This is 1 i would love the hittman to win. but if im gonna place money on it, it would be for the phillipino. sorry ricky

Big fan of Ricky, but even more so of Manny. The little guy is amazing, and will be far too quick for Hatton. It would be good for Hatton, and British Boxing if he does pull it off.

Hatton, 8th.

Hatton x

hatton! still an outstanding light welter

after seeing the pacman against DLH i have to say hatton has a mountain to climb, i'd give it 60/40 to paquiao

Hatton

too big too strong too powerfull

hard to call, im thinking Pacman unless Ricky attacks body early and gets an early stoppage.

Hattons too strong and body is the key,Marquez shown the way x

I know these don't mean much and don't really point to a winner but just for a laugh:- marks out of ten for each of them on the following

Strength

punching power

Hand Speed

Foot speed (work)

Defence

Punch resilience

overall skill

Stamina

Experience

Desire

strength of the corner (team behind them)


Anything else

Hatton 1st strength 10,power 8,hand speed 8,footspeed 9,defence 7,punch resistance..?,skill 8,stamina 10,experience 9,Desire 10

Pacman,strength 8,power 8,handspeed 10,footspeed 10,defence 8,punch resistance 7,skill 9,stamina 10,experience 10,desire 10...imo

Size will matter here and strength i belive but its boxing xx

vinny don't sit on the fence, what's it gonna be? hatton?

Its my choice could be wrong but fun all the same xx

my go

Hatton strength 8,power 8,hand speed 7,footspeed 8,defence 6,punch resistance 8,skill 8,stamina 10,experience 9,Desire 10

Pacman,strength 6,power 10,handspeed 10,footspeed 10,defence 9,punch resistance 8,skill 9,stamina 10,experience 10,desire 10

it will be a cracker

You see both of you, if you added up, would give more to pacman than hatton, however these things mean nothing!

Here's my take, hatton is the stronger and the more powerful puncher. However in order to land one, he is either going to have to be a lot smarter than he has shown in his last few fights, or take four everytime. Pacman will look to hit with those fast raking shots and not be hit back, should he I believe he could wear hatton down and possibly cut him badly! The straight shots hatton took from malanagi knocked his head back and pacman won't throw them in single shots

But if hatton can figure out a way to nullify the foot speed of pacman and trap him down, different story.

Freddie Roach will of course know all this and will have his lad working on it, what's hatton gonna be working on? I hope he does 8 week camp like Mayweather Snr wanted or else he's in trouble. hatton's brother fights ted Bambi final eliminator for wbu world title in Altrincham on 28th march, if Hatton is there, expect him to come 2nd v Pacman

i thought some of them marks for hatton were low especially when it comes to his footwork and chin.against PM his footwork was immense he out danced the dancer and created some lovely angles and his chin at light welter is as solid as any other fighter around ...he took some massive bombs from tzsyu and walked through them.

but he got hurt big time from that Juan Lazcano and collazo.

Vinny
Have you ever thought of making Top Trumps Cards for boxing?

What about top-trumps cards for thaiboxing?

Hatton's best years behind him. Pacman on points.

Top trumps cards for boxers would be an excellent idea.

In a poll of 28 uk Boxing "expert" in this months boxing monthly the score was 14/14 as to who would win.

i seen that daz, even frank warren is backing pac man after all those great years him and ricky had together, looks like sour grapes dont it, what a twat

Hatton has some nasty stories to tell about Warren which I can't say on here. I'll email you one in a minute but don't pass it around!

Pass it around!!!! The guy's a tw*t!!

fuckin hell daz is that true ricky and frank were having an afair for 6 months until he caught warren in bed with his grandmother! ;)

me me me, I want to see the stories!

Quote from freddie Roach

"I expect the fight against Ricky to be tougher than the one against oscar, Ricky comes in with his fists, shoulders and elbows. It will be a hard fight for six rounds!"

So Freddie as a game plan then :O

If Pacman with any other trainer i would say Hatton in 5rnds but with Roach different ball game IMO !!!

Marquez fight said alot for this fight Hatton can do it,Pac man has been ko,ed twice with body shots,Hatton for me x

hows this for an insight to the great fight..

HATTON BEAT THE PAC MAN AT DARTS..

not long now, 24/7 was great, hate to see the preacher thrown to the curb though, hatton lost his loyalty on one loss. hatton is looking good pacman is looking amazing!

Maybe Manny can move up a few pounds and take on Andy Fordham?
I really think that whoever wins will be a dilemma...if Manny loses people will say its only cos he was fighting way above his weight and if Hatton loses people will say he was never as good as everyone said when it came to fighting legends.
A draw would be awesome!
But i dont think Manny can go the distance on Hattons punching power and I dont think Hatton can keep up against Mannys stamina.
Someone is gonna go by an early round stoppage...!

Just seen Ricky talking on sky he seems to be slurring his words ?

I think Hatton win in later rnds

How many episodes are they doing of 24/7? saw it on wednesday but dont thik its been on since. is it just once a week till the actual fight. good programme

they normaly do 3 or four but only have a few days to make each which shows the quality of hbo

you wouldnt want to get in a boxing match with an old tramp with hand as fast as these

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=632N1_RbMGQ

Dean I just spent a week with Ricky and he's not slurring his words

One thing for sure no matter who wins this it is going to be an absolute war. Freddie Roach will have Pacman tip top and his defence against hattons body punching will be key to him winning. Watching 24/7 looks like Floyd Snr been working defence with Ricky for a few months whereas Pacmans been with Roach for 13 years or something. If it goes the distance I can't see pacman losing he will be too relentless for ricky and frustrate him don't see him allowing ricky to get up close like he likes to. But then again I know next to nothing about pro boxing just the way I see it.

Interesting on 24/7 to see Roach working alongside Michal Moorer at wildcard gym. Roach always strikes me as being his own man with his own ideas. Saying that he must know what hes doing so if he thinks another voice in there helps then fair enough. Mayweather was pissed off that Hatton didnt fly to the States earlier so he could have a few weeks extra in Manchester working with Lee Beard so swings and roundabouts. Hatton doesnt slur his words does he? All mancs talk like that anyway! Reminds me of when Sky did an interview with him after the Danny Willliams Klitscho fight at Rickys after fight party at about 5 in the morning. Ricky trying to do a proper analysis of the fight whilst looking and sounding completely smashed! Funny as!

Wish he would say 'little' instead of 'likkle' though. Thats has always wound me up. Wouldn`t say that to his face mind, only behind my keyboard :)

Got my 50 sheets on pacman 24/7 was funny mayweather snr longest arms and wierdest biceps in world some hormone treatment going on there

Mayweather was in Manchester with Hatton before they flew out to Vegas and Lee Beard went to Vegas with them, Hatton now spends 6 weeks in Vegas with Mayweather to get used to the conditions. Up until his last fight he only ever went for 2 weeks before the fight. I think any more than six weeks out there could be a bad thing for Ricky as it would be a strain mentally to be holed up like he is for any longer.

i hope hatton wins, lets hope he uses his size early and doesnt let pacman settle

get Ring this month, 20 odd pages of build up to the fight. Yeah I know im a sad fucker but just cant wait fir this, got fight of the year written all over it!

They did predictions of 20 experts - only 3 went for Hatton, all English, 1 was the MEN Boxing writer. Someones already said it on here, las vegas odds makers are never wrong..

hatton looking quick as anything now but manny looks so powerful...really wish i could see this one...as for going jogging at 12000 feet..fook that , i nearly died at 11000!

fight really shapeing up, i cant wait, dont mind who wins as like them both! dont want to see either get slaughtered

Im gona have a little bet on Hatton by KO in the round 5 or round 4...

Speed is a killer..........That answers the question.

barring an early cuts stoppage this could be the fight of the century (so far!!!)

i like the both of them but want pacman to win this fight as he's the real deal p4p, just don't appreciate the hype hatton and the media are putting out that hatton will be #1 p4p if he beats pacman(which he won't be imho)
it's a tough fight and as said above speed kills but so does a bigger object moving at a slower pace...sometimes the bigger object will cause more damage at the slower speed and suffer less actual damage in the process
i see the fight as a win win situation for the mayweather clan...if hatton loses then they've had a real good look at pacman and know what will work and what won't...if hatton wins then they know him inside out now and will know his strengths/weaknesses and will have messed with his style and are even more likely to get in his head and rattle him having worked so close
mayweather's are class and have me in stitches, roger was on 24/7 the other day lol had to skip it back 4 times just to get half an idea wtf he was saying and i still remember floyd jnr sitting with his mum at a press conference "momma what's my name?" "money" lol
really lookin forward to this fight

Body shots and its like this get stopped with them once it can happen again..he has abd i believe it will,Malignaggi was fast but got mullered xx

Pacman is different league to Malinnaggi

yeah im goin with hatton on this one....id have been at the bookies puttin a few quid on if i was home!! like vin said pacman been stopped 2x before and dont think he will have been hit to the body as hard has he will get hit on sat night

I hope Hatton remembers to hit to the body.....he seemed to forget that against PBF!

Hitting PBF to body was hard for anyone lets face he was the best maybe of all time being honest,Malignaggi no is not Pacmnan but he got wasted inside,Hattons strength is the key,Pacman is dangerous early doors,Hatton has fast feet also,Hatton ko after 6 xx

Hatton tried to hit PBF to the body, but as PBF`s defence was possibly the best I was ever seen, he just couldnt get through.

In fact, the more I think back to that performance from PBF, it was one of the greatest I have seen, he was awesome.

Pacman within 9 rounds stopped due to ricky's face getting sliced open and falling all over the floor. Pac too quick and too acurate for him imo, ricky will not and wont learn, in his last fight he was still diving in all over with massive silly hooks, cant do that with pac, he will just make him miss and punish him. Cant wait to see the fight though its gunna be fooking ace.

Pacman got my 50 sheets on it

Hatton KO in the 8th, got 20 notes on it x

mayweather vs marquez july 18th

hatton stoppage late rounds

Hatton by stoppage ( i hope )

Hatton has always struggled with southpaws

what would happen if you faced East and fought a Westpaw? :-p



and btw?
what ACTUAL time is it on? he fighting?
keephearing different times ????lol

Well big shock i must admit for me ? Hatton got beat up bad, Freddie Roach commented yesterday all that extra weight he puts on doesnt matter i think he meant at that level & it showed very slow :(

Well i hate to say i told you so but.............Ricky got smacked down, and to be fair it was a bad ko, am gutted for ricky but i love pac man, he is awesome and won me lots of money, whooooop.

it was a shock...dont think anyone expected it to be over that quick and that bad...gutted for hatton he should call it a day now his punch resistance is gone.

Andy double or quits when pretty fights pacman

I dont think anybodybody predicted such a destruction in such a quick time as i said SHOCKED !!!

Mayweather will be classic fight if it happens $$$ now that is a 50/50 could be biggest box office ever

Freddy Roach was the difference,seen him pull one of Mannys stable mates out in the 9th a couple of weeks ago. The fighter had never been down but was taking a right beating it was a good call.Also think Manny lives a clean life not like old Ricky "Les Dawson" Hatton

Les Dawson ROFL

Roach is a god & Manny fights to get in gym not a lazy bast**d moaning groaning and on walk about all the time !!!

Im still shocked how Hatton got beat really shocked

I'm not!

What A mug! He fell for the punch they told him on 24/7 they where going to do him with. No improvement at all and the same old bad habits!

Another £20m in the bank but time to call it a day, nice bloke, been a great advert for British Boxing but should call it a day and work on his promotion business and get the lads I work with some nice fights :-)

darren ur telling me ur not shocked he got destroyed in 2rnds ? if not m8 hope u went to the bookies ;)

cant understand why Hatton went for Maywheather snr, the old crack head.He was never gunna get Hatton fighting like his son.,which is wot Hatton wanted

is it the fighter or the trainers fault if the the fighter fights shite

no one expected a complete white wash scandal KO like that...no-one predicted it on here or anyone i spoke to, dont care what anyone says defo a big SHOCK

he does look like some crackhead also !!!

if both prepare 100% correctly the trainer but if fighter doesnt the fighter is to blame if he doesnt train correctly & doesnt listen to the corner "cheat in the gym shows in the ring"

mayweather senior said he told him NOT to be aggresive dummy shots see what he counters with but went on him like a drunk on a kebab and got leathered BIGTIME

Roach predicted rd3 ko not far out ay

Hes better than Angelo Dundee IMO

lol Deano,ive found drunk with kebab works for me

Gutted he lost.

i still think the winner of marquez vs PBF will show the limitations pacman has he didnt do anything diffrent than what he normally does but hatton completely took no notice of what he learnt in the gym and the finishing punch wasnt a clever piece of work like PBFS hook against hatton was it was a leading back hand shot thrown from behind the hip in other words a sucker punch. time for hatton to call it a day not a bad career after all defo a top 5 british fighter ever

like to see him end with witter and shut him up once and for all then thats it.

yeah good call whitter,seen him beat my mate Bozy at the Derngate Northampton
the ref stopped the fight 4th rd due to cuts.Bozy also beat Hattons brother
and Ricky was rude to Bozy.Bozy is a true English warrior.
Hatton v Whitter good call

I'm with fatandbald on this, they had been on TV practicing that very shot for weeks, jab and move the head one way, move to the outside in classic southpaw style and throw the left with a loop. Basic boxing and hatton did fall for it.

I think you have to blame his trainer. I saw him padding hatton and all the time he had his left hand low, couple this with no head movement and it was just waiting to happen and thats what cost him.

How about one more fight v Amir Khan in Manchester? Possible?

Glad i didnt get up for it and even if they had a rematch i would still say hatton would win as cannot quite believe this result!

forget that though, time to look forward to PBF v Manny, best face off since Hagler v Ray Leonard in terms of pure quality oozing from both plus their stature in the game?

hatton big left swing, pac short right hook to the chin inside the swing and manages to duck under the punch of ricky.... first knock down, in slow mo it's an amazing feat. loved it!

Paul yes excellent last fight for him v Witter

I think that a great last fight would be a stadium fight in Manchester against Amir Khan.
That would make some awesome money and then he can chuck it.

Mark, your spot on. If you watch the last episode of 24/7 theres actually a clip where Hatton, Floyd, Beard etc are sat watching clips of Manny training and Ricky actually comments that all Manny seems to do is work on that one shot and Hatton says something like "whats he gonna do when i step the side as he rolls off?" so he definately knew about it. I don't think he could've believed how fast Pacquiao was though. Its one thing knowing a fighters fast but another thing entirely dealing with the speed. You can catch or slip what you can't see. The thing with the plan to move his head and use his jab was totally canceelled out by Pacquiao's faints, movements and speed. Pac basically stripped him down to being a raw novice cos all the work hey had done with Mayweather relied on timing and Hatton didnt have the skill or reflexes to time pacquiao's speed.

I think Hatton should retire now as he has acheived all the forward movement he can!

Dont think he is not a class act neither - just the 2 x losses to Mayweather & Pacquiao where to better fighters.

I think Hatton should now focus on his Promotions side of things as he seems to be part of a team that is good at this. And they are now experienced and full of contacts inside the Las vegas scene so should be able to work through this route for other fighters from the UK.

Thats true Mick and and as atriua says the first knockdown when he threw the hook then rolled the punch was so fast it made Hatton look like a novice.

Still think his trainer is to blame to a degree. They have worked for ages now but maybe not long enough to change his style enough.

Pacquio only did what any southpaw does, albeit, does it at lightning speed.

Hatton has been a great fighter. He should retire now but money always talks and I think he will anounce his retirement, wait for Amir Khan to become a world champ then face him in one last fight in the UK in what would be a massive money spinner.

PBF v Pacquio is the one I would love to watch now.

I want to see him beat Witter and Khan before he calls it a day!!! I can't stand either of em!

I wouldnt say its his trainers fault, i personally think hatton is just simply not good enough to mix it with fighters in that league, far too good, and skillfull....i have heard people say hatton is past it and got a glass jaw? thats stupid hes been knocked out how many times in how many fights? that punch wud of ko'd anyone i think lol. all the best to hatton....maybe he can throw Scott Quigg some decent fights in vegas ;)

I would actually blame Billy Graham as much as anyone, the mistakes Ricky made he's been making all his life, and for me a trainers job is to correct mistakes as much as add new things. If there is a mistake and all of us (comparative novices) can see it then the trainers of the worlds best are going to see it. It's a very difficult thing to to change 12 years of habit in 8 weeks.

At the end of the day Ricky's always dropped his left hand "to put his glove back on" after he throw his left hook". On 24/7 it showed the clip with hattons camp all going on about Pacman's one shot, the right hook, and then ten seconds later we see Hatton on the pads throw a combi and then step back and drop his left hand 12 inches away from his chin. He should have been stopped from doing that years ago

dazza agree 100% m8, he should have left Graham after the Kosta WIN as that was as good as it was gonna get !!!

also the basic power punching on the stupid big body armour was all they ever worked on.

Shocking.....Hatton let his emotions rule him again...Pacman was amazing simple as x

lmao old crack head. handle witter and khan then retire.

won my £50 on pacman but my brother went with roach and put a load on 3rd rnd ko, loved him screaming at my TV get up for 1 more round lmao

He will not fight Witter as he will not grant him a pay day x

I believe that Billy graham's strength was you could throw any combination at him and he could "catch them on the Pads" But, coupled with the ridiculous body bag, all that is is glorified bag work. All that's doing is improving the trainers reactions, it's not giving the boxer anything, have you ever seen Billy Graham throw a punch back at Ricky?

Anyway, it's all water under the bridge. I hope he retires, Witter is not a good fight! maybe retire and then come back to challenge Amir when he wins a world title, but with Roach in his corner????? I suppose that Roach would not let him take the fight until he was sure Khan would beat him.

The thing is, this performance will grate on Ricky's nerves, he will not want to be remembered for that.

It is a good fight with Whitter cuz someone needs to put manners on the cocky
fugdepaker

well wasnt worth waiting up for was it?
and Bless his loyal fans £1,000 + each for a few days in Vegas and less than 5 mins fighting?
:-p

1. Why did he rush in?
2. Why hands lower than a Sale in and at Asda price?
and if your going to Box why dont you Gurad like a boxer? and fight like one?
he looked like a Novice
and it was such a shame as hes a Top guy !




wrong tactics
simple as !


whats next for him now ?

what have a gary glitter & ricky hatton got in common?

They both went down when they tried to do a young Filipino in the ring

Issues you have mate x

haha that was said very Yoda-like

he might fight katsidis next.....

Help you i can x

LOL @ Hawkman some of the gags about Hatton have been funny as fcuk

Well he is a city fan...that says it all xx

Katsidis can bang and likes a tear up. If he has developed a shyness of being hit then it will show in that one.

www.gethimaguardanddontrushin.com

That knockout was devastating, Wilfred Benitez-like. ricky was a lucky boy.

Steve Bunce ( legend ) this week on his show broke the news mayweather when hatton doing his final sparring didnt turn up till the 7th round then on the night of the fight didnt show till Ricky was gettingb his hands wrapped. Plus never being on time as shown on 24/7.
Thats all Hatton needs coming up to fighting best man on the planet.
To me mayweather is all ego and thinks himself bigger than the fighter, a selfish B.....d. As for best trainer in world (self confessed)think Roach has got a bigger claim than him. The man is genius. Predicted virtually spot on rd that Pac would stop Oscar,predicted khan, and predicted hatton wouldnt go to 3 rounds. We all thouht Haton would last longer at least but Roach knows better.
Big dent in mayweathers ego rofl

Yeah, it said on the live program that by the time the fight that was aired before Hatton's had started that Mayweather had just turned up.

MDK. What do you mean by Wilfred Benitez like?

This was a right hand not a left hook. love how nonch he is at the end.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oNvSfmtTeDA