KINGS OF OCEANIA
Hey all just to confirm that the first Kings Of Oceania Series will consist of 4 events this year. 2 in Auckland (March, November), 1 in Sydney (May)and 1 in Wellington (August)
We will not be under the K-1 Banner this year that story is to follow but you will all be happy with the match ups which promises alot of excitement for the future of our Oceania fighters

All the very best Dixon, and good luck to all who are fighting on these shows.

Kia Kaha (Stay Strong)

Does that mean no official WGP Qualifier in March this yr then?

yes it does

will it still be on tv 2?

for sure Rexy

Is there then goign to eb an "Oceania" section for our guys to try and qualify ???

Understand it might be hard to "Let the cat out of the bag" Dixon, but is there a K1 Oceania this year ??

Dixon

Any idea of the date for the Wellington Show yet?

Cheers
Mark

zdkbushido
Its be not eb lol couldnt hold back after all these years


Mite come to NSW to see the event

To answer your question ther will be no K-1 Ocenia event at this stage and Mark we are looking at August for Wellington

Thanks Dixon - any idea when the date for the Wellington show will be confirmed? I have a show planned for the 25th of August in Wellington and want to avoid it clashing.

Cheers
Mark

awesome that its coming to sydney at least. be great to watch if not even fight on the card

While on the subject of Oceania fighters, big ups to "The Chief" Peter Graham for his fight against Schilt a few weeks back. Taking it on short notice and pushing the champ through to end of 5 rounds. It doesnt get any tougher than that.

who will be fighting?

is there going to be a anzac fight this year

battle of anzacs again, fuck i hope so!

i wanna see Graham v Slowinski again Dixon

Grrrr Scotty,

So you wanna start a spell check war hey ??? :)

Game on...lol..Hang on, I don't have that much time to check yours..lol

Dixon

"We will not be under the K-1 Banner this year that story is to follow but you will all be happy with the match ups which promises alot of excitement for the future of our Oceania fighters"

Have dont know if ive missed it yet but have you posted why there will be no k-1 ?

Its a long and political complexed story Scotty but all will be reveilled in good time.
The 8 man line up looks like this.

Doug Viney
Peter Sampson
Leamy Tato
Steve McKinnon
Eric Noosa
Ben Edwards
Andrew Peck
Felise Leniu

Superfights (tbc)
Peter Graham v Alexander Ustinov
Reuben De Jong v Paul Kingi
Jason Suttie v Mystery Guest?

Paul Slowinski will not be available due to recovery and we are trying to put together the fight between him and Peter Graham in Sydney.
The Sydney show is planned for an Anzacs except for the Graham Slowinski fight.

Hey Mark unfortunately we are looking at Aug 25 due to TV coverage. But you never know how things change.

Hi Dixon, no Jay Hepi???

Havent ruled him out just have not heard on his progress since breaking his arm last year and possibly a tournament may be to much to test it

Sounds good Dixon.

Who is Eric Noosa?

Good to see Mckinnon is sticking with the heavyweights too.

Eric is someone who we have been looking at for some time and is in the same camp as Mckinnon. He has had a few good outings in Australia recently namely one with Nicholas Pettas laste year in Aus. Nicholas told me that he is a very tough competitor

"Paul Slowinski will not be available due to recovery and we are trying to put together the fight between him and Peter Graham in Sydney.
The Sydney show is planned for an Anzacs except for the Graham Slowinski fight."

Dixon, claim Sting as a Kiwi..:)

It would be easier to claim Peter as his father was a Kiwi.

Done Deal, there's your Anzac Match Up, Kiwi Peter "The Chief" Graham v Aussie Paul "The Sting" Slowinski..

Glad I could help your matchmaking...lol

u got any ideas of other possible match ups for ANZACS or is it a case of getting through the first fights first and then focus on matchups for the sydney show????
would love to come back to nz to fight on the first show if your looking for lighter fighters.
great looking 8 man there as well. and i think this will be a tough one for pete but having said that he just had a great showing against semmy schilt.

Full at this stage Chris but will consider you for Anzacs. The only problem is that do I brand you as a Kiwi or an Aussie over there? Peter has definately matured as a fighter and can rise to any occassion. But once you see who we have Jason matched up against you will be even more delighted. Cant tell you yet though it would be interesting to see out there who you think it is. If you already know dont post and I will know who you are as there is only a few in the know

Dixon

paula mataelee,(excuse my spelling)

ignashov!
how about you promote white sniper vs jan antolic!now theres a fight!

i would say alexey too (on the assumption yu cant use any of the top tier contracted K-1 fighters for superfights)

I know who it is its that pesky wabbit bugs lol

Yeah Jan and Chris would be a good fight, nice one Rexy. Jan seemed to have trouble adapting to the k1 rules though against Aaron, form what I've heard. Be interesting to see the rematch on Sifu's show.

Ray Sefo? ...Pete's been after that fight for some time now.

or maybe not haha

Slowinski?

from what i heard Jason will be fight Grant the bomber Barker.. but hey i only heard it form another sources... can some confirm this

Grant Barker? LOL

the dude in the middle

Judging by the wife beater tuck-in-styles on the left of him, i think this photo was taken in the David Hasselhoff era.

i fought grant barker in 1986!!!

good too see we got 3 bulldog fighters in this one

mckinnon bulldog castle hill
nosa bulldog manly
edwards bulldog act

not sure what im gonna do if nosa meets mckinnon as i train both of them...

hey nick has eric got his own club in sydney now?

hey nick has eric got his own club in sydney now?

no rexy, i train erik at bulldog manly, but also train steve mac 3 times a week when hes got big fights on, otherwise his bro stuart trains him at their gym in castle hill which is out western sydney about an hour from my manly gym which is on the northern beaches.
erik still works full time, trains early morns and classes at night.

I regretfully write that Doug Viney has pulled out of the tournament. Doug has his reasons why and it is truly unfortunate that he cant be on the show.

shame for Doug. He got better with each scrap last yr.

yea i second that,dougys outing against the chief for me was the fight of that series where he showed smarts and a big jaw to survive the chiefs rolling thunder.
Any hints on a replacement dixon?

Theres a couple of names in the hat but will confirm soon.

Hey Dixon,
It seems you have lost the franchise for K1...does this mean all the fighters owed money have now been paid?
Are you likely to get K1 back again??
benny

Hey Richie, its interesting how Jan never had any problems adjusting to the k1 rules when he won he fight against Charles August but when he loses to me its because he cant adjust to the rules:)

Hey Tonga Benny the rights are a reciprical thing lets just say I didnt want to be dictated too but all will revealed in due course and as far as the fighters tell me which one hasnt been paid obviously by your alias you got on stir. Keep firing them brother it might give me a reason to answer many questions. By the way you dont know Dougie do you?

Sorry to answer your other question not sure if I will get them back again it depends on the Honour and Integrity of the conditions.

Heeey Dixon, what about a girl fight on one of your cards?!!

Very keen on a Ladies bout on the card

Cool! how about me?

Give me a call Karen

A friend of mine at the Sunday News has tipped me off to the fact that there is going to be an article in tomorrow's edition that may shed some light on the NZ K-1 situation. We will be posting a transcript of the story on the news section of our website (www.brawla.net)tomorrow for anyone that misses it or can't access a copy of Sunday News.

Interesting
Just wondering when the former official promotoer of K1 Ocenaia will shed some light on the situtation as I have been ever so curious from the beggining.

And will this new K1 situation make it even more difficult for Oceania fighters access to the K1 finals and preliminaries?

Hello Folks

Very interesting indeed. ROGUE Fights will be going online very shortly and will be updated on a weekly basis. I should get the nitty gritty on whats on in the fight scene and the debatable interviews.

Be interesting to see what the Sunday News has to say. Anyhow Dixon's done and doing an outstanding job given the "political" juggling in the K-1.

BOA @ ROGUE Fights
Fight Editor

Just read the article,Dont think there is really anything political in the loss of the K1 brand at this stage anyway,with the information avaliable.
its a shame they way things have panned out for Ray and Dixon.

Seems similar to the Tua/Barry syndrome.

I hope they work it out(ray/dixon) we all know how ugly thats become(Tua/barry).

Both Dixon and Ray have done huge amounts for the sport in the southern hemisphere not just Aust/NZ.

not to take anything away from dixon

but here is a question "will ray now go back to his lee gar roots and bring back lollo?".yea forget about buck "bring back lollo" i say.

Now that is a formidible team.

ray will probably have a manager in japan or america now Id say.
shame how this story has come about, it will really damage dixons credibility in auckland even if he is in the right. You can never beleive what you read in the sunday news.
and if we loose dixons big shows the heavy weights are gona struggle to make any decent money fighting in nz.
its a real shame.hope his kings of oceana series goes ahead still but it will be hard selling tables when you have the press against you like this.
hope it all works out for the best

Dont know the details of the Ray/Dixon and K1 NZ situation, but dosent surprise me as my wife at one stage organised travel for Fighters for Dixon, and his own personal travel. He had an outstanding account with her company for several tens of thousands of dollars. Apparently, when investigated this was not the first time to happen with his travel.

As you can appreciate this left a bad taste in my mouth as I had referred Dixon to my wifes company and set up the initial introductions.

Suffice to say I havent spoken to Dixon since.

Whatever else is said, it is absolutely true that Dixon has done some great things for the sport in this region. I've said that many times and I still stand behind it.

I had heard Ray's side of the story some time ago but didn't do anything with it for just the reason that Rex has pointed out - I don't know how good it is for the sport in NZ if what is effectively the only (big) show in town is compromised. However when I found out it was going to be out in the media anyway I thought that people in the scene should have access to what has been said.

For all the good that Dixon has done (and he's done heaps)you have to ask what motive would Ray have for taking this step. I've spoken with Ray and he's really ticked. I have no doubt that he 100% believes the allegations and he appears to have some pretty solid evidence to back it up. If Ray's allegations are true - why should Dixon be protected from the consequences of his actions just because he is the main promoter in NZ kickboxing?

Ray is managing himself now and K-1 have apparently offered him the rights to run Oceania but he was still considering his options when I spoke to him last.

I still hope that the Kings of Oceania is a success and that it creates other opportunities for our Heavyweights but I still stand behind our decision to reprint the article - it's a big story for our sport and people deserve the opportunity to read it for themselves and come to their own conclusions.

damn dude, thats some bad press,is this why dougs pulled out? thats some bad luck dude!

As I said the story would come out eventually but now is the right time to shed some light on the whole scenario. I will be replying to Rays article so that I could shed my side of the story. The bottom line is that it should not have gone public because now this discreditting me.
Rex I appreciate your words earlier and I would endeavour to continue with Kings of Oceania because at the end of the day K-1 never gave a fuck about our fighters you just have to look at the non response that Peter and Jason have been getting all these years. I have had to wear the brunt of that.
In regards to Dougie not taking place it is because he does want to make it to K-1 but as I said to him you may as well keep yourself active until they came knocking but dont hold your breathe. If there is anyone who deserves a chance its Jason Suttie.
Shoshin you neglected to mention that the outstanding account to your wifes Travel agancy is for the outstanding Superleague airfares in which I have been left holding the bag so dont be a journalist like the prick who wrote Rays one and leave out the full story.
This certainly makes it harder to create something out of Kings of Oceania with this sort of publicity but its just what K-1 wants because at the end of the day when you become too powerful in your region they chop you at the knees to keep you in line.
I am now free to invite who I want and to host whatever discipline I want now and if this creates avenues for Oceania fighters too have a crack at K-1 because they wish for them not to participate in my events I invite all of you to advantage of it because those that have been on the grind deserve it.
Matt theres always 2 motives and 2 stories. In the meantime I have a show that I have to try and organise MAYBE.

..... LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL!!!!!! ..... Hilarious

I dont think its very funny at all.were are heavy weights gona get fights for good money now?whats guys like sampson , vinnie and leamy do to get to the k1?

Hello Folks

Its actually quite serious this situation, because it will leave a big hole where someone credible and capable of organising an event such as K-1 OCNA is in doubt. Dixon at the moment is the only such person, and yeah the story has done some significant damage.

Rexy, absolutely correct: whats gonna happen with the heavy-weights? who's gonna come up with the right purse for them to fight. Tough going ahead this year, and just when the change of guard with the new-comers taking center stage.

Whatever transpired between Ray and Dixon could have been sorted out amongst themslelves, however everyone has the right to their opinion and how they want to express it, im sure we all know that. Ray has the right to say what he wants and so does Dixon. Its really unfortunate it got out of hand and had to come out so open. I hope both Ray and Dixon can work through this.

Dixons comments on Jason Suttie has been very consistent and I'm sure we can all respect that. Jason probably deserves the shot the most, simply because of all that heart.

With air tickets and etc., doubt this is a good place to wash dirty linen in public (forums). So lets leave that out.

Hey Dixon, here's a thought. How about hosting a pride event? Maybe NZ and OCNA are ready for the all out MMA. Who knows... Mark Hunt V Reuben De Jong Superfight to start with. Pop us an email would love to get your side of the story on ROGUE FIGHTS maiden online issue home page feature.

BOA @ ROGUE Fights
Fight Editor

My "LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL" was a light hearted, and maybe misplaced, observation of Irony. After all everyone deserves the right of reply.

Rexy, as far as the future of the heavyweights is concerned, I agree. However, like the fall of any dynasty, someone else will come along (Ray, if the rumours are true, Scotty had a great show last year with S1, why cant he do it, or even Dave?) and perhaps make it better than before..... who knows.

I would expect that the Oceania scene is too important for Iishi to simply let it fall apart. I had always seen the attraction as being the opportunity to participate in a K1 show...... Not a Dixon show. Quite happy to stand corrected if I am wrong about this. It will be interesting indeed to see which side of the line parties take if it comes to a question of picking one or the other.

I have a serious question though, all the heavyweights previously mentioned are/were contracted to whom..... Dixon, OR K1? If they are contracted to the K1 umbrella are they then duty bound to do the bidding of K1, therefore matches outside of the sanctioned events might be out of bounds????. However, if they are/were contracted to Dixon, and that was under the auspice of being an agent to K1, then they are free agents?????
Then again, maybe that's the private realm of the fighters and it may have nothing to do with the public, if so, then no need to answer.

........ just one other question........ (promise)

Why would the promoter have to be in NZ, I hear Ray Matsumura runs a good show........?

no fighter has an ongoing contract with dixon or k1 in nz anyway.they all sign single fight contracts each fight from what i understand.
there are some big promoters in aussie that could do it.Be interesting to see if tv2 still air the big japanese k1 cards now?

The only one capable at this capacity is Ray Matsamura but if there is one thing that I would take my hat off to Ray is that he established his own brand in Xplosion. Its interesting that some years ago Tarik Solak told me to build my own brand because sooner or later they will screw you, which is what we are doing. TV2 have already declined K-1 for the overseas shows as they too are fed up with them changing the goalpost all the time. TV2 have made a committment to the local shows and Sydney but who knows it may change after the article that was written.

Dixon my fight on Phillip Lam show has been cancelled due to Jan going home or something so if you have space on your up in coming show i would be interested, dont wanna waste the past months training.

Bwaha..holy heckaroo, what a bunch of squabblers..the rabbit is back to fix this up, in fact who cares about this. Im sure everyone has made mistakes in their life at some stage or another and this is like what the mcgyvor was saying and I agree, this couldve been resolved behind closed doors.@#ck who cares unless your on here everyday catching up with the daily soap opera on ax. Rumbles who cares about the new fighters coming thru k1 in nz, get off your fachuka and get them out into the big wide world and fight instead of holding mcgyvors hand.

boa..its time to wake up and smell the cookies. jason does deserve to go to japan, not forgetting what happened to him at the last fight with the skyscraper sampson and slowinsky last year. The legend is too short but defnately the greatest fighter in OCNA.

And why cant other promoters bring in the big names like what mcgyvor did as like he said its not under the K1 banner anymore until Ray gets things organised with a new team to get K1 back here as he does have the rights now..ha bwaha..like mark hunt does with pride in OCNA, not forgetting the mcgyvor for bringing it here in the first place.

bwaha...rofl..

yeah bugs is right get over this crap, are you still running the show or what an if so whats the line up

Well me and the missus r still flyin up to AK in March for the show. The tournament last year was off the hook.

Being a non-fighter i couldnt give a rats ass about politics and my view is such that all this should NOT have been made public. That article should have probably been held out of the paper until at least something was proved or resolved.

I think the whole K-1 organisation needs to tidy up its act globally cus MMA is really starting to explode.

Well me and the missus r still flyin up to AK in March for the show. The tournament last year was off the hook.

Being a non-fighter i couldnt give a rats ass about politics and my view is such that all this should NOT have been made public. That article should have probably been held out of the paper until at least something was proved or resolved.

I think the whole K-1 organisation needs to tidy up its act globally cus MMA is really starting to explode.

.. and Ray needs to fight more back in his home country before hes over the hill!

bwaha....chucky wolf

do you think ray gives a flying fish if he fights here or not,I think his bank account speaks better than that and saying hes over the hill..lol...why dont you tell him that and tell him too, for going to the paper and making this public...lol..well see how over the hill he really is when he knocks ya punk ass out...bwaha ha

bugs fanny writes ...

"... Im sure everyone has made mistakes in their life at some stage or another and this is like what the mcgyvor was saying and I agree, this couldve been resolved behind closed doors.."

so should he have gone public or not? yu seem to have changed yur mind pretty quickly yu tosser.

bugs fanny writes ...

"... Im sure everyone has made mistakes in their life at some stage or another and this is like what the mcgyvor was saying and I agree, this couldve been resolved behind closed doors.."

so should he have gone public or not? yu seem to have changed yur mind pretty quickly yu tosser. i think if yu had a brain it would be lonely.

Why all the sympatetic noises for Dixon..come on now !

He has misappropriated / stolen someone elses money.
He has people begging to be paid,and has done for some time ,and is he going without , or just the guys who really need it?
Then he cries foul about the news paper articles.

I think the fighters should have some self pride and everyone else should shut him out in the cold .

The only reason some of the fighters are unavailable for events is because of all this .
I look forward with great interest for reply Dixon mentioned
LOL

whoooaaaa,Kick a man while hes down guys.Typical tall poppy syndrome especially here in NZ.

Dixon shouldnt even dignify this thread with responses to what has happened.
And how soon people forget that if it wasnt for dixon then we wouldnt have been able to watch our fighters in action live and through television.

And then been able to have the privilage to put our 2 cents worth in this public forum on how our kiwi fighters are performing in the oceania arena. what would you guys be watching if it wasnt for dixon.Rugby? Motor Racing?

Thats what it would have been if it wasnt for dixon we would be living off the scraps of highlights on the late night sports show with dobbo on TV3.

Or be force fed the fight for laughs from dean lonergern(which gets worse every year)

There are 2 sides to every story and we are led to believe at this stage that rays version is the gospel truth.
Im not dispelling his story,rather just keeping an open mind till dixon is able to respond to the allegations.

So till then Leave Dixon alone to do what he does best and thats put on a show.

Im sure there is enough for him to worry about in just putting the show togeather.And with the pending allegations it is now going to be even more difficult for him to put these shows on.

So rather than kicking the man while he is down why not just show support for the man whom has bought this level of entertainment to this country,till you hear all the facts.If you want to support the fighters ,then support the promoter too cos without him there is no show and consequently no fights for our fighters.

If hes down---------whos fault is that ?

dixon is the show on????????

maybe there should be another thread about how people feel about dixon........ i thought this was about kings of oceania, now is there even going to be one ..... i have enjoyed all the action dixon has brought,watching top atheletes kick ass is just awesome.........please dont dissapoint everyone by not doing anymore...........

At this stage gentleman the show is still on and replacements for Doug and now also Andrew Peck who has landed a good 3 fight deal in Japan with a new organisation. I can confirm that I have invited Charlie Smiler who had a good outing with Leamy a few months back and I am also looking at Steve Fielding in Sydney. I have considered inviting Europeans but its just too costly at this stage but I will do so in the other 3 events.
Reuben De Jong and Paul Kingi is confirmed
Ustinov v Graham is still pending as I am waiting on an answer from Graham
Suttie v Mystery Man is still on.
We are currently in the process of a major TV deal for the Oceania series which is far bigger than ever before (then again maybe not now LOL)
Thanks alot to all who have supported me through this process and to those who have been bagging me all I can say is you have a right to think what you want.
I have had very supportive messages from people here and abroad and thats all one needs to keep their head up until all the facts come out. To those who have called and you know who you are I thank you.

Hey Dixon

Ofcourse the show will go on. I am sure you can sort whatever out with Ray- i can only hope. Afterall we dont know the whole story. Thats for you guys to sort out i guess.

Graham V Ustinov will be one very interesting fight. You know as well as i do, there will always be fighters queing up to fight regardless, because evryone wants a piece of the big time. Thats the fact. At least NZ gets the K-1 free to air (or should i say got...) and not have a user pays system via SKY Pay per view.

So yeah, can we look fwd for any surpise revalations in the next K-1? or will you call it D-1? LOL....

Cheers and thanks
BOA @ ROGUE Fights
Fight Editor

awesome dixon so whats the line up

Hey Boa D-1 I never thought of that. We will still call it Kings of Oceania as this was a brand that we created not K-1. Jayzpee its pretty much what I posted up and there are reasons why I cannot post up the mystery man yet but thats another story.

Hey Benny he gets a lot of support cus we end users enjoy his shows. Without them, the heavyweight scene (and max) would probably still be under a blanket in this country. If he doesnt pay fighters or watever, thats for him sweat to out with them. A contract is legally binding document remember. Atheletes have rights in the work place. Do something about and dont moan on public forums.

Yeah Benny It would be interesting to know which one I owe money too?

Hey Dixon,ever thought about putting some of the top amateurs in the country on your show to give them a taste of fighting at shows of your calibre.
A number of up and coming fighters spring to mind.

Callen Dean
Eugene Bareman
Kite Moataane
Gregory Stewart
Brent Stone
Nathan Awatere
Easton Nicholas
Mark Farrelly
Tim Fairweather
Jason McDonald
Geoff Ahipene

to name a few,would be good to see the up and coming amateurs on your card.

I have always endeavoured to put Amateurs on the under card and I will consider the names you have submitted

i think eugene is one of the only top amateurs but i think kite just won the nz title,

and callum dean...i think hes the rooster from wellington

Yea Callen is a definate contender(If i can use that word,LOL.Sorry suger & Sly,LOL)

Yea, love watching eugene fight,a nice classy fighter and Kite just won the NZ WMC Heavyweight title in Dec Last Year against Brent Stone of Zero tolerence.Thats one apeice and the 3rd would be a good match to settle it all.

Does anyone have a copy of "Battle of the Anzacs" from 2005?

I missed most of the fights and am keen to get a copy. Its the one where Graham fought Alexey in the main event.

Chucky Wolf if you call Leonie at the office I think there are some copies there 09 8387373

cheers i will.

brent stone got koed last year by joel martin for the tba nz heavy weight title. so i think joel and kit need to fight to decide who is the undisputed champ of nz heavy weights. but now with the k1 boys all branchin out and looking for more fights you might see the doug vinny and peter samspsons challenging for these titles.

yea good idea rex,how bout that for your card dixon,get an undisputed heavyweight champ.a unification bout.
What rules would they fight tho? TBA?WMC?

Joel would be keen to go under FTR
Cheers
Stu

wmc and tba are the same rules, for title fights its full thai rules.

since as how you blokes are so knowledgable, can you tell me what involvement Dixon had in the sport before he saw an opportunity to selflessly work for the sole benefit of the fighters alone.If it wasnt for him...

Bugs you wouldnt even have a clue who Eugene is mate. Did yu google it?

wolfy wolf.. I seen him fight on video like all the fighters with the k1 you see on tv...you make me laugh.. I didnt say I know him so go play with your bone..

Concert and event promotions

thats not fair Dixon,you already knew, which almost makes you possibly the only one on this forum who did.except of course your mum and dad. since me and you are talking again, how did you become aware that you had a product you could market? and do you still smile and wonder why, or how no other professional, like yourself could see the untapped potential that existed in n.z?

Hey Dixon im going to start a new thread because this has gone way away off the topic and onto a new and interesting diversion to the existing one so far.MY AX NAME IS OL 1 EYE, but only because im focused on 1 thing,and i dont have that long to waste time on past events and happenings.those who do are the same ones that gather around the fire and talk bout things that are not profitable. no offense to fire dwelling old guys. those with issues, start your own arguement on another thread so i dont have to forget what the hell your agenda was in the first place.im old and please excuse me being cranky.respect your elders and shit like that blah blah blah lol

holy cow you 1 eyed freak.. forget the respect your elders rubbish, that disappeared years ago, cant you tell by the crime rates now and the young punks bashing the teachers now. I quite agree with you tho, go start your own thread where the losers like yourself go and get off where the real men go to chat, huh so we wont see your name on this thread again unless your all fachucka, and I bet you are and to disrespect a man of mcgyvors intentions to bring the sport of K1 to NZ in the first place why didnt you get off your fachucka and do it yourself. Yeah thought so, just a jealous punk who lives on the street dreaming of a white christmas.

GEE you obviously got a dose of mixamatosis early in life that affected your brain you said a real lot whilst saying nothing again and again and again. your views are narrow and so is your mind.I am not aware of just how i disrespected dixon. neither was he because he answered a question whilst you just were having a puff on your joint.your suggestion of going to where real men go to chat is strange coming from a rabbit. what do you think Dixon? I think you have atracted an ex closet faggot that is in denial,and only you can set him straight.remember he follows your shows. not your fault of course, but keep an eye out for obsessive nervous paranoid and jealous types that see you as their master.me and you both know we are straight but this rabbit dont care.he loves you so tell him you got a woman and your not interested in breeding with the tosser.that is the case eh dixon. dont let the team down now dude lol

hey 1 eye freak.. I thought you going onto your own thread...damn you must be gay.. a close mate of rumbles i bet

i have respect for rex.i have respect for dixon. i even have respect for gays like yourself.just dont stand next to any of us when you take a piss. oh yeah, you sit when you pee. statistics reveal that 95 percent of ax forum contributers that are as brave as a coward are either named bugs bunny,have physical deformities,and mental illness,or are gay. congratulations. you score the perfect 100. something to toss over for you. another fact that you can claim is that your a wanker.well done.thats something your mum and dad said would happen the minute they laid eyes on you. lol

the rabbit is due to drop a few names again soon. probably busy googling away now, he aint gt a clue.

hey 1 eye freak.. you must be an adopted child cos when you was born you was so ugly your parents were so frightened they gave you up. 5 foster families later you still wasting everyones time by playing on here talking donkeys, maybe playing with the wolf and rumbles, ha a threesome.. you poofter 1 eye.. ha and now you kissing there bums you greaser, I thought you staying off this thread you gay freak

i can see we have started off on the wrong foot rabbit. maybe i should offer you a freindly gesture by mailing your foot back.then maybe a bit of balance will make its way to your mental processes,but i doubt you have much to work with. by the way it was 2 foster families, but at least my parents are not my brother and sister like yours are lol

its good to see you coming to your senses one eye that we started off on the wrong foot. now I can send your big mouth back to you in the post..lol.. they cant even fit in the envelope freaker..peace then

when a fool offers peace, they think they are buying time to have a thought emerge from there brain sooner or later. also i didnt realise the mental institution had a post office.

bugs is just a typical message board troll. no knowledge of the sport. like a fly on shit. impossible to shake.

moderators where are ya? your letting idiots with names like bugs bunny ruin ax all together. just delete all of there rubbish or this site will turn into another boring old bunch of bitches talking shit under aliases

Here here!! They both talking some shit.

sshh your mouf. Plis.

i apologize for offence or distraction caused by my comments so far.i really only wanted to know something from Dixon,and got an answer,but the bugs bunny dude distracted me with offensive diatribe. whatever that means lol. i will heed your instruction jamie. you are right and i must concede to wisdom. and you said please. a gentleman indeed! i stand corrected and chastised by my peers.

yeah bow down to your master 1 eye... you started this kindergarten stuff with your gay comments.. if you stop being a gay boy, then we can all carry on with the way this thread was suppose to be.. so lets get over this and talk about oceania, without your gay talk..

goodbye bugs.i aint allowed to talk to you anymore cos youre the only gay in this village lol

Very entertaining guys but bugs I dont think ol 1 eye was being disrespectful in asking me a couple of questions. I first saw a future when I went to watch Ray for the first time in Japan, it was June 1999. He fought a bloke named Jim Mullen in Sapporro. I was absolutely blown away by the whole event and production. Comming from concerts and events I took to it straight away. I remember sitting in the Hotel room with Ray, Neil and Rony as we talked about the potential of it happening down here. I remember going through the names as too who could fight in the 8 man. December 1999 I approached Ken Imai(then the CEO)about hosting a K-1 event in New Zealand which just happened to co incide with the launch of their new World League starting in 2000. Prior to this you had to be invited to participate in K-1 there wasnt a qualifying system, shit there still isnt one. Hope that answers your questions.

I think you hit the nail on the head Dixon. The qualifying sysytem is what hurt the the K1 in Oceania. The fans were happy to see the shows and watch the fighters do their thing. After a few years they wanted to follow a fighter or fighters to the Dome instead of seeing the same top fighters fighting each other. The pool of talent that has emerged has been great. Good luck with your future ventures and whatever hassles or mistakes have been experienced in the past will be a learning curve. The shows you promote are the best spectacle out there. I will no doubt see you on the circuit.

good stuff mcgyvor, but you didnt have to say all that cos nosy 1 eye wanted you to tell him. you the man in nz, not some 1 eyed gay boy. And its been good the way the events have been seen on tv, and some very big boys have come thru and are still. Wow full steam ahead in 2007..bring it on

thanks Dixon for answering a simple question with an even simpler answer.i am a we bit nervous to ask another question that might arouse a gay bashing response from a certain ax character.i wont mention his name directly . i said i wouldnt in my prayers last night to the lord. hes got buck teeth thats all im saying lol one further question if i may ask. be honest and avoid being diplomatic if at all possible. almost an impossable ask, being a promoter, but have a go at it anyway lol. do you see something strange about the way some core groups within our fighting community have behaved toward you. im talking about the ones that eyes go all soft and gooey at the mention of your name. like religous zealots who have recognised gods chosen one.I know you know the types im talking about.i have watched you when they intercept you at shows.i have seen you shake your head as if to say, with a bewildered smile on your face, "what the f**k" after a worshiper has blirted out what it is that you have done for them in their life.and you dont even know them,never knew just watching the K1 healed their asthma. I know you. youre a promoter. you smile, never disagree openly, and are freindly. you dont make these people.i just wanna see what you think.

hey mcgyvor, ole one eyes after you as he said hes been watching you. Just dont bend over or hes got you, and it could hurt..lol.

Every promoter enjoys the limelight and I am not afraid of saying that I do too but those who know me or at least I think they know me also know that it doesnt change the person that I am. I will give anyone the time of day to talk at the shows because at the end of the day you are also a host. When things go wrong you have to be countable, I think I know where you are comming from with the different core groups in the fighting community and it does become political. Sometimes you get blamed unnecassarily for things that dont happen in the fight game but thats just part of promoting. I have always endeavoured to stay neutral within the past K-1 Events in New Zealand with all the fighters. There have been controversial decissions in the past that I have either been directly or indirectly involved with but you cant have it all good all the time. You are asking some interesting questions which tells me that you are someone known in the game possibly hence your alias never the less they have been interesting to answer. Many people have told me not to write on hear because of my status in the industry or you shouldnt have to answer them in fact I remember stating that I would never post again unless it was promoting events yet here I am. I dont mind answering valid questions because its been an amazing journey. And to be honest if I was thinking logically I wouldnt even continue in this line of work but I have an obligation to the fighters who have put themselves on the line to provide shows for them and probably a personal vendetta against K-1 to stick it too them. Peter Graham has moved there which is great and if Jason is next because of their boycott against me then we have won either way. If they dont get the chance then it shows that they were never going to get it. It would make a great book aye

hey focus wasnt dixon saying that the oceania series was better than waiting for the japs to invite you over to fight? wasnt the series a progressive improvement? didnt the fighters have to qualify by winning the event here,to earn a place in the Aussie version and winning that meant you earnt your ticket to the Dome? the only thing that gets in the way of success is losing. Audience response is not your concern,training fighters is. do your job and the audience is guaranteed to notice the skill and thrill great hearted fighters like Jason Suttie provide by their performances.Dixon coulnt promote for 7years and grow his K1 buisness if we had second rate fighters.Former manager and trainer Lollo heimuli had something to work with when he got Ray to the Dome.the K1 fights were unheard of to all but a few of us.Ray fought his way to the top and the rest is history.if you get a fighter like that you wont need Dixon either,Dixon will need you.peace my old friend.i have followed Jasons career for 15years.i thought he was going to crack it last year.he was so so close.his name is already cemented in N.Zs national history.This year I will be cheering for him even louder.

I think that Focus was refferring to the lack of consistency in their qualifying system which I have to agree with. Jason should have got a second chance last year as one of the best losers in a GP. He should have been in Vegas which was always supposed to be for the best losers in a reppecharge event. Both Peter and Jason deserved a spot ahead of Badr. Not taking anything away because I actually think the guy has great talent and his contrversial attitude wether we like it or not sells. But this is a prime example of K-1 not having a consistent fair system.

Thanx for taking the time to answer Dixon. you are first and foremost in my mind a promoter. a buisnessman. a professional. i have watched you because you do things so well, i would be a fool to say i aint going to copycat your ways,in a smaller way of course.i havent the time or patience to enrol in a three year university gig and earn a degree.so i cheat a little and observe just how you approach your job. it aint rocket science, but it is science.its only easy when you know the formula.yes i am well known in this sport.i have made mistakes.those in glass houses shouldnt throw stones.i try not to but im human and my brains have taken a beating over the years.i forget sometimes to stop judging.someone once said " a king who makes a judgement before he has heard all the evidence,is a fool indeed" i am not a king.i dont have the evidence,but i know a buck toothed fool of a rabbit who matches the qualifications of the fool that is mentioned lol

I agree 1 eye I think Dixon said it better than me. I was talking about the floors in the qualifying system but I agree with what you say about the level of fighters and the standard needed to get the fans behind it. The promotion is the vehicle for the the fighters to perform.

Politics politics politics. someone thats in the thick of it can just ask and you shall not receive. Thanks for your counsel on chris's txt. i see the point i missed.and yes he has a very good point. the public are not fooled very often,so win this year and i will start busking to earn the fare over to japan. Hey Dixon can you lend me your rabbit and a big hat? actually a i only need a small hat to match dat nasty wabbits bwain lol

I don't know much about the Ray/Dixon/K1 problem but I want to say that Dixon went out of his way to support Dion and I, he took a chance on Dion who had only had 4 fights at that time, he was always honest in dealing with me, looked after us well and in my opinion went beyond the usual promoter duties.

Good stuff Miriam. Can i ask you aquestion. Is Dixon on the committee of the W.M.C.in NZ. Will he be afforded a seat on the board,or committee? sometime in the future perhaps if his normal duties dont get in the way?

Hi, Sorry not sure where you are going with that. No Dixon is not on the WMC Board.

will you bitches stop with the politics and talk about the line up.......enough already man blah,blah,blah........some exciting fighters on the card predictions .......?????peter sampson,steve mckinnon an lemy tyson tatou.....

Well since we are way off topic anyway, Do you have a website i could visit and how do i go about joining your Sanctioning Body.

look no disrespect one eye , but man why didnt you start up a thread on dixon, some of us dont care we just want to see some good hard fights come on man stop with this and tell me who you think will be the king of oceania......

Hey Jayzpee and everybody

Good call. My moneys on Peter Sampson. Best Kiyokushin exponent with a solid punching and all-round game. However Jaosn Suttie must be amped on getting one back, so he will always be in the frame. Will we see re-match?

Leamy Tato is another guy who is impressive, provided he adds a few more tricks and retreats to the neutral corner early enough in case of Knock down- he should provide some entertaining KO's. And then there's the chief Peter Graham....What can i say, never write him off.

Hey Dixon, whats the story with Ustinov? strictly super-fighter...? or will he play a qualfiying role via OCNA.... possibly with whatever organisation (may or may not be K-1). If this giant-man mountain is in it, going to be very hard to stop.

Oh BTW... ladies fight if its a go, how about Karen Lynch V Angela Parr re-match. Would be nice to see Karen even the score :)Wouldn't that be great!!!

Cheers and Thanks

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Fight Editor

well put boa..........

Ok since as how you asked nicely jayzpee. It would be a brave man to go against PETER SAMSON.hes big, he kicks and when he remembers to punch he has got a good one of those as well.His downside is his inexperience. But he beat jason suttie i hear some cry! Havent you ever thought that Jason is so tough he would hide a broken leg in order to make the fight.Its all about fight strategy.If you have a tall strong kicker who doesnt punch much how do you think you would approach it if you could give advice to jason? the next time they meet.


Unless jason retires through injury, his pride wont let him retire till hes put the record straight.thats going by the way he thinks,not me! Jason has a superfite against a mystery man,so rule him out of winning the 8man obviously.My pick to make the final is Peter Sampson vs Steve McKinnon. Andrew peck is allways a dark horse but if he meets a puncher his jaw will let him down.Wait a minute I think Andrews whole bodies going to let him down,cos he will be somewhere else wont he?There is a couple of new faces in the group and this is N.Z so its like a lucky dip this year in all honesty.YES i think McKinnon will do well till he gets kicked through the ropes with back kicks because his square Thai style stance makes him a n easy target. he will have all powerful kicks to deal with and if he fights at a distance he is he will be history.The K1 rules? Do we still piss around with the rules that stop clinching? Then we may as well play checkers instead of chess.

Yea ,i heard pete was making the trip north to train with the Balmoral boys before his fight with jason.

That was smart and i would back money that he is probably doin the same for his buildup to the next show.

Very smart move by him and his trainer.There is nowhere he could get adequate sparring anywhere south of the Bombays and north of Wellington, without having to carry his sparr partners.The best way to improve is by being tested by the likes of Dougie Viney and the rest of the Balmoral boys. Confidence comes from knowledge, and knowledge is a tool that the heart uses ,as if it were a sword, to cut down an opponents attack.The knowledge i speak of isnt found in the words of a fighter but rather in his ability to convert that knowledge into physical expression resulting in victory.That is ofcourse my way of looking at the subject anyway.

Dixon, any confirmation words from The Chief yet on the proposed Ustinov scrap?

As said before the cheif is out due to committments but here is the official line up.

8 Man Tournament Match Ups will be announced on Monday
Leamy Tato
Peter Sampson
Felise Leniu
Eric Noosa
Ben Edwards
Steve McKinnon
Charlie Smiler
Jason Reti

Super Fights
Paul Kingi v Reuben De Jong
Jason Suttie v Mystery Man
Doug Viney v Alexander Ustinov

I think a good draw for the 8man would be the 4 Kiwi's against the 4 Aussies in the 1st round Quarterfinals.

Here's a thought for a exciting 1st Round Line-up...

Leamy Tato Vs Ben Edwards
Peter Sampson Vs Felise Leniu
Jason Reti Vs Eric Noosa
Charlie Smiler Vs Steve McKinnon

Anybody got anyother sugestions???

welll that is one hard fight for doug vinie. ustinov is a monster and he uses his size so well. I love the way he bounces people of the ropes before kneeing them in the head!

Hey Rex, unless dougie has re-entered the event,which is very unlikely, They will have to match Ustinov up with someone else.There has been a reasonably well kept secret in regards to Jason Sutties opponent.Could that be because his opponents availability to fight depends on remaining injury free after an upcoming match,or the K1 has him fimly under contract and has made a better offer.It would be unfortunate for us to loose the opportunity we have enjoyed,when the stars of K1 were free to visit and take part in a fight in the ring.But regardless of that the show must go on.

No matter who fights im hoping you still get this televised on TV dixon,so that we whom arent living in the big smoke can get to see the action.

All the best dixon

ol 1 eye writes:
unless dougie has re-entered the event, which is very unlikely.

This is the first time iv'e commented on any of your posts as i have a policy of not commenting on people's post's that have not posted there identity on there profile as to whom they are so that i atleast know to whom i am talking to...but...I very much don't think that Dixon would have posted that Dougie Vs Ustinov was confirmed if Dougie had not re-entered the event & accepted the Match.

Best of luck to both Charlie Smiler and Leamy Tato with their fights ...and good luck to Dixon with this and future promotions.

Kia Kaha

Personally,Darkvader, I dont give a rats ass who puts the show on.Dixon has worked his magic in the marketing and promotion of His buisness.In this sense i would work for him without pay, just in the hope that it would rub of on me.I know some may be wondering how i could Admire his abilities and take him to task,all in the same breath.Ive said my peice,opened my lunch box up in front of the whole school,and held nothing back. The bullies in this particular schoolyard have resisted attacking me, my friends think i am taking a big risk.I can look after myself.In direct relationship to Dixon, the good he has done,outweighs the bad.He doesnt need the K1 to survive.Hell, we have the best clay to work with here in n.z and Dixon is in a posistion to not just learn from an error or two, but may see him invest wisely in the infrastructure of our sport and expand worlwide,like his shows television broadcast have done.Like i said, THE SHOW MUST GO ON!!

Doug has confirmed as of yesturday and understands fully that this will be the toughest fight in his career. In saying that I believe that in the event of a victory it will cement himself as a contender against some of the best. I said last year that our guys needed to fight others from abroad in order put them self on the global stage. The beauty about the heavyweights is that all it takes a one shot to make or break your career and no matter what the odds are they all have a punchers chance. Jasons opponent has been held back for a reason but its got nothing to do with his injury or negotiations with fighters.

What does Ustinov weight in at?

between 135 - 140

Hey Dixon

Good break for Jason Retti. He is impressive and fiesty all round game. Got a good spinning back fist on him. Good on you for bringing him to the mix. Possible future star.

Doug will work the big Russian around, he will have a smart game plan. Who knows, maybe an upset beckons.

Ladies fight looks a go? or yet to be confirmed at this stage?

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Fight Editor

Well things are working out for you Dixon, and i for one am glad. Sparring with Peter Sampson is going to be a good thing for Dougie. He will need to be sharp and if he has a good result ,win, lose or draw he will deepen the attention and respect of our people for even jumping in with this guy. The winning of this fight is done on the roads and in the gym,behind closed doors,away from the noise and the bright lights. where the strategy and gameplan are devised and developed.Yep thats pretty close to what Ali said of training for such a fight. This matchup reminds me of how Howard Cossell spoke before the Ali-Foreman fight, in a way that was almost begging Ali to come to his senses and pullout of the almost certain death that fight would result in. This, the toughest test of Dougies career, may well be his very own personal moment of crisis,where he has to reach deep deep down inside himself and find that something special.Keep your eye on the prize my young freind.

yea the vicious one to pull the win out on a close points,the big russian will have to catch him.The chief couldnt do it and ran outta time,even caught dougy with the rolling thunder and still wasnt enough.

And with the master lollo in dougys corner, dougy will be well prepped for this fight.

GO TONGA

To put things into context,it must be said that Neither of these fighters are the Ali/Foreman of our code. I think it is the same David and Goliath scenario all the same.It was the wisdom of Davids fight plan that beat that beast Goliath, and he made it look easy,just like a Champion. I know i was there(Lol) As i will be when dougie meets his giant:)

Whats Dougs current fight weight, mid 90's?

steve fielding should be in the team of aussies there over some of the listed fighters.

We have placed Steve as first reserve but as far as the Aussies go Ben, Felise and Steve should be there along with Eric who we have been watching for sometime now

Well i'm trying my damndest to get myself on there Boa Rogue! haha. about to start nagging-according to Michelle that's the best way to get things done ;-)
Dixon i'm about to email Jason a list of names and trainers details so fingers crossed.
Karen

Hey Karen

Wouldn't that be awesome, first ladies show-card (under-card fight) or should we say "super-fight". Nagging or whatever works, would be wonderful to see a ladies fight at this level (If i am not mistaken). So yeah fingers crossed alright. I am sure Dixon would be keen to promote this.

Good luck Karen!!!

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Fight Editor

hey boa the first women to fight on the nzk1 shows was ngapera parata vs cant remember her name, it wasthe first show dixon done i was there.
Rexy

Hey Dixon, is this show all go? and if so, where and when, cheers.

P.S. I'm not sure if it's already been mentioned above, I couldn't find anything when I looked.

no me. oh well. NEXT! Rex, you've got mail.

Hey all some unfortunate news as Jason Suttie has had to pull out due to an operation that he must do. I personally wish him all the best. We have re shuffled the card now and Doug Viney will now fight mystery man and Matt Samoa will fight Ustinov. The event will be held on 31st March at the Auckland Town Hall, yep we are moving central.

Bummer to hear that Jase had to pull out, all the very best with his op. Samoa VS Ustinov should be interesting.

The town hall, dam..I liked it being out west

oh no the bubble is back..good luck to him anyway and hope he knocks the bigman out..go mat

Rex I can concur the first ladies bout was in 2000 . Ladies I can say that Jason and I are in the process of working on fights for you next month.

Goodluck Dixon you have always treated me with respect at your shows.
All the best
Regards
Lucy Tui
Not interested in the politics of what is happening over there.

Was that the K-1 in Greenlane? The one Andrew Peck won? if so, I was there also, what a night.

when is the show?? any matches yet??

10 akoe DIXON hope you are having success with
your endevours Bro.I hope you & Mr SEFO r able to
sort your bisso.It is (no) one's bisso but yours & His aye.
I really hope you r able to push on through with this Oceania kickboxing
shamble's. Oceania kickboxing has to get organized & you have the SAY for
N.Zed at the moment & rightfully so i say.
YOU,Mr TARIK Mr RAY.MATSUMERA & A FEW other people you know OVER HEA in
Australia haf to get your heads together and sort out where Oceania KICKBOXING
is heading in 5 10 years time.K1 is in need of a boot.Sorry if i have iefended
anyone.All the best Bro Alex.

hey wheels i dont think oceana muay thai is in a shambles at all. dixon has the heavy weights competing, scotty has the middle weights sorted and the amatuer seen is strong as ever.I cant speak for the whole country but here in the lower north island the scene is cranking. We have a very strong scene down here with regular fights and a good base of novices coming through on the smaller shows and some really good amatuer fighting on the bigger shows. I think its better than its ever been in nz.In the lower north island the tba titles are very sort after and the people holding them are being challenged constantly.
I think tba are the only titles in nz that a regularly been challenged for arent they?

Thanks for your words of encouragement Wheels and we will endeavour to keep things up and running strong. I believe that March 31st will be a testament to the stregnth of how we can stand alone and deliver

YEH Rex i was talking about the FELLAS Being able
to get hold OF WORLD Titles GUV:)K1 has there stuff happernig
on there side of the planet. But i say on this side of the planet
we need to get orged & have our own K1 Circut or something happerning.
Whether it be called A1.EXPLOSHIN.KINGS OF Oceania or wat ever.
K1 is MARK HUNT,RAY SEFO & For the H/Ws and J.W.P CHOPPER & For MAX.
Some one has to get something happernig for the Fighters of all
Weight Divs i say.?????????????Kiora REX.
YES i hope all goes Well for your (March 31st)Show and and your other shows this year Dixon.IT CAN BE DONE BRO BUT you will need some help
FROM Oceania i say GUV.All the best Dixon.Not trying to be a fat head or piss
anyone off with my Korero.Kiora

Well? I HOPE THINGS ARE COMING TOGETHER FOR YOUR SHOW
DIXON MACIVER

ttt

Any Updates?

Just keepin the thread alive & the interest up.

Hey Dixon...

Just a thought of curiosity.
Will the mystery man be Charlie Smiler? After his stunning show against Leamy Tato down in W'GTN last November, will he get another crack at the big time?

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Fight Editor

charlie smiler is in the 8 man boa!

Hey Rex...

LOL... forgot that he's got MckInnon.

Thanks Rexy

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Fight Editor

Any word on this fightnite?

Is it happening is the question.

Yea true that.Anyone no whats the haps with this show please.

It has been postponed, not sure when it's been moved back to though, won't be this month anyway.

Might be the 14th of April...?

Dixon could clarify this

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Fight Editor

Yea would like to know for sure if its on ,There are some good matchups here and i wanna know who this mystery fighter is.Maybe its "The Rock" Lol

yeah thats the date i have confirmed.

Yes it is April 14th. The reason for the delay is we have been finalising a new TV contract. Kings of Oceania 07 will now be screened Live on Sky Sports (all 4 hours with multiple replays and Mainstream TV delayed also. This is great news for us. I can now confirm that The mystery man is Alexi Ignashov.

Thats Awesome Dickson,Well done and keep up the good work.camt wait.

April 14th that is a shame. There is a big boxing show the same night with NZ top pro' boxer's. It was planned that way as kings of Oceania was originally today. Oh well thats how it goes I wish both promoters good luck!

great news dixon good to see sky getting behind it.

What do me and Rumble get for guessing Alexey correct?

Good stuff

which sky sport channel? please say 2 or 3 because our sky 1 is so damn patchy :/

It will be 2 0r 3 as the Rugby will be on 1

We have just done a deal with TXT Station where we will have real time voting on the coverage and at the venue which will incorporate prizes to the winners. Basically a graph will come up on screen which will provide a real time poll to tell you the percentage of the people vote on who will win. TXT Station are the same people who do UFC in the states. At the end of each show a lucky winner who has txt in will be drawn randomly to win the grand prize. Pass the word.

Cool - sounds like "the running man".

How about someone starting a pool for picking winners.

Ok these are my picks for the 8-Man tourny:

Leamy Tato Vs Eric Noosa = Leamy Points
Charlie Smiler Vs Felise Leniu = Charlie split points

Peter Sampson Vs Ben Edwards = Peter TKO leg kicks
Steve McKinnon Vs Jason Reti = Steve Points

Semi Finals -
Leamy Tato Vs Charlie Smiler = Leamy Split Points
Peter Sampson Vs Steve McKinnon = Peter KO high kick.

Finals -
Leamy Tato Vs Peter Sampson = Peter on Points.

Chur!! :)

How can Doug Viney possibly be fighting in this tournament when he's fighting on a K-1 show in Romania at that time? Plus isn't Alexy contracted to K-1 till December this year and isn't supposed to fight on other promoters events? Maybe he has an exemption or something for this show...

alexies contract ran out with k1 after his last fight i think.
who is doug fighting

As the shift in dates has made it possible for me to be in this I would like to make the tournament I think I would take it out and I would really like the prize money.
OSU!

Yes you are correct Jeff the Maori Doug has pulled out to fight in Romania and as I said earlier if it means that our guys are getting a shot to buoycott what we are doing down here then its good that they should take the oppertunity. Ignashov will be fighting and his opponent is to be confirmed shortly. Andrew has declined the challenge against Ignashov and wishes to fight in the Tournament in which will depend on others pulling out.

Yes I love 8 man tournaments and would rather do that,and 5 feel there is agood chance someone will pull out as someone always does and then I will be there ready to take it out,I cant wait its gonna be loads of fun.
Osu!!

Hey Jeff how is it that you are privy to Alexi's contractual obligations? maybe you are a spy of K-1's because those contracts are supposed to be confidential from what I know. I know that K-1 dont want this show to go ahead maybe that is the main reason why Dougie got a call up because they never gave a hoot about him in the past why now? It migh be best if I refrain from revealing his Alexi's opponent incase they try to intercept him lol

dixon, i think erik's surname is spelt Nosa.

If no one fights him at short notice, you know who to call

Che Bro

"ghost busters"

Go the Hillbilly,sorry your show was cancelled bro.Darn fighters kept pulling out I hear.Oh Well,My Source tells me you might be havin another one coming up soon.Good Luck to you from us here in Brissy.Its always good seeing you on the card,you have been a valuable contributor to NZ Combat sports over the years fighting in Boxing,Muay Thai,MMA,Truly a legend.Holla,Yep your right there hands up Eriks name is spelt and Nosa is originally from Dunedin NZ.

Hell i'll fight Alexi for FREE.
Just for the honour of saying i fought him & atleast when i get Ko'd i can also say that the only person to ever K'O me out of all my fights was Alexi Ignashov, an even bigger honour. I can live with that.
Im 91kgs, It's a fair match, What ya recon Dixon?

How are you gonna judge yourself

You wont need judges for that fight Dixon,
it'ill all be over as soon as Alexi catches me & that will all depend on how fast i get puffed out from running all around the Ring trying to stay away from him.
Hope everything is comming together for you Bro.

Update on the 8 man draw.
Ben Edwards had to withdraw due to other committments today therefore the draw has been re structured
Pool A
Leamy Tato v Eric Nosa
Andrew Peck v Charlie Smiler
Pool B
Peter Sampson v Felise Leniu
Steve McKinnon v Jason Reti

We will see Ben in the Anzacs event in Sydney in June

I am really looking forward to fighting in Sydney at the Anzac show that sounds like fun and Dixon is the main event still Peter Graham and Paul Solwinski?
Also I am stoked to be in the Tournament and Iam sure I will win it!
Osu!!

Wicked 8man happerning there.Gee i hope Graham v Slowinski
in Sydney does go down.Who ever wins this 8man will be on
his game this night.Go Felise
Top stuff getting SKY Dixon >>>>

thats a good 8 man. leamy is in amazing shape and really jumping out of his skin!He really cant wait to fight.

Hi Rexy whats Leamys fight record? Has he done a 8 man before if not I am sure he is jumping out of his skin to give one a go.

leamy is 7 fights 5 wins powerhouse.he hasnt fought in an 8 man before but it suits him to a t!

Cool! Dude have you done a 8 man before?

BTW last night I fought here in Nagoya Japan last night against undefeated Koiichi Pettas(26,6ft 2inch 100kg) from Nicholas Pettas Gym(Spirit Gym) in Tokyo he is sparring partner for Peter Graham and Nicholas Pettas etc. It was tough fight and he held on the whole way wich made me work hard to the end so no KO but seeing I have this Tournament soon I was actually happy about it. I won by decision 3-0 so I was happy about that also. I am in great shape for this show in April and I am really looking forward to winning at home in front of my friends,family and fans who always support me and come to see me fight.
Osu!!

BTW last night I fought here in Nagoya Japan against undefeated Koiichi Pettas(26,6ft 2inch 100kg) from Nicholas Pettas's Gym(Spirit Gym) in Tokyo he is sparring partner for Peter Graham and Nicholas Pettas etc. It was tough fight and he held on the whole way wich made me work hard to the end so no KO but seeing I have this Tournament soon I was actually happy about it. I won by decision 3-0 so I was happy about that also. I am in great shape for this show in April and I am really looking forward to winning at home in front of my friends,family and fans who always support me and come to see me fight.
Osu!!

Lots of thanks to my Sponsors Max Muscle Sports Nutrition,Mx Japan and Fairtex Pattaya Thailand for their support.
Osu!!

awesome stuff powerhouse you have made a great come back mate.keep up the good work.you and charlie should have a very good fight.
Rexy

Lol, Im no K-1 spy, but I heard from another promoter that Alexy was tied up till December with K-1 and even though they werent giving him fights, he couldnt fight elsewhere. Have no idea who Doug Viney will be fighting, but a reply to an email I sent to Raysefo.com kinda sounded like Ray was now managing Doug somewhat, and had got him a fight in Romania.

Thanks Rexy I know you have always been one of my supporters as you are always respectful and well spoken when we meet up at tournaments etc. Please don't worry about if I fight Lemmy cause whatever happens I will still consider you friend
Osu!!

Good to see you in the mix again Andrew. Can,t really comment because of my job but good luck to you and the rest of fighters on the night. I really think with this mix including the new comers it will be,i believe, a fantastic night of fights. Cant wait

definatly powerhouse same goes.

Welcome back the T- Man who has stepped up to take the fight with Ignashov.

Good Luck with your event Dixon.
I have only skimmed thru the posts but got the jist of it.
K1 were always going to screw you. And any other promoter that they dont need any more. There are no loyalties in K1 Japan. Its all about bums on seats and network ratings. They will shaft anyone. Shilt will be next cause hes not popular in Japan, cause hes ugly. Yes is true. And yes I do know cause I worked for K1 Japan.

Nice post there yes!

I have also been away from the net for a while but Dixon is just showing that he can take a knock on the chin from the biggest corp and still remain standing. I think that the freedom away form K1 will bring out the best.

I have to also say best of luck to all of the guys still in the kings of oceania mix. Keep it all alive cos what has been started is intence!

Good luck all.

CHER T-MAN All the best BRO
Yes it is great wat Dixon has started
Make K1 come down hea and look after the BOYS
Cher Paul Alex

Interesting point yes and I hear where your comming from in regards to Semmy infact they did it to him 3 years ago but of course as he is the 2 x champion now he has more power to bargain with. At the end of the day K-1 cannot sustain supporting all the fighters and without the smaller shows internationally they would not have a pool of fighters to choose from. The hit and miss ratio of someone being a contender from the smaller to the bigger shows is huge but there is an amazing pool of talent to choose from that just arent geeting a shot.

i hope if anything it encourages the local heavy weights to fight more on the local shows,not just the k1 shows,and stare away from the k1 rules,like elbows and clinching with heaps of knees,who holds nz titles in these sorts of weights?havnt we sort off gone away from that

Bubba, I hold WMC PRO Super Heavy NZ Title & WKBF PRO South Pacific Kickboxing Title. I love clinching & knees. I will fight for local titles like those for sure.
Osu!!

yeah these heavy weigh titles should be fought for more often.Nothing like a good old elbow fest

Problem with having Heavyweight & Super Heavyweight Title Fights is that there is not really any promoters out there willing to put up the purse needed to get the best fighters fighting for the Title.
Once a Heavyweight or Super Heavyweight shows potential they end up on the Pro Circuit getting Paid which does'nt really leave much of an Amatuer pool to chose from for Title Fights.

If you want to be successful in K1Japan, and command a good fee, K1 looks for the following: Entertaining, inside AND outside the ring. Can win by KO consistantly, and can be funny/cool/cute with the Japanese media. Also should be good looking and preferably white, although Bob was an exception to this rule. But he was successful cause he became the darling of the Japanese media. It didnt matter that he couldnt fight!!
You dont have to go through qualifiers to fight in K1 japan, as they will put you in the ring if you were going to be easy to sell to the Japanese Media.
They would put a soccer player in the ring if the networks liked the idea!

Your not wrong there Yes.
I bet the shirt of my back if Becham said he would like to fight K-1 He would go straight to the Final World GP at the Dome Straight away. No Questions asked.

Bob was an exception.... ernesto hoost. ray sefo. mark hunt. rem bojanski. carter williams. Dont you think that by knocking out ernesto hoost twice he couldnt fight? A bit of an embarrassing situation for ernesto to be laid out on the canvas by a guy who couldnt fight.

If bob cant fight and is an easy fighter to beat (because he cant fight) ,then a recipe for success would be to promote a fight here between Bob Sapp and say Jason or Andrew, our most experienced fighters.Even Peter sampson,our up and coming next best prospect.

You have said that you worked for k1 JAPAN. You seem to be very familiar with their requirements so just why is it that our boys dont stand a chance in japan? you already said what the pre requisites were but can you translate that into something that starts like this "the reason Andrew, Jason, Dougie etc etc etc are not what we are looking for here in japan,is because... Can you finish the rest?

Hi Norm,
the reasons you look for were explained in the first paragraph of my last post. Read again and apply their names.
Your other point. Ray and Mark are not considered black in Japan. Please excuse the bluntness of the terms black and white, but they are a reality in Japan. Bob became famous because he ate a raw steak in an interveiw, then the public couldnt get enough of him. Remy appealed because he was portrayed as a banker ho could fight a bit. The public ate this story up too. He also beat Bob at the height of his popularity. As for Ernesto, he kept on winning and couldnt be ignored. He lost to Bob because he got hit. Bob is not a good fighter, but he is a huge bastard, and if he manages to land one it will hurt. duh.
Highlander you are absolutely right. If Beckham showed up, it would be the biggest K1 Event ever with the best ratings. No Question.

Hey yes i like the way you write! Well im prepared to eat raw steaks and Im sure Andrew and Jason could eat several different kinds of raw steak. Now we got the qualifying tips over with,what do we got to do to get on the judges good side. what do we got to eat this time. We are ready for anything! We make fear factor look like playschool for old hippys.

good one norm
you just proved why you are not there.
maybe too much muscle upstairs.
thinking outside the square is what i was trying to illustrate to you. it aint a free ride even if you could eat a steak. go back to your playschool because K1 would eat you up and spit you out. It is not a rhealm for stupid gaijins who think Japan should run the way their country does.
If in fact you are serious, which i doubt, get yourself good management, and get noticed.
Sayonara

No, yes, i was kidding. I see your point.I have fought in japan.The only gimmik i had was being old and that just got totaly ignored! I did manage to stay awake for the whole five rounds but the crowd probably didnt! The only raw meat i have eaten was horsemeat in japan. Seemed to be a polite thing to do when offered it. What you are saying is that unless your marketable, being a good fighter is only a part of the bigger picture. A certain x-factor is an absolute must.You must be special and that means success. Do you think there is a way to go down a commercial path without just using fighters and discarding them when they are no longer any good for commercial purposes? or am i still missing the point?

I will make one observation i made while in japan.The way they,(the media,tv reporters,newspapers etc) treated a winner of a fight and the loser of a fight was so much strikingly different to anywhere else in the world i have ever been.Winners were seen as heroes,idols so to speak, and losers,whilst treated with dignity were only human and therefore not special. I loved that difference,even though i had lost it made my wins from that time on all the more special.Dave gahan and myself went to a bar and we never bought a drink! The customers that spoke english asked who we had fought and when we said who we had fought they were stunned and spent all night doing tequila,lemon and salt all night!

Was that when you fought for the Wka Title Norm?

You Sherlock holmes! You got me! what gave it away Scotty Thomson (without a pee). Was it the way i didnt change my basic writing style? Was it the mingling of humor,wit,and fact, or were you just waitng, lurking in the corridors of topical interest so to speak? I said that i would reveal my alias "1 eye" when i saw you in person, but alas, on this public forum it started and its where it will end.There is only one interaction in dialogue that i wish i could reverse( i hope!) Scotty,and thats the joke i made that offended you.I can not turn back the clock.I am not a coward.I honored my words.I said i am sorry.I will take my medicine like a man.

Hey Norm

There was a remarkably striking resemblance in the grammar and juxtaposition of words. So you were the Ol-1 eye. Wondering where the wors of wisdom from Yoda had dissapered. Yes mate, the media sure can build heroes in Japan- thats for sure. Its sort of like WWE at the moment, characters and action hero figures. What Local fighters lack is certainly not the skills or the tools of the trade (in the ring)- i suppose a bit more acting and vibrant showmanship. Both at the press conference and at the fight night. If you are 6"9 plus, without the personality gimmicks- you can get away with it. But i would only think it will last only for a while.K-1 Japan must be looking for the next Semy as we speak. There will always be another "giant" around the corner the public will want to see. A giant who can actually fight would be good, Semi is an exception in that regard.

YES you are so right and you have had me baffled trying to think of your identity but never the less you give an opinion of which many dont understand. This is sports entertainment which means you do require the complete package at the top. Every new fighter requires a story of some sort for the marketers that be to play on it. TV requires more than just a good fight it requires a point of interest.
Last years Grand Prix was a prime example of this with the new commers.
Ruslan Karaev explosive, entertaining, attractive, win or loose his fights appeal to TV yet they played on the poor Russian boy who they helped up.
Chalid De Feist same attributes as Ruslan and they played on his success as a businessman who didnt have to fight but wanted too, infact they almsot had more footage of him in his lamborghini and office than his previous fights in the build up.
Badr Hari as much as people dont like his arrogance ARROGANCE sells in the fight world and he does it well and sells himself well. His KO defeat and scuffle in the press conference has been used as his comeback. Like him or not the guys an entertainer and he can fight.
Glaube Feitosa the kyokushin connection
Interesting that you should mention the Black issues because it is true.

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Anyhow Ignashov fighting outside the K-1 and contracting with KO is interesting, maybe he will find someway-somehow to go all the way. Who knows, K-1 japan? And then theres Doug Viney in the fringe who might possibly find a way to feature in the K-1 someway-somehow. Its all very enticing. I'll have the rundown very shortly when ROGUE goes online.

P.S: Anyone seen Bugs Bunny around? or is he on holiday. And Norm any idea of coming back with some Exhibition fights or the odd boxing fight?

BOA @ ROGUEMAG.COM
Fight Editor

I thought i would get a severe beating from all you guys! I said some things that were heart felt concerns of mine. Dixon, you seem to have taken them for what they were intended for and that quality is a wee bit rare in this neck of the woods.Either that or i really am the only one who got what i meant! I commend you on your diplomacy and as my main points were all about your pioneering ability to run a buisness and balanced out with negative aspects,which actually are really easily corrected,but finding a buisnessman with a good nose for success is a dream come true for every fighter that ever dared to dream and now are household names in their own country!! Like i said strenghen the infrastructure and tend to the garden that you get your veges from. (That i read in the house and garden magazine)
BOA! yoda! gee i dont know whether to beat you with a stick or buy you a house! only one of those is a possability so... the house in in the mail buddy.
as for making a comeback...the thing i love about retiring is that its the only way you can have a comeback fight! I first retired back in 97-98. Ive had no fewer than 49 comeback fights! I never turned down a fight.Except with Scotty Thomson(without a pee). P.S (with a pee) keep making up words like juxtaposition and your magazine will never get off the ground buddy.

Hey Norm I have taken everything you have said and I dont have a comment to make about them I thank you for your words of encouragement as i gives one hope in their ultimate goal. As a businessman I want to make money and to be honest there are alot more things that I could do along with making more money and less headaches. There is bugger all money in this business unless you have alot of corporate sponsors behind but that takes time to build. I suppose the good thing is that we have retained the support of Television in which K-1 has lost. Not to our doing more to the networks annoyance of having the goalposts shifted. In saying that if we didnt build the brand here they would never have loked at it. I always said to K-1 heads that you cannot replicate the success of their model in Japan in other territories. TVNZ paid more money for K-1 products than Eurosport who service 52 countries (figure that out) in fact the money K-1 demands from TV in New Zealand is more than what NZ Tv networks pay for Wimbledon or event their Olympic coverage (figure that out)
Why because ratings sell across the board. K-1 rated on TVNZ and was consistent. Its just now they want more and TV had said no. Our new deal with SKY increases our value, why because its live. The more sponsorship we develop the more money fighters get as per their calibre. Not to mention that it allows us to invite higher quality fighters to our events, of course if they are not contracted to K-1.
K-1 are very good at using fighters for their benefit. So lets anaylise a few of them.
Jason Suttie History not for this forum yet they use him in the Australian and New Zealand Grand Prix's but never invited to other K-1 events. Their opinion not interested.
Andrew Peck Great introduction in 2000 baut fails to deliver in Oceania (no dis respect meant Andrew)Its very hard to turn K-1's heads around for a second look unless they are really interested in a specific individual from day 1
Remy is a prime example.
Doug Viney great 2001 and 2002 year but is unsuccessful in 2003. his opponent who defeated him twice in that year Gordan Jukic gets a shot in Japan who is then defeated by Mike McDonald and we never see him again.
Peter Graham Political difficulties surrounded him for years to get a call back but now he is there, prior to that we were the only ones giving him fights throughout 2004,2005,2006.
We even had a hard time getting Jordan back there from his inaugral appearance in 2004, but they key factor in return in Japan is his connection with Ray.
JWP rated probably the greatest fighter in his class from the Oceania region is also not liked by K-1 because they think he is not saleable enough. (figure that out)I have said it before K-1's match making to the dislike of many has another agenda and its about keeping the exsisting stars or developing new ones in the world of Sports Entertainment. Shit I could write a whole book of this stuff.
Look at the bigger picture

Norm
I would never concider you as a coward, A silly old Prick sometimes Maybe, A bit like me, But never a coward.
All has been Reversed & the clock has been turned back My Freind.

It sounds to me like the Dragons Den television show. The Dragons are experts who are experienced realists and have an eye open for Someone with something of a saleable,marketable buisness product.You see the ones that argue the point when the Dragons give their thoughts on the likely failure and shortcomings of an individuals buisness plan or product.We dont get to see the end results of the ones that are turned down,whether the Dragons were right or wrong.The Dragons are in the marketplace.It would be silly to bet against a Dragon 95% of the time.

Cheers Scotty thomson(without a pee). While your turning back the clock scotty can you fix a couple more things i did wrong. Do you do ex wives at all?

I can do ex wifes Norm. But it all depends on how good looking they are & wheather or not you want to just Watch or Join in, If you get my drift. lol

I understand what you mean by fails in Oceania Dixon but I did make finals in 2002 and semi finals every other time I entered. But I have fought in Japan in front of 20,000 people at a K1 one show and at the time I was greatfull for that experiance and perhaps if I was thrown into the meat grinder that is K1 back then perhaps I wouldn't have been able to handle some of the top fighters like I could now.
I have only been PRO 7 years and it takes time to get good enough to survive in there.
OSU!!
As for you Norm you didn't help my K1 quest much did you?(2003)

Now Now Andrew let it go bro lol maybe you can turn back the clock with Scotty and all have a merry old time

Hey Norm

Beating with a stick or Buying me a house, which ever way will take it with a smile. No juxtaposition in the mag, just the odd piss take and transparency. Having said that it was enjoyable reading the OL 1 eye and absorbing the wisdom, and watching those boxing fights of yours once upon a time. Also will check the mail sometime next month.

BOA @ ROGUEMAG.COM
Fight Editor

Sorry Dixon tough to move on with that one as I belive that the 2003 K1 Title was mine and so did a lot of other people watching if I remember rightly the booing didn't stop for 20mins a record for NZ kickboxing shows? haha. I belive that Norm you did that to put a beat up though galant and determined Hiriwa against a slightly fresher Rony Sefo to give your Gym mate and friend Rony a better chance at the Title and Money $15,000NZD cause you know I was on fire that night and I didnt have a scratch on me after those two fights and I probably would have ripped through the final as I was holding back with Clay and Hirwa a little so I could give it everything in the final. It was underhanded and dirty what you did and when you came to me that night saying how sorry you were for your mistake(which I belive was no mistake) you just made me feel sick to my stomach. Its cause of people like you that the right guys dont get the title's,money and other rewards they deserve.
Osu!!!

Hey Norm how are ya mate. I figured out that Ole 1 eye was you after a couple of days, I was gonna drop you in it then but you seemed to be enjoying yourself (I think they call it "venting").

You could make your next comeback in the K1! I'm sure, like your buddy the highlander, you've gained one or two pounds to make it to heavyweight, so all you need is the saleable gimmick that Dixon was talkin about and you're in. How about havin scotty as your trainer/manager dressed in a flash suit and you wearing a full face mask, speedos and a cape. Then when (oops i mean if) you lose, you and scotty can have a scrap about him and your ex wife. The crowd will love it! $$$$$ KA-CHING!!!

By the way, there IS such a word as "juxtaposition" but us mere mortals wouldn't know when, where or how to use it.

Good luck for the show dixon.

Paul Kingi has asked me to put on here that he is definitely not participating in the Kings Of Oceania event.

He is contracted to fight in Europe this year and has recently agreed to fight Bob Sapp in Melbourne in December.

Hey DZL

Good point mate, but if i put it like this...
Let us juxta-pose a flash card with a round number next to a hot ring girl, or the ROGUE ring girl of the month.

And yeah Norm could with a few more K's replace Paul Kingi if he has pulled out altogeather. Maybe? Yeah Scotty in a cream white suit and snake skin shoes in your corner. That would look awesome. Pimped out to the max, and ofcourse a deadly duo with all that experience.

On a more serious note Andrew you sound rather upset bro, being absolutely neutral: win the 8 man and I'm sure you'll feel much better. The current form suggests you as the clear favourite. So good luck bro, great turn around from last year and ROGUE has been your biggest critic (if you read the innaguaral issue) and now ROGUE picks you as the favourite. How the winds of change whistle, and whistle so quickly.

BOA @ ROGUEMAG.COM
Fight Editor

I would have known about the juxtaposition being a word if Scotty had of given my dictionary back!cheers DZL for your advice.Has scotty let the cat out of the bag? Damn.


Andrew. I was man enough to look you in the eye and have a conversation with you directly after that fight.I never apologised for making a mistake by stopping the fight,but rather apologise for not stopping it earlier,when i asked you three times to step forward.It was the first time i had ever looked a fighter in the eye when addressing him and thinking"this guys eyes are clear and he seems ok but so why dont he step forward" i figured you hadnt heard me,and still no response from you when i asked a second time.The third time i asked you to step forward you did,and i wondered what was up with you. I gave you the benefit of doubt and allowed you to continue. Then i saw in your manner that i may well have done the wrong thing by letting you continue,because though you threw some punches you were,from my position,struggling to throw off the effect of the knockdown. I was concerned, but kept an eye on you.When i saw you going to tackle Mr T and Mr T DELIVERED A KNEE STRIKE.Sure he hit the ground. he was on one leg and you were tackling him.I was not convinced under these circumstances that you were out of danger, and i stopped the fight.Since then i have seen you and you even said gidday. I have read stuff you have said and im sick to death of your whingeing and bleating on about this. I gave you the opportunity to speak one on one and we did. you said you understood that mistakes can be made and that it happens, I SAID TO YOU THAT THE ONLY MISTAKE I MADE WAS NOT CALLING THE FIGHT OFF EARLIER!!thats what happened.Now get over yourself

bring ya running shoes bro, you'll need them!

Anyways folks...

Hey Dixon, whats the word on Paul Kingi? has he pulled out altogeather, if so who can replace him?

Shed some light, have actually done a full blown story too. Shame if he has pulled out.

BOA @ ROGUEMAG.COM
Fight Editor

Paul said to say he told Dixon he wasn't going to do it from the beginning. The $ wasn't enough. I'm not sure how the communication broke down between Dixon and Paul, but Paul is definitely not fighting in Kings of Oceania.

Hey Gotcha I think you should ask Paul to ring me himself as this is news to me. The last I spoke to him he was in the Gold Coast(last week) and he wanted me to assist him prior to the fight as he is strapped. If he is out then thats fine but I think Reuben deserves an answer so that I can re schedule him.

It seems your information is true Gotcha. I just spoke to Paul and he has signed a contract with Tarik which is more lucrative for him and I wish him all the best. I was aware of him negotiating but he informed me that he could take this fight and then move on to Tariks. I expressed my dissapointment with him not informing me prior to the post which sucks but he said that he never told anyone to do this who to believe who knows? The end of it was that as this is the second time that he has done this it will be the last.

AND while you are busy talking rubbish Andrew, you were also responsable for creating a situation in the A.B.A Boxing gym just one-maybe two weeks out from that fight by telling me that we refs dont get paid enough by Dixon and that i should boycott the show and by doing so would be making a statement of support for Terry Hill.Terry had his problems with Dixon, largely due to monetary concerns.You appealed to me to pull out of reffing the event and said you would blacklist any replacement.You went on about your being worth more and how we were all being ripped off in some way.I did my best to avoid this talk.I had an unfortunate exchange between referees on the show that should never have happened,with no clear Head referee assigned to call the shots,Colin was thinking that with Albert there he wouldnt get a chance at reffing a final.Alberts first outing in a major event and I was put between a rock and a hard place deciding who would do what.I said said if Terry was here he would do it a certain way and Albert said he wasnt there now so lets decide our way.Not wanting to upset anyone i said Both the other Refs could do the final fights.Then i was juggled between judging fights and Reffing,the only ref expected to do this! getting used to viewing things from a judges perspective, and then Reffing, requires an altogether different frame of mind and focus.Running to take a piss was the only break i could take.I sacrificed all my career as a fighter and this is what i will be remembered for?? I havent said fuckall to anyone and have suffered ever since so dont tell me i was involved in a fix you fuckhead! you dishonor not only myself and my former club,but yourself more so.I dont need running shoes.i aint going anywhere.

was refering to the powerhouse needing his shoes dude,theres some heavy hitters in this 8man, cant wait!

Hey Dixon

Shame Paul pulled out and I am glad you are taking it very professionally.
Any ideas for replacements? How about big Pauli the tower from ETK?

Or maybe there is someone outside the zone, big-mean and talented. There's always someone wanting that shot for glory.

Talk about upset(s), we have two in the form of The Powerhouse and the Storm. Hope they can reconcile and sit down for a drink. We might have an interesting press conference, i have that Macbeth like feeling.

BOA @ ROGUEMAG.COM
Fight Editor

Sorry bubba,my bad. I still wont be running though.

All I can say is whatever! Cause what you said to me after the fight was I am sorry for my mistake nothing else and as for tackling someone are you kidding I was moving forward so I didn't get hit by his knee which resulted in him falling down were you picked him up of the ground and called him the winner with me standing there clear as day thinking what the hell is going on a fix.... maybe?
As for the not refing unless you were not getting paid enough etc I said to you as a friend if you are not happy dont do it otherwise why were you talking to me about it in the first place?? You were getting my opinion right? Its like anything if you dont like it dont do it and as I said to you at the time sometimes you have to make calls that some people will hate you for and is $200.00 worth it? I never imagined that the I would be the one that hates you when I said that to you, strange coincidence that huh?

Bubba,
running shoes what for??

Bloody hell dixon, are you selling tickets to the "peck/storm" showdown on the side, must be making you a good quid or two????

Was sorry you left fairly promptly at Ocean City last saturday Dixon, I was keen on having a face to face chat and perhaps a beer.

GO NORMY GO YOU GOOD THING!!!!!

Norm here is some advice on being a ref,when a fighter is clearly winning a fight give him the benefit of the doubt in that sort of situation.
Osu!!

Bloody hell dixon, are you selling tickets to the "peck/storm" showdown on the side, must be making you a good quid or two????

Was sorry you left fairly promptly at Ocean City last saturday Dixon, I was keen on having a face to face chat and perhaps a beer.

GO NORMY GO YOU GOOD THING!!!!!

Hey Boa... whats with the macbeth thingy? Not another juxtaposition on the horizon is it? lol Actually i just dont know about Macbeth to be honest.I swear im guna get on the juice and come and bust some heads,but im afraid it might make me angry,like the incredible hulk,and you wouldnt like me when im angry. Allthough the K1 are looking for such a person according to Dixon and YES. A star is born... a MONSTAR STORM. Do i have to have Scotty in my corner if he dresses like a pimp at a Gay parade? Well i guess its ok.. just no massaging- put that in the contract BOA. We finally got our shot at K1-JAPAN Scotty!! Semmy shiltz will have to change his name to Semi Tilts by the time were thru with him eh Scotty. I like to thank all my sponsors, firstly Waikato juices and potions,Doctor Chu for all the stitches that have held strong thru the use of 30kg fishingline,and of course you,my devoted longsuffering fans.with out your support i would have been on different drugs and for that i truly fight for you.Except for you bugs bunny-you pissed me off remember.Back in 87 i think...

YOU have selective memory recall turkey.obviously still affected after the fight and dont try to wriggle out of this you son of a bitch. I spoke to you after the fight and dont re arrange the way it went to suit your self asshole.Ive had enough of your fucking lies and as for saying something to me as a friend that is a bloody joke.You asked me how much i got paid and i said $200 allright but you said we were worth more,though that is my opinion, you said you would boycott or blacklist the replacement ref didnt you! If you recall you were in talks with Dixon about your so called worth or purse as it were.I didnt go on for all these years to anyone that would listen like you did, and you started this all over again. i am sick of your shit.How many web sites did you cry on Andrew. all of them that would listen without yawning.I dont fucken care anymore. I wish i had of let Mr T beat you senseless like he was in the process of doing when i stepped in to save your sorry ass.you even admitted that you were buying time by not stepping forward because you thought i had to say "'STEP FORWARD WITH YOUR HANDS UP" and because i only asked you to "step forward", you said i hadnt said the right words!! If i said do a cartwheel guess what Andrew?? I made a mistake not calling the fight off at the knockdown.It would have saved me a lot of grief.you say you were winning the fight? what round was it andrew? who had an eight count put on them? WHO WAS AHEAD AGAIN ANDREW? Its a rhetorical question. i cant quite recall whether Ron Sefo had even won his way into the finals by then.Had he? can you remember?I kinda hope he didnt because it would prove there was no collusion!I just got off the phone to terry hill and he says it was the right call.He also thinks it could have been stopped at the count.

"and as for tackling someone are you kidding I was moving forward so I didn't get hit by his knee which resulted in him falling down" every time you open your mouth you i hear the rattle of a glass jaw! thats the stupidest form of defence i ever heard an experienced fighter use. Its strange then that i heard the knee connect to your body and i thought"oh my god this fighter is in disneyland" because i thought you were just plain lucky you never took that knee to the head! At that time i dont think i could have lived with being responsable for a ring death.I hate to say it but im ok with that where youre concerned now. Well,im almost ok with it.Strange you should say your conversation with me in the gym came back to haunt you because i have thought that ever since YOU STARTED THAT CONVERSATION.you as a fighter can chat all you like to a ref but a ref has very narrow paths to walk when it comes to upcoming fights and fighters trying to strike up conversational banter.I Remember your boxing trainer was there at the time. so were a few very high profile fighters and im very sure they were aware of the chatter.

Hey Norm

This is too good to be true, its like wrestle mania. If this kind of a storm brews on an internet forum, imagine what kind of mayhem we can have in the ring. Mate, Juice or not we know you can crack heads open. Just like King Macbeth when he was in fit of anger (Nice Juxtaposition). On the hand thats all shakesperean and at times boring BS, so are we going to see the makings of a super-fight? Its very Macbeth like, very dramatic and yeah K-1 Japan would love this sort of stuff.
Scotty i must say will look pimped out in a cream white suit and snake-skin shoes. Not to mention Jesse James style Amber glasses, too cool.

and Powerhouse...

You are very upset obviously, and i suppose the best way to bury them demons is to win the 8-man. Hopefully you dont lose focus and hopefully-your training in Japan is going good, and i dont go wrong with my prediction of naming you the favourite. Supposedly you must be using this as motivation and going hard. Perhaps we could see a challenge issued? whichever way everyone knows how good you are and you have nothing to prove. It is indeed very McBeth like...

This looks like the edge the heavyweight scene needed, full on action from word to word and then blow to blow in the ring. "So foul and fair a day i have not seen..." (Quoted from MacBeth)

BOA @ ROGUEMAG.COM
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Shit im in BOA! We will go by my rules this time ok. Andrew must have his hands tied behind his back, and his legs shortened by King Macbeths sword that you speak of, by at least the length of rope he uses to hang himself with in that other play. you know the one i mean eh BOA. AND i shall referee this fight AND on a promotion that is all mine AND I shall be given sufficent time to let my "creative juices" make me grow and become rather buff.
AND dont make fun of the way my mate scotty dresses please BOA. (hes sensative remember)

hey norm, i miss you mate come back to the shows please. And could you make your posts a little shorter as i find it too much reading lol

why you rate andrew as favourite boa?

You guys have been two fine ambassadors for the sport in many ways ... and not sure how washing the dirty laundry in such strong terms is at all constructive.

Andrew your best answer is simply to win this event and show how much you have improved end of story ... you win this event after winning the inaugral event way back it will be a remarkable achievment from a fighter who has had his share of setbacks, and grown and learnt from them.

Norms been a stalwart both in and out if the ring, contributing and continuing to support the sport once his fight career finished. His intregrity should not be called into question.

I think one thing we forget is once these fights were shown on TV every aspect and frailty is exposed, and in those early days we all had lots to learn. Me included as an opinionated (and big mouthed) commentator ...

Andrew my gut feeling on the night was Norm shouldn't have let the fight continue after you were caught with the upper cut, but once he had given the benefit of the doubt, he probabely should have let it play out. But he was concerned that you weren't in the right condition to safely continue and made a call. Although you may not agree with it you there comes a point where you've just got to say bugger it and move on.

As a fighter you still have a huge amount you could offer this sport if and when you get it right ... people still talk about your first K-1, but now lets go about creating a bit of history with your second Oceania 8 man title and give us some impressive new memories to talk about ... do that and the loss against T man is ancient history.

I do long posts cos i know it makes you go crosseyed Aaron, and your really quite fuuny looking when your eyes start resembling a couple of raisins in a tumble dryer mate. Aaron, since this happened, i found myself a wee bit gun shy.Nervous. I do this job for the joy of it. When the joy left, $100 for reffing was no longer acceptable payment.When i saw promoters, whos main aim was to make money,i decided if their was no fun in it for me anymore then their had to be money.I Ref at places i have fun at.I have a three hundred dollar fee(plus gas)(and accomadation).I now enjoy my job AND can afford to have a night out with the boys and buy a few drinks as well.For fighters/promoters like you Aaron,if you dont have a good night in the ticket selling department, i wave all my fee,except for the expense of gas (and hookers.lol).I wish i had of been a great fighter like you Aaron.It must be so cool being respected after all your years of sacrifices.I am not finished with reffing and in fact this has made me a stronger and more capable referee.I have made some bad calls for sure,and im the first to admit to them, but an uneducated crowd who boos aint going to sway me.I am an old, broken down old veteran who served his country well,till the final bell sounded.One thing i learnt and one final word to the wise Aaron,dont, whatever you do ,mix Rum, Bourbon or Beer when your celebrating.Its just not worth it buddy!!

You're a stand up guy Normy, a true gentleman of the sport. For ANYONE to suggest that you colluded to anything is utter fucking rubbish!! As far as I, and others, are concerned, your honesty and honour are beyond reproach.

The sense of humour is also rather entertaining.

Ill fill you in on the missing answers Mike,can i call you mike? I finally get to say what i have said.Its not a solo,one sided event anymore.

Winning this 8man for Andrew wont make what happened in 03 go away, or justify his statements,or lead to the conclusion that,yep. he was robbed like he said,the poor bugger.Wheres my dummy.

What part of "concern for HIS safety" would that be to let it play out? The only thing or person this would have benefited would have been me! Only in this regard, would i have not had to put up with the constant drip of bullshit! But, standing teary eyed and apologetic at a graveside didnt seem a good idea at the time.So i belatedly stopped the fight.He messed with me by playing a game in the eight count that cost him and me ever since.

So what youre really saying Mike is that andrew lost,Technically when i stepped in and called it off,but morally at the time he decided not to obey my commands to walk forward after the first command was ignored.Or he definitely had lost by time i repeated the command a 2nd time and he was busy in his mind thinking i had to say the words the right way or he wasnt going to listen!.And well, i had never been in a position where someone who "seemed allright" and had "seemingly clear eyes" decided that he wasnt in the mood for listening until i got the words right! A record breaking third time of being pleaded with to step forward he did! You played another game which i didnt understand at the time eh Andrew! you stepped forward,slowly,dragging your feet and i remember thinking,what the fuck is this guy up to? seemingly clear and able to carry on,yet hmmm ok would be a shame to call off a fight between two able fighters,so i gave him the benefit.5 seconds after that decision i was regretting it and then i knew that I ,me,norm had got it wrong. He wasnt clear at all.My bad.Thinking went out the window and reaction took over.When he went to tackle.... you know the rest.

Thankyou mark, but are looking for a loan or want to borrow my lawn mower again? and your mum said you could borrow the clubsport,but only after you have thoroughly scrubbed your mouth out with soap. You said the F word,and ive warned you about that havent i son. Dont be late home ok. love,dad.

P.S i didnt get the part about the humor? your not smoking that stuff again are you son?

Shit Norm i go off the computer for a day & come back to find you've got yourself in all kinds if shit. You should'nt have come out the closit bro, I was'nt gonna tell anyone who you were.
Sorry bro but i can no longer be your pimp ringside not now that you have got yourself in such a mess. Iv'e got my reputation to think about.
Boa will be your new Pimp, He understands the seady side of life. lol

Hey Bubba

Andrews recent form suggests he's the favourite. There are a few other guys if not all of them who can go all the way in the 8-man. The difference is that he's got the experience (done it before) and the turn around of events, recent ring time and form all point to it. Plus training and fighting out of Japan makes a guge difference.

Peter Sampson is the dark horse, who has had a dream start- and he's a quiet, humble nice guy. Don't think he's been in 8-man before (correct me if i am wrong). Not to mention the others like Leamy Tato, Steve Mac and even the young Jason Retti.

The first online issue will have a preview of the 8-man so check it out- bout a couple of weeks to launch.

Plus Bubba there will be a hot ring girl or two (with all their clothes on), so no doubt you will be chuffed and so many other folks.

The Storm and Powerhouse show is in full steam, although personally its bygones be bygones- hopefully it dont develop into something like Fraizer and Ali even when these guys are well and truly ripe in age. Initially i thought it was a piss take, but boy are they serious!!! But i'm sure they will put it to rest and have that illusive drink togeather. Waikato or Saporo? A photo like that will be worth 1001 words.

BOA @ ROGUEMAG.COM
Fight Editor

Hey Scotty

Thanks for your thoughtfulness... LOL
True about the reputation, you have another S-1 to do.
Also as always i can take the flak. See you on the 14th?

BOA @ ROGUEMAG.COM
Fight Editor

Actually Scotty Thomson (without a pee)I said all along that i was going to say i was ol 1 eye, all the way along, but not untill i had spoken to you face to face.You made it clear in your posts that you had guessed so that made it possable to stand up and i did.And as for you,what sort of friend deserts a man who is in the right? Not that we were great buddies or anything, so dont flatter yourself.If i offend ANYONE without meaning to i cant help myself,i just have to put it right,if they will let me, and if it gets to a point that they dont accept my efforts to correct my error then i move on and they do whatever they see fit.You are a K1 Judge and cant be seen to be biased.Fair enough.Go play by yourself,you have bad breath anyway.I never started this shit,but i will not back down.Piss off Scotty.Your post marks you out for the man you really are on the inside. If you had a brain you would have used your 25 years in martial arts,and not even added to this topic.Wisdom.Discretion.Something a judge needs and you lack.

And dont you ever call me bro again.

Well Norm the clock has just been wound forward again.
Get off your high donkey for a second & take some prozac & settle down. Id didnt say you were in the wrong. Discretion as a judge is someting i have plenty of that is why i never talk about Reffing or judging matters, so think before you type insults Norm.
Your Right Norm...You aint no Bro...So i take that one Back.

My last Conversation with "Norm the insulting Storm Graham"

Hey BOA. You seem like a nice guy and nothing you have said has been,to me at least,insulting and your writing style suggests a good read is something your magazine offers.I am fully prepared to get to the bottom of this and shake hands when i have either an apology or at the very least a mutual and abiding commitment to end all of this now,regardless of viewpoint.If you read the original posts of Andrews you will find no sign of 'piss taking" in those accusations. I went and talked to him- right at the venue,and i said my piece then. I couldnt leave till i had faced him ,man to man. I thought it had ended there but it just never has ended.I am more than willing to lay the matter to rest,just not when im told to by idiots who think it strange that i should react to an outright allegation of corruption,collusion,match fixing or whatever term you prefer to use.Andrew was upset in that post,and my reaction is the result of years and years of just "letting it go". But when will i have my say? when will i have my day in court? Im having it now.I have jurors that will judge me by my words. Find fault and correct me be all means.Judge and Discern wisely.If you find fault in me,and correct me, then i will be wiser for the input. Therefore i seek wise council.Dont even bother trying Scotty.

Hey Norm

Mate to be honest- i try and be neutral as possible and i am. If something is good, i write good about it and if something is bad then i write how it is. Pretty simple. Sometimes i tend to take the mickey out and its in light hearted jest, nothing more. With all due respect to everyone, i consider everyone as a friend you dont have to explain anything on a public forum. If you do it will only show transparency, which is nice. In ROGUEs first issue Andrew was at the recieving end of scathing crticism. Wallah! now i name him the favourite. That has nothing to do with anything else other than the fact he's had a great comeback and turn around.

And Andrew: he is trying to be transparent with his thoughts. I can truly respect that. However it is the clash of two opinions and something you guys could sort out in private, i really hope you do. But i'm sure for all the avid readers and AX'ers encounters like this only add to the drama and entertainment. Thats the way it is. Both you and Andrew have nothing to prove and nor does Scotty- just my neutral opinion which will not be changed by whats written on an internet forum. Mate other than that i can only comment from the sideline and think of it as a blast from the past. Who knoes mate ROGUE may get that illusive drink and photo, now wouldnt that be wonderful!!!

Apart from my humour when i write and bad math (you know we all have learning difficulties, i can only add even numbers LOL) - absolute respect to anyone who gets in the ring!!!

BOA @ ROGUEMAG
Fight Editor

Well i just got told some wisdom and i stand corrected! I spelt Counsel wrong. How do you spell it BOA?

gee norm, your a chip off the old block aint ya?(dont bother answering that),need to get out of hamilton more often dude,or some sleep,either or!

Normy ...

I aint no wisdom man, just a writer.

Since you asked... dictionary.com suggests COUNSEL

BOA @ ROGUEMAG.COM
Fight Editor

i now understand why you used an alias name before,id be embarressed to put a name to some of your comments to,you seem more abt making enemys than friends

Can you help make me feel better by sending me a copy of the bad ass stuff you wrote about Andrew, BOA? Thats the only form of prozac that works instantly for me.lol. i will say a very casual,im not your friend still,yet grudgingly lighthearted "sorry about that" to Scotty Thompson(without a pee).I, at first, thought you were being wise and not getting involved in this topic.I forgot you were not that smart.At least now Andrew will be happy for you to judge him,knowing that you both hate me.Again.lol Go team America!!

No time right now to reply properly so I will do on monday but it was 2nd half of the 3rd round and I had won the first 2 with no damage after easily beating clay so I was looking at winning the tournament so with the knockdown it would have gone another round and I would have won though nothing is set in stone with heavy weight fighting. Your lack of wisdom in the sport really shines through when you said"and as for tackling someone are you kidding I was moving forward so I didn't get hit by his knee which resulted in him falling down" every time you open your mouth you i hear the rattle of a glass jaw! thats the stupidest form of defence i ever heard an experienced fighter use."
My Mauy Thai is strong yours is not! You want to learn more about grapling etc I think. You are old school in your thinking and dont really understand K1 and Mauy Thai and should never be Judging those kind of matches.
OSU!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Bubba, i used an alias because it drew out a conversation with certain individuals that wouldnt have happened using my own name. I never hid behind it for long.Maybe i am a bit in need of sleep bubba.This isnt about making friends for me or making enemies.I had a 14year ring career that i truly sacrificed blood sweat and tears for.I hitched to Auks from waignaro-140 odd kms three times a week for 6months and took two classes when i got there,then hitched back again,at night.I have fought more world champs than i care to remember.I lost 7kgs in 7days just so i could stand in for chopper chapman when he had a big fight in japan and he got injured. Heck i lost to him Twice! the first time only on points. The second i got dealt to and stopped for the first time in my career,and i had 4 days notice for that.I have friends everywhere.They know im not rude.They know i dont talk down to anyone much.Im not a bigshot and i care about what people think.people who really,truely know me know im not such a bad person to throw a fight for an ex clubmate,Andrew is also an ex clubmate from Balmoral, actually so was rony.Im old and tired and have so few years left in me. I would give my life to change so many things if that were possable.Can you try to understand what its like for me to have this happen like groundhog day every day?! I dont think i have anything left to say on this subject,ive said it all.

Norm
I was'nt getting involved in the topic you and Andrew are reminising about. Fuck that's old Shit...2003...Been, Gone & forgotten about by everyone. Remember i was one of the judges Norm, I was,nt for or against either you or Andrew on that outcome & im still not for or against either of you.
You were doing your job (reffing) Andrew was doing his job (fighting) & i was doing my job (judging) End of story.
All i said in my post (in humour) was i can no longer be your Ringside Pimp as Boa was suggesting i could be & you you come back with an insult about my Discretion & integraty as a Judge. Well Fuck you to Norm, You and Andrew can have your little cat fight for all i care.

Im outta this Circus...Pass me a chair, some popcorn & a large Coke so i can just sit back & watch this pathetic soap Opera.

fair enuf Andrew. You made your points and i made mine.One thing is clear.We disagree. You may be right for the first time when you say im old skool.Even that your Muay-Thai is stronger than mine.subjective opinion.Maybe even 100% spot on.But my rugby league is way ahead of yours buddy,and i know a tackle when i see one.there is a video of it remember.Lets see if the defensive technique you say was A Muay Thai based technique or a clumsy, rushed attempt to get in close and hold your opponent.One thing is true for me though Andrew,in 64 fights i stayed awake for every one,though i was rattled a few times,even stopped in the boxing ring, and that i wont deny.If it makes any difference to you my life has been affected by that fight,and a few more since then that haunt me sometimes.If you want me to suffer,believe me Andrew i have dude.Im going to ask you to put it behind you Andrew.Move forward.Forgive me even.For things ive said and things ive done.Maybe if we did sit down and talk and be open and humble we can see things through different eyes.Be the bigger man.Your twice my size after all! I will be trying to get on with things myself.If we stay going around the same old mountain then its a sad future for all of us concerned.

So we are even in the taking something out of context department.I took your post the wrong way. In the middle of a fight i was on edge Scotty Thompson(without a pee)For a moment i was the sensitive,thin skinned one.I guess ive adopted a kind of "seige mentality" over this whole bloody soap opera allright. The postman, the milkman and several joggers have all been carted off to the Hospital,and lord only knows where the cat landed,or if it landed. Do you think im being too defensive? Really?

Good on you Norm

See i told you Yoda was a good "justaposed" name.Mate i would love to give you a copy of the first issue, but darn they all sold out (3800 copies). Someone you may know, should have a copy so please feel free to ask around.

Oh well, like Helen Clarke said "We agreed to disagree!" to John Howard, its only a quote and no politics on the forum. Andrew and yourself can agree to disagree on this issue and so be it.

Scotty pass me some popcorn too when you get it, "light-hearted" popcorn please.Oh yeah dont drink too much coke, it could become addictive. See you on the 14th mate, love those amber tint glasses.

BOA @ ROGUEMAG.COM
Fight Editor

dad, sorry, mum didnt tell you, I traded the clubsport for a years worth of crystal-meth. But i made good coin on the re-sale.

And dad, sorry for nicking your bud, but i got a good price for that too, and i never smoked any of it either.... really i didnt.

Your humour norm..... who else will "show us the shuffle" mid bout??????

I dunno if you remember man, one dark night a long time ago outside the maccas on vic street that is no more, i had my hands full with a group of aussie lads, one had just been dispatched, and expecting a mobbing i turned to look for the next target, only to see you, standing there with big mac in one hand, coke in the other........ out comes the front kick into the mid-riff of a dude twice your weight and a foot taller. They bugger off, and around a mouthful of burger and a straw you commented "Well, it wasnt that hard was it?" And then meandered off........ THAT was pure class man. And funny as F$%K.

Dixon, good luck for the show, i hope it all goes awesome.

carefull norm,you starting to sound human now!

Yeah Bubba the color in the fizzy drinks does things to me. K1 kind of things.Trouble is while my memory gets clouded when im in the Monstar storm outfit,i wake up feeling drained and depleted of energy.Then i spend the next 3weeks wondering what you all got pissed off for! An old trainer once told me "Storm,if at first you dont succeed,try,try and try again.Then explode with anger! you will never get another chance to feel that good about getting something that heavy off your chest again otherwise" So yes Bubba I can only thank my trainer for the way i am today.Human.And ofcourse the fizzy drink guys who juice me up.

Markky marky marky. Whilst the shuffle is something i usually save for dead boring fights like yours son, i have in real life been extremely tempted to shadow sparr and the only thing that stops me is if i dont actually miss the head of the fighter im clowning with. I dont disagree with Andrew when it comes to my ability to concentrate when being put in a trance like state by,well pretty much only you my son.Dont take it too hard son but you do strikingly resemble one of the other possable "dads" and im not saying who,but his name has not got a pee in it either.
I vaguely remember the incident in town. It was the night before a fight and the guy was huge! like three midgets stacked on top of one another! I remember not wanting you to eat my dinner, so i fought with my hands and mouth full. I think it made me look bigger- even buff some would say eh son,er hmmhmm Mark.

what a bunch of ass this thread has turned into

Update on the 8 man draw.
Ben Edwards had to withdraw due to other committments today therefore the draw has been re structured
Pool A
Leamy Tato v Eric Nosa
Andrew Peck v Charlie Smiler
Pool B
Peter Sampson v Felise Leniu
Steve McKinnon v Jason Reti

We will see Ben in the Anzacs event in Sydney in June

Hi brothers

one of the boys was telling me their was a catfight on here...Lol..I didnt know it was about me though...Damn who cares... give it a break,end of story, that was along time ago now, besides I think I won..Good luck andrew for the 8 man brother, cheers norm for the ride home in your flash as car that night brother, and Peace to everyone.

Hi there Mr T. The only part you had to do with this particular battle was merely incidental in the greater scheme of things.You were only just "the other fighter" im afraid to say lol. The ride was my pleasure MrT.(i think the payoff was $25 short when i went to count it, but hey,what the heck, your my nephew right!)

Hey T'Man

Hows the prep for the fight going bro? Would we be seing T'Man Jnr. in the mainstream anythime soon? Hows things down there anyways...?
Look fwd to see you in a fortnight or so.

BOA @ ROGUEMAG.COM
Fight Editor

Make sure you come and pay your respects to the family, MrT.($25 OVER 46 months @ 50% =$1,150.OO) See you at the airport,and dont be late lol. Just having a bit of fun MrT. I hope you have a great fight and dont take any prisoners.Take care and all the best to one of the most likable fighters on the planet.

cheers norm and boa.. Im up abit late as Im just laxing out watching some scary dvds, but I better get to bed.. train early..hey norm, I thought we had a good resemblance of each other and now I know thanks to you for helping, your my uncle.. have a good night my brothers and uncle norm

thank you very much norm.. I respect you lots too my warrior brother..or is it now my warrior uncle..

uncle norm...hmmm. yeah, i like the sound of that actually!

Something that has been bugging me for a while now...

What do we think about a promotor who is embarking on a new venture ..and STILL does'nt seem to have paid some people from the last event.....is that fair play ?

If this has been attended to in the last couple of days ... but not as I hear it....I stand corrected

Thoughts on this !

Update on the 8 man draw.
Ben Edwards had to withdraw due to other committments today therefore the draw has been re structured
Pool A
Leamy Tato v Eric Nosa
Andrew Peck v Charlie Smiler
Pool B
Peter Sampson v Felise Leniu
Steve McKinnon v Jason Reti
Pool C
Tonga Benny v Dixon Mciver

Norm ,
I know I would never win..
but the fact remains all those guys who are EMPLOYED to help make things work ..should get their wages...
thats all there is to it

from wat i herd it was from an organisation not paying him or his fighters,maybe you barking up the wrong tree!

Hey tonga benny the only way to win a fight like the one you are starting is to be the one in the right.If you are, then i would humbly advise you to go through the appropriate channels and seek assistance to redress the matter this way.I myself think that by making an approach to the person/promoter concerned by phoning him tomorrow morning and getting the matter settled.If you have no joy,then a simple process involving either the employment tribunual or small claims court is in order.All the bestin resolving the matter speedily and amicably tonga benny. peace.

Bubba, I am on a branch on the correct tree....

..and yes Norm you are right,( but I guess you hear that now and then ),
about the road to redress and that will be taking place I would expect..these families can only wait so long huh !

..gotta go now and watch the 7's

sorry tonga benny i didnt mean to suggest that you had started this fight. Your obviuosly trying to have a past matter resolved.I tend to think of every thing in terms of fighting.I am sure Dixon has the integrety to resolve anything of this nature by sundown tomorrow.Lets see if im wrong...

actually tonga berry i think thats the first time ive come across somebody who lives in a tree with a barking dog yapping away at the base of it, whilst a jungle village prepares itself for a visit to town to pick up the wages from a nervous white guy! I think someone spiked your coffee because you just said i was right!! you will be signing treaties soon so you better snap out of it buddy lol

Hey Norm

Love your literary-juxtaposition (barking dogs and the base of the tree, nervous white men and the vllage) LOL

On a more serious note, DIXON could you pls shed some light on the reserve fighters pls? We could very well see a reserve fighter influence the outcome/s of the night. The site is almost ready and the preview for the KO show is looking nice, good story i believe. Cool pics to add too.

Oh yeah Norm, your good mate Andrew will have a feature in it too. Who knows mate with your literal ability, and all goes well- we could look at a guest write spot. Just maybe...

BOA @ ROGUEMAG.COM
Fight Editor

mAYbeeE U wekN? mAk MII A uffer I CARNT reE fuZE

tonga berry will you be the first in your village to buy my very first story that gets printed! after you got your pay ofcourse! heck-if you talk the family into buying a copy each you can just read one of there copies and save ten bucks! In my last post i did an english version of my old tongan trainer i had once. Can you read my tongan?

Normy....

Grudge battle super fight!!! Im just kidding mate, on an april fools trippin high. I would much rather see you as a critic. Having said that you seem to have heaps of time on the net. Good on you.

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Normy....

Grudge battle super fight!!! Im just kidding mate, on an april fools trippin high. I would much rather see you as a critic. Having said that you seem to have heaps of time on the net. Good on you.

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Hey BOA, can i write the article on Andrew please please pretty please!! I got some words i havent used that ive been just busting to use!! Im definitely the right man to give a thorough examination into the beast we call"The powerhouse".
Hey i will even say something nice about Andrew while im finding out who the f&*k this powerhouse attendant is.If this is a trick to lure me to your offices and tie me up so Andrew can beat me up after youve taken a "bloody" photo of us having that elusive beer that you talk about then i will bust out the moves on you and then the MONSTAR STORM will be born!!remember the "you wont like me when im angry" line that i just made up myself? dont forget it BOA buddy.

Norm

Your imagination is like Oscar Wildes!!! You speak great Tongan too.

Anyone got an update on the reserve fightes Please? Perhaps Dixon might have it wrapped up by tomorrow.

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The Hong Kong 7's were great and Samoa won.

Norm...not MY pay... nor My families...but anyway ..you write the words and maybe I could publish the book or, do your legals...don't like to see folkdone over..outside the ring that is

end of all this now huh !

ps: will let you know about sundown tomorrow..but suggest not holding the breath .

I agree enough is enough and I cant change the past I just thought you Norm should know my feelings on this. All the best to you with your future ventures what ever they will be. I have last 10 days of training to do so see you all in beautiful Auckland.

Osu!!

WOW. Well. What can i say.Its the same way i feel Andrew.I was also just wanting you to know how i thought. I think when i saw you directly after that imfamous fight, you were trying to be gracious and respectfull to me. I appreciate the fact that you were in control of yourself. Though we were not great mates or anything Andrew,I went up to you, so that if you felt the way you say you do, you could just let it all hang out.It would have been easier to deal with, if you had of just taken me outside and beaten the living daylights out of me. Is it really all over Andrew? I hope so. I make a public offer to meet with you and discuss it in private.I will come unarmed.(Was it you or BOA that gave that big bastard, King Macbeth,(without a pee) my address?( was his sword a claymore?).You really are a sincere sounding and humble person when you switch personalities.Im thinking of cancelling the "MONSTAR STORM" costume and retiring my very own self made motto- "dont make me angry - you wouldnt like me when im angry".(I tend to say it slowly and with a deep voice for maximum effect) As for my future ventures Andrew if you really do care about me, can you come down to H TOWN and make this old bum that steals my parkbench and drinks my last drop of meths when im go roaming and looking for butts? H

And BOA i never claimed i could speak tongan buddy! I only said i have a knack for writing tongan, though i do appreciate your efforts to help rebuild my shattered life and frail ego.For that i will accept your offer to attend the press conference and interview My new buddy ok.No pictures though.

Hey Normy

Yeah you write good tongan. I never knew i could offer people to attend press conferences. Anyhow its nice to see the truce and understanding between Powerhouse and you. Andrew is professional enough to understand and move on. Also why dont you post me a copy of a book you wrote in Tongan. I can get one of my Tongan mates to translate it for me. I bet it will be a good read.

RESERVE FIGHTS announced yet?

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LOL. Its just not like me to hijack someone elses thread so im thinking of handing it back over because im really quite interested in the real fights about to happen in the ring. I heard a steve feilds? mentioned and hes from Aussie.Is he in yet? Any idea who will win? my money is on Peter Sampson Vs ??? and what do you think mate? Dont really know much about the new names from NZ or OZ, so thats always going to take away the absolute certainty and with that comes a sense of anticipation. If these guys dont deliver then its a guaranteed nail in the coffin.But the newness of these guys may well see a pace of fight that freshfaced,keen and raring to go fighters bring to the table.The draw so far is a we bit too well thought out, and i would love to see a situation where on the fite night a fighter is assigned a number, then all numbers are pulled out of a hat and that will guarantee a promoters ability to pre destinate an outcome is placed in the hands of the gods and not in his ability to see to it that any fighter in particular is favored with an obvious and easy path to the final.This process protects both the fighters and the promoter from allegations of match fixing and deliberately creating a easy pool and hard pool scenario.Not that this is the case,but that it removes all doubt for everyone concerned.I know the answer to this one from a promoters point of view.'" and the two best fighters could meet in the first round" and fuck my show up. If we get to see two favorites go at it while both are fresh and uninjured,its still your show? we may see the best fight of the night is the very first fight. Luck of the Draw i say.

Hey Tonga Benny if you are you referring to fighters or business creditors because I recall some time ago asking you to submit which fighters hadnt been paid?

Hey Dixon, Like Mike,sorry, Mr. Angrove said,'im not sure what washing your dirty laundry in public is going to acheive". ask bubba gump what tonga berry is meaning,then all of us can share the popcorn and have a good laugh. Im running out of good material to work with!

Hey Normy

Dont worry about running out of material nate, wait till ROGUE is online on the 10th and i'm sure you'll have heaps of material, especially about this show. I am glad you have a MoU with your mate or vice versa, probably just in time as most of the viewers popcorn was running out.

Whats Hamz like these days? might be out and about later this month to do a gym review where Mr Sampson trains.

Oh yeah DIXON... Mate any word on the Reserve fight/ers please?

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There isnt any reserve matches BOA. And although the event will be under the rules of K-1 in the event of a fighter not being able to continue we will firstly seek the individuals who were not able to qualify in the first round. In the worse case scenario the first 4 fights end by way of KO and that stuffs me up when it comes to the semi finalist not being able to participate. In saying that it makes great TV and spectators entertainment doesnt it.
Norm to answer your question I do like the idea of a draw like the way you mentioned in fact I think the Tokyo Dome draw is the most exciting way. But until you have an 8 man that is consistent in every way its hard to do so in my opinion the way we have it is either the new guys cause an upst and become new heroes or the favorite go on to become favorites. If its done the other way you will start getting the comments like he is not a true Champion because all the best fighters were in the other pool and bashed the hell out of each other. Actually even in the Grand Prix it has been mentioned in the past about some of the past champions.

Yeah Dixon, i do see many deleamours that every scenario offers.The main component under the way it is at present lies in the basic princaple that exists.That princaple supposes a favored fighter who is ranked number one,and then rated in order of who is the next best 2 , 3 ,4. So the top four are found, and we call them POOL A... POOL B are ranked, and then assigned to their ranking in pool B. then matchups can be found by order,pool A number 1 v pool B number 1. The idea that the winner on the night is the best fighter, period ,is erronous.The results are subject to so many variables that you could fill a book and still be missing something. I agree in princaple to your supposition that Andrew, Peter, and Steve are the top 3. How do you go about finding the other fighters rankings?.Do you take the same approach as the main sanctioning bodies do, and decide the order that way, or just choose randomly to suit yourself.If you pick the top 4 accurately, isnt it even more crucial to our fighters that the number 1 ranked fighter of the tourament doesnt have an easy journey by fighting the lowest ranked fighter in the squad. Can you share your method,not that you have to, but its helpful to maintain transparency. Gee BOA I got to use that word you taught me!

"How do you go about finding the other fighters rankings?.Do you take the same approach as the main sanctioning bodies do, and decide the order that way, or just choose randomly to suit yourself"

By the last bit,"or just choose randomly to suit yourself" i dont mean anything offensive by it. Tossing a coin maybe the process for all i know! could even yeild a more accurate result as to who is rated where. Not exactly scientific but...how do you go about deciding?

Most of the times Norm I try to rank fighters from 1-8 and pair it off from there example 1v8, 2v7, 3v6, 4v5 in theory this should work. Then you find situations about match ups wether 2 fighters styles compliment each other or make a great match. Then you have to take i account which happens so often here fighters out of the same gym. Generally speaking they dont mind so much when they have to meet in the final but during the elimination process makes it hard. You will find that most other sports like the 7's for an example NZ and Fiji never meet before the Semi's. There is alot of factors that come into play.

Ok this is on my mind. Where is Daniel Tai? is he on holiday? Where is he when he stands the best chance he ever had of making it to the finals? Come on Daniel!!where are you mate!

Dixon,
No ,I wasn't referring to Fighters,
but you must be aware of any, what you may call 2nd tier fellows employed to keep things smoothly running, that have yet to be paid.
Now ,if I am wrong about this... and it has been sorted since last week ..
I shall most certainly stand corrected..
now this is the end of it...
If its not done -just do it !

Dixon,
No ,I wasn't referring to Fighters,
but you must be aware of any, what you may call 2nd tier fellows employed to keep things smoothly running, that have yet to be paid.
Now ,if I am wrong about this... and it has been sorted since last week ..
I shall most certainly stand corrected..
now this is the end of it...
If its not done -just do it !

Sorry, don't know why that came up twice..

Well thanks for your answer,Dixon. As firstly a supporter of fights being put on,i for one look forward to these shows.I dont worry toooo much about the politics lol

YOUR FIGHT CARD AS IT IS SO FAR. A LEVEL PLAYING FEILD-your rankings stil
ANDREW PECK 1 CHARLIE SMILER 8 ANDREW PECK 1 ERIC NOSA 5
PETER SAMPSON 2 FELISE LENIU 7 PETER SAMPSON 2 JASON RETI 6
STEVE McKINNON 3 JASON RETI 6 STECE MCKINNON 3 FELISE LENIU 7
LEAMY TATO 4 ERIC NOSA 5 LEAMY TATO 4 CHARLIE SMILER 8


moving right along...Lets suppose there are no surprises and the top four really are on form and win their fights.

ANDREW PECK 1 LEAMY TATO 4 ANDREW PECK 1 STEVE MCKINNON 3
PETER SAMPSON 2 STEVE MCK 3 PETER SAMPSON 2 LEAMY TATO 4
once again assuming no surprises..
THE FINAL.
ANDREW PECK 1 PETER SAMPSON 2 ANDREW PECK 1 PETER SAMPSON 2

Wouldnt it be an easy ride for only the number one to the final,and hes supposed to be the best fighter and yet is put in cotton wool under your current method.I would say the same NO MATTER who the favorite or number 1 fighter was!!

Well thanks for your answer,Dixon. As firstly a supporter of fights being put on,i for one look forward to these shows.I dont worry toooo much about the politics lol

YOUR FIGHT CARD AS IT IS SO FAR. A LEVEL PLAYING FEILD-your rankings stil
ANDREW PECK 1 CHARLIE SMILER 8 ANDREW PECK 1 ERIC NOSA 5
PETER SAMPSON 2 FELISE LENIU 7 PETER SAMPSON 2 JASON RETI 6
STEVE McKINNON 3 JASON RETI 6 STECE MCKINNON 3 FELISE LENIU 7
LEAMY TATO 4 ERIC NOSA 5 LEAMY TATO 4 CHARLIE SMILER 8


moving right along...Lets suppose there are no surprises and the top four really are on form and win their fights.

ANDREW PECK 1 LEAMY TATO 4 ANDREW PECK 1 STEVE MCKINNON 3
PETER SAMPSON 2 STEVE MCK 3 PETER SAMPSON 2 LEAMY TATO 4
once again assuming no surprises..
THE FINAL.
ANDREW PECK 1 PETER SAMPSON 2 ANDREW PECK 1 PETER SAMPSON 2

Wouldnt it be an easy ride for only the number one to the final,and hes supposed to be the best fighter and yet is put in cotton wool under your current method.I would say the same NO MATTER who the favorite or number 1 fighter was!!

SORRY ABOUT THAT.dont know how the names that wer two different list side by side,but with a gap between them got the gap closed up somehow in the sending of it! fark i hate it it when that happens!

This may gear up a few as here is how I would rank it purely my thoughts and it has no reflection of how the draw is now.
1 Peter Sampson
2 Andrew Peck
3 Leamy Tato
4 Steve McKinnon
5 Felise Leniu
6 Eric Nosa
7 Charlie Smiler
8 Jason Reti

Diplomacy in draw has Andrew Peck and Jason Reti from ETK
Steve McKinnon and Eric Nosa from Bulldog
Then you have pull outs which changes everything again an example was Ben Edwards pulling out which meant Andrew Peck meating Peter Sampson in the first round and also Andrew being in the same pool as Jason Reti.
K-1 match make their tournaments except for the Grand Prix, you also potentially face one of the 2 top seeded fighters not going through to the next round they are also both big leg kickers which means you potentially face the victor not being able to proceed. Why do you think K-1 matched Peter Graham against Badr Hari because they new that if he won which he did he would be battered for the next round and I cant ever recall Peter Graham going down to leg kicks. The way that I look at it is if a new fighter has a chance in which I will give any new commer the chance to shine he needs to do it against top opponents not ones the same level. What you must remember Norm is that we are not just entertaining the purists we are entertaining the nation.
Leamy vs Eric, Leamy has taken the country by storm with his last 2 outings but who is Eric Nosa the the general NZ public we will soon find out. Same applies to Andrew and Charlie, Jason and Steve and Felise and Peter is the classic Puncher v Kicker. 3 new commers have a chance to make a name for them selves wether they win the tournament or not. Their populrity depends on the first round. Every single one of the new guys would be over the moon if they could notch up a victory over their opponent who is rated higher.

YOUR FIGHT CARD AS IT IS SO FAR.
FIRST ROUND
ANDREW PECK 1 v CHARLIE SMILER 8
PETER SAMPSON 2 v FELISE LENIU 7
STEVE McKINNON 3 v JASON RETI 6
v LEAMY TATO 4 ERIC NOSA 5

moving right along...Lets suppose there are no surprises and the top four really are on form and win their fights.
SEMI FINALS
ANDREW PECK 1 V LEAMY TATO 4
PETER SAMPSON 2 V STEVE MCK 3
once again assuming no surprises..
THE FINAL.
ANDREW PECK 1 V PETER SAMPSON 2
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A LEVEL PLAYING FEILD STILL USING YOUR RANKINGS BUT A FAIRER method.
ANDREW PECK 1 v ERIC NOSA 5
PETER SAMPSON 2 v JASON RETI 6
STEVE McKINNON 3 v FELISE LENIU 7
LEAMY TATO 4 v CHARLIE SMILER 8

moving right along...Lets suppose there are no surprises and the top four really are on form and win their fights.
ANDREW PECK 1 V STEVE McKINNON 3
PETER SAMPSON 2 V LEAMY TATO 4
once again assuming no surprises..
THE FINAL.
ANDREW PECK 1 V PETER SAMPSON 2

There is no worries with clubmates fighting, or anything else making this fight cards line up being seen as favoring one fighters journey to the final.Remember its about equity and transparency,and all with no harm done that may affect the TV entertainment dollars form a promoters point of view.The only fighter this affects is the otherwise ranked favorite,and that just ensures it isnt a staged or carefully crafted storyline which has no regard for the other fighters.not that i think that is the case,but we must be seen to be transparent in times like these dont we Dixon.Just because its for the fighters first and foremost still,isnt it dude. Im on your side concerning this,and i salute you!

I got to tell you Dixon its nice of you to talk to me. you could just ignore me but i think you know i dont have much of an agenda other than from the stated reasons.Im not that clever.UNFORTUNATELY!.What do you think of my fight card dude.took me ages to think this one up and post it successfully!

Hey Norm

Got to admit mate, we seem to think along the same lines with rankings.
Its scary!!! Although i think there would be debate on where Retti would fit in, solely because he's new on the scene. All i recall of him is the vicious KO win on last years undercard fight via a spinning back fist. Very interesting that we both pick Andrew as favourite and top seed. Hopefully he goes all the way, eh?

Very interesting norm. Good on you mate.

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Interesting theory Norm and I can see how there could be a question mark as to who holds number 1 but I also would have Leamy above Steve as Leamy won in their outing last year and I would have Jason Reti at 8 with Charlie at 7. As Eric is fairly new to the mix I would have Felise at 5?

I wouldnt like to pick a winner between Andrew and Peter Sampson, the reason I had Peter at 1 simply because he finished top of his pool last year and to have victories over Ben Edwards, Jason Suttie and Reuben De Jong warrents that spot.

a long time reader of this forum but haven't posted that much... wud like to know where i can buy previous Kings of Oceania shows on DVDs?

I personally wouldnt rate Andrew number 1. Pimping his ride(or body) doesnt stregthen the jaw.I figured you had him at 1. (I thought Charlie Smiler was 8.) So thats why i assumed you meant Andrew was number 1. Andrew has strong kicks and has loads of experience.He can punch a little too.Hes a nice guy,and very humble when hes losing an arguement.A real nice guy. My previuos posts re rankings were based on an incorrect assumption. My bad. If asked who i think is the favorite to win i would say unquestionably and without hesitation,the winner on the night will be.........Dixon. ....... and of the real guys putting it all on the line,from the mewcomers who are have just learnt to walk, to the experienced mountain goats, i will say what my best mate told me a couple of days ago."keep up the good fight,and give em hell!" Every single one has at least one weakness and at least one strength.The battlelines have been drawn. Your fate is in the depth of the well that you draw your courage from.I wish you all a safe night in the office.

And the drama continues.
Mckinnon out due to double booking in Sydney. As Paul Kingi has also bowed out Reuben De Jong will participate in the tournament in place of Steve McKinnon

Well!! You try to build a castle and the tradesmen forget their prior obligations! "DOUBLE BOOKING" my ass!!(buisnessmen call it agressive, committed competition,But promoters call it a double booking,for convenience, but only in Australia of course). But is that bad for fighters? or just buisnessmen? Never mind, we are rewarded with the thought that our guy is on our side and when this show goes on air, at least the purists will be very understanding.Because only we purists understand the deleamour that is the fight game, we wont care as much as the general public that the only real talent left in the pool is Andrew and Peter. The only saleable, marketable fight is.....Tonga berry v Dixon....my money is on the morningside for life fan! BUT... moving right along... I thank you Dixon for taking one for the team.SO the new guys that are taking the country by storm will save the day.Your way, at first glance puzzled me Dixon,giving raw guys the "opportunity" to fight against older, more experienced prizefighters,but boy you really are out there on your own ,in a league of your own eh, so to speak. a true pioneer.Maybe the right approach might be to just match Andrew and Peter in a superfight and then the relative novices in an 8man as planned.Your best option i think.

No way Normy I want to do a 8 man(3 fights one night) to set me up for the rest of the year and the prize money also I lost no argument with you I just said enough is enough cause I said my bit so please know when to give it a rest and only reason your picking Peter as favourite is because you are a cow bell ringing mulu from some were beyond the bombays lol and I am from beautiful Auckland thus I always fight in Blue and White when I fight in NZ.
OSU!!
BTW Ole one eye suits you to a tee

Also Normy a glass jaw is a old wives tale in the Heavywieghts if you get hit hard in the head you will probably go down but you would not understand this as weren't you like a featherweight haha and as such you took countless blows to the head wich now makes you a little different to the average man LOL. My rides are bad ass yes I know!

Right Andrew. So your message to the boys you are going to fight is to just hit
you in the head hard.I think they can work that into their fight plan somewhere along the line.lol. Im picking Peter as the favorite because he is big, has a broad range of kicking skills. and he can punch like hell,and his chin hasnt let him down yet.His rise is not sudden,but he continues along a steady and progressive path.You i rank number two,simply because this show has no other experienced fighters.You won the inaugural 2000 8 man.You won a fight recently.Yeah i could see you being rated number one using this reasoning.My comments about your glass jaw and about you losing the arguement about me throwing a fight to help a former clubmate win the event has nothing to do with my rating Peter number 1. Im not sure what my worst nightmare might be regarding you. IF you should win, i hate to think how long it will take you to start slagging off at me again and charging me with all manner of railing accusations. IF you lose then i wonder how long it will take to look back to 2003 and find comfort in a lie you told yourself,and chose to beleive all this time instead of facing the one truth that is the reason you lost.you got hit.you got hit good.you stayed hit. Mr T said you were falling forward so he threw a knee.I saw it as a clumsy attempt to tackle.You say you saw a knee strike coming and the stupidest thing i ever heard out of a fighter yet was you saying it was a Muay Thai based method of defense.You wernt in range of a knee untill you fell into a tackle type of whatever they call it in Thailand. You say i dont know when to stop. Your fucken wrong! When smokes still around, the fire aint far off.This is my bucket of water! a BUCKET OF TRUTH.

What the two fighters saw.
By Matthew Henderson (February 06, 2004) NZ K1: The aftermath. Complete transcript can be viewed by clicking the ax NEWS topic/menu bar at the top of the home page.

Mr. Ts account of the event … Notice the sequence of events that Mr. T says lead to him throwing a knee, and that Andrews statement says his tackle/grappling was the Muay Thai Based defense against an already loaded knee strike. Mr. T states that he threw a knee ONLY because Andrew had placed himself in position by moving/falling forward that merely invited that form of attack.

�I think Norm made the right call but at the wrong time. When I hit Andrew with the BIG KABOSH with my right hand Andrews’s eyes rolled back which is why I went after him with another right then he dropped and I banged him with 2 uppercuts and a left. Andrew was in cuckoo land with the fairies. When I went back to my corner while Andrew was getting his suppose to be 8 counts I was wondering what was taking so long. It wasn’t until I watched the fights on TV2 that I saw what had happened. I knew Andrew was still stunned and when we restarted and I went after him with some more KABOSH because his eyes were letting me know that he was still in cuckoo land with the fairies and the butterflies (laughs), till Norm broke us up again. Then when we went at it the 3rd time I went into overdrive with some more Tee man specials and he was coming forward or starting to fall and I threw a left knee at his head but then fell over when he leaned on me.

Andrew Pecks Account of the events leading up to the stoppage, from the end of the count till the final stoppage by the Ref. Notice Andrews’s sequence of events that culminates in the Tackle/grapple that he says is a Muay Thai Based Defense to a supposed anticipated/incoming knee strike that he says was the cause of his need to “move forward” and which Mr. T refers to as falling forward thus inviting a knee strike to the head

“ the fight was unfairly stopped. We put a lot of work into these tournaments and to be stopped like that, okay, if I got my arse knocked out that would be fair enough, and if I had my legs smashed to pieces fair enough. I feel that it was really, really unfair. I’ve watched Norm calling me out of the corner maybe three times , and then when he finally says step forward with your hands up, I do like he requests its not my fault the referee was making the wrong call. I’ve never heard of asking someone to come forward with their hands down. The referee has to ask you to step forward with your hands up, to show that you can protect yourself by keeping your hands up and when the referee remembered the call I stepped forward.”

“I also looked at that referee and nodded at him before he asked me to step forward, so I wasn’t all over the place. Anyone can watch the videotape and see that. I wasn’t the beneficiary of a long count because he started asking me to step forward. At 6, which allows me 4 seconds”…

Andrews’s entire account of things; from after the count till game over.

I landed a leg kick and a good solid jab straight after the fight had been carried on. Then he fell over, not me, which means his legs are either sore or his stamina is gone.
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On this very same thread just a few days ago, Andrew filled in the missing bits.
“
and as for tackling someone are you kidding I was moving forward so I didn't get hit by his knee ,which resulted in him falling down, where you picked him up of the ground and called him the winner, with me standing there clear as day thinking what the hell is going on a fix.... maybe?

Mr. T THREW A KNEE BECAUSE YOU LOWERED YOUR BODY AND MOVED/FELL FORWARD AND I SAW IT AS A TACKLE. A knee was a response to your actions not your actions a response to a knee.
The supposed to be eight counts was extremely long. K1s insistence on a ref calling “DOWN” and then the announcer calling out the count on a microphone is not something any of us here in NZ do, because I forget the new way of doing it but the end result mostly ends up well, except in your case. I said that I thought you were playing a game with me and I find out through the words in your interview that you indeed were playing games. A fighter who thinks the ref has to say the right words is a fool of a fighter. I don’t look at whether your hands are up; I look at how your balance is. That is more accurate in more opinion, of whether or not you can defend yourself. I didn’t say put your hands up even the third time did I Andrew? I do recall Pleading with you saying ‘STEP FORWARD MAN!!! Your mind game won you that part of the game. It served only to confuse me. You nodded your head and yet ignored me. I didn’t think you were that stupid, it appears I was bloody wrong about that by just looking at your statements.

Every time you bring it up i will too.THAT includes websites you have no idea i monitor.If you agree to shutup i will too.

Folks...

Hopefully the easter bunny comes along and eases things before the show itself, talking about bunnies- where is the Bugs. Has been banned off the site altogeather?

Anyhow the Stom Vs Powerhouse Verbal sparring is getting to a all time high. Hopefully its nothing more than that. After all its only a public forum. Its amazing the power of the internet, for some its a court of law, for some its a labour tribunal disputes board where complaints of non payment of second tier employees are aired. Wow..ee!!!

One things for sure, at this rate Good Friday or not- come friday the 13th it will be a very lead up to the show. Who will be Macbect and Who will be McDuff? we wish all of the cast- all the very best, especially the two lead characters. Four years in the making, clashing like verbal spartans. There can only be one!!! or could there be two?

On a more non-shakespearean note, Retti Vs De Jong. Talk about a baptism of fire. Its sink or swim for the youngster.

BOA @ ROGUEMAG.COM
Fight Editor

For the record most of these things which are aired thread specific or not, are only alleged or opinionised as per individual. Whether they are true or not remains to be seen and rather vague factually.

Bloody hell, lets just look forward to the show and ofcourse all other side shows add to the drama.

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Fight Editor

Norm I am finished with this your long threads are like watching paint dry. I will be home soon and if you are visiting my home town to see this tournament come and talk to me man to man.These good people here have had enough so please stop.
Getting back to the tournament stuff, I am coming to win and if I win great and if I don't it's fine as I was not even supose to be in this line up but I am really happy to be able to fight at home cause of the date change.
Osu!!

I did talk to you, man to man, once before.While the paint was still wet.Yep, i think you are right for the second time, when you say my post was long.But you still havent retracted your claim of match fixing.What makes you think Dixon didnt top my pay up to spice up the night and get value for his money for having to pay you more,after your price negotiations you told me you were having just weeks prior to the fight? I guess his honesty and reputation are beyond reproach. So youre tiring of this subject are you? You havent fought any 12 round fights have you Andrew? Your strictly a five round guy, who hasnt been involved in a distance fight.Your tired and im the one whos got you on the ropes, and you ask me to stop beating you up because the crowd is getting bored? Tap out i say, because i will never accept a draw with someone who has caused me so much pain. You started this round, but you had no idea i was such a good distance fighter.4 years of training strengthens my resolve and you havent won 1 single round.You are a sometimes likable guy.Im tempted to feel sorry for the spot your in.But the bell has sounded and we are in the ring.Get on with your training and dont blame me for being distracted in the lead up to this event.Im ok for the next round to begin after this event is over. OSU!!!!!! right back at ya

Hey BOA. Interesting question about "bugsy the not so funny bunny" mixamatosis? lead poisoning(22 semi automatic rifle?) Caught in a trap perhaps by a skilled and one eyed, homo, divorced freak? We may never know.Im keeping my fingers crossed that hes allright.I think hes fine but being easter and all....Youre just dying for him to come out swinging aint you Boa?.LOL. Anyway, while youre here, can i ask you something,just for transparency?How many times have you done judging before? I have a show coming up and wonder if you would like to help.

Norm Respect and all bro,with what you have done in the sport but your rambling on and on cuz has made this thread dull as man, Im trying to find out that latest happ's about the show but have to read through your yarns mate.

lets leave the fighters alone norm as you aint in it, and let Andrew focus on the 8 man torney you gonna get him angry and he's gonna take it out on all the new fellas hahaha so just for the new fellas sake, take breath cuz and ease up on the banter..

All the best Powerhouse bring your best back to NZ and prove the critics wrong!

And to all the New fighters in the torney best of luck make your mark boyz and show the fight fan's what you guys can do, and I sure we will be screaming for more.

Go the Powerhouse!!!

Vila:
I hear your words, but they come too late!. I have nothing new i can say to anyone on this subject!!!(i dont think!) so throw up your hat into the air and let out a loud cheer!! If people are curious they will just have to read what all parties have had to say about it and....its not like me to hijack a thread lol...im a hitch hiker! I did wonder lastnight if i was just overdoing the defense aspect but i thought f**k it,so im going to bore some to sleep,but you do know you can just scroll on past it or if you want you can..... I am looking forward to seeing the new guys make their mark allright! Have a happy easter dudes :-)Thanks for the understanding a cranky old bastard!! Yep,im punchy allright, so youre right again Andrew for a record breaking 3rd time!!

hahaha Shot Norm your a good man, I read your post cause when they are constructive they are auctually worth reading and because of your experinece I choose to listen in, anyway bro have a good easter, take it easy on the internet battles I know you have retired from fighting, but still the fire burns aye! judging by some of your post! hahaha

Take care bro!

maybe bugs could be mike angove?
dont see him posting anymore?
oh well just food for thought!
anyways whos everyone picking?

mine is
leamy beats noosa on points
andrew beats charlie on points close fight

peter beats felise
de jong beats reti

semis
leamy beats peck
peter beats de jong

final
leamy beats sampson

Yeah fuck, nice one Rexy. I want Leamy to take this out 8 man too! I hope he knows the locals down here r gonna be rooting for his arse man.

I remember Dixon taking a lot of shit last year for drafting Leamy & Felise & co into the Oceania pool. I think they were referred to as a "bunch of nobody's" But they shut people up real quick.

Im actually spewing McKinnon has pulled out. Even tho he is an Aussie, i love watching him fight. Damit.

I think you are spot on rexy! I only differ from you about the final outcome.But i aint no expert so the fight will decide and that will be a beauty!! I hope we are going to have the finest judges to compliment The Rebel on this high level event! Cant wait to see the sparks fly!!

Leamy / Noosa (Leamy via punch KO) too much power bias though as I haven't seen Noosa Fight.

Peck / Charlie (peck via kick KO) Powerhouse looks in good shape and serious this year

Peter / felise (Peter on points) don't know if you can KO Felise haha but no doubt this fella will be looking for a KO himself, and Peter he's total package!

De-jong / Reti (De-jong win's via scaring the shit out of Reti) haha sorry Reti cuz haven't seen you fight just playing brotha take it to the big fella!
(De-jong via TKO)

Semi Finals

Leamy / Peak (Peck via TKO)Leamy's defintely got the goods for a upset just a question of how much pain can him legs take when tree trunks are getting smashed against them for 3 rounds!just don't let him land one Andrew he only needs one shot! haha Good luck with your boy Rex!

De-jong / Peter ( Peter via Points)Pete will be to slick for the Giant, legs kicks might be too much to handle esp with peter accuracy.

Final

Peak / Peter ( Peck via head kick KO) don't know about this one as Samson probably will take it if it goes to points but I want to see KO's so Im calling

Powerhouse to Win All!

Samson on points over Leamy in final.

Wow... way to kill a thread Powerhouse and Norm...

ONE WEEK TO GO till this one... it'll go off. I can't wait...

So let's get back on track and count it down!

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"The Voice" Michael Schiavello

I have a honest question,what is Leamys weight and height?

Hi Andrew

5 Ft 11 inches
105KG Last time he fought in Wellies as well as the K1 when he KO'd Mr. Steve McKinnon- from the info available. Thats the height and weight part.

Rex could best answer the weight at the moment. Pretty solid build and one hell of a jaw.

Hope your preps going good Mr Powehouse.

BOA @ ROGUEMAG.COM
Fight Editor

Leamy / Nosa to cause an upset and win on points,Erik has fought Jay Hepi Twice lost both close decisions,Also fought ben edwards to a draw and lost to Pettas,Erik has heavy hands too and will surprise a lot of fighters

Peck / Charlie. Andrew to win,with those thunder kicks to the legs and stoppage in the 2nd

Peter / felise. Peter to win on points with the same technique as andrew but with a lot more hands thrown in.

De-jong / Reti.De Jong by points

Semi Finals

Nosa / Peck.Andrew with the leg kicks and stoppage in the 2nd

De-jong / Peter. Peter with leg kicks points win

Final

Peak / Peter .Will be close and if Peter is training at Balmoral i will pick him for 3rd round points win

This is a horse race! The gyms are the jockeys. this is a marathon event.9rounds of pain and glory.Maybe as many as 15 rounds!(with extension rounds if they still use k1 styled rules)Who prepared the best for this event.The gyms with the experience in these events are the ones to keep an eye on. Mental preparation is as important an aspect as diet or conditioning.The new guys have a great chance of upsetting the big guns.The big guns have tremendous pressure on them to keep their reputations in tact.Some spend time thinking of who they might thank when the microfone gets handed to them. Others may be looking at why they might lose,the flu they just cant shake maybe?.But we respect them for trying anyway! Hell yes!and understand their plight,dont we dudes! Others are on short notice and will give it a shot for the right price, and after all they are only here because no one else was available,so win lose or draw if they had of been given more time....half the card fits into this construct.Who is going to win? The one who knows the way to the title of course.

yeah spot on boa thats leamys weight, but when he koed mackinnon he was 98kg now we made a few changes and he is about 105kg.
dont under estimate charlie guys he did break terry tuterus jaw and took his title off him.if charlie has trained hard then he is a danger to anyone.
The best thing about 8 mans as anything can happen on the night!

leamy sampson final, sampson wins!

Hey Rex

Thats a good weight for Leamy, becuase he looks very relaxed at a more solid 105ish KG, know what i mean. Everyones got a chance mate, and so does Leamy- a very good one. Arguably hardest puncher in the 8 man. However Andrew is favourite only because of the ring time of late in being very active he looks like the incredible hulk sans the green tan: amazing shape. Furthermore he is the most experienced out of the lot. Peter in my book is a close second with the impact he made last year with 3 prized scapls. However its a new year and an entirely different show altogeather. Log on to roguemag.com next tuesday for the KO preview. Very interesting!!!

BOA @ ROGUEMAG.COM
Fight Editor

Thats true about charlie smiler, Rex.Hes Tall, and has great leverage in his punches when hes on fire. His only hope in his first fight of the night,is to Block or evade the kicks that come in ones and send a timed righthand- left hook and finish it with a kick for maximum effect.A good teep wont go astray when an attack is planned by the other guy.He will have to make up his mind to start the arguement right from the opening Bell, and if he waits to get warmed up by Andrew then his night will be over,end of story.I fought my heart out only when the odds were overwhelmingly stacked against me,to the point i made up my mind that i was prepared to die,rather than back down and by taking this approach i changed my own veiw of the world, and nothing else mattered.i was then in the zone.Its a pity i wasnt anygood!see what i mean about sub conscious thoughts that need to be weeded out before they surface mid bout,when the pressure is extreme. Thats the worst time for pre installed,sub-conscious thoughts to be appearing.Im probably wrong so no harm done.

Lemy is 178cm? wow thats same as Mark Hunt I will have to be careful cause I got knocked down a couple of times in that one.

I think mark was tubbier back then though eh Andrew?. What did he get you with? It wasnt that damn rolling thunder at all was it! How long ago was that fight with Mark Hunt? Gee! are you trying to scare off the other fighters or something Andrew! naming names like that you sly old dog you! lol.

The problem when leamy was fighting his last few k1 fights is that he no experience at that level and was just really fit and strong. Now he has had 6 months in the gym learning new things and really just learning to fight pros not amatuers. He has come a long way and i think he is well suited to an 8 man as he always gets better in the latter rounds. I have never seen anyone who hits as hard and who is as fit as he is. He is a freak with unreal training discipline which I hope will take him a long way weather it be mma or kickboxing.

Hey Rexy does Leamy do mma as well! this aspect,no matter what the style,allways helps with the ring time experience. Also whats his age? Im afraid to say i missed his last fight on tv, and dont recall seeing him, though a number of people have asked me about him.If hes the goods rexy,youve been around and i respect your opinion, and this i cant wait to see unfold on national TV!!!. Its the guys with passion and pure determination that i enjoy watching, and any badge of experience goes flying out the window when guys like this, who are supposed to be mere novices in comparison(lol), start behaving like professionals!!. Jay Hepi is a perfect example of this,and very experienced professionals have bitten the dust whilst thinking it should be an easy assignment.

Hey boys, what's the venue and date of this show? I've sorta lost track of those details, and can't be stuffed reading each post again :)

Hey Rex

In case of a Knock Down, off to the neutral corner!!!
Remember against McKinnon, probably cost Leamy the fastest KO on the show. Yeah he can hit hard alright and much more chissled than Mr Hunt. He can take those as well, granite chin.

Whats the kicking game like these days?

BOA @ ROGUEMAG.COM
Fight Editor

all will be shown on sky spOrts next saturday night boys!
leamy aint fought mma yet norm but will be very soon. His strength will be suited to the ground work involved. (HE BENCH PRESSES 200KG)
Noosa will be a hard fight for leamy but if he makes it past him he will surprise as few people.
Rexy

Are you 200kg now rexy!?!?!lol I have been going over some recent K1 NZ events and familiarising myself with the habits and key points for and against some of the key fighters.Strong kicks and a few punches from the top two ranked guys.The key to success must be in just how you deal with strong kickers who show poor cover defense in the midst of their kicking technique.Do you teep, and punch like hell, knowing their balance is off and their guard is down?.I would like to know how anyone else sees this aspect.There must well be ten better ways, so fire away.How would you go about it? Anybody got some ideas on this?

Mark was 118kg (very trim) when I fought him and Teep sounds like a good idea if your fighting guys with strong punches don't you think? Also I have to tell you something funny because no one has fought more Maori & Polynesian than me the Japanese press call me a polynesian specialist haha funny huh?
And Norm I have done about 40 8 mans pro and amatuer maybe I specialize in those too? Also Mark got me with overhand right first then secound knockdown was hook and upper I think but I my boxing has improved since then its been six years infact I remember give you a boxing lesson one night didnt I?
Norm do you think that perhaps their tatics will be to come at me with overhand rights and hooks?? LOL

Mark was 118kg (very trim) when I fought him and Teep sounds like a good idea if your fighting guys with strong punches don't you think? Also I have to tell you something funny because no one has fought more Maori & Polynesian than me the Japanese press call me a polynesian specialist haha funny huh?
And Norm I have done about 40 8 mans pro and amatuer maybe I specialize in those too? Also Mark got me with overhand right first then secound knockdown was hook and upper I think but I my boxing has improved since then its been six years infact I remember give you a boxing lesson one night didnt I?
Norm do you think that perhaps their tatics will be to come at me with overhand rights and hooks?? LOL

Mark was 118kg (very trim) when I fought him and Teep sounds like a good idea if your fighting guys with strong punches don't you think? Also I have to tell you something funny because no one has fought more Maori & Polynesian than me the Japanese press call me a polynesian specialist haha funny huh?
And Norm I have done about 40 8 mans pro and amatuer maybe I specialize in those too? Also Mark got me with overhand right first then secound knockdown was hook and upper I think but I my boxing has improved since then its been six years infact I remember give you a boxing lesson one night didnt I?
Norm do you think that perhaps their tatics will be to come at me with overhand rights and hooks?? LOL

I think you showed me how they did it before Queensbury rules came out lol and i appreciated it. You were a nice guy back then, and didnt open up a can of whoop ass,so i let you show me all you knew,and after 30 seconds the lesson was nearly over, so we had a break so you could recover.It took a lot outa ya, but i hung in there with you buddy. Just reminiscing Andrew.AND obviously kidding on all counts!. Seems so long ago, but it was only 1998/99!. You were a knowledgable dude back then, and i learnt some stuff from you. Look Andrew, its not that im trying to tell you how to fight,but...I think yes,they will come at you. Hooks and rights covers both hands i think, so only a jab and uppercut is left,(if you dont count a bolo punch as a technically legitimate technique,but rather an "island" style of knocking people out.so crude dont you think!)(i refuse to accept the term "right hook" is anything more than a lazy attempt to legitamise a crooked right,that should have been straight in the first place, but wasnt!) and in no particular order.(and Ali never used a body attack when he learnt where the head was) Some may even attempt to kick!! so be aware of that that eh,and for god sake dont let the lack of mention about knees get you thinking they have forgot to install this program into their hard drive!.All jokes aside Andrew i wish you well and its good we are buddys again.You are truely a legend, and i salute you in my own, very special way.

Yes I dont think they have forgotten my knees. I do love dealing that way with the get in close and start swiming with their punches eg bolo punch etc types haha.

Then you are ready grasshopper! go hard and give it your very very best. I know you have no other way.Just dont miss the plane cos its my birthday on the12th and i expect duty free ok buddy!:-)

P.S. sometimes your posts appeal to my sense of humor,and you leave yourself so open , but im going to just let it slide this time ok.You really should be training, so i will let you go to the local pub and scout out a sponsor.Hopefully its more than the 500 bucks you advertised on your back last year ok buddy.(i just couldnt resist!)lol or as they say in japan ha ha ah ha.

You're right there Rex, don't underestimate Charlie, he has K.O power in all of his weapons, if he is on form he will be a big threat to all.

All the very best to Charlie and Leamy.

Kia Kaha Wellington.

so what is the full line up for the event?

So the new 8Man card is?
The fight venue is?
& gEE mr stomin Normin give Mr A Peck a brake.
The Man has the biggest weekend in a long time coming up.
History is just that aye.Yes we all know you were a good boxer
in yr time. But that was awhile ago now Mr Graham all the best fella.

Hey Andrew - just flicked you an email though just now matey - trying to touch base with you fairly quickly, can you check your emails and buzz me back at caitalin@theimagegirl.co.nz, ta much - C

Hi Everyone, Just wanted to wish Dixon the best with his new show. I have found him to be a very polite and respectable person to deal with and look forward to dealing with him in the future. To everyone else I'm interested to returning to the fight scene and am looking for fights (superheavy weight). I am now fighting out of Mark Hunts gym and my trainer is Sarn Doi. I have been with him for 2 and a half months and am fit and ready to fight now. Just so there is no mystery, my name is Kevin Blanch and I'm currently weighing in at 107kg. Any expressions of interest please e-mail kevinblanch@yahoo.com. Hey and don't write Felise off just yet as a Super heavyweight it only takes one hit to change the outcome of a fight.
With Respect
The Cougar

It's a shame Steve Mac pulled out, it would have made the 8 man alot more interesting. Hey Dixon please keep me in mind for your Sydney show.
With Respect
The Cougar

Will do Kevin, nice to see you back

Who's Pola Mataele training with Now?
Seen on another site that both him & Dougy are fighting in the 8man Bucharest Romania Event On May 4th to Qualify for K-1 GP Amsterdam Event.

Paula is living and training in Amsterdam. I believe he is with Andre Manaart

Hey Folks

ROGUE test site is up and running, and the homepage feature is the KO 8-Man event pre-view. Have a browse and look see. Thanks for the support.

Oh yeah Scotty, Doug is lined up for the Romanian show- should have a full run down interview shortly. Some interesting thoughts to part.

BOA @ ROGUEMAG.COM
Fight Editor

Also...

ROGUE is running a poll on who readers think will take the KO 8-man. Please feel free to stop by and cast your vote. Lets see who the fans think is most likely to win the show.... exciting!!!

BOA @ ROGUEMAG.COM
Fight Editor

Norm is da man hahahahahhaha we drink losta beeeerrrrr i didnt no u in H-town bae? y did u stop there shuda jus cum 2 Tokoroa lol. had 2 get away from all da P heads up there bo?????

i like pies.and pies like me

Any Updates?
Only 3 days to go.

Hello Everybody

The online poll suggests that so far: front runners to win are Andrew Peck and Peter Sampson. They are neck and neck! So please do feel free to cast your votes people. Its free and online.

goto www.roguemag.com to vote - wonder who norm voted for?

Everyone seems to be in good nick- press conference on friday and i should have a run down on it friday night with some pics, and same goes for the show: will have a run down and pics saturday night.

Scotty- hope to see you soon mate.

BOA @ ROGUEMAG.COM
Fight Editor

wheres it being held again?

The voice will be missed this weekend in my opinion he has been given a chioce, do Kings of Oceania or K-1 WGP events. If I were you Mike I would take the WGP events as well, all the best to you. Whats next for us to have to face in order to jeopardise this show.

What's next Dixon? .....watch what the fighters eat before their fights (remember the rugby world cup final in Sth Africa?) :)

Well there's always Mike Angove to reprise the commentating role.

Bubba - ASB SHOWGROUNDS i believe, hope people go to the right venue, and not to the ASB STADIUM, where they'll end up watching the pro wrestling instead!

Press Confrence Tonight (Friday) at 4pm
Stanford Plaza Hotel
22 Albert Street
Auckland City.

Show Tomorrow Night (Saturday)
ASB Showgrounds.
Old Logan Campbell Centre.
Same place as the First ever K-1 Event in Nz.
The One Andrew Peck Demolished everyone with Devistating Head Kicks.
Can Andrew repeat that performance???
Logan Campbell Centre, a Trip down Memory Lane For Andrew "The Powerhouse" Peck.
See you all there Tomorrow.

I been asked about ticket prices for Kings of Oceania. I must have missed the info' what are the door prices tomorrow night please?

Hey Scotty and everyone

Yep... fond memories for Andrew and his head kicks alright, slight favourite on the online poll ahead of Peter Sampson on www.roguemag.com

The press conference should be an interesting one and open to public, so perhaps good mates will reunite... Who knows? should have a run down on the press conference on roguemag.com later tonite and also some changes here and there- should have all that plus Doug Viney and his aspirations. All very interesting... How very coincidential!!!

BOA @ ROGUEMAG.COM
Fight Editor

KINGS of Oceania Press Conference 2007 (Stamford Plaza)!

KINGS of Oceania Press Conference 2007 (Stamford Plaza)!

Andrew and Boa (right) of ROGUE Magazine

Hello Everyone

Interesting press conference and some interesting thoughts. Pls check out the full story on
http://www.roguemag.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=25&Itemid=1

or feel free to browse our homepage on roguemag.com

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Fight Editor

I will endeavour to be their. I hope this event is only the begining of bigger and better things to come dixon. Should be a great night.

I've just got the phone with Charlie Smiler, he, his Wife and Kids are still driving up to Auckland as we speak, apparently someone forgot to buy air-fares for him and his cornerman!? (he resides in Wellington, for those that are unaware)

Not only is this the biggest fight of his career, he has to find his own way to the venue in order to compete!

It was only a few months ago I was praising your efforts Dixon, I along with some others have given you the benefit of the doubt over this whole Ray Sefo scandal thing ...but this one is too close to home mate, I have known Charlie for the past 30 years, he is like a brother to me.

This is the most unprofessional thing I have heard of!

Im baaaaack....did yous all miss me.. Im in disguise now

Hey Aaron you might want to ask Charlie why it took him more than a week to reply if he wanted to fly or drive as the choice was given to him 2 weeks ago. It was his late reply that narrowed our options.

bugs where yo bin???.

Hey Bugsy

We did miss you. Hope all is well and where have you been? Was it the easter thing?

BOA @ ROGUEMAG.COM
Fight Editor

I wasn't aware of that Dixon, I was told that he spoke to you, and you told him that you had forgotten to buy the tickets.

I try to keep my posts on these forums positive and constructive, but it is a natural course of action to "speak up" when something affects one's self or someone close to them.

I should and will retract my last statement on the above post, this is not "the most unprofessional thing I have heard of" (but is definately up there)...(I must have got caught up in the moment on that one), I do however believe it is unprofessional to "forget" to sort out and purchase a fighter's Airfare (if this is the case).

If what you say is true Dixon, then I will apologise to you and endevour to remove my foot from my mouth.

P.S Good luck to all who are fighting.

is Iggy fighting or not? The "other" thread that has popped up from (apparently) the UK would suggest not.... any truth in this?

boa and vaderman they booted me off here and I couldnt get back on which is why I changed my name..yeah..And now Im back..first thing I like to say is So Norm you are the stupid silly fish with all your gay talk before.

I seen you once at the K1, the night you made Andrew lose. Andrew was right you did make him lose, but that was his silly fault for playing some game of "hey ref can you say the call properly because you not saying it right before I put my hands up and walk forward" and the tman can hit hard though when he wants to stop being lazy.

Back to the 8 man tonight it should be great to show the Japs that Dixon can bring it all on in the South Pacific. With some of the new boys I think it should be a Sampson and Lemons Tatoo in the final with Lemons to take it out. Reason is because both Sampson and Andrew have soft chinny chins for the Big boy Lemons tatoo to take it out.

Underdog could be Charlie Smiler, but Noosee and Retty will get hammered. Be a easy day for ustinov with samoa unless samoa can bring them big giant club hands to put the giant to sleep, but have you seen his hands too. Be a good showdown with the Tman as hes a very tough fighter, but Ignashov should be able to take him out too, but not easy though.


We will see as anything can happen at the Kings..So Jimmy Lennon would say " Its Showtime"

when is this on regular tv? i cant see it in the tv listings except sky sport 3, which is the only sky sport channel i cant get :(

good luck also to everyone fighting!

but then again if lemons tatoo cant beat charlie smiler convincingly and get all cut up with his shin, Its the return of the Pecker who will make it twice I think. And with his good form in Japan ( they only little, the japanese) he beat an undefeated fighter.. So the Pecker will return as the new king and then you one eye no it all, Norm whats your name will eat your words as Pecker stands glorious with a new crown.. he should kick your butt too while hes celebrating..

Alex, I'm pretty sure it's only going to be shown on Sky Sport 3. Have a ring a round mate, someone you know should have it.

I've invited myself around to my Mum's to watch it, they have no say in the matter as I built their house hehe.

I dunno Aaron they could always just grab you by the shoulder and put you outside hahaha. Should be a good night of fights.

You know something mugsy? Its not exactly a star studded lineup. Its like the All Blacks that were nicknamed "the Baby Blacks" when all the big name heavyweights were suspended for touring South Africa against the NZ rugby unions strict ban. Those "Baby Blacks" played their heart out and beat the French against all "popular" opinion and saved the day for NZ rugby.This show may well be similar.

Ive had my time at being angry. I made some enemies in the process. I made some comments that perhaps i should have kept to myself.What would you have done? Just let some one punch you in the mouth in front of your whole family and freinds and not react? He used words of hatred and i used words of offense, but you use the words of a coward.Whats is your name punk? You have used insults against so many other people over the years on this forum, that you havent the guts to say have you.

Dont blame me if Peck wins, and dont blame me if he loses. Seven other fighters are looking to be the blame for all the other fighters losing, including him.One thing is certain. The best and/or luckiest fighter allways wins in an eight man. I wish ALL eight man fighters a safe and great night in the office.

Cmon chopper!!!,put some weight on and move into the superheavys,how long before chopper moves up in weight,middlew8,lightheavyw8,cruiserw8,heavyw8 then super.He is the king of 8 man tournys.

Yeah if choppa was fighting at that w8 he`d be mah man fo sho.didnt mean ta Jack the thread.

Go Sampson!!!!!

yeah Pecker will win this thing tonight. All the emotions of him winning in 2000 will be strong, I just feel sorry for the ones he knocks out by KKO, just like the 2000 K1.

And as for you Norm, we are all glad you not reffing anymore, but you were good sometimes but when you went to boxing and come back to kickboxing, you had the same way to ref like in boxing, but this is kickboxing, so we dont need you.

And that teaches you a lesson for going under a no it all name like one eye, talk and say rubbish about people, then try to say sorry when you expose yourself you wally. I guess, just sort it out yourself, Im sure youll figure it out somehow.

And not blaming you if pecker wins because he will as like I said, if Lemons tatoo cant beat charlie smiling convincingly, then peckers will win.

Now going to go get ready to watch the big show, might even see you there and I come and say hello to you if I can remember what you look like.

Your not wrong bout the chop machine darkvader.Just let him have a good breakfast, and tell sifu to stop hiding the biscuits and he could own this weight zone as well! NZs version of koaklai(except easier to spell!)

Hey Norm

Where have you been mate? we all kind of missed you, especially Andrew.
Hope all is well. Good point about Choppa, and yeah much easier to spell.
Hope you had a nice easter.

Check out ROGUEMAG.COM homepage later on, will have the full run down on the show and the action, the sideline action and any other avtion which exists, worth covering.

BOA @ ROGUEMAG.COM
Fight Editor

I apologised to one person mugsy, a guy without a pee in his name. Other than that i stand by my words.Has the matchups changed again? i thought peck was fighting charlie first up? if charlie gets as far as to fight leamy then that means he would have beaten peck to get that fight with leamy,so how can peck win the final? .the puncher vs kicker scenario is forgetting that these guys can all punch and kick,its just that some prefer to kick or punch ,not that they lack in this element at all.I would have to back the dominant kicker who has a good guard and maintains his distance.

LOL Geoff, enough of the shoulder jokes eh, you'll hurt my feelings dammit ha ha.
Nah, I did ask (politely) to come around, mate if I insisted, my Mum would K.M.T.F.O.

So is iggy fighting tonight or not... cant be that bloody hard to answer the question. kinda bites that the only way people find out about Iggy not fighting (if that other thread is to be believed) is through a rampant expose yet still to be proven factual or otherwise. Why cant anyone on this thread give a finalised matchup, and tell wether Iggy is, or isnt fighting?

Normy, wont be able to make the pub tomorrow either, got a date with some 4x4's and mud in the kaimais.

BOA i have been chilling out inda hood and i did notice your spellcheck wasnt working when i read your articles on the rogue site.Other than that it was ok.Your juxtaposition re peck causing a storm was not worthy of mentioning.lol.I live in H town dude.I got better things to do than drive to Auckland and harrass people.I can do that with one finger from here buddy lol.Anybody wants a face to face with me can sacrifice the glitz and glamour of the star seeking paaparazi,s and make their way down to my village.(set your watch back 4 years)lol.

Iggy,s not fighting apparently, he hurt his thumb.
4x4s and mud in the kaimais? how dare you talk about mugsys wife porky pig like that! Why I oughta...lol

porky pig my wife...yeah rite norm..because while you were too busy on here, I just got off yours..

lol. i see you met your wifes identical twin then. Shes my ex- you can have them both lol

Hey Norm

Where have you been mate? we all kind of missed you, especially Andrew.
Hope all is well. Good point about Choppa, and yeah much easier to spell.
Hope you had a nice easter.

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any results yet? anyone anyone??

Pool A

Eric Noosa vs Leamy Tato
Winner = Eric Noosa via Unanimous Points

Charlie Smiler vs Andrew Peck
Winner = Andrew Peck via T.K.O, Charlie was unable to come out in the 2nd Round due to too much damage to his leg/shin


Pool B

Felise Leniu vs Peter Sampson
Winner = Felise Leniu via 2 Knockdown Rule 1st Round

Jason Retti vs Reuben De Jong
Winner = Jason Retti via Unanimous points


SEMI FINAL 1

Andrew Peck vs Leamy Tato (Eric couldn't fight due to suspected fractured foot)
Winner = Andrew Peck via ref stoppage in Round 2


SEMI FINAL 2

Felise Leniu vs Jason Retti
Winner = Felise Leniu via K.O. 2:50 in Round 2


SUPERFIGHT

Alexander Ustinov vs Matt Samoa
Winner = Alexander via Ref Stoppage 1:45 Round 1


8-MAN FINAL

Felise Leniu vs Andrew Peck
Winner = Andrew Peck via T.K.O Round 2 ,Felise sustained too much damage to his left thigh.

Hello everybody

Check out the full run down and photo gallery tomorrow on ROGUE. Great show and some great fights.

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Fight Editor

Hello again

Its pretty late but the report is up plus Doug Vineys Interview, hang tight till sunday evening for the photo gallery. Some stunning work coming up.

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Fight Editor

I have one thing to say about the new fighters.They all have great spirit and thats the only thing that saved this show from being lacklustre. JASON RETTI with only two fights in total under his belt slayed his dragon! I read he threw in his job and trains fulltime in the hope of living his dream.Well it payed off last night!Only 2 fights and yet looks like hes had 20!!. LEAMY TATO is another fighter worth keeping an eye on. He moves around like a middleweight and can be proud of himself for a huge effort and under great pressure he didnt buckle one damn bit.
PETER SAMPSON...the surprise upset of the night.Felled by a keen FELISE LENIU! The young gun charged like a bull and destroyed any plans Peter may have had in the back of his mind.Some handle pressure,while others buckle.The difference between Peter and Felise is that Felise had nothing to lose and Peter had a heap of attention on him. ANDREW PECK...I refuse to fall into a trap,and launch into a tirade.He fought smart.Hes experienced at eight mans and single one off fights alike.Not exactly any great surprise when you take a quick look at the stats.He wanted the Eight Man title and he knew his way to it, and he has it again. Maybe 03 will become a distant memory for you now Andrew.I for one am happy to have that night finally end.

Well MATT SAMOA v ALEXANDER USTINOV... Oh boy..what was Matts manager thinking.Not what the rest of us were thinking,obviuosly.And i bet I know EXACTLY what MR. T was thinking eh MR.T!! Matt,s as brave as they come, but it would be nice if he perhaps took some time out and used that time to heal and strengthen his confidence that has taken a pounding over the last year or so.
CHARLIE SMILER and ERIC NOSA,in and out of the ring they were the two unluckiest guys in the tournament.Id be tempted to comment on the drive Charlie made to get to the show but Aaron has that one covered.

the show last night was boring and pathetic..see my write up on the results thread.. and you mr norm get off my dog Im taking it for a walk and put some clothes on. Oh yeah never saw you at the fights last night to congratulate mr pecker, you washed up, no good computer poop. We all think thats what you good at now, putting people down like the pecker. Well look where he is now, and look where you are.. so they say you loser, has been.

I take that back mr norm, I apologise for the has been, loser bit I just wrote as you are a very strong fighter with lots of bravery and courage as you fighting names like sean sullivan and going the distance, and us in mangere would definately learn heaps from you and am sure you have plenty of knowledge to pass on. So I take that back. But the other bits I wrote Im still full steam ahead with it. I just wish you come to your senses and be good on here. but I guess thats who you are. so I apologise.

i smell fear!!!lock your doors bugsy, i heard the wabbit hunt has begun.

No worries bugsy.I do get upset at some things that are said,and i havent been to a K1 show since i last worked on one in 04.I was asked to be a judge by K1,but i chose not to.I have grown tremendously since those days and enjoy reffing even more than ever.I have made BIG mistakes and said stuff that was in anger.I retired from fighting.I will take the lessons i have learnt and train a few boys and then i will enjoy travelling the world watching them beat up people for money!!My retirement plan!!! I would love to come visit you at mangere but they beat up skinny white guys there dont they? lol. I was neither a good or brave fighter so Mangere isnt on my radar!

I aint goin to mangere bubba! Im punchy,not stupid.(What exit do i take when coming from H town?)lol

RESPECT to you mr norm..And mr bubu do you like scary movies, because I do, and evwy hunting season is a scary movie..Lol

They should kick you off here again bunny.

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I knew Felise would put in a great performance. Well done Dixon on putting on another great show.
Kind regards
The Couger

All and every single fighter showed great fighting spirit and even just jumping in the ring would scare the average ordinary carrot chomping couch trainer.I wrongly assumed all of them except Peck had had only ten fights or less but not so.The first thing a trainer teaches a student is their stance and guard.The first thing a fighter does when under pressure and wanting to stand up and fight is to forget that guard! Leamy would have loved his weekend and learnt firsthand what its like to take part in an eightman. Next time he will be walking on familiar ground.He took a knee and a high kick. Ive seen some "fighters" whose "Guard" made sure they never got hit by simply staying at home!.Pecks high kick is a deceptive one. Looks like it is going somewhere in between a low and mid level and just diverts its flight path and chops the neck/head.Guard against that one mugsy

BUGS.you have really got to stop slagging off at the trainers and their fighters.They spend hours and hours on their fighters preparing them for not only the ring,but how to handle the travelling,the press,the weigh-in,the pre fight hours,and in a single moment you just stab them in the heart.Just Dont do it man.Beleive it or not these guys actually have been involved in the sport at the highest level as both fighters and trainers.When a fighter makes a mistake he generally knows straight after the blow lands and Felise knew he was beat and i dont think he ran because he was scared in the least.Have you ever taken repeated kicks to the area to the side of the knee where the tendons and ligaments are? after 2 hard fights just prior to that? Take a day to think about these things,before you start offending anyone ok.

Hey all I hope you liked the show. Norm I told you so hahaha and Bugsy have I picked you up as a fan? If so welcome aboard! I just want to say thanks to my sponsors Fairtex Pattaya Thailand and Max Muscle/MX Japan also the crew behind me that night and working the corner being ETK's Jason suttie,Roger earp Focus Chris Martin,Kiosud and my Pad man in Nagoya Japan at BodyBox Danny Blake who took a hell of a beating on the pads these past few weeks.
OSU!!!!

When exactly in May is the event in Sydney? Anyone knows?

Yep you told me so.Cant argue with that. I wouldnt want to rain on your parade after you had to avoid the heavy traffic to get to the desired destination.It took a long time for you to post so i take it you just finished celebrating.When you woke up after finally getting to sleep,did you wake up and take a deep breath and smile and say to yourself its 2007? I bet you did. No reason to live in the past when today is soooooo much better for you eh? Well at least i hope an end to our conversations is at hand. Have a good life. Peace.

Yana great photos and its June more than likely end of June with the date to be confirmed. Wellington is locked in for August 24, Already scheduled with Sky

Thanks Dixon!

Dixon, cheers for keeping the show running. Really looking forward to the Wellington edition down here. You will get a huge turnout mate!

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Hey every one I am back in Japan and had time to think about a few things. Firstly Norm after I finished celebrating I did wake up and say 2007 has began and I smiled to myself and thought how good this year is gonna be I belive I will be unstopable in 2007 and 2008. I perhaps have a shot now at W.B.C. world Mauy Thai title and all my fight money for the other 5 fights I have this year just went up a little so yes norm things do look good for me eh! I will try not to lose this year and I know its early but I hope to take NZ kickboxer of the year award for 2007 also.
BadGirl please come on line tell me what you thought of the tournament I really want to hear.
OSU!!

Well thats nice to hear that you have new dreams and fresh goals Andrew. I hope you achieve your goals and you go on to become the very best you can be.Its getting cold, and im running out of newspaper to wrap me up and keep me warm out in this wilderness that i live in nowadays, so i better trapse off to the mission before i get real sick again. Give my best wishes to Ray,Peter,Semmy and all the boys ok.

Ok I will but do they no who you are?

Ok I will but do they know who you are?

I am waititng to hear from BadGirl please reply I want to hear your thoughts.

norm the storm writes:
Give my best wishes to Ray,Peter,Semmy and all the boys ok.

powerhouse writes:
Ok I will but do they know who you are?,

lol

Classic

Dixon,

Any chance you will re-establish the around 70Kg fights you had going a few years ago?

Full credit to the people who steped up for the show, but I think it might be easier to fill a qaulity card in NZ at the lighter weights. Especially if you are not hamstrung with the K1 process and rules you could open the grapple a bit and I think NZ could put on a great card around 70 kilo's ?

Also,really enjoyed the show but maybe no quite as long looking (on TV) at the screen where the fighters came out and smoke etc before the fighters appear would be good.

Good luck with the rest of the series.

Dixon,

Any chance you will re-establish the around 70Kg fights you had going a few years ago?

Full credit to the people who steped up for the show, but I think it might be easier to fill a qaulity card in NZ at the lighter weights. Especially if you are not hamstrung with the K1 process and rules you could open the grapple a bit and I think NZ could put on a great card around 70 kilo's ?

Also,really enjoyed the show but maybe no quite as long looking (on TV) at the screen where the fighters came out and smoke etc before the fighters appear would be good.

Good luck with the rest of the series.

Hey have I missed the re-run of this event on "normal" tv? I know it was mentioned earlier but too hard to find the post. Thanks

I'm pretty sure it was only on Sky Sports 3 Andrew/Leanne, I have it on video though, flick me an email if you want a copy

Can you email me a copy?

I only have it on video sorry Andrew

Andrew - I'm getting a digital copy and will try to get a copy for you ... drop me an email mike@findyourniche.co.nz and I try and sort it