The Fight Sport Champions Trophy

Saturday 11th September 2010
National Indoor Arena, Birmingham



The Muaythai Champions Trophy is an 8 man tournament featuring the very best welterweights under Full Thai rules. The draw will have a random element so no-one is sure who they are fighting first and the winner will have to fight no less than 3 times in one night to take the trophy and become the Champion!

Featuring (contracts pending):

Andy Thrasher (Manchester)
Tim Thomas (Bedford)
Kevin Harper (Wigan)
James France (Leeds)
Wayne McCoy (Nottingham)
Kieran Keddle (London)
Imran Khan (Sheffield)
Nordin Kassrioui (Amsterdam)
Dave Copestake (Birmingham)
Kerith Bhella (Wolverhampton)

(includes two reserves)


Other top UK fighters feature on the show in world class super fights! Lineup includes:

Damien Trainor (Birmingham) vs Gianpietro Marceddu (Italy)

Dean James (Wolverhampton) vs Penphet Sor Kittishai (Thailand)

Plus others top fights!
(lineup subject to change)

VIP seats include a two course Thai meal served ringside and VIP

For further details check out www.fightsportevents.com


The full confirmed lineup will be announced in a week or so. Other event dates to be announced shortly.

Dan,

Sounds like a great event...will the preliminary bouts be 5 rounds or will it be 3 rounds and the final being 5 rounds?

Cheers,
FB'Slim

that is one serious strong pool of fighters, absolutely anyone could win it except dave copstake and kerith bhella! just joking lads!

what about dicks, abusin or robinson?

Will it be televised? Goin to be a very close tournament, as said earlier, any one of them could win!

Excellent stuff!

Personally, I really enjoy the Grandprix Tournament format.

Put Warrington Kickboxing down for... many tickets please :)

Best of luck with this.

10,000 you sure? If so great to see money getting put back into the sport!

Go on Scott you can do it mate :-)

Scott
Yep 10 grand english sterling...

Not bad at thai yourself ( time to cross over lol )

Are all the fighters on the poster still fighting on this ????

The fights will be 3 x 3 mins. I think it's enough to expect the champion to fight 9 rounds in one night. All these guys are top level and no-one will have an easy fight!!

Russel - at the moment Morgado is out and Wayne McCoy is in. Otherwise same as the poster (as per my post :) )

sweepstake!

get on it marrow,10gs

mccoy .... one to look for !!! should be a cracker of a tourny....

well that is a cracking line up then ...... anyone of em could take it ... not 1 weak link , draw will be quality .... and most of those lads will have a right crack doing it also

Good luck to all, glad to see a sport getting some possitive exposure for the fighters

Yeah pete 4 thai fights at -55kg all amautre now stuff it al move up to 67kg and fight the best pro's no bother for 10k! LOL

Tickets will be available fully from Monday

Box office number is 0844 338 8000

Tickets are now on sale:

http://www.thenia.co.uk/whatson/muay-thai-champions-trophy

Looks mint, cant wait to see this 1

Looks mint, cant wait to see this 1

you should have been seeing it first hand from inside the ring competing for that money !!!!

Who ever wins that tournament will be hanging out at the end.
Very hard path to the final.

Imran Khan, James France, Tim Thomas, Andy Thrasher, Kevin Harper ones to be avoided in first round.

Good luck fellas

Great idea / show and good luck in it etc: can i ask? is it day before weigh in? as some of those fighters are going up to 68 and some will have to come down!
and £10 grand is Great for the Winner / awesome in fact!
But do all the other 7 get paid anything?
Because each has to fight at least once, some twice and The Runner up in the Final the same as the winner `3` fight !!!!!!!!!!
Just curious ! cheers

apologies 67kilos

Imran Khan, James France, Tim Thomas, Andy Thrasher, Wayne Mckoy

If one of the above gets Copestake in the frist round they will win the whole thing

Just to clarify, Dave Copestake is NOT in this tournament. He never has been, he has never been asked to be in the tournament.

can kevin harper make 67kg, he is a big boy!!!

I didn't word my last post very well.
Dave is not in the tournament, he has been asked to be a reserve fighter.

Dave Copestake is very fit, duarable and unorthadox, plus there would still be 2 more fights. Good luck to all competing.

and re: my post????

The weight check for the event is the day before.

Yes the other 7 do get something.


Rest of the card is shaping up nicely with some fantastic bouts! Should be able to announce in full next week

what about marvin bell from master a? thought he`d be in it considering hes one of the best at that weight. only what ive read from forums..;-]

any update on the fight card?

The rest of the card is coming together really nicely.

Just tying down the last couple of matches and awaiting a handful of contracts in the post and will then announce the other main fighters.

What a year for '8 Man' tournaments. First the 'Superfly' in Liverpool and now this. This has the potential to be sensational!

Tim can bang like a privy door in a storm, Thrasher is in the form of his life, France is brilliant, will cause anyone trouble and I've just spent the weekend in Portugal with Harper who is the most focussed and determined person I've ever met. Add to that he's the most experienced and is rock hard, I reckon this tourny will be awesome.

If any of the Scots fancy going to this one can you message me on Facebook. Depending on numbers it might be worth putting on a bus as I've definitely got some mates who are up for it!

well as long as kev+andy only meet in the final,i will be a happy boy!
2 lean+green boys....not easy! good luck to both lads.

Damien Trainor and Dean James in world title fights!!!!

Can't wait for this! got our very own Leigh Edlin v Mark Beale on the undercard. Will be a great show.

SHAUN

good luck to badger and thrasher in this.
its gonna be a riiiiite tourny.
8 fighters who would all headline any show they were on in single fights.
props to the promoter for getting this on!

that clip looks the dogs danglies

chok dee to all

Brilliant trailer..

Just 6 weeks today to go!

What is the undercard?

Atmosphere is gonna be electric

Dan will you confirm the lineup of the 8 man please ie who has pulled out to date ?

Updated main poster - McCormick is in instead of Khan in the tournament

Rest of the card will be announced one fight every 2 days starting on Saturday!!!! - will also post any other updates then

Tommi McCormick winning his european title...

Dark Horse ??

Why can you only get tickets in block 10 on ticket factory? Is all that is left?

Just heard a advert for this on the radio, galaxy 102.2 nice work dan

Sunny Hira (Flash Gym) vs Raj Sallan (Team Fearless)

The big domestic derby contest that Birmingham thought it would never see! Triple world kickboxing champion Sunny hira faces up to the challenge of Raj Sallan - his former trainer partner!!!

Richard Waller (Flash Gym) vs Rob Horrocks (Super Gym)

In a real clash of styles, Horrocks will go up against the European kickboxing champion Waller.

Mark Beale (Coventry) vs Leigh Edlin (Chao Praya)

It's been talked about a bit already, but believe me this one will be fireworks!!

i got my table :-) whos comin??

I might make an appearance at this one Dean, lol, see you there mate!

C'mon Dan, answer the question on everyone's mind (well on my mind anyway)...who are the ring girls?

What happened to Imran, did he realise he was out classed yet again?

superfly was big... this is poss the biggest show in UK this year, no fancy belts just 8 men worthy of a shot at 10k, no fag music or lambos, proper toe to toe, my money is on james france,

Ring Girls ( aint that a bit sexist )..

Couldnt the best M.C in the business double up ...

blindleadingthestupid

out classed? dnt be a silly billy

Damned paparazzi, I was trying to enjoy a private holiday!

I dont think Imran Khan would be out classed, i think he has achieved a lot and has just done a tournament or about to do one in Japan and thats the reason he is not involved.

Tournament reserve fight:
Dave Copestake (K-Star) vs Kerrith Bhella (Firewalker)


Massive domestic derby clash this one, neither will give any ground!

Liam Robinson (Pra Chao Sua) is replacing Kieran Keddle in the tournament.

The final 8 (all contracted) are:

Tim Thomas (Nak Soo)
Andy Thrasher (GFC)
Kevin Harper (Majestic)
Liam Robinson (Pra Chao Suua)
James France (Bad Company)
Thomas McCormick (Wicker Camp)
Nordin Kassrioui (Amsterdam)
Wayne McKoy (Nottingham)



Reserve fight:
Dave Copestake (K-Star) vs Kerrith Bhella (Firewalker)



we have quite an exciting method for the draw that will take place after the weigh in - more details soon!!

looks to be a cracking show dan , well done. will some of the fighters in the 8 man tourny find it difficult to fight at there best when fighting such good mates? you may say you will but logic says you would put that little extra in if it was someone you didnt know, but then again for 10 grand i would spark my mother. good luck to all.

Who will win the 'Fight Sport Champions Trophy' 8 Man Tournament?
	Andy Thrasher
	Tim 'TNT' Thomas
	Kevin Harper
	Liam Robinson
	James France
	Wayne McCoy
	Thomas McCormick
	Nordin Kassrioui
pollcode.com free polls

Haha, that didn't work well. I was trying to embed a poll here, I'm a technotard!

Ok, I'm gonna give this one more try!

poll by twiigs.com

Ok, now I give in!
Please someone with a brain in their head (ie not me) make one of those cool polls.
Because everyone knows everyone in the tournament I don't think many people will pick favourites...unless ofcourse they can do it annonimously!

Who will win 'Fight Sport Champions Trophy' 8 Man Tournament

• Andy Thrasher
• Kevin Harper
• Liam Robinson
• Tim 'TNT' Thomas
• Wayne McCoy
• James France
• Thomas McCormack
• Nordin Kassrioui

Created on Aug 19, 2010

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poll by twiigs.com

can anyone tell me if theres a train station near the NIA?? and what the name is (if there is one)

Birmingham new street mate

cheers mate

Updated poster with Robinson in...

Yes some of them are friends but I actually think that will make for better fights as they truly test each other and push each other harder.....

I was asked the same question when Bernise Alldis fought Eva Berben in Portugal (the two became good friends in Thailand). Will they really fight each other? Will they go for it?

Before and after they were good friends. Soon as the bell went that went out the window and it was a total war from start to finish - the best girls fight I have seen this year...




All the guys in the tournament are pros and I expect the same to happen again.... Expect even better fights for it...

Especially with the amount of money on the line ;)

Liam Robinson is in the mix up??? WOW!!!

I might make more of an effort to come to the show now that Liam is in it!

Looking foward to this. I agree Dan none of them will want to be out done by there mate.

Splinter says

"but then again for 10 grand i would spark my mother"

lol class.

Will be an interesting one indeed.

Simon Akufo (Flash Gym) vs Darren Bright (Kaang Raang)

European Full Contact Champion Simon Akufo goes up against English Champion Darren Bright

I can't wait for this show...can't wait.
Just been told that...Ring girls confirmed are: Porchia & Sapphira


With any luck there will be some fights on too, lol!

Porchia

Full list of single fights (not in any particular order):



WMC MAD world title
Dean James (Pra Chao Suua) vs Phenpet Sor Kittishai (Thailand)

WMC MAD World title
Damien Trainor (K-Star) vs Gianpietro Marceddu (Italy)

reserve fight:
Dave Copestake (K-Star) vs Kerrith Bhella (Firewalker)

Sunny Hira (Flash Gym) vs Raj Sallan (Team Fearless)

Richard Waller (Flash Gym) vs Rob Horrocks (Super Gym)

Mark Beale (Coventry) vs Leigh Edlin (Lincoln)

Simon Akudo (Flash Gym) vs Darren Bright (Kaang Raang)

Pindi Madahar (Liams Gym) vs Robert Golding (Hanuman Luton)

Joe Ryan (K-Star) vs Mike Clarke (Tobins Gym)

Paul Douglas (Storm Gym) vs Mark Skeer (Salford)



That'd be a top card on any other show along - but then there's the tournament....

Thats one hell of a show going on !!!

wot weights are james and damiem fighting for the wmc mad world titles at as i thought andy howson held the 55kg wmc mad world title?

what time will the show start? need to make plans to get to birmingham thanks

These 8 man tournaments are always full of surprises and under full Thai rules anything can happen, no one will want to hang around and the quicker the fight the less injuries you carry into the next round.did one of these years ago and I loved it!,I can't wait to watch this one and all the 8 lads are top class...Good Luck James France!!!

lol Gav mate i do hold the 55kgs WMC MAD World title but then again it is the WMC, so im pretty sure anyone else out there with money to anction it also has 1, i no that Bryan "stormy" Kid from hongkong also holds it? Its all 1 big political load of crap mate. But regardless of all that Good luck to my good mate Deano and Damien, im sure you will both smash it lads :) wish i could be there to support you both and everyone else, show looks tops. But im away fighting in France the same day, all the best Dan (AKA Cyril Sneer,lol) hope it goes well mate. x

I heard this show is televised on Sky sports? Is it going to be live?

in all fairness, i dont think trainor and the italian fight should be for a world title, the italian doesnt look anywhere near world level!!! damien hasnt had the best of results in the last few years himself either, being uk number three which is a good achivment doesnt really warrant a genuine world title shot in my eyes, kind of makes a great looking show a bit mickey mousy like all kick boxing shows! fighting for the world championship of birmingham!

just out of interest who is rated above d.trainor?

dean james no 1
andy howson no 2

in the uk

Paul the Italians ISKA world champion i believe & Damien is IKF world champion, actually Damien has been on a good run he beat Kaewkla kaesamrit which I'm sure on another thread you said damien will get beat!!! He also went on & fought in France, & beat Said Youb for the WMC European title.

i dont think i said that raf, in all fairness kaewkla is good and damian beat him, i disagreed with the descisions on trainor and jut is it? and i thought howson beat him quite convincing although a very good fight, the italian is not world level have a look for yourself

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0A_wPz6p278

and thats his HIGHLIGHT reel!!!!!

just with world title fights i feel they should have 2 fighters that are atleast world level if not the best in the world!

trainor will win that fight with his eyes shut!

The MAD WMS titles are good stepping stones into WMS rankings to get a shot at eliminator for the proper WMS title but at that weight there is Jomthong Chuwatthana and Sarm A Tor Rattanakiat contending who are beasts. 2 wins for the english on these titles though definitely. Good luck lads.

Well it's opportunity & Damien has it, to fight for the WMC World Title so like anyone else has taken it. Oh & did you watch the 2nd fight with Juk, Damien body shoted him all over the place : )

raf this is not the wmc world title!!!! read what liam wrote above.

its Muaythai against drugs belt or MAD dont think it is any kind of actual title

holy shit !!!! i want a porchia !!!!

ay it wainey, id love to see her fanny!

Yeah I know muay thai against drugs i.e mad wmc world title.

leave the world title bit off the end and your there

Lol ok Rob. so is it not a world title? Why are they being advertised as world titles? That's not a dig I want to know!

They are WMC MAD World titles which are different to WMC world titles....

Don't ask me to go into the differances it's all politics :)

The WMC MAD titles are as Liam stated, also with these titles someone could win it today and it can fought again the very next day by two different people it's more like a prestige. Now to say I'm not credible enough is a little harsh yeah I'm ranked number 3 now but look at the division any 3 of us on any given day would beat the other.... and I've had some good results. I don't believe Howson won with ease (not knocking you mate just responding) but I he did win in my opinion by having a great 4th round also beating a ranked top 10 Thai then winning the WMC Euro title in Paris so none of these would qualifi me to for a MAD title fight?

Personally i dont think u need to even defend yourself Damian im certain u will do plenty of talking in that ring on 11th.

Cheers mate I usually try to stay off negative threads

dont think anything negative was said???

not when were talking about porchias lol.... nout negative there !!!!

Damien has nothing to prove, card looks amazing, shame there are some kickboxing fights, more time to get served at the bar though! :)

Anyone know if this will be on Tv or P4? cheers

Kickboxing will be ace too...nice mix up..

Going to be a cracker...

Raf for a start the italian isnt ISKA World champ cause i am, well at 55 i am anyway so if he is what weight?

Damien you ugly bum lover you dont have anything to prove but tbf mate your gunna tear the italian kid a new 1 cause he aint looking good. Just as i hope my Franch opponent the same day is gash :)

I see 100% both sides of this, Damien as said nothing to prove, always had tough fights, fought alot of Thais and top uk and dutch etc, and Pauls point is well its a so called world title so should be a level playing field so to speak, i get where he is coming from aswell. But at the end of the day its 2 top uk lads fighting for a nice belt that you would think will boost them up,( but trust me its wmc and that aint gunna happen unless you smash a wmc top ten thai, i no ive been told all the stories from them but no matter how many thai's fought,beat or wmc belts won, no shot still.)

Regardless of politics i hope they both smash it cause i love ya both ;) x

Cheers mate I'm not taking the fight lightly as it's rare I fight at home plus anytime I have taken fights lightly they've become right wars lol oh he's not the ISKA but the WAKO PRO world champion. Just annoyed me to say I haven't done well the last few years when I've lost 2 fights in last two years 3 if you count my robbery in Hong Kong and except you both out of my weight division but I'm know for doing silly things like that lol, just cos I don't publise myself a lot doesn't mean I'm not busy.

Wish all the best mate for 11th and I'll catch you soon

LOL i did write i believe, ok WAKO PRO, good luck with your fight mate hopefully we have 3new world champions on the 11th : )

anyone betting on the 8 man ?

I really don't have a clue who's going win, we've spoke about it in the gym a few times and every time I think this person can do it someone will say "well what about......" then that just throws me off lol I'm terrible at predicting fights hence why I don't gamble lol

agreed there are some great fighters fighting Damion and most if not all could take it. early injuries etc can change the whole tourny

is anyone up for betting to make for a more exciting night ?

Either andy thrasher or Wayne McCoy to win!
Damien Trainor to smash the italian just because he is world class!

See Andys on form at the mo and McCoys done a tournament before and is class but very unheard of at the mo so could be a dark horse ahhhhhh I just don't know lol

Also gotta keep an eye on Tim with those massive hands of his and been in a few tournys and done well everytime, not to mention Kev, who everyone knows is tough as fook, not to mention the most experienced. Should be a good torny, am gutted that i cant be there to see it and Damien and Dean do the business.

See you've mentioned all them and it just throws me off lol guess the draw will give a better idea to what can happen

DT will definatly ignite the italian's Head!! watch out for the POP!!

Im with Harper 95%, 3% Thrasher, 2% Mcoy

still will be very very interesting show

A Big Bigup to all the K Star Fite Crew, do us proud :

Mr D Trainor - KO

Mr J Ryan - TKO

Mr D Copstake - Points

and of course..Deano Deano,

andy thrasher or james france for the tournament lol not really seen james france fight but he looks solid & with his rep & from bad co he's gotta be good
chok dee to all

could be anyones on the day....

the first chance I have had to comment on paulinthailand's comments.
Damien has more than proved himself worthy of fighting for the title.
I don't think people who have World and European titles should be included in the British rankings, they should be in the World or european rankings.
I also don't agree with 2 or 3 people having the same title at the same time.

i dont think people get the point that im more intrested in the other guy, he looks way out of his depth, we will see hey?

Everyone has the own opinion thats fair enough but a man like Damien Trainor hasn't got shit to prove, there shouldnt be any debate about it. The guy has proved himself win or lose, Great fighter. Anytime he is on a bill in the UK I make sure I get down there. That is a true warrior I would pay to see every time. He doesn't get enough dues, the guy is a credit to the sport. Hail D.Trainor.

MCOTTO If you read Pauls post again he isnt actually saying Damien has anything to prove and i no for a fact he rates him as a fighter. What he is really getting at is he doesnt think that Damiens opponent is a a worthy one to be fighting him, and for the title. I think thats what he is getting at and people are mistaking it for him having a pop which i really dont think is the case what so ever.
I agree with Paul, at the end of the day i think Damien is far and away a much better fighter than the Italian boy, i honestly think this fight isnt going to go any further than 3 rounds imo. But regardless of that Damien is a pro, and as a fighter it isnt upto you who you fight, the promoter gets the guys in and if your a fighter like mr T is you basically want to fight and dont give 2 shits who it is, your there to do a job and thats that it has nothing to do with Damien how good this guy is so lets just get behind him and all the lads and watch him smack this guys teeth all over brum :) lol.

Andy, I was't singling out Paul's comments. If I was I would have called him out by name quite blatantly. My point was in made in General terms, on a whole over the years I don't think he gets his proper dues, simple.
In regards to Damien's opponent I totally agree with you, it is quite obvious he isn't in Trainor's league. But at the end of the day don't matter, if there is an opponent in front of you just decimate him, as you well know yourself.

it is quite obvious he isn't in Trainor's league.

and that is why it shouldnt be for a "world title", this one keeps going round in circles and people dont listen to what is said!

You can only beat who's put in front of you and obviously the italian believes he can win, and will have trained hard, or he wouldn't have taken the fight. And with Damiens past record of drawing lunatics who come to prove a point, i won't be writing anyone off lol. That said Damiens trained really hard and looks brilliant at the moment so he's more then ready. Same for dave and Jay-r.

The tournaments really exciting, every fight in that could top a show but i'm gonna say McKoy! Or McKormick...or thrasher...or thomas lol. Cool to see liam in it too! What a show haha.

Good luck to Dean too, really looking forward to his fight and hope he does the biz! So skilled and a top guy!

Unfortunately Paul that is the case in most contact sports, many individuals aren't worthy for a World Title. While some are. Thats just how it is.

Paulinthailand you wrote Damien hasn't had the best results of late! In his last 9 fights his won 6 beating a champion from France and Portugal, destroying juk, beating a ranked Thai and also winning a wmc European title! Paulinthailand get your facts right before you start making statements!

adrian maguire shut up! coz you wouldnt say fuck all in person!

with correct judging i believe he has won 4 posibly 5 out of his last nine!

this wasnt a dig at him, i just didnt feel hes had a great run coming up to this and all you lot crawl out the woodwork!

Paulinthailand I ko'd the portugese champion followed by the French champion then fought Andy then fought in HK then juk 1 (you believe I didn't win many do) so a rematch was set. You said you didn't agree with the desicions with the juk fight so I'm guessing you mean both if that's the case then you haven't seen the second fight at all then. I fought the Dutch lad bad night but have come back to beat keawklaa (last checked was ranked 6th rajadamnern) then won the wmc euro title so what 5 fights have I lost?

Great banter ...going to be an awesome weekend ...starting with the weigh - in next friday...

Photos on here...

damian i dont hate you, i dont know you, that was a mistake in desicions, i only seen the first, thought you lost. i have been told that the dutch guy could have gone either way, like you say you beat the thai lad, good fight correct descision, not seen the wmc title fight. your lad told me 6 out of 9 wins where as two of those six could hae gone the other way so could have been 4 out of nine! im letting this one die, if any of you guys want to have a word about it come see me at the show.

lol at paul again mate you just ended me with that.

Adrian i love Damien but i no for a fact he himself wil tell you that some of those 9 havent been the best opponents, it isnt a dig or a critisism and he knows that, as said before you can only fight who's put in front of you, none of this that Paul or anyone else has said is a pop at Damien but at the Italien opponent, put it a different way, Deans fighting a Thai yes? for a World title, and the Thai was ranked number 5 at raja in 2006 at 52kgs i believe not sure what he is now but regardless has fought top top top level, then you go from that to an Italian who lets be honest doesnt look too great on his youtube clips, thats all folk are saying. Damien is a legend, he is who i first ever looked at when i started and thought wow he's ace. But cause i love the guy doesnt mean i cant think his opponents shit every now anad again, and it really isnt often. It happens to EVERYONE we have all fought people who are awful i will openly say my last opponent was shockingly bad, couldnt have ever beat me, but was tough and durable but got spanked, by rights shouldnt have been in there with me, but it wasnt for a "world
title" and thats the point trying to be made.

Oh and MCOTTO i never said that you had singled Paul out? not at all in fact just stated that he was making a different point that people think.

No worries mate but just for the record the Dutch lad beat me, lost in hong kong and to Andy. Now Hong Kong was a blind robbery so let's say I won that and juk beat (still think I won lol) as correct judging and all that has been brought up. So hence 6 out of 9. Enjoy the show :-)

ha ha got ya! will just call it 7 out of 9 then!

Also as Andy said I fight who's in the ring with me, I was ment to fight Bryan To again but in the end they didn't want to know so Dan had find a replacement

Wondering who this is being shown by or if it will be shown by at all i.e P4tv or Sky etc, Cheers.

Big Up to Gordon 'Massive ginger nuts' Smith from Caledonian muay thai jumping in to take a place in the tourney, Gordon is tough as hell, has had 18fts, has defended successfully and consecutively the welterweight A class scottish title three times, and has never been stopped, makes him an awesome tournament fighter..big step up? maybe, but he's more than capable of dealing with it. Onyersel!

Good to see a fellow Scottish fighter, more locally Glasgow, gettin into the mix here. Pretty awesome taking a leap so to speak. I am one of bobby t's fighters guy. I wish Gordon all the best in the tourney. I'm taking a bit of a leap in experience my next fight also. Won't say much about it but if I win I'll plaster it all over ax haha.

Mark Bryson
SMTC
Siam Dornadair.

aw th best to gordon, why do people keep going on abt th size of his balls? does he carry them rnd in a wheel barrow!

Dean James and Damien Trainor to win.

Bhella to stop Copestake.

Never seen Leigh Edlin so gonna go with Mark Beale.

Harper in the tourney.

Big up to Gordon taking this tournament on with one weeks notice against great opponenets, massie opportunity for him and he deserves it, go on lad xx.

^^^opponents^^^

andy just out of intrest do you think the malaysian lad you fought for a world title was a worthy contender for the belt. allthough he front kicked your lip off hardly world class opponant.

Jo just out of intrest who the fuck are you? or to comment? And yes he was actually, 75fights 70wins when he fought me, had just fought and beat current lumpini ranked thai in the malasian contender qualifiers in his fight before me and then went on to fight daddy cool(who is a top class fighter) in australia at 57-58kgs his next fight and lost a close points decision. Next?!! Fcats right before you try involve yourself yeah? Oh and who are ya?? If you want to talk to me about my opponents or me you no who i am say it toi my face yeah? I havent been on here slagging damien, never have never would, he's a good mate and have the world of respet for him. So shut your mouth and no what your talking about first. End of really.

Oh and for the record he also won a wmc tournemant at 59 before it and was actually picked by Stefen Fox and the wmc to fight me not my promoter.

also the maylasyian stopped Bryan Stormy kid who contreversially beat damien in 1 round....end of really

Ohhhhhhhhhh shot down in flames lol.

Yeah stop talking shit Jo Young. Ali Yakuub is class, really exciting fighter to watch, i seen that he beat another high ranked Austalian Chris White recently he stopped him in a round with elbow i think.... i still havent seen Howson VS Yakuub, dying to see it :(

Has someone else dropped outa the eight man?

saw on someone's FB that they were in the tourney?

what weight are deans and damiens fioghts at....will dean and damien fight?? and will dean rematch andy soon?? crazy division 55kg. very exciting fighters

bloody hell andy i can see the steam coming out ya ears all the way from pie land lol x

what a bell end, that was a barn storming fight!!!

jo young kinda nailed it though howson ight the guys nails him and takes his lip off, trainors guy is just out of rehab and in a wheelchair, roll him in the ring and watch the sparks fly. he wont touch trainor!

That's unfaire to damiens opponent! He would of trained just as hard as Damien! He has a fighters chance like every fighter, If Damien wins this fight, the win has been taken from him before he has got in the ring!

mr h think both at 55kg could be wrong though.... you want a bet for when they meet again ;) ???

damien or dean vs ali yakuub - either of them would make for a great fight IMO

i wondered how long it would take for bad companys very own brown noser paul in thai land to come out of the wood work, we should re name you paul in andy. it was just a question? I buy the bad co dvd every show and he looked like he had just rolled out a stip club and been on the old roofies and rohypnol. as for a rematch with dean are you sure you want to?? you've a great heart but thats it my nan could of defended those knee's better

adrian i was waiting for you to kick off so i could say "i was talking to the organ grinder not the fucking monkey on his shoulder!" but you just missed the bullet son!!!!!!!!! probably right but the guy isnt world class, no world title! i also understand the promoter needs to sell tickets, but il give odds on trainor stopping him in three!

trainor and dean both win on the same day could make a mean final!!!! (i know they are mates and prob wouldnt fight)

I'm not kicking off just saying what's on my mind like yourself, no monkey on the shoulder here :-)

you've a great heart but thats it my nan could of defended those knee's better

that i would like to see....

trust me wainey she's a animal

jo young nut up or shut up! its ok if no one knows your name! fag!

ever feel like the time to introduce yourself to me il pop my finger in your eye and start your head like a lawn mower ;) x

you know jo when your mum and dad die everything will flash infront of them and they will be guilty about you being such a nameless nonce bag, man up!

paul in andy. i'd take you more serious if you didn't look like right said fred. you already no me i was the one up stairs making your mum scream while you was left eating hula hoops watching sooty and co

sorry dad!!!

im real your not you daft cunt!

Ha this is brilliant! You can be sure to come on Ax and see the hand bags out. Anyway moving away from the bullshit good luck to Thrasher really hope you can pull it off :)

at least he was handsome and drove the women wild on all the dick they had missed!!!!

sorry jp a bit of friendly fire!!!!

i love this thread atleast its a laugh and dont get personal!!!

thats ok son. i was never comfortable with your partialness to taking it in the rusty badge thats why we dont talk. catching you wanking to mens health was the final straw :)

in reality imagine me sat on your belly pushing your head into the ground! cant wait till we meet! its a joke guy i know how these guys work!

lol. i like you!

was you ever in prison?

ok we can be friends! all the best but keep it to the bedroom hey mate!you are a cheeky boy!

lol you rememember me??? done a couple of micky mousers nothing serious!

People catchin feelings on here hahaha

i was just wondering what turned you in to eating from the chocolate star fish now i know. because you want to sit on my belly and push my head some where thats just wrong lol

i love you jy and jp all the best!

so how did you meet your wife? " well your not going to believe this" we were arguing who had the biggest nuts on a muay thai site, she manned out! i love you babe x

hahahahaha

lol maybe should just get back to the thread, its about the show after all. My moneys on thrasher £20 i'll meet you by the hot dog stand row 20 isle 13 to collect the winnings?

il see you there mate, il buy you a drink! i think thrasher too, a few things we have in common!

you will see me im like a blind gay boy in a hot dog factory so will be hard to miss!

Without badger I'm gonna say Kevin Harper....

robbinson will be a horrible fight for harper!!! as said above!

I've read on FaceBook (always a reliable source of information) that Kerrith Bhella is now in the tourny, just wandered if anyone can confirm it?!

I fought the Italian damiens fighting in 2006 and if Damiens has his running shoes on he'll smash him. he run off the whole fight but I beat him by photo finish!

For the tournament, my favourites have always been either Thrasher or Harper. As always the draw will be decisive though PLUS...I hear Dan has something really quite interesting up his sleeve regarding the draw itself (more details to follow shortly, I guess, lol).

That having beem said, I'm still eating humble pie from the last time I doubted the tournaments newest entrant, Scottish Champion Gordon Smith.
Exceptionally fit, tough, has a great understanding of scoring, kicks like a mule (fast and frequent), never been cut, never been ko'd and never been stopped. Trained and fought in Thailand for months he will be a nightmare for anyone.

(Just to throw in some trivia here...on Gordon's last outing he dismantled British Champion John Douglas who had previously beaten fellow tournament entrant Liam Robinson)

I forgot to add to my last post... Best of luck Gordon!

It really is impossible to pick out a defenite winner for the tournament.....The K-1 Worl Grand Prix in 2001 when Mark Hunt won is a perfect example, no one thought he would win and he did. Especially when you have factors like injury replacements, fatigue and gameplans on your hands....

Dougie honestly mate keep it shut!!

Good luck to Gordon one of the nicest guys in thai boxing well be hoping you win mate do it for Scotland.

but dont forget dougie when douglas fought liam he actually lost really and didnt make the weight for the title so didnt really win the british title.... ;) i should know i waited over 2 hours to see him weigh in and still not make weight...

WTF has that got to do with this tournament ??????

Exactly Bryan.... WTF wainey? Bitterness gets you nowhere email me your number and I'll give you a call

Did you all know that McKoy is OUT of the tournament!!!! just had quick glance through the thread, don't think its been mentioned.

Spoke to him on Friday, broke his hand during sparring

no offence brian but half the posts you comment on have nothing to do with certain threads, and gary no probs

Lol this threads gone mental i love it.

Jo clearly you just have a problem with me, and thats all goo i dont give 2 fucks really ive nothing to prove to anyone and will and have fought anyone, always have always will. And as far as Deano goes or course i want it why wouldnt i? Your Gran may have been able to move outta the way of his kness but defo couldnt take them, unless they hit her in her awful saggy bingo minge that is ;) And anyway me and Dean part 2 has to and better had happen, i did him a favour with that fight, by rights in pecking order should have been him and damien to fight, but regardless rematch will happen and we'll have a little bet on it right now yeah?

Anyone no who's in the tourny for Wayne now?

how much andy ;)

quality !!!

Think its Kertith Bella, thats what it says on his FB.

Shame about McKoy, was looking forward to seeing him bang!

I could watch Andy, Dean and Damian all day long. what a trilogy between Andy and Damiam and now add Dean to the mix! awesome for UK muay thai.

who is kertith bella ??? i thought kerrith bella was his name ???lol

Wainey behave yourself or ill stand on your good foot! x

Wish I was coming to this show looks amazing!

Good luck Dean and also to Liam in the tournament.

Wainey £200 ok for ya mate ;)?? When it avtually happens that is.

Anyone else betting on tourny?? Now Badgers not in ill have a sneaky £20 on TNT and Kev.

I'll have £20 on Dean James to win and a further £100 on brian posting something that has nothing to do with this thread.

Today we welcome a new troll to Ax...welcome James King.
E-mail address joeking@london.com Yeah right!

I'm looking to back Kevin Harper if anyone wants to bet ?

I'm going for Wayne McKoy to win. He's a very tough, durable, hard hitting fighter with sound technique and I think it'll see him through the 3 fights. He has previous tournament experience and will be able to use this against his opposers.

Is Mark Beale vs Leigh Edlin still scheduled on the undercard?
This is a good approach for Leigh to establish himself and give him a solid position in his weight division. If he is prosperous on this occasion it would guarantee bigger fights of which he requires.

As it was mentioned, I look forward to Dean James and Andy Howeson 2 in the future. I think it will be the same result, Dean on points again. It was great to watch Dean with his great kneeing techniques and his ability to apply his scoring knowledge to his advantage to dominate the fight in the later rounds.

80_B Wayne isnt in the tourny anymore from what i hear, been replaced now by Kerrith Bella and as far as me and Dean again do also fancy putting your money where your mouth is like Wainey has?? Another £200?? :)

That's unfortunate that he is no longer in the tournament. I will have to reevaluate and come to a new decision on who will triumph.

AndyBC I must inform you that due to my religious beliefs i can not and will not participate in any gambling. I love Thaiboxing for what it is and enjoy attending as many shows as possible. I no longer compete but believe that over the years watching this martial art develope my opinions and predictions tend to be very accurate. The observations I have made from Dean's previous outings led me to believe that he would win the first encounter and that being the result. I still believe Dean James will remain number 1 in his devision for the foreseeable future, also after the rematch with your good self.

Maybe you having several fights in a close space of time contributed to the loss against Dean and you having 3 consecutive losses(Although I hear one may have been of malfeasance and completely out of your control). I hope that your training goes well if the fight is to occur, and you both have no disturbances in your training camps or any fights in passage to upset the result.

Good luck for the future and I'll hopefully see you at the NIA.

Peace be upon you.

whos up for thrasher winning?

Good Luck Gordon really nice guy n great fighter
will hopefully see u up the west end its becomin a habbit lol before u head dwn to birminham lol

80_B Thats fine on the bet front, and everyone's entitled to there opinion right or wrong. Ive made no excuses for Dean winning the first fight, its totally fine, yes i was gutted of course i was, but the people close to me and who no me (and im hoping dean himself) no that wasnt me anywhere near my best, he won fair and sqaure and there's no bad blood or anything like that, love the guy 1 of the nicest people in this sport full stop. Lost to rungravee again fair and square no probs raja ranked Thai's can do that to anyone, but its good cause this time round im the underdog and thats what i prefer and when im at my best, i just hope this fight gets sorted asap so i can prove everyone wrong ;)

80_B ,
You seem like a good lad come and say hello , If im down i will be hanging out with the Wicker camp lot.
Peace be upon you

AndyBC
I'm very sorry if you have mistaken my post as a personal attack. It was never meant for me to cause you to react so defensively and for this I apologise unreservedly. I would never want to offend or hurt anybody in any way unless in self defence.

Remember I am just an observer and have no prefrence on who I want to win. My assessments will be the same again on previous performances and behaviors and in this case a clash of styles. When my judgments are correct I never gloat, rejoice or celebrate. It is a personal satisfaction from within that I feel I know the sport well and continue to learn more from my background, research and observations.

I wish you well in your forthcoming matches and hope this underdog status that you have labled yourself with, will give you the phycological edge that you desire.
Peace be upon you.

Farhad
Thank you for you pleasant comments, they are most kind.
It would a pleasure to meet with you. I hope that our seating arrangements can permit this to happen.
Peace be upon you Brother.

to be fair everyone knows the fight will get avoided as long as possible til andys all old and withered in his rockin chair...it should have just been on this show and could have been for the MAD title andy is supposed to hold really.

80_B youve taken my responce the wrong way mate, it wasnt a defensive responce, just saying really.

avoided in the same way you've avoided imran?

i read some shit on here sometimes..

clearly you must give a f$$k other wise you wouldn't get so defencive. i hope you and dean does happen then i'll send my nan down to show you how to train :)

Will your nan be doing any seminars in the north?

Funny how two trolls 'Jo Young' and 'James King' have used this thread to take a pop at two fighters (Liam and Andy) who AREN'T even fighting on this show. Pathetic!

In referance to:

Posted: 2010-09-08 03:53:40
to be fair everyone knows the fight will get avoided as long as possible til andys all old and withered in his rockin chair...it should have just been on this show and could have been for the MAD title andy is supposed to hold really.



I'll be very clear about this - This bout was planned (note I say bout not title) for Dean before he even fought Andy.

Yawn why do you 2 folk bore me so much? You can both sit there and do your slagging off cause we both love it and laugh at you, espeicially the way neither of you have a profile and are nothing to anyone, if you had balls and a life you would have a profile so people would no that you can speak your mind openly without shitting yourselfs, End of convo right there really, you obviously no who me and liam are so if you both have a problem by all means come and do your slagging face to face next time you see us although we both no along with everyone on this site you have no bollocks so never gunna happen, get lifes and fuck off and stop trying to cause problems that dont exsist. Ie me and dean, and liam and imran. Which also have fuck all to do with this thread.

Dan let it be known i dont care have any problem with Dean, yourself of this fight or anything. All i want is what is owed to me and thats a rematch that we all agreed to when the fight was discussed in the first place. So all i ask is you stand upto that mate you no that. Good luck with the show and to Dean and Damien smash em up boys.

And J&J the 2 troll doctors get back under your bridges boys cause nobody gives 2 shits about you :)

in regards to Imran ask the promoters involved..i said I WILL FIGHT HIM 9TH OCT RATR wicker camp said they didnt want as imran had lost his last few wasnt ready and had no confidence left....whats your reply to that then :)

PS i know dan was just tryoing to stir it up a little bit haha ya know im jokin...i know the fight will happen soon enough, hurry up tho for god sake cos Howsons nearly 47 years old or some shit now, this peter pan behaviour of his aint gonna last much longer

LOL@Andy Howson being 47 ;)

Unlucky Howson LOL , Howson ill see you at the show I hope. Hope youre keeping well?
Liam and Howson are both Heroes to one of my young fighters both inspirations so thats good enough for me ;)
No need to listen to "nicky no name" on here running their mouths off. Im sure i used to chat shit on ehre like 10 years ago but I did so under my own name.

Lets put this to bed now. Liam v Imran on the rumble at the Reebok in may, or just shut up bringing it up. And if Dean and Andy want the rematch we'll do that as well, all though that is being a bit naughty to Dan who may have other plans for it (sorry ghost)

bollocks to that..i said id do it last time they dint want to...end of now as far as im concerned

unless its an offer i cant refuse :)

I love ax.

Anyway back to the show........

Woo not long left and some cracking bouts, it will be nice to see Damien and Dean pick up new belts.

Good luck to all involved, enjoy it.

i rekonsome people are jealous of andy and liam... but wonr put there name ? haha pathetic

yeah back to it sorry about that...Good luck to everyone but espec one of my best mates thrash..really hope he does this

This thread is ace lol :)

I really wish I was going to this show, good luck to all fighters taking part, does anyone know if it is being aired?

Good luck with your fight also this weekend Andy.

Kx

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Cheers Farhad wish i could be at the show but also fighting on the same day in france so cant make it.

And daz ill ring you when im back mate.

Huge good luck to Thrasher like liam says, a really good mate of both ours and i REALLY hope he can pull this out of the bag and put a few demons to rest, want you to take it mate so much, fingers crossed for you. x

good luck....iam goin dancing after wahheeeyy xx

Legs 11

cuddles was the place in brum! hed kandi is a good night out

classic



A sawn-off shotgun, three batons and condoms were also found at Cuddles in Birmingham. It had an electric fence at the rear and boarded up windows so that the girls could not escape.

Sawatdee Khrup!
Yes 80_B Edlin v Beale is still very much on and yes a step up for Leigh. Putting his undefeated 9 wins against Marks experience and 60+ fight record.
Leigh is fit and ready, looking forward to travelling up tomorrow for all the prelims, I will also be refereeing alongside Tony Myers after Leighs fight.

SHAUN

@Paulinthailand - It's called 'Bunnys' now. ;)

If Kev Harper as trained for the Tourne & not just a fight he will win !!!

Wayne McCoy good bet along with Andy Thrasher

i agree with Deano White re: Harper - Harper had pure war at the M.E.N

we havent had all the interviews have we ?

harper was also tired at the men.... which i think what was more deans point, and at a much heavier weight than 67, hes going to be probably the biggest in there thats for sure...

at 67kg Harper will be a Trojan

good luck to gordon and thrasher in the 8 man!! also good luck dean, damien, rob and rajesh........gonna be a top show!!

What time is the weigh in?

good luck to liam robinson i think he'll shock a few people and i hope he does and good luck to tim smash it up lads :)

I can see Dave Copestake making it to the final. He is one of the least expected to win but will shock a few people.

chok dee mr robinson-ave it!

Im not sure about Copestake at this weight. Ive seen him get ko'd quickly a couple of times at 63kg. I don't think he has the chin at 67 to survive 9 mins with TNT or Kostour

Actually Dizzie, i have only been KO'd once and that was a kick to the throat, i think maybe you are underestimating me

Dizzle I respect your comments. I think Dave has developed since then and may have trained to deal with the weight difference. I think this will be a tremendous night of Thaiboxing.

go on Robbo

robbo to win i recon!

davidcopestake - best of luck, its just my prediction nothing personal.
I like you, whenever ive seen you fight youve been good value for money. Id be happy to see you prove me wrong

kev harper to win now the tourny has weeknd a lot and he just got rid of robbo in the first round , unlucky liam.

Well done kev

Said it from start now even easier Tourne no chance will he loose ;)

Just won £40 of mr Hendle he he he

Craig Dickson, Training in thai boxing for a little over a year and fighting for 10 months lost his quarter final. On two days notice he took his first A Class fight at this show and was in no way outclassed. Obviously the lack of notice meant that he didn't feel fit, but when opportunity knocked he answered.

I don't know many fighters that would have done it. Proud to have done his corner. What more can be said!!!

A True Fighter!!!

Did any of Kash's fighters win?

Yes Sunny Hitman Hira won by tko.

What about Waller and Akufo?
What did Sunny stop him with Liam?

Raj broke his ankle or something like that theres a pic of it on the other thread mate.

Rob Horrocks won his fight against Richard Waller i think on pts

Akofu lost too on points too mate.

Liam, unlucky with your fight mate, I thought your 3rd round won that fight.

Thank you Lee appreciate ur comments, i look forward to seeing the DVD and glad i hopefully added a little something to the tournament more than just a stand in for an injured fighter.

Liam Robinson was awesome in the last round!!! If only he woke up in the 2nd and stepped up the tempo earlier. He really seemed to be enjoying himself in round 3.

Rematch???

The first two rounds of Harper V Robinson were edged by Harper, the last was a massive round for Liam which IMHO gave him the fight. It is quite possible under MT scoring to lose 2 rounds and win 1 and win the fight, it depends on the margin of the win in the rounds.

Would love to see 5 rounds rematch between them.

Any how, well done Liam and Obviously Dean James was awesome again.

Shame about the lack of any real information from the promoters as to what was going on with pull outs etc, and id like my £5 back for the programme as most of it was not relevant.

Great show, well done to Damien Trainor and dave Copestake, you both did K-Star proud.
I was expecting to come on and see a few people like dizzle and paulinthailand appologising for thier pre fght comments and giving credit where credit is due.

Despite changes to the line-up, Dan and his team put on another excellent show, well done mate. I missed a number of fights but the ones I did see were a great advertisement for Muay Thai.

I was pleased with Pindi’s (Liam’s gym) performance (as was Liam) in the opening fight of the night. He fought a technically competent, clinical and controlled fight to win against a very game opponent –a really good performance for only his third fight.

Well done to Andre Kotsur an excellent win in a weight class above his usual fighting weight. He did well to beat a strong and skilful Thomas McCormick (Both really nice guys). Despite dropouts, the tournament proved really interesting and at times a little controversial, which added to the drama. I didn’t see all the tournament fights, but the ones I watched were really interesting and entertaining.

I was really proud of Liam (Robinson) - both in choosing to fight Kev (Harper) and then again in the fight. Liam showed something of his real ability in round three against Kev who a great fighter and a seasoned warrior. I really hope this is a stepping stone for Liam to really shine against the best UK fighters in the division now.

Damien did really well to control a very game and really awkward opponent who was scoring well early in the fight. Damien took charge with some nice skills in the last two rounds to secure victory.

I couldn’t be more proud of Dean (James), who put in a simply outstanding performance and his best to date, against a very tough opponent who had a massive heart. Dean delivered a non-stop barrage of fast and hard long knees mixed in with sharp kicks and elbows. After pulling ahead in the second, Dean completely dominated using a range of weapons although it was the knees that did the damage to Giang Hoang. I was surprised Giang managed to beat the count (his second to that point) after getting dropped but his ribs had gone a few seconds later. Dean is improving with every fight and was stronger and sharper in this fight than in previous fights. He is definitely improving all the time but has the potential to develop so much more...definitely the beginning of an exciting journey for Dean, Pra Chao Suua and British Muay Thai.

well done Deano and Damien...cant wait for dvd

It is quite possible under MT scoring to lose 2 rounds and win 1 and win the fight?

If harper won the first 2 rounds, and liam won the last how would that give the fight to liam?
Even if it was a massive round is it not still scored 10-9 if no knock down occured?

While I am not prepared to comment on any of the actual decisions awarded in any of the fights on the night, in Muay Thai it is possible to lose two rounds and win a three match, just as it is possible to win a fight in a five round match yet lose the majority of the rounds. It all depends how close the rounds are, or how big a boxer wins particular rounds.

An analogy used by top Thai judges is that judging Muay Thai is like judging a marathon or foot race, in the sense that judges should consider the overall fight rather than just counting the number of rounds a boxer wins. Boxer 'A' can edge several rounds, but boxer 'B' can "overtake" by winning other rounds by a bigger margin. One of the main reasons the 10 point must system was first introduced many years ago in international boxing (late 1960s), was to avoid awarding fights to a boxer by just counting the number of rounds they won. While in practice, international boxing is now almost a binary system unless there is a knock down and count, Muay Thai applies this principle more liberally.

In Muay Thai, judges need to consider by how much boxers won particular rounds, so they award the fight to the boxer who won the fight. This has been debated numerous times on this forum and if it needs to be debated again, it would be better done on a different thread.

absolutely excellent performances from liam and dean..... great to see the real mr robinson enter the ring and fight :) and dean well dean is just awesome and was fight of the night for me!!!
excellent show dan keep up the good work

i didnt see the show steve but if it was a good fight worthy of a world championship i take my hat off and appologise x

It was a good fight the opponent was tricky and awkward and in great shape see weigh in pics well done Damien T

Well done Dan and Laura, looks like another top show, gutted I missed this one!