The show will be called Pound for Pound / The World awaits

Full fightcard will be released by the end of the week.
We have some serious talent on the show you will not be dissapointed :)
As well as the main event every fight on the undercard will be worth the ticket money alone.

Also VIP Meal Drink and Table Packages and various other ticket prices etc will be publised, but be fast as this show is going to be a guaranteed sellout.

You will be able to purchase them through Paypal or by cash or cheque at various ticket outlets.
All tickets will be sent recorded next day delivery.

The venue is massive prob one of the biggest venues used for Kickboxing events and caters for all and all fighters and camps are extremly well looked after.

Venue is approx
1.5 hrs away from Kent and Birmingham
2-2.5 hrs away from Lincolnshire
3hrs away from Sheffield and Bournemouth

We will be doing great hotel deals for travelling spectators and hotels are only 200m walking distance from the venue.

All details will be on our dedicated Event and Game Promotions pages on www.marlonhunt.co.uk

This is a show you can not afford to miss

any news on the fight card as yet?

End of this week mate :)

COOL : )

Sorry Marlon but '£4£ the world awaits' .. whats next 'Mirror mirror on the wall'?

Would of called it Unleased, but you have taken that one. lol :)

All seating arrangments will be
VIP Tables (Meal,Drink and Standard Table options available)
VIP Frontrow (row 1-2)
Frontrow (row 3-4)
Standard seating (Kids consessions only available here)

You will receive a colour coded wristband which coinsides with which ticket you have purchased and you will be ushered to your sectioned seating area.

All VIP tickets will receive a complementary day pass to use the entire David Lloyd facilities on the Sat up till the start of the show which includes Sauna, Jacuzzi, Swimming Pools, Gym, Racket Sports etc.

VIP's will not need to que and VIP Tables will have their own hostesses which will meet and greet them at reception and they will also have their own waitress which will bring your drinks to you.

VIP tables will be the only place where you can drink in the arena.
VIP Front row will have their own private VIP Bar overlooking the arena
All other ticket holders will need to go to the main bar.

VIP'S and Fighters camps will be invited to the VIP Only Afterparty till 2 am at the David Lloyd centre.

Its the end of the week? Fight Card?

Confirmed fighters for the show.
Marlon Hunt
John Orchard
Julie Kitchen
Sean Bowman
Smirnova Natalya
Ronnie Clarke
Alexander White
Sam Allen
Scott Allen
Ryan Llyal
George Katsimpas

There is also a massive fight in talks which on it's own would fill the venue, but waiting confirmation.

This will be by far the biggest show for the past couple of years.

All VIP Table Pakages includes a 2 course meal with various optional Drink Packages

VIP Tickets include free use of David Lloyd Centre for the day and entry to the VIP afterparty.

coooooooooooooollllllllllllll, ttt

cant wait, wen will u know who fighting who except the obvious one? ha

Ipswich 1.5 hrs from Birmingham? What by helicopter?

You may be on your way to world domination Marlon but not even you can shrink the country.LMAO

Regards

Dean

cant wait for the show! it will be awsome!!

Is there ny undercard match ups made as yet ?

Alexander V Ronnie???
Alexander V Qasim??
Ronnie V Mike Nudds?

Leaving us all in suspense here lol

scott Allan v Alexander White
Scott Allan v Qasim
Scott Allan v Ronnie Clark
Scott Allan v Mike Nude
One after another 5x2min
now that would please his mum right now (cheeky upstart)
ps AND NO INTERANCE TIME

Hi guys still on hols in dominican rep will let you all know when I get back :)

HARD LIFE A MARLON LOL

tell him Pete lol

DOMINICAN REPUBLIC aint that near yarmouth lol

bac yet

BREAKING NEWS:

I have been in talks with IKF and ISKA and I am happy to announce that Marty Cox Jnr will also be fighting on the £4£ World Awaits Show for the ISKA Welterweight World Title vs an opponent TBA.

I am very pleased to have this on and co sanctioning this event with 2 of the biggest and most credible orgs.

This is one not to be missed and if people have not seen John Orchard, Marty Cox Jnr or myself fight please come down, as you never know how much longer we will be in the sport of kickboxing.

I am gutted I am in Rome with the Amateur England Team. Good luck with the show. It looks a corker.

Gary Hamilton?

credit to you iska and the ikf together, wako next month good on ya, did you get those 3 for oct m8

Opponent will be revealed shortly ;)

As I said before its about promoters and the big orgs working together to help make the sport more credible.

Please say it's Nick Gill or Suhky!

both too heavy aren't they Dan?

says he's fighting for welterweight title mate

nick gill would be a massive fight!!!!!!!

oh yeah lol my bad!

this is looking to be the show of the year imo. the main fight itself is massive. undercard is looknig amazing.

You will have to wait to see who it is, but he is also a World Champion ;)

Yeah I am planning on it being the biggest show of the year.

I am very lucky to have a venue big and prestigious enough to hold this event.

Still looking for a few AM fighters for the undercard, so if people are interested please contact me.

Marlon if regis sugden available then maybe him against aaron towns from clan dundee, think regis fighting scott allan also this year. would be a good fight. just an idea:)

marlon you have mail

I have the Allen brothers already on the show. :)

Hi Marlon, sorry about the delay, email is playing up, spoke to Dave and we will take that fight you offered, can you please call him to tie up all details.

Cheers Shawn

Ok mate no probs :)

cheers bud, should be a good fight on what is an awesome looking show

Shawn can you email me big dave's no please think he has changed it again!!!

Guys is Welterweight not 67kgs which is Nck Gill's weight ? :-)

Hey Marlon, if you need a alternate back up fighter to fight Marty Cox Jr just in case anything happens hopefully not but I'd be interested !!! Nick and I will rematch again for the IKF title soon, we just fought for it last Feb'09. just some food for thought.

MadDog Morello
Team Morello
Santa Barbara,California

ANY NEW NEWS ON THIS EVENT?????

MadDog Morello

hurry up October!! Can't wait for this show!

any news on whos fighting who? could be a all scotland fight, alexander whyte v ronnie clark:P that would be a class fight and a show worthy of the fight, but heres hoping both them get top class english opponents.:d

Yes its still going ahead guys and we do have an England vs Scotland undercard.

MadDog you have mail :)

Hi guys here are the ticket options for the show.

A Paypal link will go live on www.marlonhunt.co.uk when full fight list is released.
Tickets will also be available by cash and cheque from participating camps, David Lloyd Centre in Ipswich and myself.

Main event
IKF Pro Super Middleweight World Title 12 x 2 min
Marlon Hunt vs John Orchard

Also on the bill :
Marty Cox Jnr
Alexander White
Ryan Hamer
Ronnie Clarke
Sam and Scott Allen
Few other matches to be confirmed then full list will be released

VIP PLATINUM PACKAGE

8 people £500
2 course meal before the show

Front row ringside round table seating 8
Ring side drinks service
Separate VIP bar & lounge with arena viewing area
VIP after party until 1.30am
Platinum ticket entry from 3pm
Free use of David Lloyd health and spa facilities from 3pm

VIP PACKAGE
16 people - £600

Second row ringside seats
Rectangular table – seating 16
Drinks package available
Separate VIP bar & lounge with arena viewing area
VIP after party until 1.30am
VIP express entry from 6pm

Smaller group options will be released one month after the booking line has opened.

5 people £200
4 people £160

STANDARD SEATING TICKETS - £25
Doors open at 6.30pm

Cmon Marlon give us some matches and don't leave us in suspense :P

Everything is under wraps IMO. :)

Waititng for confirmation tonight on my 2nd massive main event.
(No not saying who it will be between until I have the all clear, but it is another fight everyone has wanted to see for a long time)

This will for sure be the biggest show of the year though with a definite England vs Scotland undercard as promised.

Sam Allen will be defending his IKF British title vs Alex Sirman.
Alexander White, Ronnie Clarke and Scot Allen are also 100% confirmed.

Well done to Sam, his second defence, a true Champion.

hi marlon,anything for julie and sean yet?

Hi Nathan will email you today :)

Still need a few AM fighters for the undercard.
If your interested please contact me through my profile.

Good travel and ticket commission given.

Regular updates / ticket purchasing / fightlist etc will shortly be on on the events page on www.marlonhunt.co.uk

Obviously will also keep you posted here on AX.

MASSIVE news coming up today!!

The Game Promotions are happy to announce that The big fight between Belfasts Gary Hamilton and London’s Marty Cox Jnr is on in a double main event.

Hamilton and Cox Jr were close to meeting when the two were only minutes away from entering the ring in Belfast’s KICKmas Box Mania event December 1st at the Waterfront Hall. Before the first bell Cox went over his ankle in the warm-up and was forced by doctors to sit the bout out.

Much speculation has risen between these two fighters and all will be answered on Oct 10th at the David Lloyd Centre in Ipswich.

It will be a 10 round prestige fight at 64kg max.

We now have 2 of the biggest fights in the past few years on our £4£ World Awaits show.

If you have not seen either Cox, Hamilton, Orchard or myself fight please come down and support the show, as you never know how much longer these guys will be in the bussiness.

Tickets on sale from next week
A Paypal link will go live on www.marlonhunt.co.uk then also.
Tickets will also be available by cash and cheque from participating camps, David Lloyd Centre in Ipswich and myself.

Awesome match Marlon. We so wanted that fight but just a little too early for UNLEASHED. Good luck with it nevertheless!

Well done Marlon on getting this massive fight.This could be the last time we get to see some of these fighter fight. Gary might turn pro boxing, Marty might retire due to work commitments. defo not to be missed !!

Congratulations Marlon, Cracking fight to get. Probably in everyone's top 3 of fights we would all want to see. Well done

All 4 of us are looking forward to our fights.

Few spaces left for AM FC fighters from England if interested lease contact me ASAP.

awesome news!

Excellent news.

Thats defo gonna be fight of the year...

Wen u back in the ring barinder? would love to see u

Yes both fights are going to be wars.
I kept this fight under wraps for a long time as there was a lot of red tape to go through, but both camps are happy and it will be a pleasure promoting this fight on my show.

Orchard is one of the most technical fighters in the business and standing at 6'4 uses his height well.
I'm going down to 78kg, as I have proven myself from Light heaveyweight up to Super cruiser weight and want to fight the best fighters in the World.

Gary and Marty Cox want to battle it out to see who truly is the best at Super Light Weight.

The name for the show is very fitting as these are fights that the kickboxing community have talked about for a long time and all 4 of us want to be known as the £4£ best FC Kickboxer in the world.

And yes this maybe the last time you see some of the fighters in a FC Ring again, so make sure you buy your tickets and be part of history.

I'm loving some of them belts... I want some :)

Me 2 :)

Tickets will be on sale in next couple of days on www.marlonhunt.co.uk through Paypal on Events Page.

If you want to pay by cash or cheque please contact myself on
marlon-hunt@hotmail.co.uk
07792735238

So who do you guys think is going to win between Marty and Gary?

MARTY all day long! :)

gary i would say:P cant wait for this show tho:D any news on who ronnie clark is fighting yet marlon?:P

I'd say Gary too, the guy is as strong as an ox!

I have spoken to all the relevant people before I posted this and I regret to inform you that the match between myself and John Orchard will now not go ahead.
This is at no fault of John Orchard or Carl Samms.
I came to the decision the other day, as there is a lot of politics and badmouthing behind close doors in FC Kickboxing for a long time and a few other reasons which just tipped the boat for me and made my decision easier.
I will not go into the finer points on a public forum, but to be honest I have had enough of it at this point in time.
I want to have a break from FC Kickboxing for 6 months and see how I feel about it at the beginning of next year.
I personally feel I have proven myself not just in the UK, but worldwide in FC from Light Heavyweight right up to Super Cruiserweight by being undefeated in Pro FC and the 1st guy in a long LONG time to bring the WAKO PRO FC World title back to the UK and unifying it with the ISKA FC World Title.

FC does not get the credibility it deserves even though credible fighters and champions work just as hard as any other in sports which get massive TV coverage.
It’s just not right or fair, but it’s because people/camps/promoters can not or do not want to work together.

I also have the opportunity to fight under Andree Maanaart & Mejiro Gym in K1 bouts in Holland, which I have wanted to do for a long time. The sport of K1 excites me like FC Kickboxing once did and to be honest the money is a whole lot better and I do have a family and kids to think of which will always be my 1st priority above everything else.
I will still defend my FC World titles when the time arises off credible challenges which the organisations have agreed to and all FC enquiries still go through CJP.

The show on Oct 10 is still going ahead with the Marty Cox Jnr vs Gary Hamilton fight in the main event with a full line up TBA.
I will not be fighting FC on the show or any show for the next few months again unless I HAVE to defend my World titles which I will do.

This decision should not reflect on John Orchard as he is a great fighter and champion, but my decision came from circumstances surrounding FC itself.
I can not give 100% to a fight or sport that I no longer 100% believe in.

I hope you all understand and respect my decision.

Regards

Marlon “The Game” Hunt
6 x FC World Champion

I will still defend my FC World titles when the time arises off credible challenges which the organisations have agreed to and all FC enquiries still go through CJP.

Orchard not credible enough ???

I am gutted , first fight for years that i was prepared to spend my own money and travel to watch.

Everyone complains that the big fights don't happen and the top boys avoid each other here to keep their 'champ' status . And when one does we get a pull out .

Were contracts not signed for such a big fight ? surely this would be in breach of contract ?

In the interests of clarity the International Kickboxing Federation (Europe) wishes to make public its decision to withdraw sanctioning of the forthcoming event on October 10th promoted by Marlon Hunt. This will not in anyway be an IKF event and any fighters appearing on it should be aware of this.

Mr Hunt has after months of hard work and negotiation withdrawn from a challenge for the IKF World Super-middleweight against John Orchard, a fighter generally considered to be pound for pound the best fighter in the country and a Champion that we at the IKF are very proud of. It is our opinion that he has acted in a manner that we feel is not in the best interests of the sport in general and more importantly has potentially harmed the career of John Orchard, whose career has been on hold whilst the many demands of Mr Hunt have been met.

With these and other factors involved in mind we feel that it will be in the best interests for all concerned if we withdraw our sanction for this event.

marlon you hve mail

Gutted to say the least !

Marlon you wrote : .. FC does not get the credibility it deserves even though credible fighters and champions work just as hard as any other in sports which get massive TV coverage.
It’s just not right or fair, but it’s because people/camps/promoters can not or do not want to work together.

Do you not feel that its fights like this that give the sport credibility , also no matter how big the dream of fighting in Holland is when u commit to something especially something this big it becomes a priority , how much would a another 2 months delay on holland really effect it ?

As we all know holding a world title does not mean youre the best in the world , and no dissrespect i hold ur achievements in high regard but no matter how many world titles u win there is that next level and i feel the fight with john orchard would have been that next level.

There will be politics in any sport i only wish you could rise above it rather than bow out short

There is no malice intended at all in the above post , i just feel its a great loss and maybe even potentially damaging tp the sport that i ... and yourself love

Have to say i am absolutely gutted about this result! I understand what it is like to have your motivation suffer and your heart not be in something at certain times and can only imagine the level of anxiety those feelings would cause for those competing at such a high level of the sport; as both these fighters do; so my heart goes out to Marlon as feeling like that is not a nice place to be.

But have to say as a fan and participant of the sport i am absolutely gutted at this setback. I was so excited for this fight and the credibility and recognition it would bring to the sport. Both fighters are proven world class performers and with Marlon having blazed a trail through the World Titles at the higher weights and clearly on his way to K1 what better way to bow out of the sport than to fight THE widely accepted pound for pound UK number 1? Both fighters have done amazing things in the sport and i am inspired by and look up to both of them. I feel however that with Orchard having occupied the top spot for so long it would have been a step up in class for Hunt from World class to the absolute elite (where Marlon has earned his place) and would have sealed or confirmed both mens legacy. Genuinely hope this doesnt end up being the one that got away, as while i feel that John has been around at the top long enough to go down as a legend either way, i feel that Marlons rise while; awe inspiring and rapid; needed this fight to cement his status and legacy and leave all questions answered. Hope this can be rematched asap!!!

if john is looking for a replacement , due to micks love of the sport he'l jump in ,,,, ;)

bit dissapointing really - the credible thing is to honour commitments, and then to use a lack of credibility as an excuse is a little weak. FC with all its warts was there before the dutch offer, and was good enough then, all thats happened is a better offer came along.

i feel passionate about contributing to this thread because alot of up & coming FC fighters look up to you, and what your excuse does here is kick them in the bollocks by saying what they are striving for is worthless.

i would still think it was unprofessional of you to pull, but could find more respect if you were at least honest instead of white washing it by blaming FC - some of us work very bloody hard to provide credibility to fighters and i'm not prepared to have that hard worked slighted by being used to cover up unprofessional decisions.

its people like you that people like me are gratefull for ususally, as good examples - but i'll finish with what i started - its all a bit dissapointing.

bit of a shame this not happening, but i really think Orchard would have given Hunt a bit of a lesson in this fight. From what i've seen of Hunt on p4tv he's not exactly a come forward aggresive fighter so i think Orchard would have used those long arms and legs to pick him off at range, and maybe hurt him to the body.

As others have said, it's a bit lame blaming a pullout on the sport of kickboxing, everyone knows it's not a big sport and fighters don't really get what they deserve, but it's been that way for years, nothings really changed so why put the boot in more by pulling out of a big fight?!

Doesn't really make sense i'm afraid...

anyway, hope Orchard gets something else sorted and hope Marlon finds what he's looking for in his next fight

what about stuart davies lad,the boxer,he seemed keen to match john.

Was really looking forward to this fight but can,t say i,m suprised its not
happening,Orchard would have been a real test for Marlon and having collected his mass of world title bouts there was alot to lose,
Ive been around the kickboxing scene along time and the recent improvements have been massive but the biggest problem is still the same old one of sub standard world title fights(and champions) so its even more gutting when the chance of a genuine world level title fight gets pulled.
Have to say Julie Kitchen puts a lot of these people to shame by challenging and fighting everyone out there under any rules up and down the weights.

think this is really disapointing regarding the pull out, Pulling out not going to make kickboxing any better in which in alot of posts in past is what marlon wants. This would have been a big test and would have been diference in getting classed along side the fighters such as john orchard. And Lex Easdon has also won the wako pro middleweight world title,He has also won the iska too.Just to correct the part saying u were first fighter in a long long tme:) hope the shows still a cracker and see this fight sometime soon:D

Hi guys.

I have given more than 3 months notice for reasons I feel are good enough not 3 weeks or 3 days.
I was the one that went for the fight in the 1st place.
I was the one that was going to promote the fight to boost the publicity of FC Kickboxing.

I am the one going into the ring and takes the punches and kicks no one else, so if my head and hart is not in the sport anymore should I be in a FC ring??
I think not!!

My feelings for the FC scene have changed and with other factors coming into it lately was how I made my decision and as agreed with IKF UK by email I am not going to go into them on a public forum to tarnish the sport further so please don't call me unprofessional guys.

I have been nothing but honest and respectfull to Carl and John through out and yes they must feel let down which anybody will, but pullouts be it personal or otherwise happen all the time.

Yes I also have the chance to fight K1 infront of 30-40000 people min on It's Showtime events in Holland then Japan.
Tell me 1 person that would not go for that opportunity!!!

As stated I have a family and they will always come 1st no matter what anybody thinks

That is why you see so many people leave FC to go either into Pro Boxing K1 or MMA.

People that know me know I loved the sport of kickboxing with all it's faults and I promoted it as best as I could, but there has come a time where even I can not take it anymore.

This is the last time I comment on this on a public forum.
You can find my email though my profile

My show on Oct 10th is now an ISKA sanctioned event with the main event still being Marty Cox Jnr vs Gary Hamilton.

as a friend of marlons there must be an eligitement reason for this( i dont know) this is my opinion, gutted as this would of been a blinder, i can understand everyones dissapointment but hard to comment on if we dont know the whole thing, i know marlon has had his eye on k1 and ufc for a while now, so maybe these things come at the same time and a decsion had to be made, as he said wife and kids to feed as any fighter out there nothing can stand infront of there siblings.my only question is who will sanction the show now ????????????

It was already agreed when the fight was pulled that ISKA will sanction the event.

we posted at the same time m8 but your got there first lol

Dissapointing!

Very disapointing given all the hype from Marlon about being Pound 4 Pound. In my opinion John would of beat Marlon that I am sure of but pulling out of a fight once you have committed to it after it has been publicised to this level is a little Embarassing to say the least!

The only genuine reason for pull out could be at this stage is serious injury or personal circumstance which would prevent Marlon from training. But with 3 months to go?

Once you commit to a show as a promoter, coach or fighter you should attend. Call me Old School but that is the way it is. Any other excuse or reason is poor and not very professional.

If you had made this decision before the fight was agreed or hyped then some people would of been more sympathetic. But after is poor and as such will leave everyone to come to their own conclusions about why you have pulled out.

Particulary as you talk about credible challenges well this is one surely!!! not neccessarily to your ISKA & WAKO Title but you as a World Class Fighter.

Given Marlon was fighting in his own town. If Game Promotions had promoted this fight and show properly then it could of been an opportunity to earn more money surely than fighting on someone else show abroad. Maybe not as easy option!

Dean

I have to agree with Dean . My initial reaction was more one of dissapointment at a fight being off that i really wanted to see.

But looking looking at the situation properly, i think it's obvious to the educated whats going on.
It's business i understand that ...but it doesn't make it morally right .
If Marlon fights John and loses (which just in my personal opinion he definatly would have)then all the K1 opportunities dissapear . A big risk , and from a financial/managers point of view probably a mistake.
I assume with it being Marlon's show that contracts would have been his responsibility , no mention of them yet ?
i personally don't believe the dissilusionment line either, if true then i dont think i would want to fight at all , or if i thought i would win ,bow out proving all my doubters wrong .

To be honest i have never met Marlon so i can't speak on him as a person .
But after listening to his self promotion on here about 'world domination' and pound for pound champ status..this move seems even more unbelievable . If respect in the fight game is the goal then ducking the widely perceived best wont earn it . If it's just money , then it's the right decision i guess.

Being 'Game' obviously means different things in different cities?

ouch.

holy backfire Batman!

£4£ The world awaits and waits and waits and waits and gets let down:(

Respect takes time to earn and seconds to lose.

Regards

Dean

Your right Dean Perks it takes years to get your respect up and seconds to lose it because the thing is it doesn't matter what you do in the sport of kickboxing who you beat, how much you represent UK what you win there are always the clicks and groups specially here on AX that will moan at what you do because you are not in with their group.

It must be a British FC thing but they never like to see people do well they are always wanting the fighters to mess up or lose, so they can slag them down because they have nothing else better to do.

I had to sit down and think am I still enjoying this sport?
Is this sport going in the right direction?
Is the politics and badmouthing behind closed doors going to stop?
Is it going to be as mainstream as other sports?
Is this sport going to provide for my family?

All answers were NO so I had to make a choice what I wanted to do for myself and my family and unfortunatally for John it came at this time.

I even told IKF UK to get a replacement fighter for John so he could still fight for the World title and you don't know the full story either, so please don't call me unprofessional.

Actually if getting away from politics, doing what I want to do in my life and looking after my families best interests is being unprofessional, then I must be the most unprofessional person in the world. lol

Ask yourself guys if you have been unhappy in your job for years tried to make it better and just get on with it, but no matter what you do you see it going nowhere would you still be there or would you get another job?

This is how I feel about the FC scene IMO.

If people don't like that then it's not my problem. I have been in this sport for too long trying to keep everybody happy apart from myself.

John Orchard: Our One & Only Statement Regarding This Contest.

There has been much communication in private between Marlon & myself and he is aware of our strong feelings. Anything I say here has already been discussed privately and all points of view established. I have no wish for tit for tat mud slinging on Ax so will not respond to any posts unless forced to do so.

* We are disappointed that Marlon has taken this decision.

* We feel that regardless of "Knowing the full story", none of this has anything to do with John Orchard and is not relevent to the staging of the contest.

* Whilst we all seem to argue all the time about who should be fighting whom, in this case the contest was set in stone, persued by Marlon and was generally considered a landmark contest. Regardless of any feelings towards the sport or leanings towards another we feel that the right thing to do was see out the commitment and then move on.

* With regards to a replacement fighter. Whilst not actually offered this (the communication ended before we got that far - and I was an instigator in that)John Orchard was never interested in the title, it was Marlon who chased and stipulated that. Orchard was interested in the contest against Marlon and would have fought for no title. As a promotional group we are able to get opponents anytime for Orchard on our own events. Therefore this was in no way considered a gesture of good will and it is unlikely - having been let down by the promoter himself that we would choose to then support the event (would anyone)?

* The majority of opinion here reflects our feelings and the knowledge of the "full story" would not alter that. Therefore there would be no real point in dragging this scenario out with the mass of points that could be made regarding the many aspects of this withdrawal and the various rumours that persist on the outside regarding any "real reasons" for this contest not being staged. What you see is what it is. Anything else is not relevent to John Orchard V Marlon Hunt.

* There is little else to say on the matter. Marlon feels he has acted correctly - we do not. Therefore there is no common ground and no way forward in this direction. As for suggestions of a "re-schedule", to save anyone even thinking that would be possible - it will never ever be considered.

* To finalise I would just like to answer a couple of questions that Marlon has posed.

"I had to sit down and think am I still enjoying this sport"?: If not, see out the committment and move on

"Is this sport going in the right direction"?: Yes, slowly, in a difficult fashion (for many reasons) but yes.

"Is the politics and badmouthing behind closed doors going to stop"?: No. Not here and not from Macdonalds to Microsoft. And especially not in K1. That's business, thats the world and thats what we all have to navigate on a daily basis.

"Is it going to be as mainstream as other sports"?: No, it's never been likely.

"Is this sport going to provide for my family"?: No and neither will K1. Any competitive income in this industry will always be secondary. It would be short sighted to rely on it.

"If people don't like that then it's not my problem. I have been in this sport for too long trying to keep everybody happy apart from myself": Seems a lot of people have had to keep you happy too, and many have now been let down.

Thank you for the information. Time to move on.

Regards
Carl Sams (On behalf of John Orchard)

The man has given 3 months notice. i don't see any problem with that whatever the reason! why's everyone stressing shit happens. I don't know Marlon and i don't think i've ever met him, but seriously there things happen no point having a go! now lets talk about marty cox and gary hamilton gonna be a wicked fight! can't wait :)

hi bee hi is things m8, hopefully no injurys this time and we can get down 2 business and put a show on!!!!!!!!!!!!

it's a shame, but these things happen, i just hope John will still fight, (winner of bartinelli/Nawaz?)

Cox/Hamilton gonna be the fight of the year!

Talking from the outsiders perspective (I consider myself an outsider to the FC community as FC is very much a "minority discipline" on my shows and also in my circle of contacts), I would say that Barinder Singhs post on here seems the most sensible. Same as Barinder said, I have never met Marlon or many of the others on here at all but personally think that 3 months is adequate notice.

However on the flip side, this thread and the show were all about who the best in that division was. I.E. the Undisputed best of FC pound for pound as well.
That is probably why everyone is stressing.
Also , from some of the recent covnersations on the phone i have had with people, this whole thread and consequently FC in turn have become a laughing stock!

When the main names in FC feel the need to "stress" as Barinder puts it and basically "take the piss" out of one of FC's greatest fighters it does not do a great deal for FC's image as a whole in my honest opinion. The above opinion is the same for a lot of "outsiders" like myself. In fact they think the whole thread has been reduced to bad comedy.

The problem with FC is to many poeple wont to be top dog and think they run the show ?? Egos and politics just read ax lol

Too many people think they run FC as a sport in general Highlander. You are right about the politics and other bullshit.
Also it seems to be one rule for one, and one rule for another. Thats why i put mainly K-1 and thai fights on my shows. I find the clubs easier to deal with, less egos and less bullshit.

John Orchard would toy with Nawaz!!!

Cox Hamilton will be awesome - have never seen Cox but have heard nothing but great things and have seen several of Gary Hamiltons on video and cant believe his physical strength and the power he has in hands and feet not to mention his variety and skill. Both lads have a strong claim for the £4£ title too so should be a cracker.

I saw marty cox fight years ago on one of Ali Jacko's promotions in london.
He was good then!

I'm all good Gary... Hope all is well over in sunny Belfast!!!
Looking forward to seeing you & Marty tear it up in October. Hope training is going well! Been a while since I seen the Pro-Kick team, Will catch up with you guys in October.

Respect
B

And I thought pro boxing was bad with all politics & bullshit as Farhad puts it.

but this thread and Dawns thread (A Request To The Fight Community)

SHOWS THAT Kickboxing can be just as bad if not worse,

every great thread on ax ( and there is some great debate ) allways seems to end

up with tittle tattle little snipes and backstabbing...

Get your heads together fellas an sort it out..

Or even better the personal attacks might be better by personal email..

pedro

get a grip ! .. its hardly back stabbing and bullshit , its few comments on a very big fight that has fallen through , i think everyone respects Marlon they have simply given opinions on it and it has now come to an end . There is far to much bull shit and back stabbing on here but i dont belive this is in taht catagory !

time to discuss the show i think .......... ;)

lets have predictions then fellas

Lets have it right!

Cant help keep reading these posts and excepting the different views and people sitting on the fence over this issue. My belief is that Marlon Hunt has been yet another fighter to bring the sport into disrepute. What ever way you try and dress this up, his lame excuse does not wash and he should honour his contract. Emails back and fourth agreeing purse, weight, title etc,etc to me is a contract and strengthened by him posting it here on ax.

I worked closely last year with the IKF, ISKA and GOLDEN BELT in trying to get some credibility back into the sport with all 3 organisations agreeing to suspend fighters, trainers and promoters who brought the sport into disrepute and glad to say that has worked well up until now. This behavior in such a high profile fight if allowed to be accepted will undo all the good and hard work done by many!

A fighter who broke his contract to fight for a British title on my Brighton show 18 months ago for the same reason as Marlon, that being he could get better money elsewhere, was suspended for a period of between 6 and 12 months by all of the above organisations. Surley this is far worse. Taking another fight for a better purse is not the same as having to pull out through injury.

Lets get it sorted out once and for all!

Steve Gosden

Whats the card reading like then guys?

Steve the sport of FC KICKBOXING has brought itself into disrepute.
That is why I made the decision to leave the sport.

I asked them 5 questions to myself and other reasons cropped up also and it made my decision easy.

K1 had nothing to do with it as I was going into k1 after the Orchard fight anyway

FC has been the same for years and years and will still be the same in years to come.

I have tried to make the sport more credible myself by unifying belts, putting on big production shows with WAKO PRO, ISKA and GOLDENBELT, was going to promote 2 of the biggest fights in the past couple of years on 1 show I have always been respectfull in this sport.
(You can read any old thread before or after I have fought an opponent and always been respectful to them.)

What makes me laugh is people moan cause of what I have done in the sport, now people are moaning cause I want out of the sport.

WHAT'S THAT ABOUT!!!

As for K1 if you was a devision 2 football player and got the chance to play for say Real Madrid please don't tell me nobody would not take the opportunity!!

The fight game is a short lived career and you must take all opportunities you can.

I have done what I have wanted to do in FC can not see a future in it and I am moving on.

Why have people got a problem with that??

Do you not think I don't know what is going to happen regarding rankings etc etc just because certain people don't like which decisions I have made for my own show production or career.

I did not have to put a statement here on AX. I could of just left it with a statement to IKF, but I did it out of respect for the kickboxing community to let them know what's happening.

If you read the thread you can now see exactly why I do not want to be in the sport anymore.

And Mr Gosden did Stacey not want to defend his British title because he was looking at getting bigger things and bigger titles?

He was also not injured

Does this mean Stacey should also be suspended in your eyes?

As stated if you don't want to comply with the politics they will run you down.

Marlon,

Lets not start bringing other fighters into this, if you are asking why Stacey is not on your show, the main reason is simple, he is committed to Steve Kerridges show at the Circus Tavern and has been for months. That is the difference between you and him, he is a true profesional and will see out his commitment. The other reason is, as we have all found out, you are untrustworthy and as his trainer i would not bring him or any other fighter of mine to your shows. Keep mugging yourself off for the world to see, just maybe FC is better off with out you if you cant take the criticism!

Steve Gosden

FC has more fighting going on outside the ring than it does inside the ring at the moment lol IF fc is a family were not a very happy one ?

Totally agree with Highlander! The politics in FC are terrible. There are some people in this game, who if you disagree or fall out with them, you have well and truly fucked it!
They will rip you apart on AX and bring up every little thing they can (which they probably wouldnt have brought up had you agreed with them).
I find it really surprising how someone can be flavour of the month one minute, and the next minute everyone turns on them and their name is Dirt all of a sudden.
One time it was Dell Mann, everyone got all pally pally with him one minute, next minute all his friends have gone! There might have been other reasons for it, i dont know (ive heard a few ideas, but really dont care).

This time it is Marlon, who knows who is next on the chopping block ? (maybe me for being the outsider and posting on here? who knows?)

My point exactly Farhad and watch out as you MAY be next!!! lol.

Now people can see the true colours of British Full Contact Kickboxing and exactly why I want no part of it.

It's all about the clicks and groups that want to monopolise the sport and if you don't join rank or do as they say they will get on the phone and emails to their mates to do all they can to make you look bad.

I gave 3 months notice for this fight not to happen on MY OWN SHOW (no one elses) because of things like what is happening on this thread right now.

You expect anybody would have the desire to fight when the FC scene is like this?

You can call me what you want, but I know deep down in my hart and I think many other people reading this thread will realise now also that I made the right decision to walk away from this sport.

It's a real shame cause if stuff like this was not going on the fight between myself and John would still be on.

Yes politics happens in all things, but there is only so much of it you can take before you want nothing more to do with it.

You won't get anymore comment from me on this matter on an open forum you all know my email :)

Ps I hope the bad comments on this thread has not taken anything away from the Marty Cox Jnr vs Gary Hamilton fight.

This is possibly the final time you will see these guys fight in FC Kickboxing as Marty has work commitments and Gary is going into Pro Boxing.

What ever happens on the night I wish them both the best in their careers after FC.

Im with you farhad now were both in trouble lol

"Now people can see the true colours of British Full Contact Kickboxing and exactly why I want no part of it".

"Yes politics happens in all things, but there is only so much of it you can take before you want nothing more to do with it".



So I suppose after all that said you still intend running a "FULL CONTACT" show - or have all the fights been switched to "Thai or K-1" - cos theres definitely no policics in those noble arts (LOL)

Politics even! Lol

Pete my family from ireland can i come home lol

Sure Mike - we'll give you a real Irish Homecoming - Don't suppose you have an Amatuer 95 KG Heavyweight lying around that may need a weekend away? LOL

i do have one with 7f 6w but he out injured broken foot mate next time love to come over ? his name jon edge he wrsa celtic champion amateur

The show is on September 19 - and we can do K-1 or FC - think your boys foot would be ok by then?

yes mate be ok then starts training again next week

Ok - send me your contact details to pfugym@hotmail.com and lets see if we can match it up.
Will Jon do K-1?

no legs kick 4 jon

I'm sorry but this has nothing to do with politics for me ....
and everything to do with backing up what you say ..like i said , i don't know Marlon. Yet he has self publicised himself to the point that i have been reading about 'world domination', £ 4 £ ,i've done this, i can do that ,for god knows how long.
I looked at the fights of his i could find to see what all the fuss was about .

Then for my money a 'great opportunity' to back up what he say's comes along ..again Marlon himself tries to whip up a frenzy, for months on here and anywwhere else that want to know ..and lets us all down .
That's why people are pissed off .
If Marlon was a quiet , turn up and fight ,do my talking in the ring type . I don't think he would have got this reaction.
But if you put yourself on a pedestal be prepared to walk the walk or be knocked off. And a lot of people seem to think he hasn't that's it .
Nothing personal , nothing political.

Mind you some of what people are saying DOES make sense.

I am going to play devils advocate here,

On one hand 3 months is plenty of notice for a pull out i think.

On the other hand Jimmy Taurus is right in saying that Marlon has talked himself up absolutely loads!!!

When i told Marlon that he stands a snowball in hell's chance against Christian Di PAolo under K-1 rules he nearly bit my head off.

I spoke to many fight fans who watched that fight and I got the response that with Marlon it was "tippy tappy tippy tappy,..." while Chrsitian was "BANG! BANG! " (i.e. big heavy body kicks and big punches)
Against Christian under K-1 rules, big heavy kicks will cause more damage (i DREAD to think how dangerous Christian would be to Marlon under THAI rules with elbows,.. OUCH)

Again on the flip side Marlons argument would be "if you have it flaunt it"

But on the flip side to that one, I saw Marlon have a right go at Jamie Bates about Jamie's suggestion that he fight some european guy. One of my junior students read that thread and came to the gym telling me that " That Marlon Game Hunt has been having a go at Jamie Bates,.. blah blah blah,.. and used some colourful language to describe Marlon"

Mind you as par as pecking orders go , im far below Marlon in the pecking orders so I shouldnt even be allowed an opinion should I ?


In the never ending struggle between Good and Evil, who is right and who is wrong?

Here it seems to be "The whole FC community of GB" (Well the IKF mostly plus pretty much everyone else ,...) VS Marlon the Game Hunt 6 time world champion undefeated.

Who is right and who is wrong???

If you ask me its 6 of one and half a dozen of the other.

Again , nothing personal nothing political. I havent even spoken to Marlon on the phone let alone in person so I shouldnt support or gang up againt him.
Im neutral once again BUT id be lying if i said i wasnt interested in reading everything that follows.

In the same spirit of standing together over medical suspensions, the Golden Belt is happy to stand with any other Organisation or Association and disciplinary action taken, if requested to do so, for the good of the sport.

Alby

Anyway, any news on other matches on the card ?

I have a couple opinions on this - 3 months i feel, whatever the reason is sufficient notice to pull out of a fight. I think Marlon may have realised he'd bitten off more than he could chew. Orchard in my opinion is one of the pound for pound best fighters around, however i wouldn't class Marlon in the same bracket. Maybe he realised this too and decided to get out. Orchard would have been to slick and to quick for Marlon and i predicted a late stoppage. Marlon would have had size advantage by stepping down but i think Orchard would have made him look slow and clumsy. Good luck to Marlon when he turns to K1. I hope he fullfills his dreams and earns the money he thinks he will. I'm not convinced however and would predict a return to FC after a few lessons learnt.

Once again on the flipside, Marlon did talk himself up BUT, if hes not going to market himself, who is going to do it for him?
Marlon simply did what any marketable fighter would do. Shouted his mouth off on forums so that people would notice him. Nothing wrong with that if it sells tickets , right?

would all these people still be saying the same or thinking it and not saying it if marlon had not pulled ?????????

of course they would and plenty did, all about opinions on AX..

most of em faceless but hey why hide..

NO NAMES --- NO PROFILE --- DONT COMMENT

pedro

i would say no ones pound for pound king in this division without defeating lex easdon i mean co mon lets be real

Lex who?? LMAO
You got a point Sam.

I still have a lot of respect for Marlon for what he has acheived in the sport. You dont get given world titles! He has fought some tough opponents and won. How is irellevent.
I am as dissapointed as anyone that he has pulled from this fight as it was without dought going to be his toughest test to date.
I think the criticism is fair as is the praise. Celebrities live in the eye of the media and get both positive and negative publicity. Some of it sells there product and some of it shows they are just human.
Is Marlon any different? Other than he is self promoted.
My only criticism is that he pulled out for the wrong reasons.IMO

All the best with the show and your journey into K1.

Regards

Dean

Lex is the man always has been always will be :)

I have a full statement with ALL the reasons why I pulled out of this fight.
If you want it you can email me and I will email it back to you.

If there are additional reasons that I have not been made aware of could you email it to me please.

Thank You
Carl Sams

Marlon deserves ALL the publicity he gets positive OR negative. Like Dean says he fought some tough guys (e.g Christian Di Paolo).
Everyone in the lime light will always get positive and negative publicity.

Doesnt matter wether you are Marlon Hunt, Kerry Katona , Britney Spears or the incredible Hulk!
Publicity and being high profile brings its positive and negative aspects.
People will always have good and bad things to say.
Nothing different , the minute you are an icon you are putting your head on the chopping block. All in all the drama Marlon and the IKF's little fall out has brought onto AX is interesting.

Easdon v Orchard? Unleashed 2? magb? Absolute Adrenalin?......etc

PLEASE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Shouldn't be saying things like that Dean you'll have people sellin their arse to get on that one.

Id probably attend that one myself Alan! As a spectator.