only as me and not under any false names unlike some of the culprits on here, my picture is there for all to see, so tell me why a faceless bunch of cowards off the net would bother me. Please, as we say down safffffff, jog on ;-) mwah, byeeeee boys!
Rise of the Footsoldier Carlton Leach Tour 2008
The official UK Tour Sunday 30th March:
Angels Gentleman's Club - Bracknell - Berkshire - RG12 1EN
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The official UK Tour Friday 11th April:
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Rise of the Footsoldier Carlton Leach Tour 2008
The official UK Tour Sunday 13th April Cardiff: (Angel Hotel Cardiff)
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rise of the fat and bald man tour 2008.SCHOOLBOY,WORKMAN,MUG.watch how he had a six pack and all his hair AND LOST IT ALL.hear how he rose from the sofa to the violent and scary world of ikea ON SALES DAY.be on the edge of your seat with tales of minor disputes with his nieghbour was sorted out with talking and a HANDSHAKE.how his world nearly came crashing down when he bumped into a bloke in a pub and accepted his APOLOGY.The MAN the MYTH the LEGEND WICH IS FAT AND BALD MAN.get your tickets fast special geust star ALAN TITCHMARSH
Had the pleasure of meeting Carlton and has to be said, what a true gentleman he is, very polite and friendly. Out and out nice guy, check out his tour, well worth it.
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Is that all it takes to have your own tour?
I'm a true gentleman, I'm very polite and friendly, an out and out nice guy.
Details of my tour will be appearing shortly.
Fuck it, if you can't beat em join em.
Hopefully there will be 1200 brainless tossers willing to pay £15 a pop to listen to me.
Tony not been funny but why do you not read the posts we put and actually understand them?? I stated that we where not having a go at anyone but you yet you then come back on with this?
had 99% of you come face to face with the people you were having pops at, it would have no doubt fallen silent and the tumbleweed would have blown past..........
Lets get 1 thing straight here and now, i am not afraid of YOU so youre silly threats mean shit to me. If i met/meet you i will happily tell you to your face that i dont agree with what you have promoted on this site as that is my only issue, oh and threatening me and my cousin, thats there too i suppose. As for you bashing up a 70kg boy??? I think you need to actually see Liam fight a bit more. We have heavy weights in the gym rabging from 90 to 115kgs and me smashes them up. Has dropped Jullian Preistley (ex fighter, quite good, and massive)And throws Craig Burke all over in the clinch. So you putting that as though to say im big he's not ill smash him is a bit daft, but good luck to you with it, you'll need it.
You have taken this whole thing too far and still don't realise your threats are quite boring and no one cares, and myself and Liam are just laughing at you making yourself look foolish.
Again you really have taken it too far and need to chill and actually read what has been put properly before trying to throw youre weight about. I will be at the Legends show down your way in August, by all means if you attend see me and we will talk then, i dont want any trouble same as Liam im a pro fighter and thats all i care about, but i am not afraid to meet you so if youre there then see me then.
lol it looked as if i knew what andybc was going to write.I was actually going to say if this carries on carlton leech will pop up on celebrity big brother he is everywhere could be the male version of jade goody.By the way andybc may fight at 55kg but i bet he has to carry his balls round in a wheelbarrow ......well said mate
Andy, feel free to drop me a line and I will meet with you, I am not making threats, so read the posts correctly, I will continue to advertise my friends show as much as I want despite whatever crap is posted on here BY YOU OR ANYONE ELSE, so lets not go down the same road again, if you don't like what I post then why bother reading it. Simple really, don't you think so! That was not a question but a statement, so does not need a reply, unless like the others on here, you want to get in the last word!
Myself and Carlton will be at the Cage Brawl event this Sunday 30th March, before going onto his show at Angels gentlemans club for his show, where we will have an after party.
Here's my statement. I read it to laugh, end of really. Youre it was not a threat line? ok it wasnt?? in your insane world but in everyone elses eye's was taken the other way, either way im not bothered. i UNLIKE YOURSELF have read every post carefully, and take them as threats, but one's that make me laugh.I or no one else has said for you not to promote your "friends" as you call them shows but the way in which you promote them is another thing. I havent replyed cause need the last word as everyone can read and see i dont give a fuck, reply is to acknowledge you.
It appears you and your cousin have a little crusade going, well to the prat wonder and boy joke. I am calling it a day, until we meet in person I have nothing further to say to either of you, got no time for web warriors or to argue with knobbers on an internet forum.
I am here to promote my friend and that is what I shall do -
THE RISE OF THE FOOTSOLDIER TOUR CONTINUES THIS SUNDAY 30th March AT THE ANGELS GENTLEMANS CLUB IN BRACKNELL, TICKETS ARE SOLD OUT BUT IT IS SURE TO BE YET ANOTHER SUCCESS.
BUT NOT BEFORE -
Carlton and myself will also be at the CAGE BRAWL event as promoted by BIKMA at the Bracknell Liesure Center, doors open at 16:30, event starts at 17:30.
Fantastic line up, Muay Thai, Kickboxing and MMA.
Best wishes to all concerned in a sucessful show and promotion!
may a man in his late 30s(as age seems to be an issue)ask if the advertising on the ax website has been a sucssess and has many tickets been sold to ax users or from word of mouth through ax users?
1 not a web warrior, check my profile you knob you will see how many times ive been on here. 2 no crusade keep thinking that way dont give a toss in the slightest and no "knobber"? as you put it, good word to make up though. and 3 i can honestly say i never want to meet you in person.
I note that Ax's membership (registered users) hovers around the 9000 mark. That number is spread over the international demographic and as such probably has a UK specific membership in the region of 3000 (AX attracts and is marketed towards the english speaking). Of those lets assume a 50/50 split north and south. The target audience is a maximum of 1500.
However; those 1500 have their own circle of contacts and as such the target group grow expenentially.
Id be interested in knowing the success of the campaign as it possibly affords a viable platform for marketing.
Clearly the adverse reaction and downward spiralling dialogue will have created a potential downturn in interest....or an upturn depending upon your particular feelings and that must be factored in.
cheaper than paying for a banner, where is the loophole for advertising things like this but not being allowed to sell kit etc. could you say big show at my garage this weekend featuring myself on a stall selling gloves
i suppose the point been dave is with the figures you have just given us and as you pointed out the mostly negative reaction towards the type of people on these shows saatchi and saatchi wont be calling tony any time soon
I'm seriously thinking about starting my own tour, it's either called "Rise Of the Fireplace salesman" or "Rise of the Sex Tourist".
Who's coming, it's only £15 per head, I'll mostly be talking shit and I've already had some positive interest for celebrity appearances including Danny from Hearsay and Michelle Marsh.
Sorry guys, just had Michelle Marsh call off, doesn't think it will advance her career. I'm happy to confirm Michelle McManus will be her replacement. In light of this, I'll be dropping ticket prices to £12.50.
was having bit of light hearted fun as iam disabled myself was plying it cost paul a fortune in divorce cos she had a new leg for different occasions instead of shoes... not taking the piss out of fat people which is in my view not very funny ....
pls , dont get so sensitive pingu - you started a thread on the 10th march called fast food society in which there is a photo of an overweight black man eating an enormous burger and a picture of sandy called sandy mc fat bastard.
My mum had her leg amputated about a year ago. Paul mc Cartney has been sniffing round her ever since and if Treasure island is on panto this xmas, she is in with a shout, if only i can find a fckin parrot.
I say these kind of things to her face.She laughs.
I never got sh1tty with you about your swiss army leg thing.
Its how you look at things in life, why does everyone have to be so pc? I went to america at xmas and put on a stone of lard in a week, beer and pies mate. So i trained like a b4stard and dieted well and lost it in a month. I would say that 90% of western obesity is a lifestyle choice - not a congenital handicap. I treat people how i want to be treated and a bit of rib tickling is not going to bring about the end of the world now is it?
If i have offended you or anyone pingu i'm sorry, ok.
no worries hawkman forget about earlier post ok ... i have a laugh and a joke ok even about myself and my disability as sandy will vouch check out quality party piece thread.. just that fat people who tend to get the brunt and its not always there fault... not offended ok hawkman eye eye captain
nice to see you have kissed and made up you started to sound like a pair of south east london gangsters for a minute there.I didnt want to get involved ....besides my belly might of got in the way
Maybe a few bodies on here should go to the doctors for Bi Polor Disorder...Banging out posts under fake names etc, at least have the heart/courage/nuts (Call it what you want) to have your say and show the world who you are!
Remember I started this post in order to advertise a person who is out in the world making his own way on his own back, people became abusive/rude and started throwing crap in my direction, and didn't like it when I retaliated, tough shite, at least I do not pretend to be who I am not or what I am not, a persons credentials do not make them who they are, nor do their words...I have a saying "Don't tell me, show me!" I gave respect even in the face of blatent abuse, but I only give respect to those who deserve it and clearly, a few of you do not!
The proof is in the eating of the pudding, those who were the most abusive were given the chance to meet the likes of Jodie, Carlton, Dave and myself, all I have heard is excuse after excuse, which tells me alot about those people, regardless of what they have achieved in the Martial Arts world or ring. I could not give a monkeys, the world is bigger than any Martial Art, fighter, club, fight record, how strong they are, who they spar with ect etc.
I've personally seen alot of Martial Arts students/instructors and fighters crumble under pressure on the doors and streets, worked with a few people who I could name, who hid in the toilets when it has gone off and left their friends to fend for themselves!
But I never came on here to cause an issue, but at the same time, I would not tolerate crap in person and did not on here, however, I am well and truly past arguing with web warriors and posters who have two profiles.....Very sad indeed!
Regardless of the pathetic posts/posters on here, this has worked, therefore achived what I set out to do - advertise.
Carlton will be appearing at many more venues including future Muay Thai/Martial Arts events and shows, please feel free to come and meet the man himself, if you don't want to, then don't come over, or bother posting your abuse or negative views on here, that is about as much use as chocolate teapot, the chance is there to have your say in person if you feel that strongly and need to have your say!
Whats wrong with ripping the piss out of fat people, they ( or should I say the majority of them), inflict it on theirselves, they deserve the piss taking out of them, maybe they'll stop fillng their fat fucking cake holes for a while and lose weight, they're drain on the Nhs etc, it's like saying don't take the piss out of junkies !!!!!!
Besides if we stop taking the piss out of fat people I'll have nothing what so ever to say to the gaffer or my older brother.... or alot of other people I know ;-)
tony namedropper hayes please dont be like that we love you really its just in the north of england we arent intrested in these sort of shows or films or even celebs who are famous for been famous.I mean we have only just discovered electricity and the wheel up here last week so forgive us for our little bit of lighthearted humour of wich your fragile ego took the wrong way.so heres an apology and hope you get into the swing of things because looking at some of your posts there is a normal human in there somewhere......now give us a cuddle and lets agree to disagree
if you implying this annonymous posters are me or andy you are severley mistaken if iv got something to say i say it as you have already seen....i will say once again and this time make it real clear so you dont keep going on about it.....id rather sit in a room watching cilla black giving jim bowen head while rik waller gives her dry anal than meet you, jodie marsh or callum best!
lol, OK, that is fine with me,I won't lose any sleep over it and I am sure the others will not either! Damn we missed our chance to meet a real celeb :-(
But here is my final lesson for you young man -
It should have been, "If you are implying" or "If you're implying" Not "If you implying"
And it is "I've" not "Iv"
The same applies to "I'd" which is the correct way not "id" as you have written above!
Thanks for another worthwhile post Liam, again proving you are about as mature as a day old piece of chedder cheese!
Speaking of which I am off for a sarnie and a cuppa while watching The Godfather Trilogy.
Oh my god you really don't ever read a post and understand it do you?? Im fucking sick of saying that neither me or Liam have made any comment at all about Dave Courntney or Carlton but yet you go on again and put this (plus loads of other pointless wank)
The proof is in the eating of the pudding, those who were the most abusive were given the chance to meet the likes of Jodie, Carlton, Dave and myself, all I have heard is excuse after excuse, which tells me alot about those people, regardless of what they have achieved in the Martial Arts world or ring. I could not give a monkeys, the world is bigger than any Martial Art, fighter, club, fight record, how strong they are, who they spar with ect etc.
Never have we given an excuse about not meeting you we plain and simple do not ever wish to meet such a man as yourself and thats how it is. As far as meeting Dave or Carlton that would be fine cause as i have stated to you hundreds of fucking times you retard, i have no issue with them, what they have done past or present, or the film that has been done, in fact i have heard that is is very good and im pretty sure i will watch it at some point, my 1 and only problem with the whole thing is/was that i disagree with it been promoted on this website inparticular due to the number of children that come on here. I dont think it promotes life in a fantastic way to them, and im pretty sure that Dave or Carlton wouldnt want there own kids getting involved in the things that they used to do back in the day, and that is a fact. My point is (and gunna sound like an old man now) do you not watch the news?? Just the other day there was 7 young children aged between 13-17 years old in London stabbed and killed, do you think that is something that should be an everyday thing to happen?? cause it isn't but it does nowadays, its a joke. There is already enough trouble and problems out there as it is with out a young en reading all this and seeing you gloryfy it up to promote a show, based on what someone used to be like. It has an audience and as i say i will be watching it one day but i personally think it could have been promoted by you another way other than the whole, GANGSTER,HOOLIGAN part of it.
Seriously Tony read what i put carefully and try to understand what my point of view is will ya please??
As far as you suggesting that we are the other folk on here slagging you, well you should blattently no that it isnt us seen as we happily put our views/oppinions as ourselfs which you have seen for yourself.
As far as all youre other silly comments, well id much rather be me living my life than you in your made up little lifestyle, i mean for godsake do you really think that any of these people that you keep name dropping give a shit about you??lol. Get real and a life.
You talk about Carlton as a man making his own way on his own back yeah?? Agree'd no bout about it. But that is just the same as me, Liam or any other fighter, or actor or whatever you do. Everbody makes there own destiny, we choose to fight for a living which we love and despite whether you care and respect that or not we are fucking shit hot at it and it and weve made some great friends with alot of people through it. We have our family and friends support us the best training we can get, spend a hell of alot of money (espeic Liam) travelling to Thailand to train with and fight the best, which we do, and we win so to be fair we hav alot to be proud of. You on the other hand dont. Neither of us have or ever will run away and leave our friends to get a kicking as you mention about someone else earlier, or will back down from anyone. I never want to fight outside of the ring, there is no need for it, its just mindless crap, but if i have no choice, ie someone attacking me or constant dissrespect then its on and one of us is leaving in a bad way it as simple as that, and so far so good its never been me.
Now lets just end this between us right now and like this. I dont like you, you dont like me, thats obvious. But it is only because of reasons mentioned above and cause you never read and understand. So this is where it ends i dont want a slagging match with you on internet, you call me a webwarrior but are you not the same?? afterall you are give me abuse too yeah? so if the shoe fits so to speak.... So due to the not wanting a slagging match lets just leave it now. Again just to put things straight seen as you seem not to understand. I am not scared of meeting you, not in the fucking slightest, just i don't wish to, i no alot of people who no you, and no of you and none of them like you either and have told me stuff about you which makes me dislike you more and never want to be in the samr area code as someone like yu never mind the same room, so you go on your way and good luck with the promotions, i do mean that, and im glad its going so well, i just hope no kids that read it think it sounds like a good thing to get into. You go your way and carry on with your pathetic meanigless life and ill go on mine and win myself some more titles, and meet some more new friends through the fantastic sport i do and love. Peace..
lol Rob, not a chance mate, im pretty sure he will be back on soon saying the same old anyway so dont no why ive even bothered. Hows tricks mate?? y6ou all good?
Lol, good one Graham... Fuck me i think Colin is gunna struggle to make 55, Tony would have to chop himself right down, he is massive but in a tourny anything could happen,lol. Are bricks allowed though?? Hows training going lad??
when it turns to pointing out spelling mistakes and grammer its a bad state of affairs tony! really scrapping the barrel mate. these are suposed to be light hearted!
cillas always up for a bit of head game, waller looks game but he must have a right magic wand on him if he can pork sword her up the wrongun and get past that belly, maybe bully could hold his belly up for him. might be summat like this.
Yeah I seen Colin on Leeds Town Hall DVD from 2006 Vs Alix James. He's a big lad for to make 55Kg!! Trying to get to 55Kg for him will be a killer, but all the best to him, and kudos for even attempting it.
He'll have to get on the Peter Kay diet, "Detox, Detox - drink your own piss and loose 14 stone in a day!!".......lol
Training going well, it's like just over 4 weeks away, and I sit here and wish it was sooner, but then again I think nah I wish it was 5 or 6 weeks so I can get just that little bit more in beforehand....lol
Could do with the Event being end of year, so I could get a couple of more fights in beforehand as due to one thing or another I have only had 2 fights in like 3 years :-( Hell I had 8 fights in my first 14 months training.....lol
It'll be a laugh either way - the draw will be exciting though.
Hey that's the shortened version......I'm sure there was more he wanted to say but the flames coming from his fingers and the keybard was beginning to melt the bloody thing Ha Ha
How funny, I got past the first line and fell asleep, not once, but five times!
Further proof of what a web warrior you are, you got too much to say, get out more mate!
First you wanted to meet up, then you didn't, but you want to bang out an essay and expect me to read it, get real and wake up, I'll not waste my time with you!
As for pointing out the spelling mistakes it was done in jest, sarcasm, a joke etc etc.
Oh and Paulinthailand, how funny was your post on here. Pure gold my lad!
Now children, if you cannot play nicely, I will have to smack your backsides ;-)
Ciao for now my lil friends (Got that from Scarface, just off now to pretend I am friends with a real celeb, like Liam lol)
the pictures posted by liam r jim bowen cilla etc the far right one is that andybc when hes not in training :)
How could you say that thai_tillidie? Don't you know Andy would never be seen dead with a haircut like that!! :-P
Hey c'mon Neil, this has definately got to be one of the funniest threads in ages. The other night I read it all for the first time, oh the hilarity.....lol
It is a funny thread MTK, I assure you that outside of promoting my friends shows and defending them against the abuse, allegations etc from those who do not know them or the entire situation, to me it is all banter and a good way to pass a few minutes of the day, so without further delay -
GET YOURTICKETS NOW-DONT MISS OUT.
I'll be at a Boxing promotion on Sunday 6th April in SE London with Carlton, Dave Courtney and Co will also be there, I have seen a few Axers at previous events!
The show has a fantastic line up of fighters with 16 bouts and 5 title fights, should be a good one!
tony you arent going to slag people who pay your wages but come on jodie fu****g marsh and calumn best.maybe its all our faults for creating these type of so called celebs
pingu im a guy of course id let her suck me off at 3am on a saturday night whilst i eat a dirty kebab and drip the chilli sauce on the top of her head!!! but i dont make a habit of nailing someone who has a nose worse than michael jackson.
pingu what you on about my nose??? tony thats funny good work....but she dont date boys????? fuck off, she was banging that little div out of blazing squad for ages!!!!!
look at the bird in the background with dark hair. she looks well pissed off. i sense somone will be getting the silent treatment in the car on the way home and the conversation will revolve around "What's wrong?" "NOTHING!". Present will have to be bought, extra niceness for a few days will be required.
i think his name was kenzie!!!!! he was about 19 or sommat this was about 2 years ago!!! blazin squad was a group of teenagers half were chavs other half wanted to be black!
i remember them and what a bunch of bell-ends they were, had a token ginger as well called "Flava", a common enough forename around the shires. They had a song called "I wanna flip reverse ya" which is one of the more horrendous piles of shite to hit the charts in recent years
Right no idea who they are, but then I keep out of the personal side of things and I know nothing about modern music, I am an Elvis and Cash man myself!
Kenzie even offered out John McCririck (the horseracing bloke) in Celeb Big Brother. Not good threatening a sixty year old fat man whilst he is in bed. Though to be fair to Kenzie, McCririck was acting like a twat.
Back to Jodie, did she marry that bloke from that MTV series she was doing?
I`m not her greatest fan, but she was horribly bullied in the Celeb Big Brother she did and I actually wanted to go in there and smack Barrymore and Galloway for her, the cheapshot cowards. Wasn`t pleasant viewing at the time and she got some real shit from those two for no real reason.
Jodie is nothing like what she comes on across on TV, she is a very kind, caring and loving person, who like many people do what they have to to get by, the world is a stage and each of play a part, sometimes people get caught up in their roles!
I do not watch much TV, more so never any reality show, but I was told she was bullied, showing how delicate she is as a person.
And a valuble lesson, do not judge or make assumptions, listen to rumours or gossip until you know a person, more often than not you will be wrong, not aiming this at anyone in particular, just a thought!
Only people with full profiles should be allowed on this site, as it is obvious the care in the community are using the web without adult guidance.... Enough said!
Tony i take it all back now after that pic, i havent been on in ages but Liam told me to go on and to be carefull as i may piss myself and well...... i need new pants,lol. Fair play that pic of me and Liam is class and good to see you showing your softer, sense of humour side now. Fuck it all i dont care anymore kids go kill each other, im past caring cause at last youve made me piss myself, good work. Gotta find a pic to get you back now though ya twat.
Please don't send the rest of the muppets after me, I will never again post pics of you, more so that one of you both and Miss Piggy. A totally adult kind of spit roast lol
Cheeky fucker, too late now im on it, gotta find summat, to be fair though having no fucking luck what so ever, so you might have won this one, twat.lol