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Pitbull Promotion 27/4/02

this is the promo for the upcomin pitbull promotion - 27th april 2002. c ya there....

BULLET

hey guys is there a fight card ready yet. I know there can be some pullouts before hand but some info would be nice


Birdman

Is it true that fox sports are looking for a new promoter since Tarik has gone pay per view???

The pitbull promotions would be ideal as they feature fair match ups and usually 14 or more fights.

Hi Guys here is the proposed card so farbut we are still over a month away so it will probably change a bit over the next few weeks.
 Saturday 27th April 2002
BLUE RED
SUPER LIGHTWEIGHT KICKBOXING BOUT SPONSORED BY CASTLE HILL RSL CLUB. (3X1.5)
Jake Abbot VS Damien Rees
TENKAI SURU MARTIAL ARTS SOUTHERN FIGHTING ARTS
LIGHT HEAVYWEIGHT KICKBOXING BOUT SPONSORED BY WENTY DAY & NIGHT CHEMIST. (3X1.5)
Luke Abbot VS Jason Lamb
TENKAI SURU MARTIAL PITBULL KICKBOXING & MUAY THAI
WELTERWEIGHT KICKBOXING BOUT SPONSORED BY EAGLE NEW & USED TYRES. (3X1.5)
Mihajlo Michael Savic VS Oscar Cemali
UNIVERSAL FREE STYLE MARTIAL ELITE MARTIAL ARTS & FITNESS
WELTERWEIGHT KICKBOXING BOUT SPONSORED BY PETER’S MEATS. (3X1.5)
Matt Kimb VS Arron Collins
PHOENIX KICKBOXING MOREE P.C.Y.C.
FEATHERWEIGHT KICKBOXING BOUT SPONSORED BY DR.PAUL SINGH. (3X1.5)
Adam Stanmore VS Mark “The Snake” Montinelli
AKIBO KICKBOXING PITBULL KICKBOXING & MUAY THAI
SUPER MIDDLEWEIGHT KICKBOXING BOUT SPONSORED BY KNIGHT BRIDGE QUALITY MEATS. Mark Stubbs VS Kelvin Hill
PHOENIX KICKBOXING TKO KICKBOXING
MIDDLEWEIGHT BOUT KICKBOXING SPONSORED BY THE PISSHEADS (3X1.5)
Aron Taylor VS Jason “Mr. Smiley” Edwards
SOUTH WEST KICKBOXING PITBULL KICKBOXING & MUAY THAI
SUPER CRUISERWEIGHT KICKBOXING BOUT SPONSORED BY CARNEY’S BRICKLAYERS (3X1.5)
Matt Cameron VS Brenden Wilkins
MANLY FIGHT GYM ULTRAFIT
SUPER HEAVYWEIGHT ORIENTIAL RULES BOUT SPONSORED BY KARL HOLDSWORTH THE GOOD GUYS (3X1.5)
Nathan Ejndu VS Trent “Double Whopper With Cheese” Gough
TAIPAN MUAY THAI PITBULL KICKBOXING & MUAY THAI
SUPER MIDDLEWEIGHT MUAY THAI BOUT SPONSORED BY KARL HOLDSWORTH THE GOOD GUYS (3X1.5)
Peter Karavatakas VS Nando Sosa
TAIPAN MUAY THAI PITBULL KICKBOXING & MUAY THAI
SUPER WELTERWEIGHT ORIENTIAL RULES BOUT SPONSORED BY KARL HOLDSWORTH THE GOOD GUYS (3X2)
Kevin “The Anvil” Aursich VS Adam “Phuket M-16” Micallef
TENKAI SURU MARTIAL ARTS PITBULL KICKBOXING & MUAY THAI
LIGHT HEAVYWEIGHT KICKBOXING BOUT SPONSORED BY METROPOLITAN RADITATOR REPAIRS. (3X2)
Steve Nichols VS Raid Nucho
FULL BOAR KICKBOXING ELITE MARTIAL ARTS & FITNESS
SUPER LIGHTWEIGHT KICKBOXING BOUT SPONSORED BY CASTLE TROPHIES. (3X2)
Brian Cuzner VS Troy Hodges
PHOENIX KICKBOXING AKIBO KICKBOXING
WKA NSW SUPER LIGHTWEIGHT KICKBOXING TITLE SPONSORED BY BOUT SPONSORED BY S.A.BRIGHT SPARK. (4X2)
Nathan “Captian” Cook VS John “Popeye” Bonanno
TAUMAFAI THAI BOXING STABLES PITBULL KICKBOXING & MUAY THAI
WKA NSW SUPER CRUISERWEIGHT KICKBOXING TITLE SPONSORED BY THE CAR CLINIC (4X2)
Joe Baird VS Nelson “Tromp Em” Tromp
PHOENIX KICKBOXING PITBULL KICKBOXING & MUAY THAI

WKA AUSTRALIAN LIGHTWEIGHT KICKBOXING TITLE SPONSORED BY AUSKERB. (5X2)
Grant Turner VS Reinhard Badato
MOREE P.C.Y.C. FIGHT RITE

Presentation of the Tony Ghalloub Memorial Fighter of the Night Award. Raffle Draw.

WKA AUSTRALIAN FEATHERWEIGHT KICKBOXING TITLE SPONSORED BY LITHOMANIA FILM & PLATE MAKING. (5X2)
Katu “Wontok” Arrang VS Mark “Bullet” Vella
MOREE P.C.Y.C. PITBULL KICKBOXING & MUAY THAI

Hey Kickboxing Fan
Thanks for the comments about my promotions I am glad that someone thinks that they are of a standard good enough for Foxsport. I do get quite alot of comments from spectators at my promotions about why these shows are on fox. I really don't know why. They tell me that most of what you see on fox is crap. I wouldn't really know as I don't get time to watch I am normally in the gym training fighters or at Kickboxing Promotions with my them or working as a Ring Official of some sort. But once again thanks for the comments. Maybe you should speak to them.
pitbull

Ok Pitbull I will write to Fox and suggest it. At least they should come to the show and see for themselves. Thanks for the card it looks like an awesome night. I am sure that although some fights may change, the fans appreciate getting a taste of what is to come. Other promoters should take note and list their whole card as soon as possible. It gives the supoport fighters some exposure as well as promoting the main events. I am sure that there are some names on the undercard that will be future champions.

Hey I love the new style poster. Some good looking blokes up there but where are the chicks???????

Are all the guys on the poster actually fighting??? Sorry to ask but I have paid good money to see fights that never happened too often.

I am looking forward to this post as last time I laughed a lot at the good hearted comments that were posted, I hope this one proves as popular. Hey dont go to Fox Pitbull. Keep your shows a secret from the masses as it was crowded enough at the last show and the atmosphere is great. We dont need some of the people that attend some events coming to your shows.

The Stirrer

Great card, you've got people fighting from all over the state, accomodation costs must be huge. Keep up the good work. Nice to see you working with such an array of gyms

Birdman

The Vella and Kartu fight should be a howler, the master kicker v the master boxer cant wait, what do other think of this match up of popular fighters

The stirrer

Hi Stirer,
Yes at this point in time everyone on the poster is fighting.I know what you mean about paying good money to see fights and then they don't actually happen. I think that sometime this can't be helped due to the nature of the sport. But I also know that there are promoters out there that just put people's names or pictures on posters just to sell tickets. This sort of thing sux and gives all promoters a bad name with the paying public.

I am not too concerned about get my show put on fox. I just want to keep puting on good shows and keeping my customers and the fighters fighting on the promotion happy. Earlier this year about the end of January I had a phone call from a middle aged woman asking me about my next promotion. She said that last year her husband had attended my last promotion and had such a good time that he got her to ring me up and ask for the dates of my promotions this year. He wants to keep these particular weekends free because he had such a good time at the last one. Comments from people like this from people who are not really involved in the sport are sometimes the best rewards of all.

all the best & thanks for the comments
pitbull

what's happened to Nelson Tromp - Super Cruiser now? Did he indulge a bit over Xmas?? ha ha

On the other side of the coin - Didn't Nelson fight Kevin Aurisch last year? I see Kevin is now fighting M16 at Super welter shit that is a big weight drop.

Cheers
Dowgy

what's happened to Nelson Tromp - Super Cruiser now? Did he indulge a bit over Xmas?? ha ha

On the other side of the coin - Didn't Nelson fight Kevin Aurisch last year? I see Kevin is now fighting M16 at Super welter shit that is a big weight drop.

Cheers
Dowgy

Hi Dowgy,
How's it going mate. Yeah Nelson is going to fight at Super Crusierweight this time. He still can make 83kgs but I couldn't find anyone to fight him at that weight. So he thought the NSW Super Crusier weight title might be the go. If he wins this one he will have won three state titles over three different weights in a 12 month period. Not to bad for some who use to be a Super Heavyweight fighter. Hope you can make this promotion it is shaping up to be a good one. I have been working since Mid January an pretty much have everything set. The problem is that I have all these trainers ringing me to put their fighters on and I have enough fights scheduled as it is.
all the best
pitbull

yes dowgy, nelson is fighting at a heavier weight, he didn't want to be the left one out at pitbull guy not fighting on the show. he took the fight due to lack of opponents. should be a good one. just think, more weight behind those big punches and kicks now. LOOK OUT!!!

now i seems we have another addition to this thread... is the stirrer going to reveal themselves, or just another ghostly figure in the crowd. HAHAHAHAA LUV IT!!

c ya at the fights,
BULLET

Hi dowgy, lack of opponents caused me to fight super cruiser and I like the wieght, no deiting for me. I am not sure what weight I will settle at but if I can get matched I will fight at any wieght I can make, its all fun. Hope to see you at the show.

What do you think about the Bullet and Kartu fight???????

Bullet can take a big shot as his last fight showed and Kartu is not that comfortable against someone with a high kick rate......interesting

Birdman

I am surprised Tromp is back after the injury to his knee and leg at the last fight. He is probably 90 kilos cause he hasnt been able to run. He is only state level fighter anyway. Joe Baird will really challenge him, Joe hasnt lost a fight.

The Stirrer

Good on you Birdseye, how are you going for room with all those trophies and belts!!! I guess the same goes for you bullet!

The show looks great (especially good to see some bigger guys) I should be there for sure this time. If Sindy or Maurice are judging I'll scrounge a lift!

Bullet and Kartu will be a cracker, no offence but it must be good Bullet to fight someone shorter than you for once!

Hi Stirer
You must have been at the last show.What did you think of the promotion. There was a shit load of people there.
Nelson's preformance was excellent. I know he didn't win but after watching the video tape I seen him stuff his leg up inthe second round. He either hit Andrew's elbow or something. Thats why he couldn't check with left leg. Not because that leg was damaged. It was because everytime he tried to lift his left leg to check the right one would almost collapse from the injury he suffered in the 2nd round.
Anyway I hope to see you at this one, I am already getting phone calls about the show and I have done no Advertising yet, could be another big one. Lets hope so.
pitbull

if you're looking for opponents birdseye, there's a super 8 cruiserweight tourney here in NZ in July...plenty of good competition there...there's a thread on here somewhere with the promoter contact details etc....anyway, best of luck for the show!

no thanks Vince, no more kiwis for me. They have the hardest heads and are tougher than iron. Good to hear from you though. Hey do you know what happened to Andrew Banham, I heard he was going pro and fighting in Melbourne but now the is a new opponent???

Thanks dowgy for the compliment I am still going.

Hey stirrer, how many fights have you had. I know I am a journeyman, I am 32 years old but still competing with the younger guys, I love the sport and am happy to fight for any title, it is an honour.

Birdman

Pitbull can you explain the oriental rules is that elbows and knee???
How do you get away with that in NSW

Where is that fat Head AWESOME

Hi Vince
I think you talked with another one of my boys not too long ago. Something about fighting here in Australia on one of my shows. Lets see what happens later this year and I will see if I can do for you.
Nelson only likes fighting kickboxing at this stage, if he wants to compete with knees or full thai rules that is up to him. So I don't think the New Zealand tournament would suit him. Not to mention I have another promotion in late July and I won't him to fight on that. Maybe another rematch with Andrew Banham. but I have to check with his trainer Ben.
Cheers
pitbull

I saw Awesome at the last show he was looking fat and drunk. A poor has been that never was.

Birdseye I am a stirrer, who cares how many fights ive had. If I said I was the WKBF aussie champ would that mean anything to anyone...I doubt it titles and fights mean nothing

Hey vince when did you fight last, are you still losing wieght??

The Stirrer

awesome has retired from being fit and is now a walking heart attack waiting to happen. Please leave him alone, he needs our prayers.

kickboxing fan
I have had full thai rule & Oriential Rules approved by the department of sport for amateurs about 12 months ago. The thing is that they have to wear the protective equipment like in the I.M.F.A. world titles held in Thailand. Yeah I know that it sux but at least it's a start. We could not do anything before.
I had to threaten the Department with legal action as well. I got a barister who had just finished a sports law course to send them a letter on my behalf and that sorted them out pretty quick smart. The things we do for the love of the sport.
pitbull

dowgy, yes it is finally nice to fight someone shorter than i am, although i am no giant, not the tallest guy goin around either. HAHAHA. there can never be enough room in my room for my belts and trophoies. they mean so much to me, and i just want more. Birdseye just starts wearin all his now casually with jeans or a pair of pants - quite the fashion now i hear in quakers hill...

LOL

BULLET

What are you guys talking about... I'm still super fit and AWESOME. Paul, Bullet and Nelson, good luck for the fights.

great to hear from you awesome, good to know that your tiny brain is still able to generate enough power to get your body moving. Love your work buddy. Will you be at the show????

Good on ya Bullet. I have never thought of wearing my belts with my jeans but now I know you do I suppose its acceptable. Hey dowgy you know bullet will only fight for titles these days cause he was sick of having to get someone else to carry his trophies. They were always taller than him and far too heavy, he even has to wrap the belts around himself twice so they fit on - see what you get when you give it to me bullet!!! Oh yeah baby, Ive got heaps more of em so bring it on


Birdman

I disagree Stirrer fights and titles do mean something. Good on you if you are a WKBF title holder, you had to do the work and get in the ring. Each fight is a challenge in itself with your first fight usually being the hardest. I respect everyone who gets in the ring regardless of the sanctioning body. In the past some organisation have been happy to have aus titles with people with under 5 fights on their record and coming from adjoining suburbs. When you get the title only you know what that really means, if can live with yourself and truly call yourself a champion good on you.

I hope Joe is a hard man, more the recognition for me when I beat him.

Birdman

Birdy

Have you ever fought/thought about fighting Jason Mansfield (Kulus)?? He is listed as Super Cruiser in IK but not sure how active he is.

Even his brother Corey is Cruiser I think?

Cheers
Dowgy

Both Jason and Corey are active fighting out of the Bulldog Gym.
If your interested in fighting either one you should contact Nick Stone

Hi Rochelle

How long have they been with Nick Stone? Do you know why they left Rick (they had been with Rick for at least 9 years)?

Cheers

ur a classic birdseye.


BULLET

Hey Dowgy

They have been training with us for the last few months

Not to sure on the reason though.

Hi Bulldog

Taking the govt. to court sounds interesting, I heard the Australian health minister is pushing for an eventual ban on boxing. How difficult is the legal side of things? And what if you have an international opponent, can they fight for Thai rules (elbows)?

Hi Jones
I am not too sure of legalities with full Muay Thai in the State of New South Wales as far as the Professional side goes. I got it set up for the amateur side of things for the WKA & the Thai Boxing Association of Australia in NSW. I will start trying for the pro side of things later this year, when I get some time. But dealing with the Authority is like banging your head against a wall. I think if you have two international fighters fighting in this state there is a loop hole somewhere in the legistation. It really sux because it is the only state in Australia where this type of thing happens. Even the Professional fighters have to wear shin pads here.
I think the minister should look at sports like Rugby League & Aussie Rules before he starts trying to ban combative sports in this country. First of all if you look at the statistics on serious injury and deaths you will find that these sports have more problem that combative sports. The only difference is Multi-millon dollar sponsorship deals that the ball sports have in this country.
pitbull

Hi Rochelle, I am flattered that you and Dowgy think I could fight the Mansfield Bros. Unfortunately they are a class above me at the moment one of them has a world title. One day perhaps. They have been around for ages, I didnt know they were with Nick know. They will improve again under Nick.

And before you ask, they are too, way too tall for Bullet
Birdman

hey Jonesy, he is the pitbull not the bulldog, dont confuse you dogs ok

Dont upset Bullet or he will go and stand under his bed and sulk.

Get it,.....stand under his bed....... I kill me ....heheheheheh

Hi Pitbull, sorry I called you Bulldog!

While I agree about Rugby and other sports, the boxing industry always seems to go on the defensive whenever anybody dies or is seriously hurt, rather than expressing sympathy, rather than talking about looking at how things could be improved they seem to be saying it's not our fault and other sports are worse. Weight loss through dehydration has been shown to be dangerous but what are the sanctioning bodies doing about it? What level of self-regulation is there in Australia?

For example, in Thailand Muay Thai is being promoted as something that can keep kids off drugs.

A lot of people in the sport seem to enjoy it's bloodsport image, probably the crowds most of all, who only seem to be happy if someone gets KOed. The calls for bans are probably linked more to the image of the sport than its dangers. Compare Ali and Tyson, Ali could call the rounds when the fight would finish and showed himself to be a highly principled man of tremendous character. While Tyson may not be as bad as the media shows him, he's still a convicted rapists who bites. Ali 'floated like a butterfly' lifting the sport up with him, Tyson depends on a KO (what the spectators want) and seems to be in moare brawls outside the ring.

I'm curious to hear your opinions a a promoter on this. Is it a dilemma for you when trying to attract crowds? Do you think that more could be done to show why it's called martial arts, such as emphasizing the fitness/training/skill levels? Do the crowds want shows that resemble a Van Damme movie? How much do fans understand the sport when they seriously talk about Mundine fighting Fenech, who's retired and much lighter?

Please don't take any of this as criticism

Hi Jones, that has got to be one of the most intelligent messages I have read on Ax for ages. Well done. You raise some very interesting questions. I am currently at work and unable to respond to your issues fully so please wait and I will offer my comments.

Thanks for raising the level of conversation

I agree KB fan. Well done "Jones" Let me think about it for a while, Ill get back to you


Birdman

Wow this thread filled up fast!..hi Birdman, i'm not sure what's happened to Andrew, i assume he's still fighting (saw somewhere he was fighting an ex-champ making a comeback?), good luck for your fight dude...hey Stirrer, i haven't fought since last december, been real busy lately, but hoping to get back in sometime in May, and i'm not sure i can go any lower than 71, lol...hi Pitbull, i'm not sure if Andrew would want a rematch after reading about the punishment he took in that fight, lol, nah he's a good guy...but me, yep for sure, if you need a middleweight fighter then keep us in mind, i'd definitely prefer knees and would consider full rules if someone's keen, cheers and best of luck for the show!

Thanks for the good luck wishes Vince. Hey everyone lets look after our ax buddy vince and get him over here for a fight soon so we can show him how us aussies drink. I met a lot of kiwis at the k1 this years and you guys know how to party.

By the way Vince dont feel sorry for Andrew, I couldnt walk properly for nearly three weeks AND he got the belt!



birdman

This thread fills up fast cause the people who post love having fun. Like the crowd who go to the fights, they just love the sport and the characters in it. Something about the pitbull that brings out the best in the fans and the fighters. Should be a great year as there are so many promotion scheduled.

Cant wait to read the next chapter in this thread, thanks

Jones, can I comment on the first paragraph of your post. More people die rockfishing in Australia than any other sport. There are more serious injuries of the footy feilds each weekend than there are in kickboxing each year although obviously the footy codes have a much higher involvement rate.

I think the one of the reasons the boxing/kickboxing officials get so upset at the critics is because so much is done to protect the fighters, especially at the amatuer level. Doctors must be present, the fighters are check before and after a bout and even though the judges may be off from time to time the referees take close care of the fighters and are often accused by the crowd of stopping fights early. If you are stopped by the ref it is automatic 30 day out. In footy you can go back on as soon as you come to.

Kickboxing is safer than boxing because of the nture of the sport. You have more target areas to attack, its not just head shots. Anyone who has done both will tell you that boxing hurts your head more than K-boxing. More to come



Birdman

Having 24 hr before the event wiegh ins helps reduce the injuries and effects of dehydration in kickboxing. Also the shorter rounds - 2mins instead of 3mins allows the fighter more time to hydrate. Footy players playing in 35 degree heat last weekend shows that some sports have a long way to go when it comes to protecting their participants. Even jockeys have to ride nearly all daty after fasting and usually losing wieght (water) in the sauna.

Again a lot of comparisons with other sports regarding safety, driving is far more dangerous than flying but still people fear the latter. It’s all about perceptions and image, that was my point in comparing Tyson and Ali. Ali is the world’s most recognized man, Sports Illustrated’s man of the century, voted man of the century in England, not just because of his amazing ability (and mouth) but because of his strength of character. I would be interested to hear any views on the image of boxing/Muay Thai and what sanctioning bodies are doing about it in regards to some of the points I mentioned earlier.

Jones, you cant turn a cow into a horse. Kickboxing is what it is. Trying to promote fights on the basis of spectacular kicks or dazzling combat is a touvh misleading. It is a tough contact sport. It is unfair to compare the charisma of Ali with anything in kickboxing or other sports. He was a freakish athelete and a incredible person. There are not many of those types of people in the world.

I believe the issue in kickboxing is more to do with sham promoters producing ordinary shows and poor trainers either pulling out fighters or having them unprepared for bouts. Kickboxing does not have the coverage that boxing has and therefore it is difficult to expose colourful characters. Withjout mainstraem coverage the sport will not grow. We cover world class athletes in nearly every sport known to man but aussie world champ kickboxers cant rate a mention. Its the same with Mundine. He gets quality coverage over much more qualified and deserving boxers.

Hi Jones
Don't worry I didn't take offence to the mis-confusion with the bulldog thing.
I like what you are saying in your thread mate.
Promoters who arrange mis-matches are doing the wrong thing. First of all it is unsafe. That is how are sport gets a bad name. Secondly I know there are promoters out there that do this so fighters,(some times fighters they train or other fighters who will line their pockets with dollars from ticket sales)can obtain an unbeaten record. What is the point of having an unbeaten record but everyone you have beaten has been a mug. What will happen to this type of fighter when they fight a class act. With the fighters I train I match them accordingly to the abilty but not just against fighters I know they are going to beat. Beating mugs will do nothing for them in the long run. When I match Title fights against my fighters I get the best fighters my budget will allow me to get. Other wise you just have paper champions.
I have also noticed in all the years I have spent in this sport as a Fighter,Trainer,Promoter & Ring Official that the majority of paying customers pay good money to see good fights not mismatches.

Hey Mark (BULLET), good luck mate. You're fighting one of my mates. Yous be a good match up, tough fight for both of yous. Let me know how it goes.
Good luck with the show Pitbull, should be a great one.
Julie

just wondering where pitbull fight from because if it is in sydney fox won't show because can't fight full thai rules or have to wear pads which most people don't like

dont worry about that, Pitbull shows go for around four hrs so fox can cut the bits they want to fit their programming. Its better to see some kickboxing from aus than the stuff theyve got at the moment.

dont worry about that, Pitbull shows go for around four hrs so fox can cut the bits they want to fit their programming. Its better to see some kickboxing from aus than the stuff theyve got at the moment.

kickboxing is a legitimate sport on its own. It is different to thai boxing or modified thai or oriental rules. There is support and interest in all the styles.

Hey stirrer, write your own messages, dont just copy mine.

What is all the fuss with these pitbull shows. I have never been to one. But after reading all the threads about his shows I think I better get along to one.
Last year one of the posts about his show had more hits than the K1.
They have to be better than most of the ones I have been to so far.I am sick of paying big bucks to see fighters I have read about in the mags I read because they are on the fight poster and when you get there on the night they don't fight. If his shows are so good why are they on foxsport. It has to be better than some of the stuff they are putting on at the moment.

jason get along and see the show. The last one went for over four hours. It started ON time and there were no fillers like demos or people doing pad rounds. The breaks between fights were just long enough to get each fighter to the ring as Paul hires two doctors so one can be ringside and the other check on the fighters who just fought.

Fighters pulling out in fairly common and at times unavoidable. What upsets me is when people are advertised when the promoters KNOWS they wont be fighting.

There does not have to be a promoters war, there are plenty of suporters to go to each show but poor shows do have a negative impact on the sport.

hey awesome, are you and bullet hanging out together??? I havent seen either of you on for a while. Dont be scared.

its a hot day in Sydney today and I think Bullet is standing under awesomes gut for shade. - Ding Ding Round one birdseye ahead on points.

seconds down............

birdman

hey birdseye, u know we aren't all meatheads like u. i have been at uni all day studying. i don't spend all my time on ax. hahahhaa but keep up the good work u tool. c ya at training.

as for awesome, u have to pay to see him now, the government have declared him as a protected hostorical site, more like an 8th wonder of the world. his stomach is a helicopter landing pad, and u can tour the great mountanous scenery for a good fee.

if there is anything else that compares in value to the pitbull promotions, it is this wonderful opportunity to see the wonderful scenery of awesome - so big that he has to buy two tickets to go to the next show.

Keep it up guys,

BULLET

does 'stirer' bring any credit to this thread or is he just another tool.

hahahahaa

BULLET

Hope to get along to the show, sink a few beers and enjoy a good nights entertainment. Will also be cheering for Bullet, Birdseye and the rest of the Pitbull crew (even if they continually put shit on me).

Just do me a favour and actually win this time... got ya :)

Hi Jason
if you come to the promotion please come up and say hello. It nice to meet fellow ax readers in person.It is also good to get feed back from the people who attend.
pitbull

hey awesome
you going to come back to the gym after the show for some serious turkey drinking. Or you so out of shape that even that will be too much.

thanks for the offer pitbull but i have to check the party calender before I say yes or no. But if there is no party I think I wil be there.

Hey I offer alot to this thread. At least Iam not the one going off on a thread of my own which shows pictures of me. he he he.

For those readers who havent met bullet those photos are life size he he he

awesome thanks for the tip, i will try and win this time. Ahhh the fans are so demanding.

I dont understand what a guy has to do. I am the best looking guy at the gym and yet Bullet gets his own thread with pictures and everything. It was only four months ago that Lucy Tui mistook him for a female....remember.


Keep up the training Bullet, he is on fire.

Birdman

Pitbull, the last time i partied with you it cost extra to pay the cabbie to clean up the mess :)
How are the boys shaping up... i see Adam M16 is having another go. Make sure he doesn't dislocate his shoulder going for the big KO again.
Stirrer - keep stirring these lunatics up... they like a bit of trash talk.

Birdman,
You are a classic. Will see at the bar after the fight.

hey awesome
or was that arsesome you won't have to worry about a mess this time. We drinking Turkey not that crap are American friends call Bud.

good to see you back on ax awesome. have you got that little bird device homer used in the episode where he was classed as legally obese and got then work from home..???

There are a couple of fights after mine so we can enjoy a few beers. Just try and pace yourself this time ok

NEWSFLASH

apparently John POPEYE Bannano believes he is the best looking guy at the Pitbull gym. Compare the pictures on the poster at the top of the thread. Popeye is on the bottom right and the birdman is top right. We all know which one is Bullet now that he is an ax superstar, even gettinh messages from Andreas.



Birdman

surely you dont mean the guy at the top left and right doing his best JNI style poster imitation

That guy is the pitbull you idiot. He is the promoter not afraid to take his shirt off. Remember some fans go to the shows to see the promoters

well the pitbull is lookin more buffed than u are mate. HAHAHAAA

BULLET

if you guys trained has hard as you posted I would have a gym full of world champs

lol

come on vince you have a wicked sense of humour and all you can contribute is LOL You are going to have to do better than that

yeah I know, he would win promoter poster boy of the year...notice how he even takes his shirt off at training now he is in shape...thatll get back



Birdman

lol

missed the bullet tonight....only had too much Paine. and snorky but paul punished us, probably for all the stupid posts. see ya thursday champ

i know mate see ya tomorrow u tool.

popeye doesn't compare, he is a joke by itself, without even speaking.

kickboxing fan - lol lol :-P

I know that Birdseye is Tromp, Bullet is Vella (no surprize there) but who the hell is awesome,kickboxing fan, and stirrer. Do you guys trainer with each other or are you just fans of kickboxing.

i have the answers for you jason... i just dont wanna upset anybody

well u are right, i am the bullet, and nelson is birdseye.

awesome is a hasbeen of the pitbull gym, yet shows his face at the shows and when he isn't watching tv he'll come to the gym for an occasional 5 minute visit

kickboxer fan proves to live to his name - a kickboxing fan, and thats all its about, at least he makes sense unlike awesome. probably because he is typing when he doesn't have food in his mouth.

and stirer i am yet to figure out because with a name like that, i think he is going to shake up ax from now on. his posts have been interesting yet challenging statements.

but keep up the work jason, and maybe u'll get back to us with some info.


anyay jas, where are u from??

I am concerned with the serious issues in the sport, no not head injures or crowd numbers but who is the PRETTIEST promoter. JNI Pitbull, Maurice Cooper, Zac Tamaufai, Nick Stone, Peter Brennen ( please note these are nsw promoters only) they have to win this round before progressing to the nationals

hey Vince :o) lol

Jason awesome is a former student of mine who spent more time blugging than he ever did training But I don't know who Kickboxing fan & stirrer probaly just fans that attend Kickboxing promotions in Sydney. I will keep you posted if I find out.

Well Peter Brennan is the only one to my knowledge who dyes his hair.

what are you trying to say dowgy that Pete Brennan is the winner.

I heard that Peter wears a wig

where is Jones. Thats not fair, you cant post a serious message and then take off. The public demand more.

hey dowgy, what are you wieghing now????? Ill give you Christmass Pudding... lol

did every one see that thread titled K1 corruption. HELLO - how naive are some people. I suppose its nice to think thats its all above board but hey find someone who can tell you exactly how someone qualifies for the end of year gig. Its a mystery...so they can get the fighters they want.

By the way, Frank Zammit fighting for a WKBF title........shame on you Franky shame

i am no. 100 yippeeeeeeee ha ha suckers

It's me again, after stirrers comment I just couldn't bear to be called the Buster Douglas of seriuos comments.

As for best looking promoters, this competions looking a bit dodgy, being a seriuos issue I feel there's a lack of transparency in the whole selection process, only promoters from NSW? Will they then be considered world champs? What about promoters with the best nickname? What about Don Kings hairstyle, doesn't that raise issues?

Seriuosly, though I was surprised by peoples comments re: the whole image thing. While KOs can be exciting, the best fighters seem to those who win on points and show fitness, ringcraft, technique etc. Look at JWP; won on points against a Thai in the US, 5 rnds tnon-stop, sounds like an exciting fight. Muay Thai has a heap of history and culture behind it, and boxing/kb/MT require a level of training probaly more than any other sport. Any of these Hollywood actors who have to undergo training to play a boxer in a movie will always say they're amazed at how complex and physically demanding it is. But people seem to prefer the whole tough guy thing, just my opinion.

Hey Birdy

I'm still around 78-79, but you know how it is being an old boy like myself it gets hearder and harder to stay that way. A couple of beers and before you know it you've put on 3 kgs's!

I'll come and say gday at the show (maybe after your fight so you haven't got the energy to clobber me!! LOL).

Cheers

stirrer
you must be a person of good character I like your comments on the WKBF world title. I agree with you there. I would rather have my fighters compete for a state title with the ISKA or WKA rather than fight for a made up world title that only exists in Australia.

Dowgy I will be 33 on the next show and you call me old man. You dont have to tell me about the dangers of beer and weight gain. Remember I know Awesome. lol.

Pitbull I cant blame a noice fighter from chasing a wkbf title or even an experienced fighter. But what will it mean to them. I cant understand Frank dropping out of what looked like a great fight with a reputable promoter to chase one of these titles.

The amount of sanctioning bodies weakens the legitimacy of the sport but at least each body should be true to itself. Look at ISKA in recent years their world title holders were against fighters from the US and Finland and I think France. Not Merrylands v Smithfield or New Zealand. I amnot knocinking NZ fighters, they are some of the best, but too often they are used because of their closeness. I beleive Frank deserves a shot at a world title but let him get a decent one. He would do us proud.

hey Jones are you from the US if so where abouts??

I think the WKBF made the mistake of thinking that all people where interested in were titles and therefore every show had a 'world' title. I dont doubt the abilities of any of their title holders but just the standard of opposition. ome of their stupid claims like Anthony Mundine will draw the raffle...a claim we heard at several shows but he never fronted. They should be more like other promoters and just have quality match ups to biuld their credibility.

They also seem to attract a different crowd to the well behaved crowds that attend other shows.

Kickboxing fan
I think that the WKBF is just a mistake. The sport is not big enough in this country for another sanctioning body particularly a bogus one. I have seen fighters with one or two fights fighting for national titles. And while my arse points to the ground I will never provide them with a fighter.

There have been a few rumours floating around that i am a fat, unfit piss head. Fact is that i am not fat or unfit...
Another myth i'd like to clarify is that Pitbull, Bullet, Popeye and Birdman are all butt ugly!!!! Are you guys blind - take a look at the poster, it speaks for itself.

hey awesome
We had a lot of fights to get this ugly mate. What's your excuse. Maybe you just get pissed too much and walk in to wall or something.

no paul, he is still recovering from that big fatty hamburger i saw him eating at the take awat shop. he got so big after that, it turned him into one angry dude, just going crazy with the food.

apparently, his mate once had to identify him, and the only way this was possible was from the brand of snack chips that were around awesome's mouth. very scary....

hey awesome apparantly Jenny Craig and Gloria Marshall are fighting for you business and want you to know that they have installed double opening doors now so you wont have to try and squeeze through their old doors.

Also the John Homes enlarger kit that you applied for has been rejected as they need at least a little one to start with and yours is too small sorry buddy I mean stumpy.

You are the only guy I know who has to put his belt on with a boomerang


Birdman

no point saying HAPPY easter to you awesome. A day filled by eating chocolate IS a HAPPY day for you. Go on, knock yourself out.

You hade definately been drinking whilst writting that last post of yours.



Birdman

Another myth i'd like to clarify is that Pitbull, Bullet, Popeye and Birdman are all butt ugly if you read that correctly you are clarifying that we ARE NOT butt ugly. Which is of course true. Paul wont train ugly people, thats why you had to retire

can you guys get back to talking about the match ups on the show just for something different

thats the spirit stirer

you guys are full of yourselves, and all Hairy arse Butt Ugly

When are you wka pussies going to fight with knees and take those girly stockings that you all wear when you have fights or protect your shins. when ??? are you going to have shows on FOXTEL ???? I havent seen one of your shows on there and yet I have seen WKBF shows, with good fighters like Stan the Man who has fought WKBF, Peter graham , and not to mention the current K1 WORLD CHAMPION who was a WKBF fighter MARK HUNT, what are you guys never heard of you's but through all the shit you's talk.

Oh "birdseye" whats that shit on your lips, Nah thats not shit on my lips "Stirrer" thats my mo-arse. Whats a mo-arse???? its a bit of Bum fluff that stops all the shit that I talk from spraying you in the face. OH I thought that you tickle Bitch pulls arse with it! I mean pitspull cause your head is so far up their.

Nickosis,

Paul has one of the most reputable fighting gyms in AUS, and himself had an outstanding career as a professional fighter. The fact that you do not know this is a reflection on your knowledge of the sport.

It is a government requirement that amateur fighters in NSW wear shin pads. So any sanctioning body, be it WKA, ISKA or WKBF fight held in NSW will see the fighters (amateur) wearing shin pads.

The boys are having fun. If you don't like the thread, don't look at it. Simple.

Grumpy

Hi Grumpy, long to no hear. Thanks for the back up. Poor Nickosis he writes the kind of dribble that is common on other web pages and is normally absent on ax.
This thread has and always will be an opportunity for some fighters and fans to have FUN the posts are usually in jest and privide some mild enertainment for some people.

Ill informed comments say more about the people speaking them than they do about those who are being spoken about.

As for the quality of WKBF shows, check the crowd numbers. Having great fighters is not sole way to have a great show.

happy easter

Birdman

Hey nickosis
I see you are up to the same bullshit again, bagging people for just having fun, you must be from Melbourne. Lose the attitude son, life is too short to walk round with your head up your arse all the time. Like I said once before if you don't like this thread don't read it.
Some of my fighters fight with knees and full Thai rules. It just that we are asked too much that's all. My boys don't just fight WKA they also fight ISKA & WMC and have also fought IKF in Malaysia. We only support real sanctioning bodies, not bodies that are the figment of someone's imaganation. Or bodies that have two fighters that live two or three suburbs away fighting for world title that only exists in Australia. And as far as foxtell, well I am not too concerned with paying them thousands of dollars just to have my show televised. Whats the point. I just want to keep putting on good shows with evenly matched fights.
I can not help what the government in this state makes us do. What would you prefer me to do. Just break the law and stuff the whole thing up for all the promoters in this state.
Grumpy thanks for the kind words but really pricks like that diease nickosis are a dime a dozen. Not happy unless they are putting shit on someone. I am just one trainer in a country full of great trainers trying to the best with what I have without breaking any of the rules for my fighters and the audience that attend my shows. And I have not had any complaints so far.
pitbull

nickosis
I have never been too a Pitbull show but I have been to a few WKBF shows and I tell you something. Most of the time the fighters that appear on the posters never end up fighting, there is at least a 15 minute gap between each fight and there always seems to be trouble with fights breaking out in the crowd that are watching. These are things that don't happen at a Pitbull show, well that is what I have been told and what I have read as well. That is why I will be going to his next show.

Jason
if you do come to the show please after it is finish introduce yourself too me. Its good to meet fellow ax readers, and put a face to the name. It is also good to get feed back from my customers to see how I can improve my promotions.

nikosis, didn't u learn from the last time you opened your mouth and tried to dis our thread on ax. piss off and go annoy someone else with your good-for-nothing input on ax. no one hear cares about you or your trash.

who are you to dis paul anyway.

HAPPY EASTER to everyone except nikosis!!!!


BULLET

WoW you lot are inbred. You are all a minority, yes as if the world hinges around you, kiss each others arse. I was waiting for you lot to come out of that little suburb of Sydney, you guys cant even fight. I heard that Pitpull wasnt even a good fighter. Well I'd think that you lot are probably the same, no name Dunnee Bowl fighters. Happy easter PULLET , I mean bullshit, Bullet.

WKA wankers kiss arse.

I am trying to keep it up the top of ax, thats the plan isnt it. I put some crap in it later.

Well has this thread turned ugly..instead of the insults lets get some challenge in the ring WKA Vs WKBF fighters this should sort the men from the boys the sanctioning bodies from the rest,I have always tried to work in with everybody in NSW and if fighters choose to be with whoever well thats is all in fine but when you guys start to throw insults and accusations
about our body well that is another story...
If WKA Paul Grima fighters want to be Australia champions until the day they die will let it be,but when you get guys like Frank Zammit who has had enough fights as a amatuer to fight for World Title give the guy some respect he does not matter if it is a NZ or American or France or Dutch or Thai so long as the guy is originally from another country,that qualifys a World Title,New Zealanders are classed as the best in the world in the middleweight and Superheavyweight so I do not know why you guys think they are not good fighters...
Why don!t the Europe promoters get fighters from Australia & NZ because of the cost factor and that is the same reason Austraila & NZ do not get to many overeseas fighters from Europe...
I have taken fighters to Greece to fight for intercontinetal & World Titles and they have beaten fighters over there for WKBF titles if you think that a sanctioning body is about the quantity and not the quality then you guys need to reaccess about how the sport works...
WKBF have legitmate fighters in our body we are moving forward we have
K1 Grandprix champion we have the best Superheavyweight fighters and
supermiddleweight fighters in Australia and soon to be middleweight, welterweight.
I would love to see the best WKA fighters fight the best WKBF fighters
especially from Paul Grima!s gym they seem to think they are the best....
Our fighters will fight any fighter here in NSW or in Australia...
and that is what it is all about not about who is the best body but about a fighter holding as many sanctioning belts around his waist which proves he is the best....e.g. Kostya Tzyu unified boxing titles...
We have brought fighters from all over the world to fight WKBF Amatuer Titles..Please do not say we have not done anything and our fighters are nobodies do your homework you critics you will be suprised at who our champions are and going to be.....
Paul I have respected you as a fighter as a amatuer and professional I wish you the best as a trainer and promoter...I am looking forward to seeing a K1 Grandprix Champion and World Champions come from your stable in the future,if you think WKBF are shit lets put your best fighters with our best fighters then that should sort out who is who in NSW.....
Bullet what weight are you???????
Happy Easter Paul & fighters hope you guys have a good one goodluck for your show...
Regards
Lucy Tui

I have never once bagged a WKBF fighter, nor have I ever said anything bad about fighters from New Zealand. Some of the best fighters in the World come from there. So why would you write what you have Lucy. Anyone that steps into the ring is a winner as far as I am concerned. This thread is not a challenge to anyone or any organisation just people expressing their views. It only starts to get ugly when people come on to this thread and start to abuse us for having fun and trying to promote my next promotion. If you don't like it don't read it, simple. I never get on some else thread and start putting shit on them even if I don't like what they are saying. I just don't read it anymore.
Nor do I think that I am the best trainer. I am just one guy in a land full of great trainers. But like everyone else I have the right to put my fighters on promotions sanctioned by who I choose. That is creditable organisation that exist all over the world not just in Australia. My fighter don't just fight on WKA shows either they have fought on ISKA,WMC, & IKF in Malaysia.
Something I might add it is not just about winning. I have boys in my gym that I know are never going to be World Champs but they want to fight. What am I suppose to do with people like this. Not let them fight because they might not win or because they might embrass me and my gyms reputation. I don't really care about win / loss ratios as long as my fighters enjoy what they are doing, are having fun, don't get hurt and improve with every bout I am happy.

nikosis, u are a tool. people like you take the fun out of good websites like this, and u obviously have no credit to your name.

u should be ashamed to talk about paul like the way you do. if you had any true respect as a fighter or fan, you would definitely not dis his credit in the kickboxing circle.

where are you from anyway you closet queen, and tell us about how great you are to start dissing other people.

BULLET

Please guys lets not turn this intoa nasty thread. As far as I am concerned there are no fighters who purely fight for one sanctioning body is there??? Most fighters go where they can get matched even into boxing sometimes. I have fought ISKA, WMC and WKA. I have the utmost respect for Frank and all the other WKBF title holders my post asked why he couldnt get a world title that is recognised outside Australia. To my knowledge the WKBF hadnt fought outside Aus. Now I stand corrected. I still think it has along way to go to be in the same standard as the WKA or ISKA. However I would be the first to acknowledge that there are so many other sanctioning bodies around the world that have a similiar shallow pool of fighters that has more to do with the cost factors than anything else. Having fought a kiwi and seen many of them fight I have a great deal of respect for them I just get tired of seeing us Aussies always competing with them.

Full credit to JNI who got a Finland fighter to fight Eddie and Rob Murdock got a Frenchy, Paul even had an Italian fight Josh some years ago.

Its all about looking after the crowd with good match ups and smooth shows, looking after the fighters and having a good time. If every one can do that then it would be great. As a fighter I dont care what sanctioning body or title I fight for. Some titles mean more to me regardless of the sanctioning body.


Birdman

The guys from Pitbull Gym dont "think they are the best" They just like having fun. There are many gyms that have more champoins and better win/loss ratios but at Pitbulls its about enjoying the sport. Please dont use the fighters to make cheap political statements. This kind of stuff is whats ruining the sport because the public dont understand the sanctioning body stuff they just want good fights and colourful characters to support.

If you want particular fighters to fight each other then offer the challenge dont just say WKBF V WKA( pitbull) As we all know WBKF World champs the Mckinnon bros have WKA titles and ISKA titles ( as well as others ) who would they fight for???? Greg Foley has WBBF and WKA titles. The promoters and the sanctioning bodies do not own the fighters. Even though there has been rumours about amatuers getting paid up to $1500 to fight.

In the end the public through patronage will decided which promoter or sanctioning body they support. Unfortunately we may lose may spectators and sponsors in the process as they are turned off by poor promotions and pie in the sky promises.

Gee whiz you are a brave soul nickosis. "pussies who fight with stockings on..." Here is just a short list of pussies who have fought with shin guards as per NSW legislation.. feel free to add more

Mark Hunt
Adam Watt
Grant Barker
Hirawa Te Rangi
Nelson Taoine

Lucky we have a sense of humour.....oh and thanks for contibuting to the thread, its all good

relax Bullet I think when paul said he has guys at the gym who will never be ' World Champs' he was talking about me, or perhaps Popeye, or Tim or big Kev or snorky or Ben lol

Birdman

good on ya

Stirrer

good on ya

Stirrer

Lucy
I am not trying to be smart but after reading the last few comments I am wondering why International Kickboxer Magazine doesn't print the WKBF Australian Ratings ratings. Yet it does print the WKA,WMC,& ISKA Australian Ratings. Also after searching the net I can find World Rankings for the WKA,ISKA & WMC. Yet the only thing I can find on the WKBF is your Australian Website. The Australian Rating are still under construction and have been for some time. And if you put on World Titles where are the World Ratings? Why is this.

How about the WKA website its old and has no Aussie content. We need an updated aussie webpage to reflect whats happening down under.

The WKBF web page does look good, a professional job, we will have to wait til its completed. Not as good as pitbull web page though

There is no Aussie ISKA page either from what I can find Jason.

Hey fair go, what does this statement mean????....... .." for WKBF titles if you think that a sanctioning body is about the quantity and not the quality then you guys need to reaccess about how the sport works..."

I doubt the WKBF can boast quality over the WKA or ISKA. I agree its not necessarily quantity but fighters want to compete so they go where they are matched.

Can you tell us HOW the sport works??????

I agree the WKBF have had some great match ups recently but there is a long way to go to compete with the established bodies. Lets just call a spade a spade and recognise that the WKBF is not at the same level of establishment as other bodies. That doesnt mean it wont be it just isnt there yet.

Can we have a discussion without getting personal....try typing what you believe without using names, it is an interesting topic

Birdseye,

The WKBF site does looks great. The designer is a name you will remember from a few years ago.


Jason,

Good point...

http://www.wkbf.com/ gives me a radio site...Lucy?

Paul has always had a good following,be it fighter or Promoter.
In the early days when Paul first started Promoting I told him and I quote,put on the best possible show you can and it will sell the next show for you.He is not only a trainer but friend to most of his students (as if you cannot tell from the posts)so as a Promoter and Trainer myself I can understand why his students prefer to fight on his shows.

P.S. you don't like this thread,easy piss off.

Well it is obvious that the guys who are posting do not know the International fighters WKBF have brought over to fight our local fighters here we were the first to bring in International Amatuer fighters and found that they were never up to the standard of our fighters here in Australia
because alot of the oversea fighters had turned professional after about 14fights where as our fighters would have had over 20 amatuer fights before they would be qualified for a World Amatuer Title.....
I have been to couple of Pitbull shows since he has been promoting and found them to be good amatuer shows,the only reason I do not go anymore is because I have to pay to get in..he would be the only promoter in Australia that has charged me to get in to watch a event...
It would have to be political for I have never direspected Paul Grima in all the years I have been involved in Kickboxing, I judged 90% of his fights when he was a fighter Amatuer & Pro,when I was ISKA Rep everyone here
in NSW thought it was a shit sanctioning body the people who actually thought that ISKA were nobodies are now the people who a running ISKA,so you critics out there do not try and make out that I have not got any idea on how sanctioning bodies work,it was our organisation that built ISKA and we left them because of a certain person who I thought had no idea of the sport at the time of ISKA coming into NSW and Australia I did not agree with some of his policies so I left and was asked by Rueben Urqiudez Benny the Jets brother if I would like to build WKBF here in the
Sth Pacific and now worldwide,it has taken along time to build but we have now got the best fighters in WKBF here in Australia & worldwide and we are only going to get stronger as this decade unfolds......
I am very proud of WKBF......The sanctioning body moving into the 21st Century....We care about fighters,& Promoters & People & the sport.....
We are moving with the times I respect other bodies and are more than happy & Respect fighters to be free to choose which ever sanctioning title they wish to fight for........
With respect to all promoters,fighters,and sanctioning bodies......
Regards
Lucy Tui

Birdseye

What were you doing signing off "Stirrer" posts as Birdseye and "Birdseye" posts as Stirrer.

You have blown your cover and the show is still 3 weeks away!!

Lucy, when ever I go to a promotion as a spectator not an official I pay to get in. I don not expect to get in for free just because of who I am. The promoters of kickboxing promotions pay big money to put on these shows so I would never use my position to get into a promotion for free. That is not really fair to the promoter.Like I said earlier this thread is not here to bag people or other organisations. We use it as a tool to promote my next promotion and express my views and have a little bit of fun in the process thats all.
One other thing Lucy I thought that the sanction body that Ruben Urqiudez started was called KICK not the WKBF. I could be wrong though just what I thought. I will check with one of my friends that lives in the States Brooks Manson he is the trainer of Don "the Dragon" Wilson. I am sure he will know as he has been involved with the sport for many many years and knows his stuff. I will also check with my Thai Boxing teacher & Ajarn Chai Sirisute he is also my son's Godfather. He has be living in the States for over 35 years now I am sure he will know as will. If I am wrong I will let everyone know I was wrong.
all the best
pitbull

Hi Paul,

I would never charge any promoter from anywhere in the World to come to a show and I have never heard of any promoters who have to pay to get into shows here in NSW and No I am not using my position to get into shows it is called respect for people who have put alot into this sport over the years, Nick Stone,JNI,Robert Murdoch Jrn,Mick Spinks,have never ask me to pay to get into there shows I have always gone on my own so as to keep intouch with the future fighters in this sport they have always conducted there shows with professionalism & Respect......
In 1994 when Ruben Urquidez brought his nephew to fight Neilson Taione for the Superheavy World Amatuer Title at Nrth CurlCurl Community Centre was the day WKBF came to NSW...
I have a official letter from Rueben Urqiduez sanctioning Stan The Man fight with Steve Jez,that was the only way that fight was to go ahead Stan
management wanted a official letter from WKBF it was signed by Ruben Urquidez and other members at the time.. The NSW Boxing Authority have a copy of the letter also....
I just want you to know Paul regardless how you feel about me and what I have done for the sport I will always love kickboxing with a Passion.......
Goodluck for your show on the 27th April, I am sure it will be another successful show .....
Regards
Lucy Tui

thanx stirer, lol i know this is a reply to a post a few up now becuase this thread is just booming, but i think when paul was talkin about world champs, i can relax now thanx to u bud. take it easy

BULLET

ps birdseye, just stop pickin on stirer because he posts stupid threads that look like yours mate, cut him some slack. HAHAHAHAAA

somebodies playing tricks on me......

stirrer
Birdseye
Bullet

HELLO, lets get back to talking about the fighters not the promoters. Unless they want to fight Lucit Tui V Paul Grima - JNI V Nick Stone. Now I'd pay to see that LOL

Deep breaths every one take a chill pill.

Dowgy

Anyone know where I can get in touch with Nickosis. I tried www.dickhead.com but he was unavailable. I miss him

YEAH stirer he's in the WKBF world rating on the wkbf website...

LOL

its only a joke guys...

BULLET

Please don't take this the wrong way I am am not trying to be a smart arse. I am not a fighter,trainer or promoter. Just a bloke who likes going to watch kickboxing shows for fun. I have only been following the sport for a couple years now so I really don't know too much about it. So what I see, hear and read is how I learn more about the sport.
You have not really answered any of my questions Lucy. Why doesn't International Kickboxer publish your Australian Ratings.Why can I not find anything else about the wkbf on the net execpt for your Australian site.
I have not yet heard pitbull say anything bad about anyone on this thread either or about wkbf fighters or Kiwi fighters yet you accuse him of that as well, why? The only person that I see issuing challenges here is you.

Jason, I personally do not think that ratings in the International Kickboxing mag is going to make a difference to a fighter,check out the WKA & ISKA and you will find how behind they are because it take time to compile information and when it goes to print it would have changed again...
Sorry that there is not any information about WKBF worldwide on the net
there will be soon there are a couple of Promoters who are interested in promoting WKBF in Europe & NZ.....I have oversea representatives working towards putting there Websites together....
I think you need to read this thread through and you will read Paul confirming a remark about WKBF in which stirrer had posted...
If you have attended WKBF shows here in NSW I do not beleive that you have had to wait as long as you have mentioned between rounds they have run smoothly to my mind...and they have been matched pretty well.....
What is wrong with issuing challenges to other bodies or gyms it only helps fighters develop into better fighters....
Jason when you have been in the sport for as long as Paul and I have you will get to understand what is going on....
It sounds like to me you know Paul very well...
Regards
Lucy Tui

Lucy,
I think that issuing challenges should only be made by the fighters or their handlers. Sanctioning bodies have (should have) nothing to do with challenges. Santioning bodies do not represent a fighter. If you were their manager that would be different but sanctioning bodies... i mean does the WBA issue challenges to the WBC or IBF - NO. Each do their own thing and sometimes a fighter unifes the titles - co-sanctioned events.
To the other posters (including Nickosis),
Don't take things so seriously - keep the agro in the ring and stop putting shit on the legends of the sport like Pitbull and myself. Respect.

Awesome, I know what you are saying,for I have managed fighters it is more to do with Paul as the WKA Rep and myself been WKBF,I am aware how the system works......
Regards
Lucy Tui

Just wondering, with all these questions about the ISKA, WKBF and WKA and people issuing challenges - are any other organizations taken into consideration. For example, there's a few old wooden stadiums in a Southeast Asian capital and each has there own champions. Of course they're not world champions, and would have to adjust a little for kickboxing, but why not give them a chance to fight for a title at...let's say, somewhere between bantam and welterweight. Let's respect each other and not take life to seriously.

With the exception of performing fighters and their trainers, i reckon everyone should pay to get into a show, regardless of who you are...thats just my opinion...assuming i wasn't performing, i would pay, even if i were the greatest personality in the sport...every little bit to help out the promoter counts...sorry, gone off topic as usual, lol

Let's get back on the fights -

Paul - any changes to the card?

Has Nelson exhausted himself trying to remember if he was birdseye or stirrer? Has Bullet hurt his back moving his belts to make room for a new one?

cheers
dowgy

Jones, you're absolutely right - the legend fighters from Thailand fight to be stadium champ and rarely are crowned world champion even though in the lighter weights they are obviously the best going around. But that goes abck to what i was saying - santioning bodies don't issue challenges, the fighters managers / promoters do. I'm not too sure what Lucy is talking about, especially when she issued a challenge on behalf of a sanctioning body???
Vince, usually you are also given another ticket for your girl/boyfriend. Hey, as an amateur, if you are going to get beat up the least you can get is a sympathy f...
dowgy, if you look at the poster you'll notice that Pullit - i mean Bullet is not wearing the title belt around his waist as it was made for someone of normal size not stick-man proportions. Go get'em Big Fella!

hawesome dont say you are mixed up with those legend wka (wankers kick arse licking) they are not worth it. Well you got my respect.

Anyway where was I.
Well came on to put this thread up the top of ax,

Thats been the plan from day 1

Birdshit,
Pullet,
Pitspull,
Dowgy stlye,
Lickboxing Fan, mean Kwikboxing Fan.

Must leave some crap behind so that I blend in with all the shit in here.

gee you looked good at training today, really good hands "Pullet".

fanks "birdshit" you know I am good with both hands.

Hey did you see what that bloody Nickosis wrote on ax ?????.

What did he write????, the same shit we do...

When you do a promotion Vince then you can let me know if everyone besides the fighter and officials paid....I can guarantee 100% that you will be giving out a few complimentary....beleive me....when you have done as many shows as Paul and myself and other promoters you will know exactly what I mean........
Regards
Lucy Tui

hey nickosis good to see you back bro. Keep up the good work. People started taking this site seriously. You are my favourite I miss seeing your work on Tariks site.

sanctioning bodies dont OWN fighters, even those with contracts. Everyone remember Pete Graham?????

what is nikosis going on about everyone??? mate, my brother tells better jokes than you, and he can't talk... HAHAHAA u gotta get some style mate coz u are getting slammed at the gym my friend. is that all you have???

u said u were good with both hands... sorry i thought u had three coz i always thought u were from tasmania.


BULLET

Lucy what do you mean it sounds like I know Paul. How you came to that brilliant deduction just by reading what I have written I have no Idea? Are you a fortune- teller? If you are you aren’t a very good one because you are wrong. I don’t know Paul. He has asked me to come and introduce myself after his next show if I go. As long as I don’t get too pissed I probably will. So then I you will be able say I know him. Next you are telling me that I didn’t wait for as long between rounds at some of wkbf shows I have been to. Well I didn’t say rounds I said fights! When you can go to the bar twice in some cases before the next fight starts you know you are waiting too long. And where you say they were pretty evenly matched. I didn’t say that they weren’t matched well. I wouldn’t bloody know the first thing about matching a fight. I thought you got 2 guys who wanted to fight each other and that’s that. The more I read the magazines and web sites the more I learn.That's why I asked your about your ratings. And what I am starting to learn from this web site is that every time someone has something to say that you don’t agree with you try to make them look bad by talking crap about them. I use to think you must have been a nice lady being involved with kickboxing. But the more I read the more wrong I think I must have been.

here is a small list of sanctioning bodies.
wka
wkbf
iska
ikf
ukf
kick
pka
afc
amc
wkl
wmtc
wmt
wako

each has its own world champion. Its all relative. So stop living in a fish bowl and realise that there are many other people who have the same arguements they we have in relation to who has the most legitimate body.

Here is a small list of bodies I would like to fight for:

Cindy Crawford
Jennifer Lopez
Kathy Ireland
That chick off the Tomb Raider movie

top work ben

Many of those organizations are defunct now!!!

cindy and Cathy are getting on a bit and have had more pricks than a second hand dart board but I do agree with Angelina Jolie, mmmmmmm. Thats motivation for tonights pad rounds.

Lucy
I don't know Jason. He says he is going to come to the next promotion. If he does I hope he comes over and says Hi. I do know Bullet, Birdseye & Awesome thats all.
Why must you put shit on people for just having some fun and helping to promote my next promotion. If you have stuff to say which is derogatory why don't you stop hiding behind your computer screen and say it in person.You must have two dicks, you couldn't be that stupid pullin one.

Sorry I forgot to put nickosis 's name in the front of the second parragraph. That second comment was was not directed at Lucy obviously.

hey nickosis,

whats with the insults towards against pitbull or any other promoters.

I dont know pitbull myself but i am sticking up for him and all the other promoters out there, but at least he is putting one shows and give the youth a chance to do there stuff no matter what gym or sanctioned they go to.
Love the or hate them promoters are try there best to put on a show and yes there are shit shows that you never go to again but i have been to One pitbull show though only amatuets i quiet enjoy it..

As a mattert of fact what has nickosis done for kickboxing beside insults and critisms.NOTHING. As a matter of fact I wonder if you been to a kickboxing show. probably NOT
So Pitbull keep up the good work and dont worry what other people say

Abdul

Abdul you are doing the right thing sticking up for your trainer Paul, by the way it is good that you came to the rescue as they are running out of people to post on AX for them, anyway I'll take the credit for putting the thread up top for tonight.

We aint worried about what people say, its all for the good of the sport.
Now stop sucking up to each other Paul and Lucy. If only the promoters were good looking.

Nickosis,

You still have not told us what your involvement with the sport is?


Grumpy

Cant you see my work,
I am suppose to be a comedian, rip off artist, back stabber, party pooper, shit stirrer, every thing every body hates, I am that black dot on the wall when you go pee pees on the loo, hell I am even in your underwear! that little pesterising itch! I piss people off.

I am a sports critic

I am watching you Grumpy???????????

hey nickosis are you from melbourne??? I love your work. When I read it I get do fired up I have to post. I like your posts cause it gets people talking as does the fighting between sanctioning bodies. Its all part of the fun.

Funny how you dont see the 'big mouth' style fighters on here saying how they are going to smashh their oponent or bagging them. Its refreshing.

Thanks for the kind words Abdul.I am glad you enjoyed the promotion you came to. I hope to see you at the next one. Nickosis I don't know Abdul either.Why is it when someone gets on ax and has something to say that is not derogatory about me or my promotions you & Lucy automaticly think that I know them.

Watch it Birdseye I can see the trap you are leading me to, trying to make me soft and have feelings. A person like me has to stay focused and I can not give any sympathy or show some form of KINDESS to any one, except my mummy.

Yes hate me or love me, dont trust me as I might jump out of the bushes that you are peeing on next time. And then I would have to expose a story about the Kickboxer with a little Weeny.

Yep I am having fun, this thread has to be at the top so doing my part, Daddy Paul.

Where are you Abdul you little lick lick, Daddy Paul has a stamp for you.

Hey Nickosis,

I have people watching me all day, one more won't hurt.

Some interesting news that I just recieved on the wire...

Pitbull Gym is in the preproduction stages of releasing the first "Men of Kickboxing and Miscelanous Sports including Beer Drinking" Calandar. Negotiation are currently underway with the fighters/drinkers at his gym, and there is a fierce battle over who will get the cover shot.

Rumour also has it that the person who gets the cover will recieve an all expenses paid date with an inflatable Cindy Crawford (used), Jennifer Lopez (opened but not used) or Kathy Ireland (still in box).

Any truth is this guys???

Hey Nickosis,

I have people watching me all day, one more won't hurt.

Some interesting news that I just recieved on the wire...

Pitbull Gym is in the preproduction stages of releasing the first "Men of Kickboxing and Miscelanous Sports including Beer Drinking" Calandar. Negotiation are currently underway with the fighters/drinkers at his gym, and there is a fierce battle over who will get the cover shot.

Rumour also has it that the person who gets the cover will recieve an all expenses paid date with an inflatable Cindy Crawford (used), Jennifer Lopez (opened but not used) or Kathy Ireland (still in box).

Any truth is this guys???

WTF??? I didn't write that...hmmm....

Grumpy wash your hands after loo loo's.

What Pitbull Gym got blow up dolls, I knew you guys were all wind.

What a waste of money buying them dolls, thought you lot would have holes in your kicking bags?

I didn't write that post! (and stop giving me ideas!)

Birdseye and Bullet,

How is your training going for the show???

Jason I was reading back a few posts that website is- www.wkbf.mainpage.net

Yeah where the hell are you's, Birdseyes and Bullets.

Its getting lonely here.

Come on, lets talk about your training and yourselves.

Well Nickosis, where are you from? if you are from NSW why don!t you go and have a look at Pitbulls show and come back and give your version of it

Well it is nice to know someone is watching over the kickboxing....
But it would be nice if you showed a bit of respect.. .....you are LOL!s I must say....you are putting the Ptibull gym into a spin.......
Regards
Lucy Tui

im still here nikosis, focusing on the real issues mate, like chasing my aust. tite, not worrying about fools like you. but keep at it anyway, you make training easier when everyone is laughing at you..

BULLET

whats the go grumpy that post didnt seem to be your style. I still enjoyed reading it. This sport is full of colourful characters like nickosis and others. Some are full of poo and know it. Others are just as full but dont admitt it.

I am on fire lately, should have my third state title, in three different wieght divisions, in a few weeks, yippeeeeeee. Gotta keep chasing Bullet he has more belts than I have had hot dinners.

Come to the show nickosis, tell us what you think.

hey everyone do you realise that if just 10 of us put $3.80 into a fund we could pay for Lucy to see Pauls show. It would be cheaper than putting in $4.40 for her to see the JNI show.

How many people would put in $3.80 and $4.40 for her not to go to the shows

Whilst I enjoyed the last posts I think alot of the problems with people getting in for free is the people who hang on to also get in for free. These types of people give others a bad name and create nasty scenes at the door. At many shows I had to pay for my wife to attend as only I got in for free myself and I was fighting. Thats up to the promoter and I accept that.

iwould pay to see nikosis and lucy sitting next to eachother..

in fact, i would pay to see the doormen pushing awesome through those doors.
"damn doors, why don't they make em bigger"

how much do we put in to pay for awesome to come to the show? does he buy two tickets like i have suggested earlier in the thread.

remember awesome, you can't just sit on the stage and get free food and beer for nothing mate. u gottabe a VIP to be up there. u my friend are a VERY INSULATED PERSON... but u still don't qualify to sit up there with the other VIP's.

There's been alot of complaints about a lack of respect shown on this thread. Can't people leave awesome alone, after all he is one of the self-confessed legends of the sport, and quite a sensitive guy who I'm sure is upset by all the name calling.

Well you are all funny tonight guys,I am off to Nick stones show I am sure I
will see your trainer Paul Grima there i will give him a wave and wish him all the best for his show....hehehehe....oh I forgot Nick invited me which was nice of him......hehehe...so you do not have to go around with the hat tonite....hehehe...have a good one guys!!!!!!!!
Regards
Lucy Tui

Lucy look for me I am the one with the pink feather in my Cap and the pitbull blow up dolls.

They are looking for another Gym, as the pitbull guys are to busy with them selves.

thanks for taking the post in the spirit it was intended Lucy. Hope you had fun at Nicks.

I am going for the 200 mark, I should be able to get my Life membership at Pitbull Gym.

Yeah me and you Kwik boxing fan, I think dowgy doesnt like me. oooh you guys birdy and stirr-it, bullsit, train hard you Men of Mountains of Muscles. you go boys

Hey nickosis
I was just wondering why you are bagging the WKA and supporting the WKBF now. I know we all have personal choices and there is nothing wrong with that but I am sure it was not too long ago you were bagging the WKBF. And if I remember correctly wasn't there some problem you had with not receiving a Video after you paid for it from Lucy. I thought you were going to take her to consumer affairs for that. What happened? You see it is not really that good to chop and change your mind. People remember things and you will sooner or later be called a hypocrite. Wasn’t Stan a WKA champion. What would he say if he seen what you wrote about the body he won his first World Title in. Also when you say that I wasn’t a very good fighter, maybe you are right. I only had 34 fights I won 21 of them three draws and 10 losses. So I suppose that is not a fantastic record but the bottom line is at least I fought. That’s more than you can say for yourself. You sit behind that computer screen of yours and talk like a big man but you haven’t even had a fight yet. So how can you criticise people that have. I don’t think that is very smart.
I think that some of the stuff you write on here is pretty funny and it does help me promote my next promotion. I also don’t think that you should be banned from ax. Like I said before some of the stuff is pretty funny. But what would happen if you were at one of the Clubs you like to hang out in Melbourne and someone recognised you and didn’t like the stuff you wrote. What would happen then. So I think that maybe next time you put something on ax think before you write it mate. And don't spend all your time bagging everyone.
pitbull

Paul, there is me, Nickos (my name's Nick) and there is "nickosis", someone else. You're getting us confused. He has nothing to do with me. Unfortunately he used a handle similar to me and it's confused you. Maybe I should change my ax name.

Sorry Nickos
Like I said I in my message I thought. I must have been wrong. Don't sweat mate I just confused with the names.

No worries Paul, I just thought I should clarify that he isn't me so someone he bags doesn't jump me. LOL!

Brother Nickos, where you been. Paul I apoligise to you and your fighters, I shouldnt be critical, I have explained my reasons on the re: pitbull thread.
Go the Pitbulls!!!, The Yeeroos are on Me and Nick!!!

hey nickosis keep throwing them, we love it.

Whats happening, Nickosis is being soft...??? Soon cats will be living with dogs, night will be day and men will understand women. Nickosis you are one of the characters in life, dont stop, just keep it clean. I assure you the guys who train at Pitbulls gym arent upset by your words, its funny. Keep it repectable for the good of the board but dont lose your sense of humour.

Challenge the fighters, the sanctioning bodies, whatever thats kinda what this board is about.

Pitbull,
I see you are in the middle of it. Well only those who work get dirty. Being from America, I see the sanctioning body fight all the time. I enjoy going to all their shows and mostly they all have the fighters interest at heart. The title thing is what tends to piss me off. If a sanctioning body has title fights and confines the title to the area they represent, then I am all for it.
For us here that means state and local titles and maybe a national title if the group has their stuff together but a world title, no.
I started fighting for the WKA when most of you were sucking your Mom's tit or sucking whatever in Nickosis case and I know them to be a legitimate world organization with valid champions. The ISKA also has proven itself to be a worldwide organization. The WKBF seems to be a small group that is working toward a legitimate place in world fighting. I can not imagine however how they could have obtained that status so quickly.
Go slow and build your reputation by results not talk.
I know Paul Grima and have had the pleasure of his company, both at the fights and over a drink. The man loves the sport as all great trainers do and you folks would do well to listen to him.
A few other items.
When is the Bullet going to fight for the Aussie title?
How big is Awesome? He was solid the last I saw.
Who is this "Dick Head" Nickosis?
I always pay to get in but never for a beer.
The shin guards you are talking about are one step above tissue paper.
Well Paul, give'em hell.
Brooks

Hey Brooksee, sweetheart, you Big Dragon Breath, you dont need to be another mouthy WKA cronnie, we sort of Love each other now, we cuddled and made up, we are one, in spirit.

where have you been brooks. Took over 200 posts to get you out. Hope the states are treating you well. If you want to know when Bullet is fighting for an aussie title check out the poster at the top of the thread, he he he he.

Awesome may have looked solid but I assure you he has never been solid. Solid is a diplomatic way of saying FAT. You have to be honest with Awesome as he already has an army of yes men. He needs the truth, even if it hurts him.

Uncle Brooks its good to hear from you mate. What took you so bloodly long? There has only been over 200 posts. Thanks for the kind words but like I said before I am just one guy in a land of great trainers trying to do his best.But whee you say that you have shared my company at the fights and over a drink. Are you forgetting to tell everyone when the drinking got serious you went off to bed. We still are waiting for you to come to the land down under mate for part two of what started in Maylasia.

Nickosis I think I am going to cry, don't sweat it mate I did not really take offence to anything you said. Its all fun and lifes too short to take things to heart. When I talk about the WKBF I am not bagging the organisation or Lucy just expressing my views that is all.

Hi Brooks,
If you think 8 years building WKBF is a short time building I would hate to ask what a longtime to you represents...and 22years in kickboxing.
I have put in many hours and $$!s in helping build WKBF for a woman I guess it sounds crazy to you and others but everything I have done for the SPORT IS WITH PASSION....
I thought someone like yourself who has been around for as long as you would understand such a thing.....
Paul decided to not talk to people like myself because I decided to move on with the sport and be involved with another sanctioning body I am sure everyone came from WKA at one stage of there kickboxing career and now times are changing and progressing. .........
I am still friends with alot of the WKA people, Bob Jones himself he always shows respect towards me when ever we see each other at shows......
I have put enough of my time into this sport to enable me to have opinions on kickboxing here in Australia & Worldwide. I have definetly done my time for the sport.....( with due respect I am sure you have done your time as well.)
I support and respect fighters, promoters, trainers and different sanctioning bodies from all over the world whether they are beginners or champions when you are a representative of this sport you need to accept change that is what helps progression in the sport today, as far as titles are concerned if the fighters have worked hard for it why not......I feel NZ is good enough to fight for World ,Sth Pacific,Comonwealth Titles they are rated as one of the toughest fighting countries in the world...

Regards
Lucy Tui
Peace...

Hi Brooks, I forgot as far as paying to get in I am not worried about that,it was more the principle we as Promoters support each other with helping other promoters if need fighters,the reason Paul wanted to charge me 4years ago would have been more on the political side because prior to that he use to let me in......like I have mentioned before we all have been
in this sport a very long time it is not the paying it is the respect & principle
I would not charge Paul to enter my show based on Principle & Respect....
Regards
Lucy Tui

Did you two see each other on Friday night??? Did you say hello??? Was threr an awkward silence???

Lucy
I have never been to a WKBF Promotion. You have only ever been to two of my Promotions because for some unknow reason you use schedule a Promotion on the same night as mine nearly all the time remember.

Stirrer
I was too bloody busy on Friday night chasing Medicials & registrations from the fighters. And refereeing the Kickboxing fights and paying the Ring Officials at the end of the night. I really didn't have time to eat rather than socialize. After the promotion was over I wanted to get straight home to my wife and kids as it was my oldest son Chai's Seventh Birthday and I missed most of it any way due having to work at this promotion.

so I take it as no.lol. Was Lucy working that night also???

leave lucy and paul alone they are but two people in a sport of thousands. Everyone has their supporters and detractors as well as their own motivation for doing things. Judge them on what they have achieved or tried to acheived. This is becoming like a soap opera.

What the hell has happened here I go away for a week on the piss with some of my buddies. When I get back there is over 200 posts. I think there is still about two weeks left. Nickosis what has happened to you have gone all soft. But it is good to see that everyone is getting on now. Well at this point I will finally be going to a pitbull show. Lets hope its a good one or I will be pretty disapointed.

jason, i'm with you mate, i think we actually have lives, and being the busy people we are, i didn't have time to post on the weekend either mate, but good to hear from ya.

hi everyone and who had a good weekend??? see ya at traning.

Hi Jason
I was wondering were you have been. Good to see you back. So you are still coming to the show. I promise to do my best to make it a good one. Don't forget to come over after the promotion and introduce yourself it is nice to meet fellow ax readers in person.

hey nickosis

you must be sexually frustrated or not getting some. You must be one of those lonely men that spends his money at brothels.. why dont you come to the pitbull show and i definatly like to meet you.. as you can see I dont put much on this thread much cause of my studies but i ot pitbull would like to educated you about life or to GET A LIFE. OH YEAH maybe the birds and the bees. or sorry you may be a faggot. what do you think pitbull?

No unfortunalty I dont train at pitbull . I do train out west and I do have a great trainer whom i like and enjoy.

No I may not be a world champion but I am training kickboxing for my personal enjoyment so I dont think it makes a difference where i train.

So I cant see what your problem with pitbull is.. My opinion is If a kickboxer wants to be a world champion it depends on himself no matter where he trains whether at pitbull gym or anywhere else. dont you agree pitbull.

So nickosis get of your fat ass and go to you local gym an have a go....
Opps , sorry you dont know what a gym is. Its a place where you get fit. Oh yeah nickosis a boxing ring is in a shape of a square just like your head..

anyway must go back studying enough this thread.

Pitbull good luck with you show and I hope i see you therejust home i dont have exams then i should say sorry as they the exams come first.

all the best

Abdul

Stirrer,no I was not working on the show , I did see Paul working,I did stay back so as to smoke a peace pipe with him but he had disappeared....hehehe....lol!slol!s...for I am only 10mins walk from the Manly leagues Club....
Regards
Lucy Tui

Ps* Paul you are more than welcomed to come to my shows if you have not got a show on the same night....

Yeah, Yeah, Yeah.

Bloody hell Abdul you should stop wearing stockings, they are made for women not Fella's, you must be choking you weenee off.

Yes I would like to meet you at the Pitbull show, may be we can go have a Kebab together??? Have you got a Camel????

Grumpy, did "ABDUL" get that Cindy Crawford Introduction Blow up Doll prize, sounds like he has been busy, got his instructions off her and come on AX to girly slap me.

ABDUL,ABDUL,ABDUL you my friend are sounding like you have these sexual cravings, hell you even want to meet me, I hope that is with our clothes on??

And you like and enjoy your Trainer, man!!! just come out, this is a understanding World, me and you , we are the same Baby.

For once in you life, be honest to yourself, tell your family, tell your friends, tell me, are you really in Love with your Camel. You Big Brute You!!!!

come on guys why do you have to sling shit at each other. Can't we just agree that we don't agree on certian topics. Life is to short to be putting shit on each other.Abdul if you come to the promotion please come up and say hello.It would be nice to meet another ax reader. But if you don't I hope what ever exams you are studying for go well. Don't worry about Nickosis he is just having fun that's all. Don't take things so personal.

I was hoping to read some news today Pitbull. Good Luck. As with Shane Mead if anyone can get someone matched its you. It would be a great example how there are no sanctioning body barriers.

If there are no barriers why wont the pitbull guys fight Lucy's wkbf boys????? Double standards??? Please Explain

No double standards. Pitbul can probably answer you better but I beleive that as Paul is the WKA rep and employed by them to run the wka in nsw it would be a conflict of interest for him to support other sanctioning bodies. Before you ask the iska and wka work together.

Paul does however support local fighters and will have fighters from any sanctioning bodies to compete in either his shows or other shows. I know that he is currently negotiating to match a high profile fighter who has been with the wkbf lately.

I hope that this clears it up. Sorry to jump in for you Pitbull but I am a little tired of the confusion and misinformation being peddled around

Hi Abdul, who do you train with???

Dont get caught up in Nickosis's game, he wonts you to fire up, thats his style, or lack of style.

Well said Birdseye I couldnt have said it better myself

Abdul trains in front of his Televison and Video, with a g-string on and a babies Nappy on his head, his favorite secret move is called the Arab, one touch death touch, Abdul touches his oozy.

Yes it it true what Birdseye is saying I am currently under negotiating trying to get a high profile WKBF fighter on my show. But I won't let the cat out of the bag till it is confirmed. Hopefully it will be finalized tonight. I will keep you posted.

count on the pitbull to have an ace up his sleeve...

BULLET

Good on you, goes to show that there are no hang ups between the fighters and promoters, just between promoters. That is logical when you have people who are obviously passionate about what they do disagreements can emerge.

Any Clues Pitbull

Yes it is looking very interesting, the show will be a blast, WKA vs WKBF. Abdul you woost where are you girlfriend. Go Lucy Tui and the WKBF show some form and give those WKA ladies a go.

even for you nickosis that last thread was confusing. Remember threr are NO WKA fighters or WKBF fighters. There are just fighters who will go where they are matched

guys we are chasing our tails here. lets get over WKA v WKBF and see what its all about at the pitbull show, and see the real action.

BULLET

just you worry about katu. leave the board for hacks like us to ponder the issues in the sport

hey nickosis have you ever trained at the underground??? I met a guy who thinks he knows you

I agree Bullet, the whole thing is becoming boring.

Well the guy I can see that they want to match would have to be Greg Foley
who wants a WKA World Amatuer and ISKA World Amatuer Title before he
turns Pro...I have matched Shane Meads for the 25th May and Frank Zammit one of the most hardest fighters to match here in NSW...
I have a fighter superheavy first timer I would like to fight on a WKA or ISKA
show sometime in September,I would like to put him on Paul Grima!s show if it is possible.....reason been is that when there are WKBF shows it would be hard for me to concentrate on my fighter because I will be working on the show...so I have decided to put him on ISKA or WKA shows and any other fighters that come my way until there will be a time that I do not have to work on WKBF shows....does that make sense anyone....so Paul you have first option....
Regards
Lucy Tui

Well the guy I can see that they want to match would have to be Greg Foley
who wants a WKA World Amatuer and ISKA World Amatuer Title before he
turns Pro...I have matched Shane Meads for the 25th May and Frank Zammit one of the most hardest fighters to match here in NSW...
I have a fighter superheavy first timer I would like to fight on a WKA or ISKA
show sometime in September,I would like to put him on Paul Grima!s show if it is possible.....reason been is that when there are WKBF shows it would be hard for me to concentrate on my fighter because I will be working on the show...so I have decided to put him on ISKA or WKA shows and any other fighters that come my way until there will be a time that I do not have to work on WKBF shows....does that make sense to anyone..........
Regards
Lucy Tui

My understanding is that to gain a wka world title you have to compete in a knockout(tournament) against several fighters in an elimination contest. This is one of the reason why amatuer wka world titles are so rare, they are held once a year only. Good luck to Greg if he wants to win both iska and wka titles before going pro.

I hope he does go pro. I am sure that there is at least one match up he wont be able to dodge as a pro like he did as an amatuer. Many people will wait for that day. You have to remember, nobody retires forever these days and comebacks are common.

right on the button kickboxing fan, and u are right, that fight will be the most awaited fight to come...

BULLET

where would that fight be??? WKA???? Sellout for sure

Lucy who have you matched shane with? What is the title.

Do the TAI's have a supercruiserwieght brother

A rematch with Billy Davis would be good as he was sick for a week before the last fight. I doubt that made too much of a difference but it was an awesome fight

Learn from JNI, dont let his opponent wear running shoes at the weigh in. lol

Hey Bullet!

Was that you on the pads in the ring with Paul on thursday night?

Bullet has been doing pad rounds every night for several weeks now

Yes the fighter in Question was Greg Foley. But they contacted me,(only about three weeks ago.)I don't need to put Greg on my Promotion just to get people in the door. I told them I would try my best but on short notice with a limited budget and already having so many fights matched, it was too much to ask. I may have been able to get him a couple of fighters but their experience level was not the same as Greg's and I did not want to put on a mismatch just to get him on the promotion. At least I tried. I may have him a match for July but that is entirley up to the fighter and his management not me.

got anyone in mind should he turn pro....????

birdseye, u know exactly who he has in mind for foley if and when he turns pro. but lets just wait for the time brother...

rochele, where are you from??? did you come to the gym to weigh in for the bulldog show? im pretty sure that was popeye in the ring, coz i did my pad rounds in the morning session. but thanx for the message, write back.

BULLET

Hey Bullet

Yeah i came out to weigh in for our show.

I've gotta say it looks like Paul work's you guys hard.

Hi Rochelle
in this business you got to be cruel to be kind. Congrats on you preformance as well.Keep up the good work

well rochelle, thats the way paul sees it, he takes pleasure in seeing us hurt, but we also take pleasure in fighting easy. our motto - BRING ON THE MAYHEM, no actually, that was already done on the CKO show. DAMN.

thanx and see ya at the show hopefully...

BULLET

I don't think I have missed anything who won't Greg Foley be able to dodge as a pro like he did as a amateur.Thanks

Rochelle dont give those guys bigger heads than they already have, and Stirrer how the bloody hell did you get that info, you are pretty warm there son.

Where the hell is our big mouth Camel "ABDUL".

ABDUL come out! come out! vea eva you are???

nickosis good to see your back son this thread was starting to get a bit stale without you. Keep up the good work. But try not to be too cricital of Abdul he is just expressing his views thats all. We are all entitled to do that without putting shit on people.

Coral, during his career Greg Foley was matched to fight another fighter and the posters where printed and tickets sold and Foley pulled out. He claimed to have glandular fever yet the very night he pulled out he was seen training at the gym and the rest of the week. HE pulled out. Subsequent attempts to rematch were refused for various reasons.

Now by itself this is no big deal and perhaps he was sick, well too sick to take the fight but he was later overheard talking at a show with his trainer and another promoter, who is getting a hammering on another thread, to say THE OTHER GUY pulled out of the fight and he couldnt wait to fight him. Several people heard this. When the other fighter retired Foley was quoted by people he trained with saying the he wouldnt fight Foley, he was the one dodging him. That is not true. That is the reason there is so much feeling about the possible match up

Hey Nickosis, some people dont realise that your posts are taken in jest and they wanted to letpeople know that they were not you as their names are similiar. I got some info on you, some even said you were a good bloke....must be on the payroll.

the fighter they are talking about is a former Proffesional Australian Champ and has a huge local following in Sydney's west.

I spoke to Geg before he was matched and he had a great deal of respect for the fighter and he said, " I am not in his league yet." A couple of weeks later I left that gym and then I heard him bagging the other fighter. I am not sure that it was Greg, more Greg being prompted by someone else trying to save face.

This type of face saving is relatively common but sometimes you have to face up to it and do your talking in the ring.

Its one thing to reassure you fighter but you shouldnt do it by talking down another fighter. Some guys are easily led and believe their own hype.

What the .... this thread has gone troppo. It takes me an hour to down load. Folleys trainer encourages his fighters ... all I copped was shit. lol

thats becuase you came late to class and left early, and all you did was talk mate.. HAHAHAHAA

...and i wont forget mate the day i saw you hogging into that hamburger.

BULLET

paul prefers to tell it how it is. He tried to tell you what could be but Ronald McDonald's marketing won you over awesome. I know did inside that fat exterior is a fit athelete busting to get out.

www.IKFKickboxing.com
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Check out this page;

http://www.ikfkickboxing.com/KBWebTraffic.htm

Woops.... There we go again..... cramin the IKF at everyone....

ok... just havin a little fun.....
come on... laugh a little guys....
Hopefully we're all "Doing the Right Thing" and if not, your own personal experiences with each organization will speak for itself. As a famous martial arts saying goes;

"It must be experienced in order to be known..."

If you have never delt with a certain organization personally and truly know of no facts about it, or experienced any negative issues "YOURSELF", it may just be better to stay quiet... And remember, some problems you find have nothing to do with the sanctioning body. Meaning, sometimes it may be the officials or promoter or a fan in the stands. Do the research like we do before casting a stone if necessary. And if you can justify the facts, throw that stone HARD! Because if someone is NOT doing the right thing, we need to let everyone know about it...
And for yourself, ask yourself the same question we do everyday...
"How hard is it to do the right thing?" Hopefully your answer will be the same as ours... "Not at all.."


However, Paul, we may have a problem with Brooks... expecting free beer and all... like in Malaysia... keep watch of your glass...lol..

I havent heard any bad news about the IKF. Only some reports about drinking in Malaysia. I dont think the IKF is active in Australia. I heard a rumour that they were initially involved with a suspect promoter no longer active but nothing recently. Good luck to you.

hey I checked out the site, wow that has to be the most interesting up to date kickboxing sanctioning body site. Looks like the IKF is more active around the world that any other body. The web traffic page doesnt mention the wkbf site?

Who sanctions IKF in Aus. The south Pacific rankings lead me to believe that there has been no action here for a long time. If you can have fights all over the world then Aust should be part of it..

Paul's PitBull Site is a Australian geocities site, so there is no "Individual ranking for his particular site, only a ranking for "ALL" the Australian GeoCities sites, which rank at 27,292. This is the rating for the main address of http://au.geocities.com

Everything beyond this just add to the main .com address. such as Paul's at;
/pitbulltraining/

As far as Lucy's site, it ranks in at 1,690,223 on the World Wide Web, with #1 being the best and so on... etc. See where other sites rank for yourself at;

http://info.alexa.com

For some reason, the IKF site keeps coming up under the name Ringside Gym, which is our IKF Training facility. It's linked off our front page, but a part of our website. The IKF site is the highest ranking kickboxing sanctioning body site in the world at 324,832.
Closest behind us is the WKA at 656,068

ISKA is way down at 1,020,133, not as big as most of the people on this page think.

Check any site out for yourself. The Alexa site is great! No way to cheat there. It's all facts.
K-1 Japan leads the way with a ranking of 77,025.
These change daily and we try to update them weekly on our page as given above.

As far as Australia and the IKF? We've been there before, were sure to be there again..

And thanks for the compliments... They are greatly appreciated.

Thanks Paul,

I felt like a tower, at least i had the height and reach advantage!

All the best for your show!

Rochelle

Hey IKF,
Who is the IKF rep in Oz now a days? I know you had a guy Wildsmith do it for a while but haven't seen too many of your sanctioned fights in Australia lately.

Yep I will take it easy on Abdul cause his Mummy rang me to say he is good at home and she doesnt worry where he is, cause he is always in his room.

But she said she is worried what he does in there, he seems to have alot of wet hankee's, when she does his washing.

I hate to say this , But ABDUL, your real Father isnt "ABDULA the Butcher" (aka the wrestler), Your mummy said it was "ABDUL the Milkman".

Hows the show going, any pull-outs, ready to rumble Silver Bullit, thats the way, thats the Pitbull spirit!!!!

I aint to bad thanx stirrer, I wouldnt like to shake your hand though as I wouldnt know where your fingers have been, are you fighting at the show?? I wonder what it would be like if you fought on a Solak show, do you guys fight here in Mewlbourne???

Melbourne

Yep I will take it easy on Abdul cause his Mummy rang me to say he is good at home and she doesnt worry where he is, cause he is always in his room.

But she said she is worried what he does in there, he seems to have alot of wet hankee's, when she does his washing.

I hate to say this , But ABDUL, your real Father isnt "ABDULA the Butcher" (aka the wrestler), Your mummy said it was "ABDUL the Milkman".

Hows the show going, any pull-outs, ready to rumble Silver Bullit, thats the way, thats the Pitbull spirit!!!!

Yep I will take it easy on Abdul cause his Mummy rang me to say he is good at home and she doesnt worry where he is, cause he is always in his room.

But she said she is worried what he does in there, he seems to have alot of wet hankee's, when she does his washing.

I hate to say this , But ABDUL, your real Father isnt "ABDULA the Butcher" (aka the wrestler), Your mummy said it was "ABDUL the Milkman".

Hows the show going, any pull-outs, ready to rumble Silver Bullit, thats the way, thats the Pitbull spirit!!!!

Is the post at the top of AX ??

nickosis
how are ya old son. looks like I might have lost the Badato Vs Turner fight. It is ashame both these boys have had a win each this would have been the decider. Grant Turner has a relative in W.A that is unfortunely dying of cancer so he had to leave the week before last. I spoke to his trainer yesterday and said if he gets back in time it still might be on but I doubt it very much. Time will tell. Still have a shit load of fights left,touch wood. I be glad when the whole thing is over, with ten of my fighters fighting on the night I am just doing too many pad rounds.

hey awesome you could be the ikf aussie rep. I can see you now posing in the corner of the poster in a tight black t shirt

he already has the succesful promoters body and ugly head

relax guys, I wonder where lucy was with all the yapping about Greg Foley but I see that she is in it again on another post defending something or another. She should be back when she puts out that fire.

I had a look at the post. Some people are really giving it to poor old lucy. She sure has upset somepeople. Its not fun to read someone getting blasted in the full on way she is being attacked.

I wonder if the same people would say the same thing to her face. Its easy to write stuff up here

AHH, YES birdy they have used their own names and have a look there are some big names on there from both sides of the sea.

some have even bought up the race issue. Messy.

Can we please have a Lucy free zone from here on. She gets too much press and it should be about the fighters. Especially me. I keep reading to see someone say something good about me and all I see is lucy, lucy, lucy it reminds me of the brady bunch episode where Jan complains about Marsh, Marsha, Marsha. Now that should get Nickosis going. Come and get me big boy.

We wont fight in Melbourne cause last time a NSW fighter wewnt down there on the K1 the 'grim reaper' aka Daniel 'captain' America sent him home with a kickboxing lesson.

Plus every time I order a kebab I get a yeeros and every time I order a middi I get a pot. Weird shit. Dont start me about those trams.

I nearly forgot, too many turks. lol

hey awesome if you promote can I get in for free. I have always backed you up man, you know that. Remember its about respect. You respect me ok.

you guessed it, a quiet night at work.

Id love to see Josh Bromley come out of retirement, and fight greg foley as a pro.Josh Bromley was the best amauter kick boxer that we probley ever see.No that was a fight that we could all look up too.

Kickboxing fan, yeah I am sure you will be in the Backing up the back door on awesome. And you birdseye, watch it mate, I just got rid of those voices in my head, but I think that I like you new south welshe's.

It is really weird down he stirrer and you really have to brush your teeth good , as there are alot of bloody garlic lovers here.

Man I aint getting any trauma from anyone, I cant get at any ones throat, this is driving me mad, where's that coward "ABDUL", come and put the hurt on me!!!!

Good luck Paul for your show.

We were going to bring a fighter over to fight against birdseye but we had some scouts check out the situation and we have become aware of birdseye's lightning quick speed and devastating k.o. power. Now we have decided to boycott the show!

Good luck to Bullet. I have been told that the Malaysian people still chant his name in hopes that he will return to fight there again.

hey legkick I love you style. You must have watched the video on fast forward. LOL but keep talking me up, I love it. At least if Paul flew you over you would get your own room and your trainer could come with you instead of having to come alone and sleep in the promoters lounge room. Sorry I couldnt resist...rofl

JB's pro record was also impressive. We can only wait and see. I hope I dont get too old waiting for that fight.

hey legkick, good to hear from ya mate. how are the states?? yes, i look forward to malaysia again, and it will be mad, once again.

take it easy,
BULLET

Yea they chant his name , Bullit, bullit, its bullits baby.

I hope sanity has prevailed after what I saw last night. Any trainer or promoter that arranges a fight two week before an already matched fight is an idiot if he is the trainer and a backstabber if he is the promoter. This kind of thing ruins the sport and is very unprofessional. In NSW if a fight is stopped either by TKO or KO then the fighters cant fight again for 30 days.

Where is the respect? In my view these people are not worthy to be dealt with by credible sanctioning bodies. Whilst their opponents are training hard they are preparing for another fight. Its hard enough telling a fighter that his guy has pulled out through injury but when its because he fought two weeks earlier thats bullshit. I question if a fighter can recover in two weeks from the mental and physical effort that goes into a fight, especially a title fight.

Sorry to have a snap but it pisses me off having to be exposed to stupid trainers who reflect poorly on the promoters who then cop it from the crowd because the advertised fights dont go ahead. Maybe I am overeacting. I am interested in the thoughts of others on the matter.

who is, lets get them, some other bird leave shit on your branch Birdeye. Who are we talking about , does it effect my ole mate's show pitbull.

nickosis


hey yeeros man.. rumour is that you are a bit of a cross dresser and you like wearing female panties..

wearing ball guards is out of the question cause they dont make infant sizes..

be a man and see me face to face next week

have a nice day

abdul

people do what they think is right, but they have to live with the consequences. I am sure they would not want the same thing done to them.

300 and they said we would never make it. Definately one of the most entertaining threads on ax

Abdul I would imagine you as follows:

Stiletto's on,
with fish net stockings,
a chrome ball guard,
your karate belt as your G-string,
A flemmington Shaver around your waist to shave your back every week,
Jar of grease, vasoline, in your hand.
Being the fearless leader that you are, showing your stuff off down Oxford street.

I know where to look for you.

hey matt any word on your next fight????

Birdseye
thanks for your earlier comments about incompetent trainers matching their fighters two weeks before a shedule fight. What pisses me off even more is when these incompetent trainers promise you, that this won't happen and then they turn round and do it anyway. It is nothing more than unprofessional. I have even had trainers say don't worry he will be O.K. How can they can possibly give me 100% Guarantee is nothing more than crap. Anything can happen in the fight game and any decent trainer should know that. I feel sorry more for the other fighter that is training hard to fight.

I have sorted out these problems for my promotion now John "Popeye" Bonanno will now be fighting Adrian “Rainy” Lavaro. for the WKA NSW Super Lightweight Title.

GO POPEYE!!!


BULLET

naughty Zac & Zac!

What is all this talk about pitbull, fighters fighting 2 weeks before your show. What is the big deal. Why can't they just fight again. I don't understand.

u don't understand jason. sorry it isn't very clear for you, the pitbull will clarify it for you, but basically, when a fighter agrees to fight on a promoter's card, and then that promoter finds that they are fighting 2 weeks beofre their card, they are going to get very unhappy, even pissed off.

Paul does not let any of us fight on any show 2 weeks before his show. and to even it up, he would expect the same courtesy from other gyms, that no one on his card fights 2 weeks before his card. this is to protect the card, and make sure there are no pull outs due to uneccesary injuries,or even a knock out (which no one will admit to when they take a fight).

Paul is being pissed down the back of his shirt by some trainers just to get their boys to fight, and it is totally disrespectful to paul and other promotoers.

cmon guys, lets get some standards, and some groundwork going in our sport. we need some consistency and some basic rules for trainers and promoters across australia to know and follow. saturday proved that there needs to be a greater emphasis on backstage management and promoting.


BULLET

Hi, Nickosis, hope you are well mate!

We 'talked' recently on a UK based thread after you had been told to come and say hello to us 'poms'. Just thought I`d see how your gimps are getting on. Did you remember to feed them today?

loads of love

Phil xxxxxxxxx

Jason
the big deal is about this. If a fighter agrees to fight on one of my promotions the deal is no fights thirty days before the scheduled bout. Why? Well in this State if a fighter is knocked out he has a manadtory thirty day suspension. That is state law. That means he can not compete for thirty days. So when a fighter takes a fight after he and his trainer promises that they won't fight thirty days before it is very unprofessional. The bottom line is that the fight has been advertised and there is another fighter training hard somewhere for this fight. I don't like to let any fighter down when he is training for a fight it is just not fair thats all. So I hope now you can understand my concern.

Thanks for for the info pitbull I didn't know that the fight game
had so many rules. I hope to see you at your show.That's if I am not too drunk.

Sorry I havent been on for a while I was still asleep after the debacle on Sat night. There must have been twenty five fights, two demos and an interview at what was a very poorly run show. There was even a decision on a fight changed heaps after the fight? The show finished at about 1.15am. TOO long, and now I hear he had fighters on who were supposed to fight two weeks later on the pitbull show. He shouldnt have had them on, he didnt need the fights.

BTW Cameron from QLD shouldnt be allowed to fight here if he doesnt have a go he was disgraceful.

Phil sweetee, hows its going over there, nice to see you come over to my house tonight, staying for a cuppa are you. I love you too, give our kids my love.

nickosis
you are one very strange dude. Very funny but strange glad too see you back though.

Dont bring the kids into this Nickosis, youve never been there for them before so dont pretend you will be now, just to impress all your ax 'friends'. I'll have two sugars in my tea though please.

Paul to be able to be part of the biggest thread on AX is dam strange. Heck I even wrote every thing you said to do, and of coarse cause a lot of Kaos. All I want in return is my Black Belt you promised.

Phil you have never been the same since that operation. Now my fellow AX and Pitbull Cronies, I must introduce you to Phil the "POM" , he is a nice bloke, you know family orientated. As for the kids, well he left me for another Man.

The Pot is still hot, 2 sugars and some bickees.

I only left because every night after work you`d come in and start going on about 'Abdul this' and 'Abdul that' and how wonderful he is. You think I couldn`t see what was going on? Well, do you, is that what you think?

I`ll be round in 36 hours (bit of a long way to travel).

Apoligises Phil,
yeah where is that little Camel, Abdul come out of your room.

Peace from down under Prince Phililp, we will meet again. How is the show looking, man this thread is big I have really come out of my shell, met a lot of goofy people and still the show goes on, Pitbull Show that is.

hi everyone, I have been out of sorts lately, lots of work and final assignments for uni due in two weeks so I had to leave ax for a bit. I am back now and hopefully we can return to discussions on the fight scene.

Can we have an update on the card after the debacle last week with stupid trainers

Hope all goes well for you Birdy, you have missed nothing, this thread had degenerated into a joke with some silly posts. Hows the training?

trainings going well thank goodness. Paul has been working on my attitude as well as my fitness, just helping me visualise different things. The pad rounds have been a lot harder than last time I think. It will be a great night as all the boys are looking good. Special mention to Mr Smiley Jason Edwards and Trent, these two guys will impress. As for Bullet, well he take care of business. That will be the fight of the night for sure.

Hello Pitbull could you please let us know if there has been any changes to your show next Saturday. Please let us know.
Cheers Jason

yeah, have there been any changes to the card other than John Bannono's fight.

What has happened to this thread. Everyone has abondoned it?

Sorry it has taken so long to respond. I have been very busy with organising the promotion and preparing ten of my fighters who are fighting. That does not leave much time for anything else. John "Popeye" Bonanno will now be fighting
Adrian “ Rainy ” Lavaro for the WKA State Super Lightweight Title. This has happened because the former opponent decided to fight on a promotion two weeks prior after promising he would not. I did not want to risk him being injuried or knockout so I replaced him. The Grant Turner VS Reinhard Badato Australian title fight won't be happening as well due to a serious illness in Grants family. Apart from that everything else remains the same, so far.

i just wanted to be the person to post the 324th time on this thread.

thanks pitbull, working on a Sunday? No rest for the wicked.

Good to see yopu on this thread Felix although I was disappointed with your post as usually you have so much to offer on other threads. I know you are a little distance from OZ but other people with no idea have commented on this thread, all opinions are welcome

FYI have a look at the teaching standards in oz thread. Phon is a very perceptive person.

Good luck to all the boys, only a few days to go

Hi guys
just too let you know there is still 15 fights matched this weekend. Tickets are selling well and my phones are starting to ring constantly from people wanting tickets so if you want a good seat get there early to avoid disapointment.

I am off to the tradional before weigh in movie with the boys, maybe resident evil. Then to the weigh in. The talk's over 8pm tomorrow. Good Luck to all

yeah this is it guys, good luck to all the guys and hope to see nikosis, stirer, kickboxer fan, awesome, and all the other guys including lucy tui at the show.


BULLET