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Posted: 2010-10-24 17:42:08
kulebin kahn results..
Posted: 2010-10-24 17:55:10
kulebin kahn results..first like to say worst show ever been to. paid 280 for vip table. gt 8 samozas 10 sandwiches, bottle of water between 7 for £40 each. tables so close together had to fight to get in your seat!!!!

sorry nt gona comment on the 6 kickboxing fights as my 4 yr old son fights harder.

james ogdoen fight was awesome but lost points... bit quiet first 3 rounds but come back 4th n 5th. very good fight.

helen garnette absolutely distroyed annisa. all 5 rounds. won points.

imran v kulebin....imran cut kulebin first round after right bandai top elbow combo top of head. second round imran cut kulebins right eye with another elbow.. first two rounds kahn imho. 3rd round kulebin stepped it up and brought the fight to kahn. end of 3rd caught kahn with elbow. khan went down but no count. more tired than hurt.. 4th n 5th kulebin just a little bit more aggressive. took fight by points decision.
oz man
Posted: 2010-10-24 18:06:24
haha the kickboxing fights nearly sent m to sleep lol
Think imran jus did enough but wansnt to be :(
Sandy Holt
Posted: 2010-10-24 18:09:27
whose show ? where ? and WOW cheers for Info Re: Imran and Kulebin
Posted: 2010-10-24 18:10:10
its m 30th bday and had to sit through two hrs of that shower of shit!!!! why nt wrap yourself in a kingsize mattress and fight???
even ref was telling kickboxers to lighten up? its a fight.. take off your wellies and try hurt eachother.
oz man
Posted: 2010-10-24 18:11:29
SOLD13R OF LOV3 hahahah yu crack m up! lol
chris podesta
Posted: 2010-10-24 18:12:14
khan did get counted in the 3rd from the spinning elbow from andrei
Sandy Holt
Posted: 2010-10-24 18:14:03
lol at Soldier of Fortune Happy Birthday Buddy !!!!!!!!!!!

and Lmao seriously Lighten up?
how / why was it a Kickboxing show too ?
Whose show was it?
Posted: 2010-10-24 18:14:03
When you say the 6 kickboxing fights? Does that include the 2 Oriental Rules (K-1 style ) fights ?
Posted: 2010-10-24 18:15:10
soz missed that.. yes spinning elbow but kahn wasnt hurt. spoke to him after fight
Posted: 2010-10-24 18:16:55
Oz Man
You say the kickboxing fights sent you to sleep?
Bear in mind that not ALL Kickboxing fights are like that.
On my show you will see kickboxing fights that end in KO's or TKO's as well LOL
Sandy Holt
Posted: 2010-10-24 18:19:02
who was the promoters ?
Posted: 2010-10-24 18:19:13
yes kickboxing show too, karl tankards opponent kept holding onto ropes and doin some sort of chun li(streetfighter) type moves.
actually enjoyed tankard fight... proper brawl.
Sandy Holt
Posted: 2010-10-24 18:19:23
who was the promoters ?
btw? and Did Gavin Rogerson fight ?
Posted: 2010-10-24 18:22:24
showdown 8??? nt sure sandy but im 15st now and the food they put on for vip wouldnt feed our riley(2yrs).. tables too close really had to fight to sit down
Posted: 2010-10-24 18:23:40
Chillie, When ever we put VIP tables on, we space the tables out a lot more AND we also have a special VIP Bar in the VIP area.

Also we have waitresses bringing drinks to your tables.
Posted: 2010-10-24 18:27:57
wasit your show farhad???
Posted: 2010-10-24 18:42:03
This one was NOT my show.

1.I cant afford the Imran Khan - Kulebin fight
LOL Must have costed a small fortune?

2. The standard of the actual KICKBOXING that we put on is of a totally different standard to what you mentioned.

3. I put my shows at the old Silverblades on Queens Road.
Posted: 2010-10-24 18:46:24
im off to bed now.. il upload some footage tmoz..n8 all.
Posted: 2010-10-24 18:46:33
Chilli my next show is the 13th of November. Pop down and see for yourself ;)
Posted: 2010-10-24 18:49:13
no offence farhad but polyester wellies should be left for the bedroom!!!lol. c u there pal
Sandy Holt
Posted: 2010-10-24 19:03:47

and again whose show???
and why kickboxing on with big Thai Boxing Fights?
Posted: 2010-10-24 21:34:48
"polyester wellies should be left for the bedroom!!!lol" hahahahahahahahahah spat me brew out at that one
Phil Glover
Posted: 2010-10-25 00:07:05
I really enjoyed the later fights last night Carl Tankard v Ricky Veevers was a real crowd pleaser from start to finnish and Mark Baxter v James Ogden was a good technical fight too with Mark coming out on top with a points win I'm sure James will only come back better from this fight he's young and improving all the time and still a great Wicker prospect!
The last two main bouts were brilliant Helene Garnett's dutch opponent was really tough and gave her a hard time but as usual Helene's true grit determination pulled through and she won a well deserved points decision...WELL DONE HELENE!!!
Andrei Kulebin v Imran Khan was awsome to watch both fighters were very fast trying to catch each other out and when Imran cut Andrei early on I thought we were going to see another upset with those wicked elbows of his but Andrei saw it through and when he caught Imran with that spinning elbow the fight became his.Imran seemed to fade in the later rounds but was always dangerous and still remains an incredible fighter,I have a lot of respect for him as he was gracious in defeat and had time for everyone after the fight with photo's,etc.
Those early Kickboxing fights were under Light Contact rules which confused the crowd that were watching as they had mostly come to watch the real fights so I can understand why people were a bit upset.
Posted: 2010-10-25 03:51:49
We always have a mixture of fights on our shows thats why we never bill them as Thai shows! as you can appreciate not all people like all styles of fighting. But one thing we can say the top of the bill was a awsum fight and one of the best this year!
Posted: 2010-10-25 04:48:15
Would just like to say thank you to showdown for the opportunity to fight on a great show. Huge thanks to Mick and Trix for everything, as i would still be eating pies if it wasnt for them!lol. Also loads of respect to Mark Baxter, no shame in loosing to a fighter with his experience, a top man in and out of the ring. Thanks to everyone for ur support, the atmosphere was electric from start to finnish! Roll on November 27th!
Liam R
Posted: 2010-10-25 06:24:24
Showdown shows are normally pretty good and tables have space and lots of food, asuming it was more cramped due to khan fighting?
Promoter always looks after the boxers well and they have good officials too. Cannot comment on the kickboxing as it is not my cup of tea but each to their own, i couldnt have sex with another man either but whatever floats your boat i guess.
Look forward to the next Showdown show always has decent names on it Thomas McCormick, Marc Sargeant, Mehdi etc.
Liam R
Posted: 2010-10-25 06:45:39
looking at the bigger picture khan gave a good account against one of the worlds best at the weight in his home town, not many out there take on such challenges infront of their home crowd so fair play to him i have no doubt it will be of great benefit to him to take into his coming bouts the experience gained.
Posted: 2010-10-25 06:55:21
firsty i would like to say i think you were lucky to get any food at all for £40 you were paying for bieng ringside,on top of the action, and the full contact not kickboxing bouts were under light contact rules thats why they werent hitting hard, everyone has to start somewhere and after all, are the future of the sport, i thought the venue is a fantastic set up, the show ran well and the main fights of the evening were excellent a cheap price to pay for the callibre of fights, well done to showdown, by the way i was hungry after working all morning till 12 o'clock then showering getting ready and drove 2 hours to the venue and was in so much of a rush came out without any money however the promoters were more than accomadating with food once i explained and was offered food all night, as there was more than enough available wouldnt it have been better to mention to the promoter that you thought there wasnt enough food, at the venue than to come on here and slate them, give credit where its due, they done well to get a top class fighter over to our country and what a fantastic fight it was,and yes the judging was fantastic liam as usual a very successful show.well done showdown,keep up the good work,, you will never please everyone mate.xx and farhad shame on you mate, get a grip,
Posted: 2010-10-25 07:37:22
Thank You for your support annadin!!! The next show already has some big names ready to feature on it!!
Posted: 2010-10-25 09:56:10
No so much the lack of food, but the ringside tables were put together that close if you needed to get out to the bar/toliet, everybody on your side of the table and the table next to you had to move! At £280 a table for 7 people yes even though they were ringside we expected a lot more.
And once you got up the stewards were directing you in a different directions to get out of the vip section...Farse springs to mind, packing that many people and tables into one area maybe was about the money?? And we did have a word with the steward who didn't know anymore than we did.
The latter part of the show were the best and more exiting to watch...Been to many shows at this venue, and all have been great but sorry to say this one wasn't!
Oh forgot to add one of our friend is eight months pregnant and really found in difficult to get to and from the table...again no help provided by the show attendants!
Posted: 2010-10-25 10:31:58
this was not brought to our attention if it was we would of helped in this matter! so we apologise for the inconvience
adrian abdulla
Posted: 2010-10-25 10:43:10
Thanks to everyone who attended the show.

As some of you will appreciate putting together a show takes some pretty hard work especially if you bring international fighters across to compete.

My self and co promoter are both happy with the event and have had loads of posative feedback, and any negative comments will hopefully be acted on and help us to improve on the future showdown events.
As mentioned on the previous post if one of us had been made aware of the problem i'm sure we could have sorted it.

Hussain and I would like to say a big thanks to Annie and the WRSA officials as well as to Marc Sargent, Dave Jackson, Chris and the
rest of the thai judges as well as the commentators and all the staff that worked the show.

2011 is going to be a bigger and better year for Showdown if there are any fights people would like to see then please get in touch.
Posted: 2010-10-25 10:54:11

Posted: 2010-10-25 10:58:56
Thought it was a cracking show - i ve not heard a crowd so excited for ages !!!!

Well done
Posted: 2010-10-25 11:05:24
We did tell a few of the stewards, like they said they couldn't do where to move the tables to.
I just think the tables were packed in to close together, in regards to other shows we have been to at this venue, this didn't cut it...
Posted: 2010-10-25 11:06:02
Thought it was a cracking show - i ve not heard a crowd so excited for ages !!!!

Well done

soldier i paid £40 for a vip ticket and it weren't that bad, i mean theres shows in sheffield that ask for £40 /45 for vip tickets and you arent getting any where near the calibre of figfhters as imran, kulebin, helena, annissa, mark, or james. And in a s**t hole of a venue, Whilst shows that put on similiar quality fighters are charging over double for vip tables and nearly double for standard seating ??

Posted: 2010-10-25 11:11:25
Just to add, i felt that the latter part of the show was great, great fighters and excellent thai boxing, the kickboxing throughout the show didn't do the big names any justice and to have them on the same bill is a bit of an insult tbh.
No im not a big kickboxing fan, and the fights on this show didn't sway me...
Posted: 2010-10-25 12:04:56
Sold13r of lov3 everyone is entitled to their opinion, but i do know,neither of the top 2 fighters Khan and Kulebin felt insulted in fact Kulebin quoted that it was one of the best atmospheres he has fought in a long time! this comes from a guy who fights all around the world! But if you do decide to come to another one of our shows we will try to accomodate you better!
Posted: 2010-10-25 13:19:11
i just think that wiv big names, kulebin kahn garnett etc... would have been a better undercard thats all.. some1 said "they gota start somewhere?" fair enough have a couple amatures on card but to fill the entire card with amature fights was a bit too much imho. but pro fights excellent, iv been to showdown shows before and really enjoyed them. nxt time il be sat on the stands. may get a little more room.
Posted: 2010-10-25 13:31:56
Big well done to showdown, realy enjoyed it last night. The top of the bill was fantastic and if shows are going to be of this standard i will be a regular.(this was my forth visit)

As for the Kickboxers yes they were not in the same league as the main attractions but as one person said ''everyone starts somewhere'' and showdown allows individuals to participate at a very good venue. ''this cant be bad surley''?.

I like most people paid £25 for my ticket, my view from the raised seating was realy good as in sure most peoples was, maybe exspectations in the VIP area are to high afterall £40.00 per ticket is nothing when you could pay nearly as much to watch a football match for just 90 mins.

I know that when ever this event is held some people will not be happy with one thing or another but where do the promoters draw the line when inviting individuals on the show?

I for one like to see the youngsters and novices get a chance to be part of such a big event, if we dont give these individuals the opportunity it would be a tragedy afterall ''what would happen if one of the top fighters sons or daughters wanted to get involved in this sport and participate at this venue, just for one of the promoters to say sorry but we feel there not good enough'' ????
Posted: 2010-10-25 13:55:02
big shows are usually big names with a few novices..not vice versa.
Posted: 2010-10-25 15:15:20
I think we are missing the point surely its about value for money?? £40 to watch Kulebin v Khan if thats not value for money then i'm sorry i don't know what is!
Posted: 2010-10-25 15:24:30
It's true, not many big names in this country will take risky fights. Well done to Imran for taking this fight.
Phil Glover
Posted: 2010-10-25 17:21:13
Will there be a dvd to this show because it will be well worth buying the lads at my club were still talking about how good the Imran Khan v Andrei Kulebin fight was and are looking forward to the next Showdown show!!!
As mentioned earlier the Octagon Centre in Sheffield is a fantastic venue for Muay Thai,Kickboxing,MMA etc tiered seating all round so everyone gets a great view and the atmosphere is tremendous these shows have always had a packed crowd!!!
oz man
Posted: 2010-10-25 17:58:53
i would ave paid more than £25 just to watch imran v kulebin :)
Posted: 2010-10-26 03:39:32
Hi, they will be a dvd and it should be out next week
Phil Glover
Posted: 2010-10-26 11:22:48
That's great! I'm looking forward to the dvd that is definitely one fight I want to watch again!!!
Posted: 2010-10-26 13:04:30
where's the photos ????
Steve Logan
Posted: 2010-10-26 14:29:38
I wasn't at the show, but I agree with anadin that for £40 you were lucky to get any food.
At the NIA show £60 tickets were the front row of seats but they were quite a long way from the ring, No food, no waitresses etc.
The tables were all over £1000 as far as I am aware.
Seems like pretty good value for money,
oz man
Posted: 2010-10-26 16:51:04
photos showdown?!!
Posted: 2010-10-26 17:32:28
to be the show was terrible apart from Imrans fight
Posted: 2010-10-26 18:06:37
semiknight lmao

helenas fight was great a real war and i reckon there would be 200+ people who would say the tankard - veevers kickboxing fight was prety exciting !!!
Posted: 2010-10-26 19:36:04
helenas fight was good but i think it was a missmatch.
One of the kickboxing fights was mildly entertaining for about a couple of seconds.
Posted: 2010-10-27 03:47:58
just to clarify... my complaint is not the price!!!! i would have happily paid double that just to see the big names. my complaint was how close the tables were to eachother... so close if you wanted to get up you had to disturb the whole table and the table nxt to you. when asked the stewards if could move tables they said theres nowhere to move them to? wasnt about the food as had my lovely sunday roast before going.

thought the undercard was too much... and found myself really bored for first couple of hours. also about 15 of my mates came and was sat in the normal seats, they left and went for a drink in town before the good fights came on. too much undercard perhaps?????
adrian abdulla
Posted: 2010-10-27 09:06:18
Soldier thanks for your comments, they are noted and will be acted up on for the next event. we will look at how the seating will be arranged.

This was our 8th show at this venue, all with posative comments, we will look at our previous shows and see what could have been done diffrently this time.

Once again thanks for the comments it is important for us to recieve feedback in order to improve our service to the spectators and fighters.
Posted: 2010-10-31 13:17:31
I'm new on this but having attended the recent event at the Sheffield Octagon, felt I had to make a comment:

The Headline Fight;
A quality fight to have in the UK. Andrei Kulebin, is a living legend and Imran did well. He relied heavily on his elbows and this worked initially. Andre taking nasty cuts to the top of his skull (looked like he had a new bald patch!) and on his eyebrow. The fight turned after the 3rd round when Andrei missed a roundhouse and used his talent to luckily catch Imran with a reverse elbow. Imran took a 6 second count and never really came back after that. Khan proved he may not be a world number one or two but he is without any doubt genuine World Class and was not blown away like most of Andrei's opponents are. Even Dicks who looked great against a poor Bovy was taken out in the 1st round by Andrei Kulebin!

The Undercard..this has to be divided into 2 a) Muay Thai b)Pyjama party!

a) The Muay Thai was of a good standard, from the young lads to the more refined Helene Garnett and James Ogden.

b) The rest of the fights were absolutely pathetic, worst me and my friends have EVER witnessed, lacked technique, courage and any class whatsoever! If they were cars, all would be considered Write offs!!

The VIP area:

HAHAHAHAHAHA...More like a 3rd world chicken coop! Never seen so many 'VIPs' crammed in like poultry and the food was diabolical, trays of sandwiches which made Morrison's own seem like a 5 course gourmet..absolute f****** joke! Worst VIP in HISTORY!!!
Posted: 2010-10-31 13:51:51
thankyou hometruth. not just me then.
oz man
Posted: 2010-10-31 13:55:52
Hometruth spot on bout imran v kulebin
Posted: 2010-11-01 13:22:05
just to give you my idea of what my card would have been for the khan kulebin fight
round 1 10-10 with a dot to kulebin
round 2 10-9 to kulebin
round 3 10-8 to kulebin
round 4 10-9 to kulebin
round 5 10-9 to kulebin

if you think otherwise id suggest a muay thai scoring course,
khan is a world class fighter and is tricky and talented but on that night the fight belonged to kulebin
oz man
Posted: 2010-11-01 14:22:25
wainey shut uppp!!
Posted: 2010-11-01 14:23:17
what a prick,
paul pearson
Posted: 2010-11-01 16:33:18
Wainey,your scoring is the same as I thought after watching the fight on P4TV:)
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