
Poster above will chase Dean for more details soonest. Very much looking forward to photographing Lewis v Leif.
what a cracking line up, have booked plane tickets already.
What title is Leif and Lewis fighting for ???
boom boom aint seen you for ages when you fighting again mate
not sure couple in the pipeline so need to get back into the training, hows the gym going bud?
i have been keeping my head down and stayin out of trouble lol
now then ross good to see you is deffo come over ! have a beer ready for after my fight !
Scott I believe its the one Lewis already holds the EFK U18 British Champion.
Shawn strange question !!! unless Dean reply's on here ill try and find out but prob won't see him for a week.
Thos really is gonna be an amazing show, cracking line up and a class venue.
Not so unusual if its a fit bird! In fact i'd have a tenner on that being the reason he's asking!
she is stunning, infact i think i even would lol
shawn new gyms going great thanks got some good lads coming through i was talking to trev your grandad at deans sunday last proper nice chap
drop me an email bud, pop ya gym address in it and training times, will come down to do some work!
Mick - Spot on!
Still looking for a few match ups if anyone can help. get your coaches to email me or call.
Mark Cooper 75kg 3f 3w - F/C Amateur 3 x 2mins
Craig Allen 84kg 10f 4w 6L - F/C Pro 4 x 2mins
Chris Oxley 87kg 3f 2w 1L - F/C Amateur 3 x 2mins
Ben Atkin 70kg (wet Through) Local Business man WHITE COLLAR NO experience 3 x 1.5mins.
Really pleased with this line up...2 x great European Dust Ups!
Lewis v Leif (What a title defence for Lewis)
Clash of The Heavy Weights...Last time Jamie and Rob fought each other there was fireworks, knockdowns and shock victory as Jamie took Robs No.1 spot. Will Rob get it back?
Full Line up to follow but Scott Jenkinson and Daniel Hughes over 5 rounds should be another good fight.
T
the heavy weight fight between jamie and rob should be a craker, after an early knock down last time if i remeber rightly, jamie was able to turn the fight round, i believe its over five this time, (i could be wrong), this would mean jamies conditioning would not be as big a factor, plus rob has the incentive putting the loss to jamie behind him, excelent fight well done mr sugden!!!
best ov look wiv the show dean! crackin line up rlly lookin 4 wrd 2 the swinburn v taylor fight 2 top lads cant w8!!
Looking forward to the show Dean , the line up looks excellent .
Robbie : Yeh the Jamie and Rob bout is a five rounder , which is what were training for .Im sure the fight will be a cracker with Rob wanting to settle the score just as much as Jamie wanting to keep the No 1 spot .
Yeah well done Dean the line up loks really good! The Steve Swinburn Scott Taylor fight will be good!
And the Gledhill Moore rematch should be interesting. I would love to see the winner of that fight against Craig Burke from Fight Unit.
Well done Leif on the win :) You can do it again !!!:)
"Craig Allen 84kg 10f 4w 6L - F/C Pro 4 x 2mins"
I might have Andrew Tate available, same weight, FC F-7 W-4 L-2 N/C-1
And, any news??
Good Luck to Leif!
: )
Dean I can match ben Atkin
sorry guys for no reply just got back from a short business trip. will email / call you this weekend to discuss.
thanks
I dean, thanks for the poster and tickets etc. I've passed these onto Chris Hughes (Head Coach) who will talk to Daniel and sell as many as possible. We'll see you on the 11th October. J
Leif - You were great the other night mate! Very Professional performance:)
Shame it was against my rising star Lewis.
But what a defence for Lewis on OCT 11TH...against Leif! that is what we wanted to rubber stamp him winning it. Being prepared to defend it against the best. Could of been a non title fight but NO we wanted to defend.
You better watch out! (No Ginger Bread Men) allowed at Kelham Hall :)I will be confiscating any found x
Best of luck leif it isnt a million miles away from us if i'm free may pop down to cheers u on :)
sorry leif, i go out of my way to spell your name wrong at times!
predictions on main event?
If you mean the Steve Swinburn v Scott Taylor fight then its an interesting one!
When they fought the first time it was over 3 rounds a long time ago and it was a very different Steve that day. He fought and beat my lad Jamie in his next fight (a close fight to at Newark!) and has gone on to achieve great things from a poor start (losing his first 6 fights and going on to be British champ is truely an inspiration. How many fighters would have quit I wonder?).
Scott has been steady in his progress and held back from to many big fights I feel. They have both fought and lost to Sucky (no disgrace there as he is the most underated fighter in the uk!).
Its an interesting fight and the winner will need to be right on top of his game. Steve has been inconsisitent in the past but if he can bring his A game to the table then I think he will win on points.
If Scott catches him then all bets are off. lol.
I agree with Mark, if Steven brings his A Game (into any fight i think) then i really do not think anyone at 67kg can touch him, not only in the UK, but maybe even Europe, he really is that good!
But a poor Steven turned up against both Shuky and Ryan Hamer (no disrespect to either of those great champs) but Steven left so much in the gym in those fights!
On the other hand Scott, although not had as much experience at mixing it in the higher company like Steven has, never seems to put a foot wrong and goes from strength to strength, probably the most under rated fighter in the uk over the last 3 years, I know as i have sparred with him!
Either way its going to be a great fight, I just hope i have the dibs on holidng the spit bucket lol
see you all there!
Mark just to put it strate Scot has never lost in 30 fights only 1 in Itali. The fight to suky was a no contest. kick in balls
Steve is one of the physically most strong in this division but Scot is acurate and doesn't waste much, tight one to call but I'LL go with my heart Scott, I just love watching this guy fight.
I thoght Rob Stevens beat Scott Taylor? Was this as a junior?
yes under 16. I have been trying to get a rematch for years no go
Dont think they would be the same weight now Doug.
I have seen scott fight lots of times but not for a long time if that makes sense. I have not been on the same shows of late but next year we will be out more and look forward to catching up.
Good luck for this fight.
got one or 2 changes to the card. unfortunately lost rob gledhill so Big Nige gonna step in and take on Jamie Moore No1. Big step up for Nige but as always Lincoln KBA run by Big Dave Walker prooving they are prepared to take on any one.
Chad is now facing Julien Come from France. Full details and card to follow soon.
you got an updated fight card dean?
Hats off to nige for taking the step up to fight jamie, as always sure nige will give it his all and make it a very difficult fight for jamie,
Good Luck Leif Taggart !!
full card up soon! just got back from copenhagen...wow beautiful city!
Copenhagen..................not a patch on Cappoquin eh!!
hmmm the big Newark show ,,,,what a good line up it sounds i will be there ,,,,,well if not then Deano will box my ears,,,,go on irish boy take the piss
WHITE COLLAR BOXING
Ben Atkin NMA 70kg v Carl Harvey Panthers Derbys 70kg Boxing 3 x 1.5
AMATEUR KICKBOXING
Regis Sugden NMA 50kg v Kieran Lomax Cobra KBC 52KG 3 X 2
Hayden Walker Lincoln 55kg v Nathan Capeness Hucknall KBC 55KG 3 X 2
Mark Cooper NMA 75kg v Coli Whayhill MASAC 76KG AM 3 X 2
Chris Oxley NMA 90kg v Steve Spencer Impact Sleaford 90kg 3 X 2
Anthony Bogg Lincoln 110kgv Andy Lloyd Black Dragons Lincoln 110kg 3 x 2
Micky Blackburn NMA 75kg v Martin Robinson Impact Sleaford 75kg 3 X 2
Lewis Fallon NMA 54kg v Leif Taggart BFKKO 54kg AM British 5 x 2
Chad Sugden England 55kg v Julian Come France 55kg AM Euro 5 x 2
PROFESSIONAL KICKBOXING
Scott Jenkinson Lincoln KBA 84.5kg v Calum Thompson Black Dragons Lincol 5 x 2
Greg Darmen Impact / BFKKO 75kg v Paul Mayfield Black Dragons Lincoln 5 x 2
Nigel Pennington Lincoln KBA v Jamie Moore South Shields 5 x 2 Heavy Weights!!
MAIN EVENT
Steve Swinburn Lincoln KBA 66.9KG v Scott Taylor Panthers Derbys 66.9kg 10 x 2
Fight CARD as promised!
Any predictions? Apart from its gonna be a GREAT Night of ACTION!
My predictions :-
Leif and Lewis is - Leif on points
Hayden and Nathan - Hayden on points
MAIN EVENT - Steve by TKO round 6 :)
Scott
Scott - Heard you did well in Naples m8.
See you soon!
Respect to Big Nige and Lincoln for taking this fight against No.1.
Scott and Steve, promoters dream fight what a fight this will be, Scott for me though.
Chad is flying at the moment, so well excited at seeing this lad again, mix's hands and feet better than any Jnr on the ciruit great to watch.
Good luck with the show Dean. Will be coming down hopefully mainly to see the Swinburn vs Taylor fight which promises to be awesome! Wouldn't like to pick a winner but its guarenteed to be good fight. Good luck to Big Nige against Jamie Moore too.
See you all there.
Mick
only 1 week to go and looking forward to coming over.
Dean.....thanks for the offer but after we spoke on the phone felt right decision was made...looking forward to some stew :)
said it before crackin line up with intersting line ups. Regis has a game opponent in Kieran Lomax, never stopped coming forward when we some in hull but regis to win.... lewis v leif ..Lewis to win, how did lewis get on in italy?
chads fight, could possibly one of the fights on the night, chad to win
oxley to win, down 15 pints of guiness and produce a mambo no5
marky.....will produce a marky special and win by ko.
home fighters to win (including hayden from lincoln)
Big Nige.....All respect to you, never backs down (till you come here and i introduce to a 'Micky finn', will have a beer or 2 ready for you afterwards.
Main event.....Steve Swinburn to stop scott in 6/7th round.
will see ye there next week........for a great night.
Any tickets left? If so how do I get them in advance?
Looks a great line up. Will be a great show.
Craig Freeman
Dragons Academy Derby
well i 4 1 am really lookin forward 2 next satnite ! fightin jamie is gona be class i meen 2 fight the number 1 at my weight the best man in briton sholud be a experence win loose or draw will enjoy it so see every 1 next sat! thanx 4 all the good luck calls from every 1
Top class line up once again.
Couple of predictions on the 2 main events.
Chad has a real tough opponent but is looking really strong and focussed so Chad to win on points.
Steve and Scott this has the potential to be the best fight of 2008, a true 50 / 50 fight. Scott is Mr consistant and a awesome talent that Doug has brought through nicely. Steve after a tough start has grown in confidence and been in with the very best in his division. After Steves last few fights i think he will be to sharp and elusive for Scott. So Steve to win by stoppage in the later rounds.
Is there a full card line up yet Dean?
Alan, the line up that Dean posted earlier on 2nd October is still correct.
Are you and Tyler coming across for the show?
ABSOLUTELY Really looking forward to it. My Bad! overlooked the line up, I suppose that's what happens when you skip through past posts to fast. Thanks all the same.
Main Event is an absolute dream fight! I will be sat as close as possible for this one. 2 of the best!
I have seen them both develope over the years and cant comment on who will win.Gonna be a tough night for all NMA fighters but thats the way we like it...
VIP Sold Out.
Some standard tickets still available. Call Ticket Hotline 07816 840920.
I know someone in just about every fight..... and some are fighting each other. Looks like a cracking line up! Can\'t wait......
Trauma - Not very often do we have a card with so many local fighters from Notts, Lincs on one bill.
Its gonna be a lively night with some great matches and lots of NEW faces aswell!
The Best in Amateur & Professional. We got Full Contact Debuts, Professional Debuts and seasoned Amateurs and Professionals doing battle with an International Flavour.
Plus lets not forget the White Collar Boxing Bout featuring local business man Ben Atkins. Ben is well supported and has sold 5 x VIP tables! The atmosphere is going to be great!
Not many tickets left now! Phone 07816 840920 if you not already sorted.
Got some New Ring Girls on show Saturday Night! So if the Top Line does not grab you these girls will :)
we have not been let down before in this area, so they must be ace....cant wait to be grabbed:)
Meant to say top line up...sorry!
Ross are you bringing Bethany over? serious question my daughter keeps asking!
very long story, but finally yes, the 'smilin assassin' will be traveling to the show. only got confirmation earlier today. should we keep it as a surprise for Effie?
Have to say I think I got about the best seat in the house, Im a lucky girl.
Sorry I cant be at the weigh in guys but due to new job commitments its just not possible, will make up for it on Sat and get you ALL lots of pics.
So usual question hands up if your going on sat, its seems the world and his dogs are. Got some great press coverage too.
See you all on Sat, hope to get to chat to some of you at the after party as I dont get much chance during the fights.
well its not long to go and I have been looking at all the prodictions. A lot of peaple have not realy followed Scots progress over the last few years. And due to this they think he is the under dog. well thats ok becouse this means we have nothing to loose.But remember he has won 29 out of 30 the 1 loss was in Italy by 1 point scot was 67k and his apponent was 71k and the Intercontinetal champ defending his title. Scot was 18 and the champ was 37. Scot is looking very strong and hungry. His next fight will be for a world title no what the result of this fight and I beleave this will be the first of many world titles.
I whant to Scot to win world with WRSA, ISka, and of course WKA. this may be at differant weights who coures. I also beleave these two boys are the top 2/3 in the uk at 67k and if you think differant than bring it on we need fights.
Not long now, very shortly I will be picking up the french lets hope he dont look too old:)
Although Chad been sparring wit some of the senior boxers and it getting scary now!!!
Main Event - Doug Who is gonna take their eyes of the main event. Will post weigh in pics from today at 130pm.
See u tomo!
Good luck to steve, leif, and jamie nd nige, any one else i know and have forgotton best of luck to you as well!

Photo from the weigh-in

Sorry guys a little on the large size.

Julien Come, who will face Chad Sugden

Chad '2 Slick' Sugden
not long to go now!.... will be there later if i can get there lol! gonna be a cracker!
Good luk Lief mate, if I can get away will try get my ass up to watch.
Good luck Leif and gregorioooooo!!!!
Good luck Leif m8 you can do it :)
Well done Scott and carl ...... and Nige !!! what can say fella , gutsy performance !!
What a geat fight Scot and Steve are A class. This has to be the best fight of 2008.
What a great night Dean!
Thanks for a truly professional and fair evening! It great to see so many clubs and organisations working together.
I am not going to ruin yours or Moleys reports pics by posting anything too detailed, but would like just to put a few pics n comments up.
G M Goff thanks and respect, thanks for the chat and yes I will be making contacts tomorrow re our converstaion.
Mark Ellwood n Jules great to see you, so much respect sir!
Dean 100% dedication to the sport always!
NMA support staff....Dean needs to give you all a rise!! lol.
CJP
Jools, spelt it wrong! must be the champagne!!! LOL xx
What a geat fight Scot and Steve are A class. This has to be the best fight of 2008.
What a geat fight Scot and Steve are A class. This has to be the best fight of 2008.

The Kelham Hall show and Dean Sugdens preparations exceeded people expectations yet again!
The fight matching was excellent. I watched Steve Swinburn last night in the European clash and it ended up as a split decision to Scott Taylor. In a fight of this calibre it was a shame for it to end like this (A split). I personally think Steve was in the best shape I have ever seen him with great footwork, ringcrat, accuracy and great composure and timing. I respect Scott immensely and have followed his success from a young age. There was nothing in it on the score cards and I am sure some of the spectators at Newark thought Steve had done enough, as they announced it was a split, the wait for the result was painful and seemed to last two minutes or more. I hope Steve comes back from this even stronger, you fought like a real warrior, be proud of yourself! All the best. CJP.
Leif Taggart and Greg Darmon finalised a great weekend! White Scorpion Professional Fight Management had three fighters out and three wins!
Marlon Hunt obtaining Two World titles yesterday in a fantastic 12 round double sanctioned thriller in Ipswich, Greg Darmon making his comeback after a long lay off, last night at Kelham hall he did enough to secure a points victory and has now seen what he has got to work on before his next fight.
Leif Taggart was making his last appearance in full contact last night. He will now be going over to just Thai and all the low kick and knee orientated sports.
He had been training every weekend with myself and Kerry-Louise for this fight and we hope he appeared as a much stronger and technical Leif than that of the past in this discipline although he has always had great style.
Leif not only won the British Title fight against title holder Lewis Fallon, but he was presented overall fighter of the night. What an achievement.
Kru David Mc Robb has already agreed Leifs next fight (Thai) towards the end of this year!
Lewis came out of the fight with an unfortunate injury and Both Leif and I would like to wish Lewis all the best. He is a very likeable character and we are all sportsmen and although we wanted the win we would never wish an injury on anyone. Lewis, you have fought the best, Leif has a mature fighting brain and has been worked at a very high rate lately, you should be commended for looking for such a tough challenge for your defence.
Leif Taggart, sheer class last night...... a great performance! We couldn't have asked for more off you.
Regards CJP.
Well done Lief another belt for your collection!!
Nice 1 Greg nice warm up after bit of time on the pies!
Sounded like another good show by Dean, well done mate.
Great show well done, congratulations to Scott Leif and Chad on the title wins.
Steve was in cracking shape and looked sharp bringing out the best in Scott. After a very cautious start by both lads i thinks scott found his range showed his strength giving scott control of the middle rounds , steve steve fired back and looked dangerous late on but i think scott was just that bit more settled and had worn steve down , , great fight and fair decision in my eyes , its only a shame any one had to loose in such a fight
What a great Night of Action and culminating in a very competitive and high quality European Title Fight.
This Main Event will always be interpreted in different ways. It was a split decision so even the 3 x A Class judges could not agree.
Sometimes it was difficult to see who was being the most effective. But no complaints from Lincoln! A TOTALLY DEDICATED, HONEST Team to deal with.
Congrats to Scott and Dougie, Stuart.
Swinny you fought well and I am in no doubt when i say this...You will be back and even stronger next time round.
Full Results up soon I promise...
Just like to say i had a cracking night at this show. The Scott Taylor Steve Swinburn fight was a quality fight and showed how european level kickboxing should look. I was really impressed wih Scott who showed top class skill, variety, composure and ringcraft. I hope that he begins to get the matches and recognition he deserves. I'd particularly like to see him and Ryan Hamer in action!!
I was gutted for Steve who gave the best performance i have ever seen from him and i agree he will definately be back, he proved undoubtedly that he belongs at this level.
Of the other fights i really enjoyed Big Niges fight which was close right up to the end, unfortunately fitness let him down on this occasion but he showed that he could mix it at that level.
Leif also showed more snap and power than i have seen from him before with all the same skill and mobility that we are accustomed to from Leif. His increased strength is a good sign he is maturing physically and i think he is perhaps now too experienced and mature to be fighting opponents in the 14/15yrs age bracket so it will be nice to see him start to fight opponents his own age in future. He's a real talent at Thai so ive no doubt he'l be successful there.
Have to add also that the MC was excellent and the whole organisation and presentation of the show had a real professional feel to it so well done to the promotional team.
On another note i was surprised at some of the decisions which were anounced as split. The Greg Darmon fight imo was won hands down by Greg who looked sharp yet it was announced as a split decision if i remember rightly which means that one judge gave it the other way!!?? I dont think Greg even lost an exchange let alone a round imo.
HI mick thanks for the good comments.
I believe there is a lot of fight fans out there who have not seen Scotts progression over the last few years. They have seen him at the early stages of his full contact career.
We then changed the circuit we was on so that we could get different fights and fight different fighters. The truth is fighters seem to keep fighting the same people.A good example is Scott and Steve have now fought three times.
Due to this Scott has competed against some of the top fighters in europe. This includes a top Belaruage Champion,Dutch opponents,Russian fighters and his only loss was in Italy against the Intercontinental champion who held the title. Scott lost by 1 point on the turf. The fight was at 71.5kg and scott came in at 67k and was only 18. He has beaten most of the top fighters in the UK at two weight devisions 67k/69k. Well do I need to say more??
hello boys and girls well wat can i say jamie you are a spot on lad and true pro ! and up most resprct 2 you ! fight was awasme take noithhin away but would like fight when full fit ! but jamie is a great fighter and gent and very tough challange 4 any 1 but like said b4 he aint no 1 4 out ! as people who know me not shy and took fight and thank dean4 great show and jamie and his camp 4 the fight !
big nige x
oh and hayden yo are great love you 2 bits and you actwally kicked lol you looked good and like a kick boxer ! Nathen you never sease 2 amase me or any 1 Yyou always challange the top boys at your weight ! fair play 2 you m8
scottyou are awsome you always look s+{t but turn it on when you ave 2 great fight and ko but be honest if faught like he did in trainin no 1 would stand his power scott is a legand kickboxer !
steven fight was on knife edge i thort steven had done enough but he will come back stronger
thanx 2 karen big bird moley dave jay and every 1 at n m a 4 great night x
Ok here goes the results
White Collar Boxing 3 x 1 1.2 min rounds
Carl Harvey Panthers Derby v Ben Atkin NMA - 1st round stopage win to Carl
Andy Lloyd Black Dragons Lincoln v Doug Kent NMA - Win to Andy
Amateur Kickboxing 3 x 2 mins
Kieran lomax cobra KBC v Regis Sugden nma - win to Regis
Nathan Capeness Hucknall KBC v Hayden Walker Lincoln KBA - Stopage think in R1 win to hayden.
Coli Whayhill MASAC v Mark Copper NMA - Win to Mark
Lee Addlesea Impact Sleaford v Chris Oxley NMA - Win th Chris
Martin Robinson Impact Sleaford v Micky Blackburn NMA - Win to Micky
Professional Kickboxing 5 x 2 mins
Calum Thompson Black Dragons Lincoln v Scott Jenkinson Lincoln KBA 2nd round 3 counts win to Scott
Paul Mayfield Black Dragons Lincoln - Greg Darmen Impact Sleaford - win to Greg
Jamie Moore Kuei-Ling, South Shields v Nigel Pennlington Lincoln KBA - win to Jamie fight stopped by Lincoln corner.
EFK U18 British Title 5 x 2 mins
Leif Taggart BFKKO v Lewis Fallon NMA - win to Leif.
EFK Amateur European Title 5 x 2 mins
Julian Come France v Chad Sugden NMA - win the Chad.
EFK Proffessional European Title 10 x 2 mins
Scott Taylor Panthers Derby v Steve Swinburn Lincoln KBA - win to Scott by 1 point.
Fighter of the night as chosen by Kerry Louise Norbury & Mark Ellwood - Lief Taggert.
My fighters of the night have to be Doug Kent & Nigel Pennington you guys were warriers. Well done to you both for taking these fights.
Steve, thank you for coming to see me during the show you will always be my no one mate. Seemed to be tied to the ring all night and didnt get to do my usual tour of the dressing rooms which I missed.
Chris so pleased I managed to get to speak with you at the end of the show. I was very intrigued by the way you were with Leif in between rounds. Its worth a look people when the DVD comes out. Made me feel calm and focused and I wasnt stood infront of you.
Pics will start to filter onto our web site over the next 2 weeks. Will take a little longer than normal and will repost when all are finished.
Well done to all involved another great show.
Dean glad to have been around to experience a very special night. Looking forward to future projects.
thanks to Moley saved me a job!
SOME GREAT FIGHTS AND MATCHES! but a great team behind the scenes, thank u Team NMA i have had nothing but compliments coming in by text today about the show.
It means everything to us to get positive feed back May and OCT 09. We will be doing it all over again.
Sorry Dean, after compiling this post, I read your very last post and yes the show deserves a 5 star rating from the Ring Sport World as you know I suggested earlier. However I have had to cross my own AX guidelines??? But I think warranted.
Mick Crossland
“Leif also showed more snap and power than i have seen from him before with all the same skill and mobility that we are accustomed to from Leif. His increased strength is a good sign he is maturing physically and i think he is perhaps now too experienced and mature to be fighting opponents in the 14/15yrs age bracket so it will be nice to see him start to fight opponents his own age in future. He's a real talent at Thai so ive no doubt he'l be successful there.”
Mmmm What a back handed compliment Mick,
After receiving a text of the boy himself regarding this post, I was upset to think he keeps himself to himself, is one of the politest and mildest mannered kids I have ever met and yet he still cannot escape a comment that negates what he has done and achieved previously and after many hours of extra work for this big fight.
You know Leif is professionally managed by me and that’s FREE OF CHARGE
incase you think I am onto a money earner out of the family!
Leif has NOT fought a 14-15 year old whilst under the management of White Scorpion Fight Management, which is my own professionally run company with a whole host of champions to name a few! Leifs further fights will now be planned very carefully as with all our fighters and with the experience of our team I am sure we need no directive off outside sources.
The title was an under 18 year old -55kg and was suggested by World Champion and professional promoter Dean Sugden.
The two fighters were both 17 year old (Under 18 and not 14-15)
Both fight records and weigh ins were inspected by the EFK and WFK UK President and agreed.
One of the top fighters in the country, recently retired gave Leif Taggart the fighter of the night trophy, yours truly Mark Ellwood.
So come on Mick, we all know Leif had changed for his Full Contact fight and we know why and how, ask his parents I am sure straight talking Bob Taggart will give you a 100% correct account.
So who’s the gripe with mate? EFK, WFK UK President, Dean Sugden, Mark Ellwood or just ME again?
I am sorry that I am committed to martial arts and particularly ring sports 24-7 and my fighters and managed fighters are successful, it’s a lifetime of dedication that has brought us this and the fighters belief in me that shines through in their results also. I am old now Mick and been in the game more years than you have been alive.
Ask Marlon Hunt, Greg Darmon, Kerry-Louise, Chris Deakin, Ryan Hamer, Leif himself and the rest, who have all openly fought or defended on shows up and down the country with any organisation showing our team commitment and belief in the sport and not the initials! (We have a fight the fighter policy here)
I have broad shoulders, but please don’t pick on my children!
To all the rest of you, thanks for your support and to all the people above, thanks for recognising Leif for the champion he really is.
I hold back on AX so many times guys and I am sure Mick will try to talk his corner down like he did on the last occasion.
Yes you’re right with one thing Mick, Leif is an incredible talent in Thai and David Mc Robb, Leifs coach is a fantastic instructor, we train together regularly and indeed David does seminars for me and my students because of his excellent skills.
Although I am annoyed at your comments Mick I still remain respectful to you.
With respect in the furtherance of martial arts
yours
Cris Janson-Piers
(This is a personal post and does not represent the opinion of any other group or Organisation whatsoever)
Moley, you looking in on my trade secrets re: inbetween rounds!!!
ps if u got my bald patch in any pics will have to sue!!!! Let u off with the grey though as you cannot miss that!!!! LOL
I dont wish to get into an arguement that is not mine, however I feel that Micks post was miss interpreted?? He gave leif the credit he deserved and I for one agreed with the fighter of the night award. We are all friends and have the best interest of the sport in mind even when we get into the ring we are not enimies but sportsmen lets keep it that way. Cris if you read Micks post correctly, a great and respectful response.
Kind Regards.
Craig no not at all, I will not go into this publicly.
If you want to speak to me then call me please.
You see what I mean, people are so good at jumping to defend on here.
Do you think for one minute Craig I would risk my reputation with such a post!
Mick can you remember your last ever call to me and the time and respect and confidentiality I gave you?
Craig please do not get involved in what you dont know.
C ;-)
Sorry if my post came across wrong it was not intended that way.
Take care and good look. I love this sport and will not get politically or personally involved.
Regards
Leif ..... For the record i was stood with mick all night and was part of the discussion concerning you and i can assure you it was all positive and in no way knocking your ability , it was simply a case of us eager to see more of you !! well done mate !
Cris .....you write "Mick can you remember your last ever call to me and the time and respect and confidentiality I gave you?" .. Cris i told me all about that call earlier this year , hardly confidential ! i hate confrontaion on here it gets too carried away, id rather deal with issues one to one , if you have such issues with thsi post you have my number !
Leif ..... For the record i was stood with mick all night and was part of the discussion concerning you and i can assure you it was all positive and in no way knocking your ability , it was simply a case of us eager to see more of you !! well done mate !
Cris .....you write "Mick can you remember your last ever call to me and the time and respect and confidentiality I gave you?" .. Cris i told me all about that call earlier this year , hardly confidential ! i hate confrontaion on here it gets too carried away, id rather deal with issues one to one , if you have such issues with thsi post you have my number !
Chris dont worry about the bald patch, I have the technology nobody will ever know, lol !
Posted you a full reply Dale and got cut off.
Its coming soon!!!
Dale
I don’t need your number as you chose to answer me on here?
Please do not ever question my integrity in a sport I truly love!???
You were mentioned in the first phone call to me from Mick and that is why I felt free to keep you in the loop because he informed me he had talked to you also. Therefore I see your latter comment irrelevant and unfounded?
Dean, I have the greatest respect for you and I am sorry if this attack on me has marred the whole post!
Perhaps Moleys report and photos ought to go on another fresh post so we can keep the Newark show professional and it receives the good press it should do.
Sorry Cris.
well if you have the technology Moley, can you make the grey black also cos the grecian 2000 is expensive ??? ;-)
Cris why are you so sensitive when anyone says anything other than 100 percent positive comments about you or your fighters?
I am respectful of Leifs abilities and achievements and am in no way being disrespectful of his fight last night. I thought Leif looked much older and more mature than his opponent last night and so asked someone beside me how old Lewis was and was informed he was 14. If this is wrong then fair enough but Leif did look older and i know he has fought younger opponents in the past. The point of my comments were that Leif is becoming a man and will soon be in a position to take the next steps into the adult arena which imo he is more than capable of excelling in.
Dont really see the issue here Cris this is a public forum for opinions i think you've yet again overreacted. And i really dont think you should be dragging all those names into this as my "gripe" is not with anyone just an observation made based on the information i had available.
Thank you to Craig Freeman who was able to view the comments objectively without an innate bias towards a negative perception of my comments.
Cris your passion for "your children" is admirable but i feel it is misdirected at times - this being one of them - if you disagree with my opinion fine, if you are in a position to have a more informed opinion fair enough but neither of these things will stop me from reaching and expressing my own opinion. Nor will you spitting the dummy and dragging everyone else who you can into your argument.
Cris , i refuse to take this discussion any further on here due to too many of these such discusions ruining good threads on good shows .
I have nothin more to say i have my opinion and am open to discuss that with you anytime just not on here .
Shame my last AX post went astray????
Dale, I said the same as you in that post.
I do not feel the need to discuss this anymore.
My point has been put over and I am happy regardless of your opinion.
Regards Cris
Moley start that new thread, lets get the Newark show back to where it should be!
C ;-)
Hi to you all and your debate.
Mick I too read what you put with regards to Lewis's age and thought "whats this guy on about Lewis is 17" whilst Craig read it very differently, so it does go to show that people do interpret what we write on here in many different ways. I am however disapointed to have seen yet another thread go this way.
Maybe we should ask AX to start a new board called the lets have an axe to grind board then threads would not need to be hijacked (and that comment is not directed anywhere so dont mis interpret it although no doubt somebody will!!!)
Chris I understand why you suggest starting a new thread however there are some very positive comment on here with regards to many of the fighters and the show and starting a new thread may prevent some people from reading these comments so I would like to continue with this one.
Will post you all some pics tonight to bring back memories of Sat night and all that is great in Kickboxing......
To be fair Moley, I made reference to the fact that i thought Leif was ready to step up in class and age wasn't even the main factor, i referenced age as i was under the undertsanding that Lewis was much younger than Leif. All it would have took was for someone to point out that i had been misinformed on that subject and then i would have responded appropriately - ie; "fair enough i was mistaken" however, it was Cris who reacted the way he did and turned the thread ugly.
I want to make this clear that i made a comment about Leif who is a fighter of great talent who i respect because i am interested in the sport and naturally have thoughts and opinions about it. At no point did i expect Cris to react the way he did or indeed interpret what i thought was an innocent observation about Leif being ready to take the next step as a personal attack against him and the 20 odd other names he dragged into his post!!?? I sincerely hope this is the last of it.
have returned through international time zones(well flew home to Cork) after a great weekend in newark.
Dean as another cracking show, world class, and a big thank you to you and karen for your hospitality.
it was great to catch up with everybody. right from the first fight it was exciting and finished with a tremendous european title fight between to excellent fighters who didnt want to give much away in the first few rounds. i had predicted a stoppage for steve swinburn, and send apologies to scott. fight could have gone either way and those around me even predicted a draw.....perhaps a rematch could be on the cards in the not to distant future.
what about 'To Slick', European champ, well done Chad, unbelievable to think Chad is still only 14 and such a mature fighter. keep it up oh yeah one thing Chad...4-0
congrats to Chris, Marky(what a prospect you have here, Dean), Mick & Doug.
well done to Leif and Lewis, hope that eye gets better soon fella.
also well done big nige, gutsy preformance, and it was nice to meet jamie and the rest of the guys from south shields(who were transported to and from the venue in style)
Dean, you should give seminars in the art of promoting shows,simply the best around. Looking forward to the next one ( and some advice / help when on my first show early next year)
I misinformed Mick that Lewis was 14, I had him mixed up with Chad who i believe is 14 (if you'd seen how many gins i sunk at the show you'd understand), I was stood with Mick when the conversation was going on, in no way were there any derogatory comments made about Leif, alot of praise about him being a great fighter and great rolemodel for martial arts in years to come.
Anyway... back on subject, cracking show as usual Dean, massive respect to all fighters on the night!... looking forward to the next one already!
We are all guilty of reading stuff and jumping to the wrong conclusion. Alot of the time it depends on what mood we are in when we read the post. We are also sometimes guilty of talking and writing stuff based on hear say and what we believe to be correct. So something positive may come out of this as Life is one big experience and to my knowledge both Mick and Cris are both supporters of taking Kickboxing forward.
After reading Micks post again I can see why Cris reacted in the way he did, and it was probably this bit of the post which sparked the reaction...
and i think he is perhaps now too experienced and mature to be fighting opponents in the 14/15yrs age bracket so it will be nice to see him start to fight opponents his own age in future.
As Moley pointed out Lewis is 17 so the fight with Leif was well matched. Leif as far as I am aware has fought Scott Allen, Kyle Williams, Andrew Harris, Lee Bennett plus many more over the years. BUT All fighters being of the same /similar age. I can only ever remember him fighting one fighter 3 years his junior but that was Chad. Those earlier bouts were a few years ago and also classed as demonstration bouts because of the age difference.
I am not aware of anyone else he has fought of similar age to Chad with the exception being Hayden Walker who is a year older than Chad.
On a more positive note, what a great night for Kickboxing and the future of the sport is definately in good shape. With some fantastic Juniors / Cadets on display! We just about had enough fighters Sat night to do a 8 x Man (Junior) -55kg tournament. Probably need ages a little closer and weights as some were at 50kg limit and others at the top range.
Not trying to start a debate but one of the issues I am faced with. Finding opponents of similar age to Chad. Maybe we should start a new thread about how much age can a fighter give away. Chad, I agree is probably an exception but he almost always has to give away 2years in age if not 3. Not ideal and not by choice but on Saturday night we fought a 17 year old from France. Allbeit Chad had Height and reach advantage plus a couple of kilos. The body changes massively over those teenage years from boy to man. These sort of fights need to be scrutinised,carefully selected,agreed by the promoter and sanctioning body to avoid and potential mis matches.
Mick - Not met you yet, next time at a show we must make an effort to say hello. I did not know you and Dale were there until Mark mentioned it on the Sunday when we were having breakfast.Mind you running back and forth most of the night meant i did not clock many people. Even better idea, Maybe we can get you on one of shows next year?
Dale - Any chance we can put Mick on our May show next year. I know its a long way off but like to get planning early 16th May Saturday Night Kelham Hall.
We should probably take that discussion of line, but I am would love to put Mick on if he has no other commitments. Think I just plugged my next show?
May 16th 2009 :)
Craig - Just read your post and Micks reply to Moley. Sorry it took me ages to write mine as I am supposed to be working. Thanks for the update, I think that probably clears this one up :)
Bring on the Photos Moley!!
Thanx again to the Team that works so hard to make these shows a success and thanx 4 all the kind words I will pass them all on.
Cheers
Dean
ps
Ross pleased u got back ok!
Ross probably got back before me, apparently I got a taxi back from Aarons house but cant actually remember anything, I had £25 in my wallet before leaving though apparently and had none in the morning, thats the most expensive 3 mile taxi ride ever!..... i really need to quit drinking lol
fuck it 2 footed challenge...
dean sorry sounds like a great show well done you always make a great night of it..
chris... plain old fact its well known of leifs stature needs no mention.. plus itc common knowledge for the last 2 years lief has been in with matches stacked largely in his favour... some on play the white man....
i have no grievence or dirty washing to air.... fact is fact leif needs to be tested and for me this has not happend for 2 years... all fighters get found out... as stated this is an open forum.. no one has had a swipe at lief... way you are snapping would suggest what no one has pointed out..are we missing some thing..
im not getting into a slanging match personally oi dont give a fook, like always il tell you what no one else will.... no one is a fucking thick as others like to think...
good for leif coming of age... why should he be upset... never saw him upset when he was 16 fighting a 14yr old... more so who is this new 17yr old opponent whats his stats...look at least you know what people think which is priceless...
look come on i have a lad who is 12 small for his size he is fighting 9 and 10 year olds... mentally and physically stronger its not rocket science.... he has had an advantage FACT! hey its been in his favour well done sorry if that offends or shocks.. but come on you cant polish a turd can you.. it is what it is deal with it
people fall out it happens but you realy take things too seriously good god im holding back so much not to wind you up its untrue... just chill out, beleive me no secrets around here, your a fool if you think there are... big brother always watching and the right people know whats important to know...nuff said...
dont challenge me on anything on the above, cos as said could not give a flying fook not told you what every! one thinks but i have pointed you in the right direction... and thats free of charge!!!... (oops come on holding back here)
chris you do make us laugh at times... but gives us somet to talk about ;-)
dean sorry again,
for any one else i will not respond to any post about what iv wrote, but will happily read and chuckle to myself, as i am doing now... those ivory towers are never as ivory as they same... not backing off from confrontation, just as usual il type what every one else is thinking... if im the bad man so be it, but i aint the one sneaking and wispering!!!!
Hiya John,
No offence taken mate, we have all got stuff off our chest now so lets get back to the real thing, the sport.
Yes I think at times we all make each other chuckle.
CJP ;-)

above six pictures Chad Sugden NMA v Julian Come France EFK European Amateur Title

above 5 Steve v Scott

round 3

& 4
Dean .. Ive a feeling Jag mentioned a show around that time but i will check , but to be honest im not looking that far forward yet tryin to take baby steps with mick at minute and keep it simple no pressure just yet but i appreciate the offer and if it looks ok come the new year ill be calling u ... cheers
was it just me or did anyone else notice that the ring girl held the round 8 card upside down during the final fight!!!! :)
Didn't notice they were carrying any cards at all mate. I was slightly distracted. ;-)
yeah i noticed that too ... then i was disgusted in my self for lettin my eyes wander away from the actual ring girl lol
there were ring girls there?.... I really need to lay off the gin at the next show! lol

Phil & Dean watching the ring girls.... sorry Steve v Scott !!!
thats wrong! lol I can remember pulling that face but not sure what is was for? Honest!!!
Phil - Showing signs of tiredness, understandable all the prep and work in ensuring all went well.
Maybe Jordan is looking at ring girls? Liam looks like he is finishing all the drinks off lol.
i think it looks like dean has just droped one!!!!!!!
that would explain phils expression lol and maybe the others :)
guess im gonna get a beasting a the gym tonight lol lol

Leif v Lewis. Five fights now posted, rest will follow quick as poss. visit www.newarkmartialarts.co.uk and follow the link on the main page
All pics are now posted on our website www.newarkmartialarts.co.uk follow the link on the main page. Will post again once I here the DVD is ready, can't wait to watch it all again.
Dvd got a bit of a delay but should be posted out to all those who ordered within next 10 days.
Any one else who wants a copy now its £20 please call Karen at the gym between 6pm and 7pm Monday to Friday. Payments can be made over phone. Tel 01636 605708.
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