Quick & clean ideas for getting enough protein?
Can anyone please suggest quick and clean ways of getting your protein quota for the day. I would like to avoid addatives & junk. I work long hours and have little prep time. I train in Muay thai, run and do weights (training 5/6 days a week in total)

I'm sure someone did a thread on protein before. As far as I know, nuts have the most protein per gramme.

nuts are way more fat than protein

Meat is best over all. I think everyone has different requirements too

natural is best but if you train serious I think shakes are almost a must but only if top quality.

Most experts say shakes are very important

One guy who I think knows his stuff and works with athletes thinks that natural is best unless an elite athlete and taking top quality protein..

What he recommended was about $65 Candian for 440grams

The stuff I take is certainly not the cheapest on the market and its $50 for 840grams if memory serves me.. Its one of the more expensive on the market.

I've gotten mixed stories about the other one.. Its from goat and the goat is fed oraganic and no antibiotics and hormones etc... But I know a guy that thinks the maker is a little bit bs...

so I don't know..

The best two besides that one that I know of around here are

Fat Wars (Brad King) -I take
Trophic (Cory Holly)

Other wise organic meat.. ideally grass fed not grain fed if beef, free range if chicken etc

I found a place to get bison and turkey and heard of another place going to check out.

I think we all have different protein needs.

I think nuts can be good as a snack for some, usually with other things and the fat is good fat. But they ARE more fat than protein!

So what's better for you then, white or red meat? I thought red meat was supposed to be bad for you, or is it if you eat too much of it?

I think it depends on the quality and quantity and whats right for YOU.
I think everyone is different.

If this way of thinking is correct. My dad should eat turkey and bison but not beef or chicken.

So red and white is too simplistic.

I have studied with a few people and read different ideas but I think that if its natural and organic its all good if its right for you. I don't worry about saturated fats in their natural form... say in organic grass fed beef.

Save On where I live (big food store) started getting organic in. Today I bought certified organic stake from them.. first time I've seen it... At a health place a got natural (not pasturiezed cheese) yummy!!

Tuna's quick n clean protien, tastes pretty good too. Probably the best protein u can get in a limited time frame would be canned fish of some sort. Cheap as chips as well. If not, beefs cool as long as u aint eating it every day.
Personally i think ur wise to stay away from whey powder and dextrose an all that crap, more hastle than its worth, better off with real food

I think real foods the goal but you can find protein powders without crap...expensive though.

"I brought you a tuna sandwich. They say it's brain food.
I guess because there's so much dolphin in it, and you know how smart they are"

- Marge Simpson (to Lisa).

look closely at your sources.. lots of fish have metals to human and animal feces..

It's not about which protein source has the most protein per gram, but how much of that protein can be absorbed by the human body. I think Whey is the best.

Although one gram of protein will contain four calories in all cases, the amount of protein which our body can digest and use for muscle building purposes is not always 100%. In fact, the most easily digestible natural protein source are whole eggs, where the percentage net utilization by our bodies is 94%. Because eggs contain the best protein digestion rate of any natural source, eggs are given a protein rating of '100' and all other protein containing food sources are rated according to how digestible they are compared to egg protein.

Today, there exists protein powders which digest even easier than egg protein and can be utilized by our bodies even more than the 94% that natural egg protein can be. These protein powders would have a protein rating higher than 100 on the scale below.

Biological Value

The Biological Value (BV) is a scale of measurement used to determine what percentage of a given nutrient source is utilized by the body. The scale is most frequently applied to protein sources, particularly whey protein. Biological Value is derived from providing a measure intake of protein, then determining the nitrogen uptake versus nitrogen excretion. The theoretical highest BV of any food source is 100%. In short - BV refers to how well and how quickly your body can actually use the protein you consume.

Below is a list of various sources of protein and their respective ratings.


Protein Ratings FOOD PROTEIN RATING
Eggs (whole) 100
Eggs (whites) 88
Chicken / Turkey 79
Fish 70
Lean Beef 69
Cow's Milk 60
Unpolished Rice 59
Brown Rice 57
White Rice 56
Peanuts 55
Peas 55
Whole Wheat 49
Soy beans 47
Whole-grain Wheat 44
Peanuts 43
Corn 36
Dry Beans 34
White Potato 34


As far as sources of protein created in the lab are concerned, here is a short list of some protein sources you can find in supplements common today. See how they compare to the natural sources listed above:


Protein Ratings PROTEIN SUPPLEMENT PROTEIN RATING
Whey Protein Isolate 159
Whey Protein Concentrate 104
Casein 77
Soy 74

If you've ever purchased protein powders or bars, you've probably noticed a substantial price differential comparing the whey protein isolates and the caseins!! Sometimes the casein bars are cheaper than candy, and the whey as expensive as an lunch entree.

Is there any benefits to the ol' raw egg whites down the back of the neck?

If there are benefits, what are they, and how do they help?

Here's a good article on that question:

RAW EGGS for your HEALTH -- Updates

I hvaen't had probs with raw (free range organic fed chickens) eggs

protein isn't messed with either..

I'm experimenting with not having protein powder.

get more-cook enough for three days worth and its ready to go

What about excess protein? How does our body deal with that? People I've spoken to believe it is just put through your body as waste and some say it is broken down into fat, the same as Carbs because it is a energy source just not as good as Carbs.
Anyone got any ideas on this one?

can be hard on kidneys I think..

I'm eating high protein at the moment, high fat too

I'm a fast oxidizer and do better lower carbs..

Yesterday I had too high carbs for breakfast and about 2 hrs later, just on schedual, I got sleepy..

When I eat right for my metabolic type I don't get this and when I don't eat my macronutrient ratios I always get tired etc...

Every time I am sleepy in the day I can trace it to food ratios pretty much.

basically I cook large amounts and just have the extra ready as a snack.

I have a couple glass containers to put it in (plastic leaks toxins) and take it with me. I basically take a large lunch as i try to eat 5 times a day.

I try to eat higher protein/fat every meal and avoid snacking on fruit alone (because I'm a fast oxidizer not cause its 'bad'

If I was a slow oxidizer then I'd eat more carbs and less fat/protein and would snack more on fruit alone and less on just nuts or something..

fast easy protein-unless you make it I don't think there is much..

I think 99% of protein bars suck and I have yet to see one that has higher protein than carbs-take a look.. they may be 'protein'bars but there are more carbs. But I think the qulity sucks on them too 99% of the time.

Hey mark I've just read your last message and you talk about metabolic type, I'm pretty sure you also spoke about a book you can get that describes what kind of metabolic type you are and what foods you should base yourself on. what percentage whould be protein fats and carbs. The problem is I can't remember the books name or the thread it was on. Can you help me on this one?

The Metabolic Typing Diet

It is a basic start to metabolic typing... the real truth of it, even the more indepth tests, is it is a starting point and then you fine tune for you...l as digestion and balance start to improve you start adding in many of the foods you are not suppose to eat... itcan seem strict at first but I have seen great results... A very strong starting point..

just getting the protein, fat and carbs ratio that is right for how you metabolize food is like putting the right fuel in the car... a dumb truck a sports car and a plane all need their own typoe... as do people...

the trick is fine tuning as everyone is different...

my health made a dramatic turn once I started eating the right ratios and getting the right water and sleep... I had chronic fatigue symptoms (ME) that I checked off from a book on diagnostics that the docs use... but egtting everything in balance... I came back to being in the best shape of my life.

So the book is a great start and if you follow the fine tuning can take you a long way (keep in mind it is not set in stone and is a powerful starting point to understand and reading what your body is saying)

:)

Cheers mate for a great answer, will put it to the test, pretty easy name to remember and I don't know how I forgot it.

Cheers once again

Dan

You are welcome.. enjoy

What about the importance of when you eat.
Especially post work out.

Carbs and protein with in a hour of your work out.

I have heard at least 6-7 grams of carbs and 2-3 grams protein. I know this is just cursory, but it makes sense to me.

Any ideas?

I think it is important to always get a mix of carbs, fat and protein.

Amounts vary for each person and time. After an extensive cardio workout and an intense weight session would require slightly different ratios.

Just as winter and summer do and times of day and time of month for women.

More cardio likely more carbs, relatively speaking.

If northern European and living in a seasonal climate then likes more protein and fat in winter relatively to individual needs.

Unless testing to get a base line I think the only real ways is to record what you eat and how you feel and keep fine tuning. Even with testing for a base line it is all about awareness of your own body needs and fine tuning for you.

I good sign is recovery and steady energy levels...keep track of mood and energy levels for 3 hours (2.5-3.5 ideally for most) between meals, mood and emotions as well start to give you feed back to what is working for you.

I burn through carbs fast and essentially get a high and low if I don't get enough protein and fat. Other people burn carbs slower and suit a lower protein and fat diet.

I don't think there is a magic number for everyone and we have to start to listen to our own bodies to figure it out..

Some interesting stuff above.

If you have a protein rich food source BEFORE exercise, is this wasted? Would the Protein only come into play if taken after exercise or could the body store the earlier batch for future use a couple of hours or so later, after exercise?

I think it is important to always get a mix of fat, protein and carbs... the ratios vary for each person and for activity level that day as well as womens monthly cycles, yearly cycles(winter in northern climates up protein and fat and summers can up carbs relative to individual needs) etc

Designs For Life and Mercola (mercola.com) have some good quality protein powders that IF any are going to work for you these two are prob near the top of the list in my opinion.

Great Lakes gelatin (www.greatlakesgelatin.com I think) is another way to get a slightly different mix of amino acids... how we got here in terms of our ancestors (and how I believe we are designed) is by eating much more of the animal than we typically do these days. Put a little in hot water, say with tea and you won't even taste. Make a mix to add to protein shakes, or home made sports drink. Make jello with it (some fruit juice, make thicker and put in fridge to harden) use unflavored "jello" to put in stirfries etc, it will just go to liquid and mix with sauce. Have a little in your daily drinking water. (has a slight taste that isn't great, a squeeze or dash of lemon juice - good for you anyway and tastes good - would cover it up.

This stuff is great!!!!! for joint care, cartilage, tendons soft tissue etc...

Of course you can make your own from bones etc from the meats you eat.

The quality of the meat is directly related to the quality of what it is fed as is the quality of protein powders related to what the cow is fed...

Raw cheese is another good and easy snack with good fat and protein you can get raw cheese (only raw dairy legal to sell) in Canada.

Can find in some states.

I take a protein powder called Nutrisport 90 Plus.

Its high in protein and low in carbs, calories and fat.

Im not sure if you want to take any powder supplements but thats definatley a good one ive been taking it for a few years, you get 90 grams if you have four scoops (2 large drinks) a day.