Yodsanklai Fighting Amateur - Beijing - 2010

Yodsanklai will be fighting in amateur Muay Thai at the end of August 2010 representing Thailand in an Olympic Style Martial arts tournament!! With pads, and Olympic scoring!!

Any thoughts?

Is there weight classes for this? Isnt Michael Dicks representing England?

Not too sure who or if anyone is representing England! Artem Levin is the current Amateur world champion, who Yod has beaten twice.

Micheal Dicks is fighting in the 67kg tournament, ive just been offered a place in the 71kg tournament last week (thanks to who ever pulled out ;)), so hopefully i wont draw yod or levin in the first round, i was 79kg last week, im hungry but excited, me and Micheal both fly on thursday first fights are sat.

good luck geordie!

Sure I will see you before Craig, but Good Luck to you and Michael!!! xx

Best of luck Geordie and Michael.

Amateur Is the way to go.IMHO .Not many feel the same way in the UK .

Greg , Anna and Amanda Developed from the Amateur. But hey what do I know !

craig i cant believe you are 79kg lol x

Ha ha not anymore ;) thanks for all the good lucks!! just checked the line up an levin is in 75kg toruney

How can pro's fight amateur? Isn't this one of the 'issues' in kickboxing?

Action Promo's , Muay thai is exempt from the same amateur/PRO divide that Full contact suffers from.

How so?

Not sure Yods power style will be as effective in all that padding as it is without it. Should be interesting.

Bulldog read this thread again and see for yourself.

Good luck to geordie and dixie!

Hi . Danny Fairtex. Artem Lost in the World championships so he is not current world Champ.

I've read it twice and still can see Bulldogs point, how so?

Sanchai and Buakaw are fighting aswell!

I have Buakaws Camp is not going now.

*Heard lol

Mark Gibbs in reply to Bulldog's question , you will notice that top level PRO Fighters are fighting Amateur.
That in essence proves that the Amateur /PRO divide does not really exist in Muay Thai.
If there is such a thing then this thread also proves that if anyone is trying to enforce such a divide then their endeavours are obviously not working.

That's a shame

Saenchai is also out as he doesn't want to fight at 67kg and the 63kg division already has a Thai in it.

Even with the padding Yods power will still be there. The shin pads are paper thin and the body sheild isn't much either. You'd be suprised how many people actually go dwon from body shots at these games.

And this isn't your average IFMA World Champs. This is the Sports Accord Combat Games. Various diciplines will be going on around the same time and as this is a chance for Muaythai to shine so there is only 1 class, the A class, so only the best fighters will be fighting. I believe Yod is fighting in the 75kg division because Buakaw was supposed to fight in 71.

Yeah yod is in 75 too, Baukaw and artur kysehnko are meant to be in 71kg with a lot of other good names, cant wait to fight these people. Not sure we are using body shields think its just head, shin elbow pads. Either way gonna be a great trip

i love kyshenko, he is one of my favourite fighters.
i actually love him too, in a boy-girl way :) he is gorgeous. please dont harm his face Craig (or his body) :) x

LOL Marianne.

Good luck to the UK people in this:)

Still seems quite bizarre how pro-fighters can take part in an amateur rules event, especially seeing how the fight sports are trying to gain credibility with mainstream bodies such as olympics, etc. Bit like putting Amir Khan in the next olympics. How is it different?

I think it's different because Muaythai fighters don't get paid millions like boxers.

An example is Kelubin. He is professional but gets paid by his government to fight at these events and do well. Same with Artem Levin, last year he was scheduled to fight in the S1 but turned it down to fight at the IFMAS because he would be getting paid more to produce a good result and a possible gold.

I think it is very sad that these top fighters are allowed to enter an amateur tournament.
How are the real Amateurs expected to progress with these guys in?
Hot sizzle, Baukaw may not earn millions,(quite a bit in K1) but he and yod and Sanchai etc are full time professional fighters. some of the real amateurs will have fulltime jobs etc. Also a lot of very, very good pro boxer also do not earn millions, but are still pro.

I'm with Steve an this.

Me too, for exactly those reasons.

due to the reward of thai governement ?!...25.999 usd per gold?!...

Personally it makes as much sense as say Ricky Hatton sticking on a headguard and entering the Olympics but whatever floats people's boat.

I can see what you are saying but this event is very much professional just in amatuer gears. It's the Sports Accord Muaythai champs not the IFMA Amatuer World Champs. There is only 1 division which is A division and is for the professional fighters to test themselves against each other.

There is a good interview written in the International Kickboxer magazine with Andrei Kelubin where he talks about how the European Amatuer Championships are pretty much the pinicle of their fighting. A good read and is floating around the net somewhere and explains why the Europeans are so strong.

Woops meant to say Sports Accord Combat Games not Mauythai Champs..

Opening ceremonies were impressive. Jacky Chan, Jet Li, at the ceremonies. Jacky sang!!!!! Top it off with a very impressive line up of Muaythai athletes.

Hot Sizzle do you have a link to that kulebin interview? wouldn't mind reading that thanks

i can see what farhad means but it looks like the first small steps to getting MT accepted as an olympic disicpline...hopefully

Wow! All I can say is silly and pointless. What would it prove for guys like Yod to win?? That they are better? Of course they are thats why they are elite pros! I disagree whole heartedly with this!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Hi Darren i do have a link but you'll have to sign up with International Kickboxer forum to read it.

Heres the link anyway. http://www.kickboxermag.com.au/feature-stories/96-belarus-bullet-andrei-kulebin.html

Im gonna keep this simple, ive been blown away by these games, those who say its ridiculous for pros to be in it are either iggnorant or just nieve, Evey muay thai fighter in this competition is a top level pro, its like the olympics for combat sports. The padding is no different as its so thin the only difference is head guards an 4 x 2min rounds thats it, point blank.

To get a fight card like they have here would cost a fortune at pro, its the biggest competition in the world for combat sports and long may it continue, im just glad to have been apart of the very first one.

For those back home, I lost 3-2 split descion to Tarapong Dee of thailand (liumpini Ranked)in the quaters.

Micheal Stopped his belarus opponent in the 4th in the quarters and is fighting Petrov from Russia tonight in the Semi's

Yod stopped his opponent in first with body kick, levin and kyshenko both walked there quaters with marcus oberg also looking strong. All the thai's are fighting very hard and they have brought a very strong team, i predict they will take most the golds (apart from 67kg obviously) behind micheal all the way

cheers sizzle ill sign up and check that out, nice one

marcus oberg is quality a bit under rated i recon

Bleeding hell!!! Sounds like an awesome tournament all the same.

My point still stands though :

There is no distinction between Amateur and PRO for Muay Thai ;)

(I am right again LOL)

Best of luck to dixy!

Farhad do you have OCD? Find a hobby pal

Michael won the Semi's today against Petrov, and will fight Jeerasak Inudom in the final on Thursday x

wicked news , good luck for the final

Geordie forgot to mention, being the modest soul that he is, that Terrapong the Thai whom he lost to by a split decision just beat Kreshenko by clear majority. I must add my dissapointment in the lack of kickboxing or muay thai footage on the official websites, everything else seems to be shown. Best of lick to Micheal in the final the whole of the northeast muay thai comunity is cheering for him.

good luck to micheal, great news ,when is the final?

friday

thanks, keep us posted please.

Micheal's tucked up in bed.... now thats up to date info haha i cant sleep so im on ax.

All the thai's are strong i think they have someone in the final for most of the tournaments, Terrapong will win the 71kg, marcus oberg is good but terrapong dropped kyshenko twice and was never troubled to win unanimous 5-0.

Yodsanklai is very strong in this tournament although his opponent in the semi's from the ukraine was also very strong and it finished close. should be a good fight with Atrem levin who got a bye to the final as his semi's opponent just didnt show.

The thai's will prob win the lighter weight tourneys.

Micheal's opponent for the final is skyscraper tall and won his last two fights with super strong knees but i think the frame of mind micheal is in he's gonna get the gold. looking forward to tomorrow, its actually on thurs night here but will be thursday afternoon your time back home

Hard luck Michael, but a silver at such an event must be a great consolation. Really outstanding to have got to the final in such a prestigious event. You did us all proud in the UK, but particularly your coach (Paul)and yourself. From the video clips the Thai looked clever and have great knees. Thailand seemed determined to take as many gold medal as they could (and appear to have been very successful).Great for Craig too...for both of you to have been there and fought well is a great advertisement for UK Muay Thai. Well done everyone concerned.

Tony where did you see the clips I can,t find any

Sport Accord Games 2010 Beijing- Day 6 THE FINALS

http://community.coc-elite.com/video/231/DAY-6-FINALS.aspx

Sport Accord Games 2010 Beijing- Day 6 THE FINALS Part2

http://community.coc-elite.com/video/232/DAY-6-FINALS-2-of-2.aspx

Yod got beat by Levim in the final

Levim VS Yodsanklai if anyone finds any vids put them in here

yod just isnt the same fighter he was anymore, still good but not as dangerous

Looks like it was the correct decision too. Thanks for finding the video.

Not that I'd want him to kick me but does it look like Yod just doesn't have any snap behind his strikes anymore?

Good fight. Have they dropped the body protectors in the amateurs now?

How many fights will they have had in how may days to the final??

4-5 i think mate!

Shit thats tough over a week! that levim is a big boy but Yod definitely not packing the heat like he used to.

yod lost his killer side!!!! maybe got lazy!

Levim is massive!

Much better without the body shields...they just need to lose the headgear now lol.

According to IFMA, in the A Class in World and International Games competition, the body protector is no longer going to be used. B Class... yes.
Headgear... need the illusion of safety that the head gear brings for the international community and MuayThai's international acceptance. Everyone dislikes the head gear but it does have some merit in a tournament situation like this when you fight 2 or 3 times in a week!
Very impressive event. Great fighters. Thailand was the strongest with 3 gold medals. No other country received more than 1 gold medal.
Pro's vs. Amateurs... the goal was to impress the international community with the best MuayThai athletes out there. Those who were needed to be impressed, were! Big step forward for IFMA and IOC recognition.
Artem was very hungry for revenge against Yod and he got it.
The event was extremely well planned and well run.
A great time was had by all!

still dont see how muaythai getting in the olympics wil be good for the sport if it bears no relation to the real thing.
just cos something is an olympic sport or more people are watching it (in a diluted form)doesnt suddenly make it any better.
look how shit tae kwondo is in the olympics.

amatuer boxing became shite through the Olympics and the scoring also! Im also at a loss to what the fuss is all about to be honest, there is a huge amount of time and money being spent on this when they still dont even have a decent set of rankings for the pro game and know one really knows who is world champion or not. Who outside of the hardcore fans on the web are paying any real attention to this?

>>No offence, but this is AMATEUR Muay Thai with pads etc (The first time Yod has ever even put pads on in a fight). Yodsanklai is one of the best PROFFESIONAL Muay Thai Fighters at his weight, otherwise he wouldnt be the current Contender,WMC, WBC World Champion and all the other titles he holds. So saying he's lazy and his kicks are not sharp anymore is noncence.> And by the way he's already fought Levin in Proffesional Muay Thai and Knocked him out BIG TIME.

I'm not too sure, but based on that fight yod will get his arse handed to him on a platter by John Wayne Parr in October.

I'm not saying Yod is lazy at all - i've never been to Pattaya, never seen him train anywhere except Youtube and you just wouldn't stay at that level for long if you were lazy.

Yod is a fantastic fighter, nobody's disputing that. In my opinion however, his punches, and especially his kicks seemed to have a lot more snap to them 5 years ago. I'm just a novice fighter hwever so I could be wrong but if I am then I'd like it to be pointed out to me.

I think Yod look's frustrated , Amateur fighting is totally different to Pro , especially with the annoying headguards etc, I personally dont like it ! It makes me fight differently , and lazily .

JMO

Just for the record Yod usually fights at 72 and in this tournament he was in the 75kg division. Artem is a beast at that weight.

Also be interesting to know how thick the floor padding was. I know at the Thailand worlds the padding is really thick and spongy and does sap a lot of energy out of the legs quickly so could possibly have been the case.

As for the Olympic scoring system, if it's going to be like boxing then Muaythai is in trouble. The judges have a hard time pressing the button to 2 strikes (in boxing) letalone 8. Plus i can't see how clinching can be scored effectivly unless it results in a KD or KO.

yeh i reckon he did look frustrated cos levin kept leaning down on him and he was trying to throw the left over the top bomb.

his kicks will always be powerful as hell, but some people cant kick with the pads on.

I refereed Yods first fight and it lasted two kicks the second hit the body Jung dropped like a stone! There's no way

I refereed Yods first fight and it lasted two kicks the second hit the body. Jung dropped like a stone! There's no way I would want Yod to to kick me like that! lol I counted to three and Jung said thats enough I don't blame him at all! Yod's power is amazing!
I have also seen Yod train at Fairtex before and the power of Yod is unreal! Holding the pads wouldn't be easy either I'm sure you would have sore arms for a week or two!lol

Hey Chris, you gonna be at the worlds this year?

See you there Bud!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HU1mKTM-8sA

his kicks around the 40 second mark had the room shaking

Yes I will be at the worlds see you there!

at around 4:57 ish yod throws a middle kick..
is it just me(which it more than likely is) or does the kick look a little tired and lethargic, lacking zip in it?