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Topic:Andy Howson To Fight At K-1 Rising: Los Angeles
Fletch Bushido
Posted: 2012-07-02 02:47:55
Andy Howson to fight at K-1 Rising: Los Angeles

http://fightsportasia.com/2012/07/02/leeds-andy-howson-to-fight-on-k-1-rising-los-angeles/

Chok dee hombre... K-1 Rising: LA is in September 2012, and should be streamed live on youtube
nathan touchgloves
Posted: 2012-07-02 02:57:39
wicked news,well done and good luck x
HAWKMAN
Posted: 2012-07-02 03:07:36
wow - the bigtime !
paul pearson
Posted: 2012-07-02 03:22:42
Excellent,good luck Andy:)
WAKO Pro GB H.Q.
Posted: 2012-07-02 03:29:19
Fantastic News!! c n k
Phil Glover
Posted: 2012-07-02 05:06:09
Nice one Andy good luck with this one!!!
Kru Shaun Boland
Posted: 2012-07-02 05:10:33
Chock Dee buddy!
vinny
Posted: 2012-07-02 05:40:53

We are there x
-Jonno-
Posted: 2012-07-02 06:06:57
Go on Andy! :)
Neil Holden
Posted: 2012-07-02 06:26:40
So Andy Howsen is officially participating in a "K-1" Kickboxing bout.


Doug Kaplan, Chief Executive Officer for "K-1" recently gave a statement that you may find interesting.

“K-1 is the gold standard in stand-up fighting, and we are searching for the best new athletes out there to represent K-1 and possibly become one of kickboxing’s newest icons.”

Source:
http://www.mmaweekly.com/k-1-to-hold-open-tryouts-for-fighters-in-july

Maybe Andy will become one of these new Kickboxing icons!

---

Note to Andy - Make sure you are aware of the official "K-1" rules, as these allow a knee-kicks!

Best of luck for this!

Neil
Kru Shaun Boland
Posted: 2012-07-02 06:43:05
Great to see that you will be able to adapt your Muay skills to K1 Andy. As you know Muay Thai has a great success in K1 in addition to the stand up side of MMA. Well done buddy.
Dean Ford
Posted: 2012-07-02 06:52:47
Andy, knee-kick the shit out of him hahaha!
Neil Holden
Posted: 2012-07-02 07:03:25
Lol!

And be sure to correct Doug too when you see him!!

Back on topic - Andy knows that I support him with this - as I would love to see the U.K. have fighters make it on the Professional Kickboxing circuit where they get paid huge sums of deserved money for their work and sacrifice ( hence my show in October, to the same rule set to give UK fighters more experience in the format ).

Fly the flag - and bring home the W!





the celt
Posted: 2012-07-02 07:05:36
Lets all hope it is still going then,

I hear the all the fighters from the Spain show last month have not been paid yet.
Liam R
Posted: 2012-07-02 07:13:43
midget smack, nice.

K-1 is a world-wide promotion founded in Tokyo, Japan by Kazuyoshi Ishii, a former Kyokushin karate practitioner. Its rules are similar to those of kickboxing but they have been simplified to promote exciting matches that may end in a knockout win.[3] The main difference between K-1 rules and kickboxing is the use of knees, allowed in K-1 but not in International kickboxing.
There are K-1 Regional Elimination Tournaments which qualify fighters for the K-1 World Grand Prix, along with licensed K-1 Fighting Network events designed to develop new talent internationally and there is also a 70 kg (154 lb) Middleweight division called K-1 MAX ("Middleweight Artistic Xtreme"). In 2007, K-1 introduced two new Title belts separate from K-1 World GP Champions, Super Heavyweight World Title for fighters over 100 kg/220 lbs and Heavyweight World Title for fighters under 100 kg/156–220 lbs.
The letter K in K-1 is officially designated by the organisation as a representation of words karate, kickboxing and kung fu.[3] Nevertheless, some reports suggest that it represents the initial K found in competing disciplines such as karate, kickboxing, kung fu, kempo, kakutogi (the generic Japanese term for "combat sports"), and [tae] kwon do.[2] Yet another theory claims that the K simply comes from kakutogi and the "1" component pertains to the single weight division (in earlier competition) and the champion's unique position
geordie
Posted: 2012-07-02 07:26:29
All the best fella
Neil Holden
Posted: 2012-07-02 07:38:43
The statement says that there are differences between K-1 and 'International Kickboxing' rules.

Of course the difference between K-1 rules and I.R. rules.

International Kickboxing, or (I.R.) is a recognised style/ruleset that does not allow knee strikes.

This is just like saying there are differences between K-1 and F.C. (Full-Contact kickboxing).

Saying K-1 is different to I.R. or F.C. does not mean that K-1 is not regarded as a style of Kickboxing. Today, global media and event officers of K-1 recognise it as such.

I am happy with what Doug Kaplan says, especially considering his position as a C.E.O. of K-1. He clearly regards K-1 as a style of Kickboxing.

“K-1 is the gold standard in stand-up fighting, and we are searching for the best new athletes out there to represent K-1 and possibly become one of kickboxing’s newest icons.”

;)
AndyBC
Posted: 2012-07-02 07:45:50
No one cares about the rules, i dont care about the rules only thing im going to change is not slinging elbows and knee's all over the floor. And this is not 100% i have also heard that the guy's from Milan havent been paid as of yet and im telling you now if thats the case i want my purse up front or at least half of it other wise i wont be going anywhere to be messed about and robbed again and then not get paid. No chance.
Neil Holden
Posted: 2012-07-02 08:23:20
K-1 Kickboxing
F.C. Kickboxing
I.R. Kickboxing

.... 'K-1', 'F.C.' or 'I.R.' at the end of the day it is all about the dollar!

Lets hope the K-1 event does go ahead. Now that "GLORY" has bought out "ITsSHOWTIME" and holds the management contracts for the worlds leading fighters, unless "K-1" and "GLORY" can work together there may not be an event.

Dollars can work wonders though!
Kru Shaun Boland
Posted: 2012-07-02 08:24:44
K1, MMA, Kick-boxing, full contact are just generic terms and not the actual names of the arts practiced. Sports such as Kyokushinkai, Muay Thai,San Shaou, Boxing etc are the actual names of the fighting arts practised so tend to be more in an elite niche.

Originally in the 1970's when Kick-boxing began it's roots it was known as Full contact 'Karate', then Full contact. Different rule sets came in (minimum kick, low kick etc) and we had the divide.

To 'kick and box' became kick-boxing. Was massive in the USA before MMA. The PKA (professional 'Karate' association) were the UFC of the 80's.

It's great to see that Martial arts are still booming around the World since the 'Golden era' and boom of the 1970's.

Back to topic........ I hope that you do get the opportunity Andy and that your contract is honoured, you are a great fighter and ambassador for our art and sport here in the UK

Kru Shaun Boland
Posted: 2012-07-02 08:32:19
Postscript:

PKA Became Professional Kickboxing Association just as ISKA was originally International sports 'Karate' association, WAKO was World All styles 'Karate' organisation. To allow other styles to compete in the generic sport of Kick-boxing the 'Karate' was dropped and changed to 'Kick-boxing' to generalise it.
Neil Holden
Posted: 2012-07-02 08:59:25
Exactly!

K-1 is a style of Kickboxing.

If someone chooses to call it K-1 ( niche ) or to call it Kickboxing ( generic ), neither would be incorrect.

What is incorrect is to say that K-1 is not Kickboxing, or regarded as such by mainstream media and audiences.

This was only brought up on this thread, as it backs up a position I was FORCED to defend on another thread. Of course the quote by the Chief Executive Officer for K-1 Global does this perfectly ( thanks Doug ).

There will always be those with their own differing opinion - despite what is shown and explained to them.

K-1 style Kickboxing, "K-1 ( Niche )" or "Kickboxing ( Generic )" depending on your choice of words to describe the sport.. - may yet become the global alternative to M.M.A. alongside Boxing.

We will see.
jm1985
Posted: 2012-07-02 09:04:50
Who cares really ?
liam badco
Posted: 2012-07-02 09:14:05
what a bell...after all those posts opn the last thread that u spent hours writing 80 line essays to did you not realise i was winding you up...get a grip
liam badco
Posted: 2012-07-02 09:15:14
you were so easy to bite i was only joking i dont even fight k1 why would i be bothered if its a form of kickboxing or not?? im not at all.
Dean Ford
Posted: 2012-07-02 10:21:22
See tbh, who cares whether its called K-1, kickboxing or fucking backgammon. Its a style of fighting open to all which suits muay thaai boxers and kickboxers. That's all there is to it really.
Back to the thread, good luck Andy!! With your aggressive mentallityn you should do fine under these rules.
AndyBC
Posted: 2012-07-02 10:35:43
Exactly no one cares, i dont care what the rule set is, i care i'm fighting and getting paid thats that. So lets not have more essay's on the rules and the rest of it on this thread, we've heard it all before. The 1 and only concern i have is that it actually happens and i get the full amount of what ive been promised and i dont get robbed blind again this time.
jm1985
Posted: 2012-07-02 10:41:07
Can't believe some one robbed you there. Did they get caught ? Was you insured ?
Steve Logan
Posted: 2012-07-02 10:51:08
Good luck Andy.
the celt
Posted: 2012-07-02 11:52:52
Neil I dont to need read your poison on this thread, the other onewas enough, dont take it to heart, but stop will ya like a good man.
Fletch Bushido
Posted: 2012-07-02 12:58:49
K-1 is a poor man's Taekwondo

A prime Master Toddy would have taken Peter Aerts head off with a twisting dragon kick

Neil, I'm gonna need a more detailed explanation as to the differences between kickboxing rules, cheers
Neil Holden
Posted: 2012-07-03 03:37:31
Poor mans TKD - Lol!

Maybe you will be able to attend the £5'000.00 prize, 8 man Kickboxing Grandprix Tournament I am organising on the 28th October at the Parr Hall in Warrington.

We are expecting some explosive action, to the same K-1 style format ( which includes knee-kicks - lol ) as used by ItsShowtime and GLORY, and K-1 of course!

Seeing this live may give you an understanding. K-1 style Kickboxing may not be everyones cup of tea, but plenty of people have converted to the format, once they have seen it live.



JusR
Posted: 2012-07-03 03:42:07
All the best Andy.
peetee
Posted: 2012-07-03 05:01:32
k1 been watching it for years, its good but its not muay thai, if your a muay thai purist then it dont compare

5000 for the winner is ok money, 5000 total pot is nothing special, these fighters still deserve more


if muay thai is in your blood you cannot be converted to anything else, yes you can fight other styles but only for money
jamin
Posted: 2012-07-03 06:20:57
Thought you weren't allowed to call it K1. Isn't that why the Oriental Rules term was adopted??

Good luck Andy. Love watching you fight and reckon K1 is gonna really suit your style.......WAR for 3 rounds!!
Carl McMillan
Posted: 2012-07-03 07:48:26
well done Liam on showing your true professionalism again.
Great stuff that.
AndyBC
Posted: 2012-07-03 07:53:11
Cheers jamin mate, although tbh i dont think it will suite my style :/ ye3ah i can war it out and have a high pace for 3 rounds, but thats always 3,4 and 5 Muay Thai style, i dont really do anything first 2, i'm going to have to work hard on speeding things up plus both the K1 fights i have lined up are 5x3's K1 bouts.......Oh dear haha.

On another note i have heard the rumours about the fighters from K1 rising not been paid are false and basically jusr BS so all is good and going ahead for this LA fight which is good.

And can we seriously stop the conversations about what K1 is and isnt?? I'm doing these fights for the money and to keep busy thats that. Cant wait to get back to fighting Muay Thai in October.
JP
Posted: 2012-07-03 16:15:59
http://www.fightersonlymag.com/content/news/16683-k-1-still-not-paying-its-fighters-or-bills-alleges-former-partner

No idea if its true but hope for Reece and upcoming for Andy that it is bullshit rumour.

a.hustler
Posted: 2012-07-03 18:28:45
Name of styled doesn't matter a jot as long as the rules and scoring criteria area.!!!!! Such a shame when lads fight and are unclear of these 2 points. Good look Andy
Yogendra Parekh
Posted: 2012-07-03 18:43:38
Good luck with this Andy mate im sure you'll do us all proud :)
Liam R
Posted: 2012-07-04 08:41:13
doesnt really matter how its scored as kickboxing or k1 or karate if andy dont chin him all over he aint winning in USA
AndyBC
Posted: 2012-07-04 15:30:59
True ting blud....I totally no what to expect and im not going to Japan or LA to fuck about, Im going to try and smash them both up simple ;)
JoeToe
Posted: 2012-07-08 20:51:47
Chok Dee Andy,
Liam R
Posted: 2012-07-09 04:47:14
what date in sept is this ta
Kelly Leach
Posted: 2012-07-09 12:52:51
In the words of Cuba Gooding Jnr... "SHOW ME THE MONEY" :)

Good luck skinny x
AndyBC
Posted: 2012-07-13 09:59:27
Robbo mate its on the 8th September i think.
JoeToe
Posted: 2012-07-13 10:54:05
Andy,
I'm 100% sure you're going to take the K-1. Are you also fighting on the Warriors Cup in New Jersey?
Neil Holden
Posted: 2012-07-31 10:14:14
Dewy Cooper talks K-1 Grandprix:

It wasn’t long ago that many believed the kickboxing juggernaut promotion K-1 was never going to be seen again.

Through a backlog of financial struggles, K-1′s issues were out in the open for everyone to see, and solutions didn’t seem very viable.

Just months later however, K-1 is back and putting the finishing touches on their upcoming Grand Prix tournament closing out in Japan in late 2012, but not before the American’s crown their champion on Sept 8 in Los Angeles.

With a field of names like ‘Mighty’ Mo and legends such as Rick Roufus being involved, the K-1 Rising U.S. Grand Prix will send one heavyweight to Japan to compete for the ultimate Grand Prix title later this year.

Multi-time K-1 veteran Dewey Cooper is another name in the field of hopefuls, and while this isn’t his first go round on the grandest stage in all of kickboxing, even he admits there’s still something very special about it.

“Being a part of this whole K-1 company is and being selected to be in the tournament is a huge honor, because K-1 only searches for the greatest stand-up strikers in the entire world. You must realize this is a global thing, this isn’t a one country thing. It’s always an honor to be a part of it, and from a fighter’s perspective it’s always an honor to do battle with some of the best fighters on this entire planet,” Cooper told MMAWeekly Radio.

“It’s the Super Bowl of stand-up striking so I cannot wait until September.”

Cooper has consistently faced some of the toughest fighters in the kickboxing world, and hopes that his experience will play a factor in a tournament mixed with veterans and newcomers.

Read more at the source : Source : http://www.mmaweekly.com/dewey-cooper-talks-k-1-grand-prix-its-the-super-bowl-of-striking


AndyBC
Posted: 2012-08-01 08:59:55
Neil seriously can you please stop with this shit?? None of us care, we don't even no who it is your talking about! The threads about me fighting at K-1 Rising not "Dewey F'ing Cooper"!!

Back to the actual thread topic of me fighting on the show, contracts signed, fighter bio sent off, everything is arranged and sorted and all 100% going ahead so bring on 3weeks after Japan fight. All the rumours about none payment where just that and everyone has been paid and alls sorted to kick off the big show 8th September. Can't wait.
Neil Holden
Posted: 2012-08-01 09:09:01
Andy,

Technically Dewey Cooper is a 'fellow' K-1 fighter to you. He is part of the K-1 Rising USA Grandprix.

Additionally, your post..."we don't even no who it is your talking about!" - who is... "WE"?

This is not a "U.K." forum, it is an "International" forum. So how do you know wether the post is of interest to people or not?



AndyBC
Posted: 2012-08-01 09:34:40
I no because not 1 single person on this thread is interested about any of the comments and essay's you've been putting on mate that's how. People are reading this thread because there people who no me, and its about my fight not Dewey no disrespect to him. And none of these people really care about k-1 as most have stated many times. There just interested in me etting the Romie rematch and showing there support.
Liam R
Posted: 2012-08-01 09:50:55
who is dewey?
Liam R
Posted: 2012-08-01 09:52:04
this guy?

liam badco
Posted: 2012-08-01 10:23:53
hewey, Lewey and dewey??
liam badco
Posted: 2012-08-01 10:25:08

Doylie
Posted: 2012-08-01 11:01:36
All the best Andy xxx
Kieran Keddle1
Posted: 2012-08-01 15:44:27
See you there Andy x
Neil Holden
Posted: 2012-08-02 04:01:18
Lol - ego or WHAT!

There are plenty of people interested about K-1 and follow threads on AX that relate. Obviously there will be some that are not. K-1 exposure, means exposure for fighters competing on K-1 events, means exposure for people like you. Something people would regard as positive! Tim Thomas doesnt have a rant, if something is posted on a thread about him competing on a GLORY event, just because it is not directly relevant to him, and only him, and only his fans!!!

Some people just live in tiny bubbles.

Anyway its great news that a UK fighter is on a K-1 event, and it is great news that K-1 is back.

So with that, good luck for you up coming bouts.

PS you should see the emails I get from people who follow AX, and dont post due to trolls. And if you knew the conversations that I had with many top trainers about certain subjects on AX, ( again who do not post due to trolls ), you may again be suprised.

All positive regarding info I share, and for many info that they were unaware off ( didnt liam even post - why did no one know about TT's in the GLORY €300'k event, info I posted ).

Have a good flight to Japan.

Vinny is pretty confident for you - which is a good omen.

:)
ActionPromo's
Posted: 2012-08-02 04:41:34
I hope the K1 organisation reaches the heights it previously did, excellent promotion, much preferred over the other similar promotikns.

Good luck to any uk fighters taking part.
AndyBC
Posted: 2012-08-02 05:03:10
Neil get a grip ffs, 1 no ego what so ever my points are plain and simple and easy to understand you just love to waffle on acting as a know it all when it come's to K-1 when the simple facts is i dont give 2 shits about anything you have wrote regarding it.

Again no ego at all, just myself and most people are sick of you coming on hijacking threads writing pathetic essay's (all of which are all saying the same old crap over and over again) about K-1 the scoring, where it came from and blah blah f'ing blah. Nobody cares, what people care about are the fact that some of our UK fighters have been lucky enough to be chosen to fight on such big shows and if its under K-1 then so be it, like it or not its where the money is, i never thought i would fight K-1 mostly due to the fact that it was never at my weight, but things have changed and there is alot of it about and exciting things happening in the future and if im getting paid more than i ever have been for a Thai fight then hell yeah i'll do it. Its 2 huge shows i am on within 4 weeks of each other and travelling the world and good pay days id be insane not to. But this thread on here is about me fighting on it thats a fact, i am not having an ego i just dont want to come on expecting to see peoples good luck wishes, maybe haters slagging off or whatever and than have a massive pile of crap wrote that has nothing to do with my fight thats all. And Tim doesnt really go on here, he has his head screwed on, means he doesnt have to read all the rubbish on here from people. I appreciate that you have been in the game a long time etc and its obviously a passion of yours as it is mine and most people who come on here just for godsake stop writing essay's that we dont care about, you've made me write 1 now lol.
Liam R
Posted: 2012-08-02 05:05:43
i need something for my wrists
Neil Holden
Posted: 2012-08-02 05:45:55
Kettle calling the pot!


It was just suggested to me, that maybe your knickers were in a twist because the post openned with the Kickboxing Juganaut K-1... ( and some people just belive it should be called modified thai ) lol.

Anyway plenty of essays on ax, informative ones too - about muaythai scoring by Tony Myers etc, martial arts history by Kru Shaun Boland etc... So what if one mentions K-1. There are a lot of people that do not really understand Muaythai scoring just as there are a lot of people do not understand about K-1. In both instances it is because they are ill-informed by people ( ie K-1 should be called modified thai - wtf! ).


If you dont want me to respond to you again on this thread - then dont post something that I will feel a need to.

Best wishes, and watch out for those hiza-geri knee-kicks.

Sorry to mention the knee-kick ( but didnt you launch a tirade against me on another thread saying how there was no such technique, then when I responded with the link for the official K-1 rules, article 5, that does in fact list knee-kicks instead of appologising, you say you never read what I posted - WELL YOU ARE READING THIS NOW so maybe you should take the time to check the K-1 rules, espacially as you have a K-1 bout in four weeks time ).
AndyBC
Posted: 2012-08-02 07:22:23
Your ok thanks Neil after 63f I think I no how to punch, kick and knee so I'm sure ill survive without boring myself to near death reading your post on scoring etc! Oh hang on I also don't need to cause I no how to score in K-1 its hardly difficult! And I have a K-1 bout in a week and 3days time first to concentrate on so ill just think about that and nothing else first.
Liam R
Posted: 2012-08-02 07:23:21

HoostFan
Posted: 2012-08-02 07:52:01
Neil how dare you post anything that is not Andy Howson worship.

liam badco
Posted: 2012-08-02 07:59:41
me and andy have worked on the knee kick, thew wrist punch, the ankle-thigh and the shoulder-toe in the gym....dont worry, we have also mastered hiza gera oragami and hong kong fooey so its all good
Muay1
Posted: 2012-08-02 08:02:34
Lol - all the best with the Fight Andy. :)
ActionPromo's
Posted: 2012-08-02 08:12:22
"why can't we all just get along?"

ViperMMA
Posted: 2012-08-02 08:34:59
To be fair the post is as much about K1 as it is about Andy fighting in it. Haven't bothered following the link which may be more about Andy than K1.

I dont know Andy and wish him all the best for his upcoming fights in this discipline of kickboxing. Hopefully you will be as successful as Gary "Smiler" Turner was 8 or so years ago in this sport.

Thanks to Neil for your informative but totally under appreciated posts on this discipline.
Paul Ward
Posted: 2012-08-02 10:01:30
viper steve is that a neils pube in your teeth? Shotokan karate style.
Mike Dagley
Posted: 2012-08-02 10:15:11
As a 'newbie' to this forum I'd appreciate Neil's posts if they shed some new light on the rules of K1 - his comments elsewhere about the legality of knee-kicks were interesting (just too long). But he seems eager to simply score points here, which always turns things a little silly.
This is my first post and I don't know either Neil or the Bad Co. guys. But I think this debate will look the same to other impartial visitors (who just want to read a quality thread).
Amir Subasic
Posted: 2012-08-02 10:18:35
Good Luck to you mate...:-)
AndyBC
Posted: 2012-08-03 10:49:29
ViperMMA
Posted: 2012-08-09 03:42:29
Wow Paul you can read a profile, aren't we clever. Give yourself a pat on the back.

Now that you have finished, pick up your mop and get back to cleaning the piss of that nursing home floor.
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HoostFan
Posted: 2012-08-09 10:58:10
One day Paul ward hopes to be spit roasted at bad co.
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